Marvel vs DC ( Movies)

[BigBoss]

marvel to dc: "those movies you announced last week? that was cute..."

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Inhumans? Captain Marvel? Doctor Strange? Black Panther?

Does anyone give a shit about those characters? They're all D level super heroes. Marvel doesn't have the rights to X-men, Spider-man, and how many more movies can you have with Iron Man and the Hulk in it before people get bored.


Meanwhile...


DC is about to drop Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern, Suicide Squad with Lex Luthor, and MOST LIKELY a solo Batman movie with a different actor going into his backstory which means a new Joker.

DC>Marvel and their campy popcorn bullshit

[Nanners]

i hope ben affleck has nipples on his batsuit

[BigBoss]

i hope ben affleck has nipples on his batsuit

Noted.

[rezznor]

i hope ben affleck has nipples on his batsuit
I hope he wears his underwear on the outside of his leggings

[BigBoss]

rezznor probably thought The Dark Knight was too long

[rezznor]

Are you a marvel guy?
i read both but i tend to prefer marvel characters and stories. both companies have their share of classic storylines as well as garbage ones though.

[BigBoss]

i read both but i tend to prefer marvel characters and stories. both companies have their share of classic storylines as well as garbage ones though.

DC > Marvel without Spiderman and X-Men. Wait and see.

[rezznor]

rezznor probably thought The Dark Knight was too long
actually liked dark knight. rises sucked though

[Graviton]

X-Men and Spider-Man are still part of the Marvel universe. Nobody gives a shit about which company is putting out the product, the movie still has a giant MARVEL logo at the beginning of it. :oldlol:

Now for the actual facts, DC isn't going to win this war, not at the box office and not with critical acclaim. Unless you base your opinion on pure delusions not grounded in reality.




Since the superhero craze started here is what DC put out.

The Dark Knight (2008) - 185 million budget, 1 billion box office, 94% on Rottentomatoes.
Watchmen (2009) - 130 million budget, 185 million box office, 65% on RT.
Jonah Hex (2010) - 47 million budget, 11 million box office, 12% on RT.
Green Lantern (2011) - 200 million budget, 220 million box office, 26% on RT.
The Dark Knight Rises (2012) - 230 million budget, 1.1 billion box office, 88% on RT.
Man of Steel (2013) - 225 million budget, 668 million box office, 55% on RT.

And they have Batman v Superman coming in 2016. Nothing in 2015.



Here is Marvel in the same time frame.

Iron Man (2008) -140 million budget, 585 million box office, 93% on RT.
The Incredible Hulk (2008) - 150 million budget, 263 million box office, 67% on RT.
Punisher: War Zone (2008) - 35 million budget, 10 million box office, 26% on RT.
X-Men Origins: Wolverine (2009) - 150 million budget, 373 million box office, 38% on RT.
Iron Man 2 (2010) - 200 million budget, 623 million box office, 73% on RT.
Thor (2011) - 150 million budget, 450 million box office, 77% on RT.
X-Men: First Class (2011) - 150 million budget, 353 million box office, 87% on RT.
Captain America (2011) - 140 million budget, 370 million box office, 79% on RT.
Ghost Rider 2 (2012) - 57 million budget, 132 million box office, 18% on RT.
The Avengers (2012) - 220 million budget, 1.5 billion box office, 92% on RT.
The Amazing Spider Man (2012) -230 million budget, 758 million box office, 73% on RT.
Iron Man 3 (2013) - 200 million budget, 1.2 billion box office, 78% on RT.
The Wolverine (2013) - 120 million budget, 414 million box office, 69% on RT.
Thor 2 (2013) - 170 million budget, 644 million box office, 65% on RT.
Captain America 2 (2014) - 170 million budget, 713 million box office, 89% on RT.
The Amazing Spider Man 2 ( 2014) - 200 million budget, 706 million box office, 53% on RT.
X-Men: Days of Future Past (2014) - 200 million budget, 740 million box office, 92% on RT.
Guardians of the Galaxy (2014) - 170 million budget, 752 million box office, 91% on RT.

