One thing BOTH Kobe Bryant and LeBron James should be recognized and praised for...

[RRR3]

http://d1warraxuf7xh1.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/kobe-bryant-lebron-james1.jpg

Being the two players who were best able to live up to the hype of being "the next Michael Jordan"


Love them or hate them, Kobe and LeBron are both two of the very best to ever play this game, and while neither are Jordan, both are amongst the top 5-15 players ever, depending on who you ask. We're talking bout guys who put up 35/5/5, 30/7/6, 31/7/7, 30/7/9..video game stats. Both were very well rounded players as well. Two legends :applause:

[BuffaloBill]

Peak Dwyane Wade

[RRR3]

Peak Dwyane Wade
Peak T-Mac put up 32/7/6/2/1 on 46/39/79. :confusedshrug:

Kobe and LeBron have sustained their excellence.

[Legends66NBA7]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wTcvtN2ej50

[RRR3]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wTcvtN2ej50
:cheers:

Respect between the two has never been an issue

[oarabbus]

A positive thread that involves both Kobe and LeBron :applause:


More positivity :applause:

[Budadiiii]

Durant surpassed them both at age 25.

Durant is the only hope left for our generation to have a player as good as MJ

Durant is the only player left with a chance

[Fudge]

Durant surpassed them both at age 25.

Durant is the only hope left for our generation to have a player as good as MJ

Durant is the only player left with a chance
:cheers:

[dubeta]

Durant surpassed them both at age 25.

Durant is the only hope left for our generation to have a player as good as MJ

Durant is the only player left with a chance

Durants Awards

1 MVP

4 Scoring Titles

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All Star Game MVP

McDonalds All- American MVP

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fattest mom in the NBA?

[Budadiiii]

Durants Awards

1 MVP

4 Scoring Titles

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All Star Game MVP

McDonalds All- American MVP

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fattest mom in the NBA?
2x Horse Champion

[Budadiiii]

Clutch God

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVQIjJbY2m0

[G0ATbe]

Kobe surpassed expectations and surpassed Jordan with ease. LeBald became a homeless mans MJ.

[Budadiiii]

Kobe surpassed expectations and surpassed Jordan with ease. LeBald became a homeless mans MJ.
Homeless mans Oscar Robinson.

[RRR3]

Durant surpassed them both at age 25.

Durant is the only hope left for our generation to have a player as good as MJ

Durant is the only player left with a chance
Durant is unlikely to ever surpass either of them.

[BuffaloBill]

Peak T-Mac put up 32/7/6/2/1 on 46/39/79. :confusedshrug:

Kobe and LeBron have sustained their excellence.



T-Mac isn't even in the same universe as Wade. One season's stats don't mean jack. Look at career averages, look at playoff performances. Finals.

Name Team Year PPG RPG APG FG% PER
Dwyane Wade Mia 2006 34.7 7.8 3.8 46.8 33.8
Tim Duncan SA 2003 24.2 17.0 5.3 49.5 32.0
Michael Jordan Chi 1991 31.2 6.6 11.4 55.8 31.5
Shaquille O'Neal LAL 2002 36.3 12.3 3.8 59.5 31.4
Shaquille O'Neal LAL 2000 38.0 16.7 2.3 61.1 31.1
Michael Jordan Chi 1998 33.5 4.0 2.3 42.7 30.8
Tim Duncan SA 1999 27.4 14.0 2.4 53.7 30.7
Dwyane Wade Mia 2011 26.5 7.0 5.2 54.6 30.2
Michael Jordan Chi 1997 32.3 7.0 6.0 45.6 29.5
Shaquille O'Neal LAL 2001 33.0 15.8 4.8 57.3 29.4

[RRR3]

T-Mac isn't even in the same universe as Wade. One season's stats don't mean jack. Look at career averages, look at playoff performances. Finals.