There is Avengers 2 in 2015, along with new Fantastic Four and Ant-Man.

[BigBoss]

actually liked dark knight. rises sucked though

Rises was doomed to fail. Creatively, Heath's death changed the trajectory of that trilogy. They were going towards something great, but had to settle for good.

[BigBoss]

X-Men and Spider-Man are still part of the Marvel universe. Nobody gives a shit about which company is putting out the product, the movie still has a giant MARVEL logo at the beginning of it. :oldlol:

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You're an idiot. By Marvel, I mean the shared cinematic universe. I ignored the rest of you're post because you ACTUALLY used Jonah fukin Hex to represent DC. DC has put out 1 movie in it's shared cinematic universe: Man of Steel.

Your entire post is actually a huge fail and not comprehending what we're debating at all. You fundamentally do not know what the Marvel vs DC debate is for that matter LOL

[rezznor]

You're an idiot. By Marvel, I mean the shared cinematic universe. I ignored the rest of you're post because you ACTUALLY used Jonah fukin Hex to represent DC. DC has put out 1 movie in it's shared cinematic universe: Man of Steel.
he was actually pretty fair. he included punisher which was comparable to jonah hex

[ROCSteady]

Don't see TDKR as a failure.

Flawed but still some amazing content within. I luv Bane and Selina on screen

[Graviton]

You're an idiot. By Marvel, I mean the shared cinematic universe. I ignored the rest of you're post because you ACTUALLY used Jonah fukin Hex to represent DC.

Repeat after me: shared cinematic universe. LOL
So you are using arbitrary irrelevant criteria to separate the garbage DC put out while also downplaying the success of Marvel properties like Spider Man/X-Men? Seems legit. :oldlol:

Even the SHARED CINEMATIC UNIVERSE shits on DC. Look at my list again and take out Spider Man, X-Men and other stuff, Marvel still shits on DC, especially if you take out The Dark Knight trilogy since it's not a SHARED CINEMATIC UNIVERSE. Man of Steel was worse in every objective criteria than Cap 2, Guardians and even Iron Man 3 for ****s sake.

But somehow the trend will suddenly stop and people will wanna see ****ing Aquaman, Suicide Squad with Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor, Wonder Woman, and Shazam? Like I said you have no actual facts to back up your bullshit, nothing at all.

[rezznor]

he was actually pretty fair. he included punisher which was comparable to jonah hex


i would do it differently though. it would be all wb/dc movies vs all mcu movies. so keep all the dc movies but take out blades, dd, ff, xmens, spidermans. should probably toss out the first hulk but include the 2nd hulk .

[Stern]

Nolan's trilogy shits on Marvel

[BigBoss]

Don't see TDKR as a failure.

Flawed but still some amazing content within. I luv Bane and Selina on screen

It got too Marvel at the end. Daylight and Batman's in costume, the city is literally going to get destroyed if you don't find the bomb, etc. It traded in drama and performance for cheap thrills and summer blockbuster material i.e. the batwing.

Bane was great though.

Selina Kyle was miscast. Needed a sexier actress and more screen time. Less clothes too.

[BigBoss]

Nolan's trilogy shits on Marvel

Hot steamy shit on their face to create a dirty pirate beard on them Marvel hoes

[Graviton]

SHARED CINEMATIC UNIVERSE list...

DC

Man of Steel (2013) - 225 million budget, 668 million box office, 55% on RT.

Marvel

Iron Man (2008) -140 million budget, 585 million box office, 93% on RT.
The Incredible Hulk (2008) - 150 million budget, 263 million box office, 67% on RT.
Iron Man 2 (2010) - 200 million budget, 623 million box office, 73% on RT.
Thor (2011) - 150 million budget, 450 million box office, 77% on RT.
Captain America (2011) - 140 million budget, 370 million box office, 79% on RT.
The Avengers (2012) - 220 million budget, 1.5 billion box office, 92% on RT.
Iron Man 3 (2013) - 200 million budget, 1.2 billion box office, 78% on RT.
Thor 2 (2013) - 170 million budget, 644 million box office, 65% on RT.
Captain America 2 (2014) - 170 million budget, 713 million box office, 89% on RT.
Guardians of the Galaxy (2014) - 170 million budget, 752 million box office, 91% on RT.


So Man of Steel barely made more than Thor 2, received worse reviews. Got killed by Iron Man 3, Cap 2 and Guardians in both categories but its shared cinematic universe will somehow beat Marvel's already established franchises? I will just keep updating the list and watch your retardation unfold over the years.

[Graviton]

Hot steamy shit on their face to create a dirty pirate beard on them Marvel hoes
But we are talking a different shared cinematic universe...

TDK trilogy has nothing to do with this just like Spider Man and X-Men, remember? Or did you forget your own pointless "rules" you set up. :oldlol:

[BigBoss]

SHARED CINEMATIC UNIVERSE list...

DC

Man of Steel (2013) - 225 million budget, 668 million box office, 55% on RT.

Marvel

Iron Man (2008) -140 million budget, 585 million box office, 93% on RT.
The Incredible Hulk (2008) - 150 million budget, 263 million box office, 67% on RT.
Iron Man 2 (2010) - 200 million budget, 623 million box office, 73% on RT.
Thor (2011) - 150 million budget, 450 million box office, 77% on RT.
Captain America (2011) - 140 million budget, 370 million box office, 79% on RT.
The Avengers (2012) - 220 million budget, 1.5 billion box office, 92% on RT.
Iron Man 3 (2013) - 200 million budget, 1.2 billion box office, 78% on RT.
Thor 2 (2013) - 170 million budget, 644 million box office, 65% on RT.
Captain America 2 (2014) - 170 million budget, 713 million box office, 89% on RT.
Guardians of the Galaxy (2014) - 170 million budget, 752 million box office, 91% on RT.


So Man of Steel barely made more than Thor 2, received worse reviews. Got killed by Iron Man 3, Cap 2 and Guardians in both categories but its shared cinematic universe will somehow beat Marvel's already established franchises? I will just keep updating the list and watch your retardation unfold over the years.

Notice how Cap 2 made more then Cap 1?
Thor 2 more then Thor 1?
Notice how they ALL got a boost after Avengers?


Ok. Take 5 minute and try to process that in your pea size brain then answer my next question.


What did Man of Steel get a boost from?


Jackass.


Those RT scores are skewed because everyone is on the Marvel bandwagon as well. GOTG was not THAT good. Iron Man 2 a 73% with Rotten Tomatoes LMAO.

[Graviton]

Notice how Cap 2 made more then Cap 1?
Thor 2 more then Thor 1?
Notice how they ALL got a boost after Avengers?


Ok. Take 5 minute and try to process that in your pea size brain then answer my next question.


What did Man of Steel get a boost from?


Jackass.

It got a boost from being ****ING SUPERMAN???????? YOU KNOW THE MOST POPULAR SUPERHERO IN HISTORY OF COMICS OUTSIDE BATMAN?

You are still dodging the question though, if these "boosts" are so important how did the unknown ****ing "Guardians of the Galaxy" somehow make more than "Man of Steel" and receive better reviews? Nobody even knew who the **** Peter Quill, Groot or any of those mother****ers were yet they outperformed the ****ing SUPERMAN movie? Perhaps putting out quality product is more important than "boosts" and name recognition alone?

And of course you ignore RT scores and claim everyone is on the "Marvel bandwagon". Do you have your tinfoil hat on as well? RT scores are the closest thing to an objective measure of quality considering they take into account all major site and publication reviews and gather them in one place.

[BigBoss]

But we are talking a different shared cinematic universe...