Name Team Year PPG RPG APG FG% PER
Dwyane Wade Mia 2006 34.7 7.8 3.8 46.8 33.8
Tim Duncan SA 2003 24.2 17.0 5.3 49.5 32.0
Michael Jordan Chi 1991 31.2 6.6 11.4 55.8 31.5
Shaquille O'Neal LAL 2002 36.3 12.3 3.8 59.5 31.4
Shaquille O'Neal LAL 2000 38.0 16.7 2.3 61.1 31.1
Michael Jordan Chi 1998 33.5 4.0 2.3 42.7 30.8
Tim Duncan SA 1999 27.4 14.0 2.4 53.7 30.7
Dwyane Wade Mia 2011 26.5 7.0 5.2 54.6 30.2
Michael Jordan Chi 1997 32.3 7.0 6.0 45.6 29.5
Shaquille O'Neal LAL 2001 33.0 15.8 4.8 57.3 29.4
Peak T-Mac played at a rarely seen level for a perimeter player as well was my point. Obviously Wade>>> career, but Wade still hasn't had the career Kobe had or LeBron has had thus far.

[Budadiiii]

Durant is unlikely to ever surpass either of them.
:roll:

I take current Durant > Prime Kobe any day of the week. We're talking a 50% scorer and a 45% one.....

And Durant put up a better year than LeBron did last year, and I consider it an off year for Durant.

Durant by age 30, will be averaging 30/10/8 on 55%

You're kidding yourself if you don't think Durant will wind up the best out of this bunch

[RRR3]

This thread isn't about Durant anyways, stop derailing it because you're mad I didn't include him in the thread.

[BuffaloBill]

Peak T-Mac played at a rarely seen level for a perimeter player as well was my point. Obviously Wade>>> career, but Wade still hasn't had the career Kobe had or LeBron has had thus far.


Obviously. But he's had better finals performances than either guy. And prime D-Wade got at least one MJ comparison per game. But if you wanna talk about longevity, then Duncan shits on all of those guys.

[Budadiiii]

This thread isn't about Durant anyways, stop derailing it because you're mad I didn't include him in the thread.
You're not important enough to provoke anger out of me.

This thread is about you being a bonafide loser, and your anti-Durant agenda is obvious.

Durant stole the MVP like LeBron stole Christmas last year. You're still not over it

[RRR3]

How on Earth does Duncan shit on Kobe longevity-wise? :biggums:

[KirbyPls]

:roll:

I take current Durant > Prime Kobe any day of the week. We're talking a 50% scorer and a 45% one.....

And Durant put up a better year than LeBron did last year, and I consider it an off year for Durant.

Durant by age 30, will be averaging 30/10/8 on 55%

You're kidding yourself if you don't think Durant will wind up the best out of this bunch

...until the playoffs started. And :biggums: at 30/10/8.

Lebron will finish higher than KD all-time deal with it.

[RRR3]

You're not important enough to provoke anger out of me.

This thread is about you being a bonafide loser, and your anti-Durant agenda is obvious.

Durant stole the MVP like LeBron stole Christmas last year. You're still not over it
Durant earned it. Why I would care about LeBron not winning when he didn't deserve it? As if more MVPS will do much for LeBron at this point.

LeBron and Kobe were both renowned for their defense in the past as well, remember.

[RRR3]

http://i.imgur.com/UZJJNXG.jpg

Kobe Bryant

5-time NBA champion: 2000, 2001, 2002, 2009, 2010
7 NBA Finals appearances: 2000, 2001, 2002, 2004, 2008, 2009, 2010
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2-time NBA Finals MVP: 2009, 2010
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NBA Most Valuable Player: 2008
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2-time scoring champion: 2006, 2007
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16-time NBA All-Star: 1998, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014

15 consecutive selections, 13 consecutive appearances (No All-Star game in 1999 due to a league-wide lockout)
Missed the 2010 and 2014 games due to injury
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4-time NBA All-Star Game MVP: 2002, 2007, 2009, 2011
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15-time All-NBA Team selection:
First team: 2002, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013
Second team: 2000, 2001
Third team: 1999, 2005
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12-time All-Defensive Team selection:
First team: 2000, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011
Second team: 2001, 2002, 2012



http://i.imgur.com/UstFpMt.jpg

LeBron James

2-time NBA champion: 2012, 2013
5 NBA Finals appearances: 2007, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014
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2-time NBA Finals MVP: 2002, 2013
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4-time NBA Most Valuable Player: 2009, 2010, 2012, 2013
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NBA Rookie of the Year: 2004
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Scoring champion: 2008
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10-time NBA All-Star: 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014
.
2-time NBA All-Star Game MVP: 2006, 2008
.
10-time All-NBA Team selection:
First team: 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014
Second team: 2005, 2007
.
6-time All-Defensive Team selection:
First team: 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013
Second team: 2014
.