TDK trilogy has nothing to do with this just like Spider Man and X-Men, remember? Or did you forget your own pointless "rules" you set up. :oldlol:

The Dark Knight Trilogy is BETTER than anything Marvel has put out. Thats a general statement, like saying Michael Jordan is better then Kobe and Lebron, but is not taken into consideration to answer the question in the thread title you jackass. DC vs Marvel = DC shared universe vs Marvel shared universe.

Does your little brain finally understand everything?

[Graviton]

The Dark Knight Trilogy is BETTER then anything Marvel has put out. Thats a general statement, like saying Michael Jordan is better then Kobe and Lebron, but is not taken into consideration to answer the question in the thread title you jackass. DC vs Marvel = DC shared universe vs Marvel shared universe.

Does your little brain finally understand everything?
That's all irrelevant to this very thread, so your own amoeba sized brain needs to grasp that very concept and try to stay on topic perhaps? Just a suggestion.

[BigBoss]

That's all irrelevant to this very thread, so your own amoeba sized brain needs to grasp that very concept and try to stay on topic perhaps? Just a suggestion.

When you prepared a steak dinner, but your guest asks for chicken do you just ignore him?

[Graviton]

When you prepared a steak dinner, but your guest asked for chicken do you just ignore him?
Are you serious? I ****ing tell them eat what I give you or get the **** out, this isn't a restaurant or Burger King, you can't have it your way. I AM THE ****ING HOST I LAY DOWN THE FOOD AND YOU SHUT THE **** UP.

[BigBoss]

Are you serious? I ****ing tell them eat what I give you or get the **** out, this isn't a restaurant or Burger King, you can't have it your way. I AM THE ****ING HOST I LAY DOWN THE FOOD AND YOU SHUT THE **** UP.

You missed the point.

In a nutshell, this is why you're Team Marvel and i'm Team DC.

Goodnight brother

[Graviton]

You missed the point.

In a nutshell, this is why you're Team Marvel and i'm Team DC.

Goodnight folks!
At the end of the day, Team Marvel will win. Christopher Nolan isn't coming to save you all no more.

You saw the numbers, you know the inevitable. Ain't nobody waiting for ****ing Aquaman, Shazam, Flash, Green Lantern and Wonder Woman to save the day. This is just another Lakers 2012 type hype that will just disappoint once again. Marvel is Lebron in motion, winning rings everywhere he goes, you can't stop it. :bowdown:

The fate of this thread is destined for this...

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=274100

[BigBoss]

you guys continue this battle tomorrow

ok

:cheers:

Yous a fugazi :no:

[BigBoss]

At the end of the day, Team Marvel will win. Christopher Nolan isn't coming to save you all no more.

You saw the numbers, you know the inevitable. Ain't nobody waiting for ****ing Aquaman, Shazam, Flash, Green Lantern and Wonder Woman to save the day. This is just another Lakers 2012 type hype that will just disappoint once again. Marvel is Lebron in motion, winning rings everywhere he goes, you can't stop it. :bowdown:

The fate of this thread is destined for this...

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=274100

Batman V Superman and Justice League are written by the Oscar Winning scribe for Argo.

Avengers is written by Joss Whedon. The dude from Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

Zack Snyder's art direction >>>>>>> Marvel's plastic/halloween costumes

Only the beginning :banana:

Patience and you'll see. Pieces are all in place :pimp:

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[Graviton]

Batman V Superman and Justice League are written by the Oscar Winning scribe for Argo.

Avengers is written by Joss Whedon. The dude from Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

Zack Snyder's art direction >>>>>>> Marvel's plastic/toyish designs.

Only the beginning :banana:

Patience and you'll see. Pieces are all in place :pimp:

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Man of Steel was garbage though...so was Sucker Punch. Snyder is basically shittier version of Michael Bay. If you think he is the key to beating Marvel then yea good luck. :biggums:

[SugarHill]

Man of Steel was garbage though...so was Sucker Punch. Snyder is basically shittier version of Michael Bay. If you think he is the key to beating Marvel then yea good luck. :biggums:

Snyder is much better than Bay

Watchmen
Dawn of the Dead
300

better than anything Bay has done in the last 10 years

[Graviton]

Snyder is much much much better than Bay
Not lately, his best movie was Watchmen and since then he has just made loud mindless action flicks just like Bay. Except his don't make as much money.

He still has potential but my expectations are low, maybe Affleck will lead him towards the right direction who knows. I am just glad Goyer isn't writing the script this time, there is some hope at least.

[iamgine]

I always wondered why they didn't make a movie about Joker.

The timing was perfect with Heath Ledger's amazing performance and sudden death. I don't know if a new actor can perform it as good as him but it sure would make money. Just get some big name....maybe Johnny Depp as Joker. People love this guy.

[eriX]

Why are you comparing the movies when the people who are responsible for these films are different and hence the movies themselves aren't a depiction of the characters but the people who made the movies...

[~primetime~]

Watchmen is the best DC movie

Guardians is the best Marvel movie... And best comic movie overall imo, can't wait for part 2.

After that X-Men is best material to work with, most interesting characters. I'm burnt out on Batman/Superman. Batman was a good trilogy, TDK in particular was great, but I'm not excited at all to see Afleck as Batman, yuck.

[bballnoob1192]

Affleck will totally have his imprint all over the DC universe, and if anyone thinks this is a bad thing they are out of their ****ing mind. He is doing amazing shit behind the camera now. He already got his screenwriter to fix BvS, and that's just the beginning. I can guaranteed BvS will feel a lot different than MoS in every way. Also Marvels movies are great but their entire box office success and ratings are all influence heavily by the Avengers. Only Ironman and the Incredible Hulk was not affected by Avengers. What i mean by this is that cap 1 and thor was created with the sole purpose of hyping up for the avengers. Ironman 2 and IH are shittier films than MoS IMO. thor 1&2, Cap1, ironman 3, are all on the level of MoS in terms of quality. IM1, GotG, and Avengers are better than MoS.

So rite now IMHO its IM2, IH<MoS=Thor1&2, Cap1,IM3<GotG<Avengers<IM1.

[SpecialQue]

I want the DC movies to be good and give Marvel some decent competition at the box office, since their only current competition is coming from...other Marvel franchises that they don't own.

It blows my mind how bad DC is with their non-Batman properties when it comes to movies. I mean, they own ALL of them. Marvel has to use leftovers and scraps that studios didn't give a shit about when they were buying the film rights in the 90s. DC has the two most famous heroes in the history of comic books, and the most famous female hero...and they've only been able to do Batman right in recent years. Marvel took a second tier boring character (Iron Man) and turned him into a hero who's popularity rivals Batman. DC has Superman...a character so iconic that the fvcking word SUPERHERO comes directly from him...and made a movie so bad that they needed to cram Batman in the sequel in order for anyone to be interested in it. Meanwhile, Marvel takes a bunch of shitty loser characters that nobody cares about and makes the highest grossing film of the year.

Marvel's playing chess, and DC is struggling with Fisher Price's Laugh & Learn series.

[Smoke117]

rezznor probably thought The Dark Knight was too long

It was too long...and it was boring when the Joker wasn't on screen. The Dark Knight Rises was even worse when it came to be being too long (and boring) Two incredibly overrated films. The first in the trilogy is the only very good one.

[Shade8780]

The Dark Knight >> Any Marvel movie

but

Marvel >> DC for this very reason...