Haters gonna hate, but both LeBron & Kobe have definitely lived up to all the hype.
:applause:

[Budadiiii]

...until the playoffs started. And :biggums: at 30/10/8.

Lebron will finish higher than KD all-time deal with it.
30/10/8 is pretty much a given.

He's gonna get two more boards, two more assists, and boost his FG%. Those are all givens.

His leadership and intangibles will also get better and by the time he's 30, will be seeing the equivalent of prime Jordan.

Sleep on Durant and ignore him all you want. You can only deny reality so long until you just get labeled as a degenerate retard.

[KirbyPls]

30/10/8 is pretty much a given.

He's gonna get two more boards, two more assists, and boost his FG%. Those are all givens.

His leadership and intangibles will also get better and by the time he's 30, will be seeing the equivalent of prime Jordan.

Sleep on Durant and ignore him all you want. You can only deny reality so long until you just get labeled as a degenerate retard.

Seek help Simon.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

T-Mac isn't even in the same universe as Wade. One season's stats don't mean jack. Look at career averages, look at playoff performances. Finals.

You're out of your mind. Aside from team strength, peak Wade and TMac were definitely on the same tier, if not very close.

[Budadiiii]

Seek help Simon.
I'll seek help when you boost your basketball savvy.

I won't be getting help any time soon in that case. :lol

Dumbass thinks it's not possible for Durant to average 2 more assists or grab a couple more boards while scoring LESS. :oldlol:

The irrational fan-boys crack my shit up.

[KirbyPls]

I'll seek help when you boost your basketball savvy.

I won't be getting help any time soon in that case. :lol

Dumbass thinks it's not possible for Durant to average 2 more assists or grab a couple more boards while scoring LESS. :oldlol:

The irrational fan-boys crack my shit up.

:roll: :lol :roll:

[Fudge]

I'll seek help when you boost your basketball savvy.

I won't be getting help any time soon in that case. :lol

Dumbass thinks it's not possible for Durant to average 2 more assists or grab a couple more boards while scoring LESS. :oldlol:

The irrational fan-boys crack my shit up.
:oldlol:

Rest in piss, Kirbypls. First dubeta, then JT123, now him. Bron stans getting KO'd left and right. :yaohappy:

[KirbyPls]

I'm Green!!! Thanks Simon!

[BuffaloBill]

You're out of your mind. Aside from team strength, peak Wade and TMac were definitely on the same tier, if not very close.



key word "peak"

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

key word "peak"

Right, but isn't "peak" where RRR3 initially drew the comparison? :confusedshrug:

[BuffaloBill]

Right, but isn't "peak" where RRR3 initially drew the comparison? :confusedshrug:



Yeah but the post you quoted was me replying to his post about longevity. I even said "look at career averages" in that post


:confusedshrug:

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Yeah but the post you quoted was me replying to his post about longevity. I even said "look at career averages" in that post


:confusedshrug:
I get that; however, you were also quoted saying peak ("one season") doesn't mean anything. Thing is, you could argue TMac's "peak" was for TWO seasons. Both 2001-02 and 2002-03.

Either way, their peak play was VERY close.

[BuffaloBill]

I get that; however, you were also quoted saying peak ("one season") doesn't mean anything. Thing is, you could argue TMac's "peak" was for TWO seasons. Both 2001-02 and 2002-03.

Either way, their peak play was VERY close.



Lol I only said that because he posted the stats from that one season

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Lol I only said that because he posted the stats from that one season
Peak play is discussed on this site and in many basketball discussions. One season. Two seasons. Three. Whatever the case, to say "it doesn't mean jack" is pretty ignorant. Just a heads up.