It blows my mind how bad DC is with their non-Batman properties when it comes to movies. I mean, they own ALL of them. Marvel has to use leftovers and scraps that studios didn't give a shit about when they were buying the film rights in the 90s. DC has the two most famous heroes in the history of comic books, and the most famous female hero...and they've only been able to do Batman right in recent years. Marvel took a second tier boring character (Iron Man) and turned him into a hero who's popularity rivals Batman. DC has Superman...a character so iconic that the fvcking word SUPERHERO comes directly from him...and made a movie so bad that they needed to cram Batman in the sequel in order for anyone to be interested in it. Meanwhile, Marvel takes a bunch of shitty loser characters that nobody cares about and makes the highest grossing film of the year.

Marvel's playing chess, and DC is struggling with Fisher Price's Laugh & Learn series.
Hit it right on the head. Also, I don't want to go too off-topic, but how would TDKR have went if Heath Ledger hadn't died? What would've happened? Maybe Batman would've actually been killed in the end instead of overcoming all those villains.

[Rodmantheman]

So it's safe to say that superhero films are saving the movie industry.

[embersyc]

Man of Steel is like the sixth Superman movie, in what way did it need a boost? Not to mention there have been what 3 or 4 Superman TV shows as well not counting animated ones.

Not to mention that when Man of Steel came out, there were rumors of Joseph Gordon Levitt playing Batman in an upcoming Justice League movie, thereby connecting it to Nolan's trilogy.

Superman isn't some total unknown character like Guardians of the Galaxy were.

[Shade8780]

It was too long...and it was boring when the Joker wasn't on screen. The Dark Knight Rises was even worse when it came to be being too long (and boring) Two incredibly overrated films. The first in the trilogy is the only very good one.
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[Godzuki]

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Inhumans? Captain Marvel? Doctor Strange? Black Panther?

Does anyone give a shit about those characters? They're all D level super heroes. Marvel doesn't have the rights to X-men, Spider-man, and how many more movies can you have with Iron Man and the Hulk in it before people get bored.


Meanwhile...


DC is about to drop Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern, Suicide Squad with Lex Luthor, and MOST LIKELY a solo Batman movie with a different actor going into his backstory which means a new Joker.

DC>Marvel and their campy popcorn bullshit


yo check out how lame DC comic powers are tho. Wonder Woman has deflecting bracers where she deflect bullets and magic lasso that makes people tell the truth, how gay is that? Flash just has super speed, lame as fukk :rolleyes: Green Lantern is corny as hell, like Wonder Twin's corny :facepalm and lex luthor doesn't even have any powers, maybe the most overrated bad guy ever created :applause:

Marvel completely shits on DC with possibilities even if they don't have their studs rights anymore :pimp:

and superman is way too fukking powerful with the lamest weakness so its like u got kryptonite or u don't. weak.

[ROCSteady]

Watchmen is the best DC movie

Guardians is the best Marvel movie... And best comic movie overall imo, can't wait for part 2.

After that X-Men is best material to work with, most interesting characters. I'm burnt out on Batman/Superman. Batman was a good trilogy, TDK in particular was great, but I'm not excited at all to see Afleck as Batman, yuck.

I agree with pretty much all this :applause:

Still think TDK is the best but I'm really big on Watchmen, as you've always been but the pacing sometimes hurts Watchmen but def the most rugged comic book film

[BigBoss]

Guardians is the best Marvel movie... And best comic movie overall imo, can't wait for part 2.

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[Micku]

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Inhumans? Captain Marvel? Doctor Strange? Black Panther?

Does anyone give a shit about those characters? They're all D level super heroes. Marvel doesn't have the rights to X-men, Spider-man, and how many more movies can you have with Iron Man and the Hulk in it before people get bored.


Meanwhile...


DC is about to drop Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern, Suicide Squad with Lex Luthor, and MOST LIKELY a solo Batman movie with a different actor going into his backstory which means a new Joker.

DC>Marvel and their campy popcorn bullshit

Hey, hey, those guys are awesome. Can't wait to see the awesomesauce of Black Panther on screen. He's really cool. One of the coolest characters in the Avengers imo.

DC has to prove themselves with their live action movies with their Universe that they are creating. It will be interesting.