dankok8
11-02-2014, 03:44 PM
This thread is H2H battles between Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Bill Walton. Walton came into the league in 1974 and had a relatively short career until the 77-78 season when injuries tore him apart. In those 4 years Bill displayed some of the best fundamental all-around basketball ever seen at the center position and his last 2 prime seasons '76-'77 and '77-'78 are some of the best ever. Many purists that have seen him play live have called him the greatest center of all time at his peak. His intelligence, defensive impact, and teamwork were perhaps on the level of Bill Russell.
John Wooden who was both players' coach at UCLA said that Walton is the greatest center he ever coached right as he was going to the NBA (possibly caught up in the moment?). Kareem took it as a slight and made it a point to completely destroy Walton in the first couple of games they played as pros! Walton is on record saying that Kareem is greatest player he ever played against better than Jordan, Magic, Bird, Barry etc.
'74-'75 Season
1/19/1975
Kareem: 50 points, 15 rebounds, 11 assists, 3 blocks, 1 steal (18/30, 14/16) W
Walton: 7 points, 6 rebounds, 7 assists, 1 steal (2/5, 3/4) L
Kareem got the a 50-point triple-double for the sixth and last time in NBA history as Milwaukee won the game. Total domination! Walton was injured for all the other three Bucks-Blazers games this season.
'75-'76 Season
11/26/1975
Kareem: 48 points, 12 rebounds, 6 assists (19/33, 10/15) L
Walton: 12 points, 15 rebounds, 9 assists (6/11, 0/0) W
11/30/1975
Kareem: 22 points, 12 rebounds, 3 assists (11/18, 0/4) W
Walton: 19 points, 17 rebounds, 5 assists (7/19, 5/8) L
1/4/1976
Kareem: 39 points, 15 rebounds, 5 assists (15/22, 9/10) W
Walton: 11 points, 13 rebounds, 9 assists (5/16, 1/4) L
1/23/1976
Kareem: 26 points, 10 rebounds, 3 assists (11/25, 4/8) L
Walton: 27 points, 22 rebounds, 8 assists (11/23, 5/5) W
1/30/1976
Kareem: 35 points, 13 rebounds, 3 assists (14/24, 7/10) L
Walton: 16 points, 13 rebounds, 7 assists (8/21, 0/0) W
4/7/1976
Kareem: 29 points, 13 rebounds, 6 assists (12/25, 5/7) L
Walton: 26 points, 10 rebounds, 2 assists (12/24, 2/4) W
Cumulative Averages:
Kareem: 33.2 ppg, 12.5 rpg, 4.3 apg on 55.8 %FG/58.3 %TS
Walton: 18.5 ppg, 15.0 rpg, 6.7 apg on 43.0 %FG/45.0 %TS
In one game Walton didn't play Kareem had 41 points, 20 rebounds, 3 assists, and 9 blocks on 63% shooting. Walton's Blazers won the season series 4-2 vs. Kareem's Lakers when both men played.
'76-'77 Season
11/26/1976
Kareem: 32 points, 14 rebounds, 2 assists (13/28, 6/8) W
Walton: 26 points, 21 rebounds, 5 assists (9/16, 8/8) L
12/18/1976
Kareem: 35 points, 16 rebounds, 4 assists, 7 blocks (17/26, 1/3) - 6 points in OT W
Walton: 28 points, 26 rebounds, 3 assists (10/24, 8/12) L
4/9/1977
Kareem: 8 points, 7 rebounds, 1 assist (2/9, 4/4) L - only 23 min, last game of season
Walton: 19 points, 16 rebounds, 7 assists (9/14, 1/1) W
Cumulative Averages:
Kareem: 25.0 ppg, 12.3 rpg, 2.3 apg on 50.8 %FG/53.9 %TS
Walton: 24.3 ppg, 21.0 rpg, 5.0 apg on 51.9 %FG/57.7 %TS
Walton missed 2 potential H2H games due to injury. Kareem's Lakers won the season series 2-1. Cumulative numbers are misleading since Kareem easily outscored Walton in the two games he played full minutes in and LA won both games. Kareem averaged 33.5 ppg, 15.0 rpg, 3.0 apg on 55.6 %FG/56.9 %TS in the two aforementioned games.
'77 Western Conference Finals
Game 1:
Kareem: 30 points , 10 rebounds, 5 assists, 0 blocks (11/19, 8/9) L
Walton: 19 points, 14 rebounds, 6 assists, 3 blocks (8/22, 3/5) W
Game 2:
Kareem: 40 points, 17 rebounds, 1 assist, 3 blocks (17/23, 6/9) L
Walton: 22 points, 15 rebounds, 9 assists, 2 blocks (11/20, 0/0) W
Game 3:
Kareem: 21 points, 20 rebounds, 7 assists, 8 blocks (5/12, 11/13) L
Walton: 14 points, 17 rebounds, 2 assists, 4 blocks (7/13, 0/0) W
Game 4:
Kareem: 30 points, 17 rebounds, 2 assists, 4 blocks (12/20, 6/9) L
Walton: 22 points, 13 rebounds, 6 assists, 0 blocks (10/16, 2/3) W
Cumulative Stats:
Kareem: 30.3 ppg, 16.0 rpg, 3.8 apg, 3.8 bpg on 60.8 %FG/66.0 %TS
Walton: 19.3 ppg, 14.8 rpg, 5.8 apg, 2.3 bpg on 50.7 %FG/51.7 %TS
Lakers' second best player and starting PF Kermit Washington missed the series due to injury and third best player Lucius Allen played through serious pain and dressed in only two games of the series. Walton did a phenomenal job facilitating the Blazers' offense with his passing.
'77-'78 Season
12/23/1977
Kareem: 27 points, 12 rebounds, 2 assists, 3 blocks (9/26, 9/9) L
Walton: 19 points, 14 rebounds, 3 assists (8/21, 3/3) W
Kareem missed much of the initial part of the season and the first potential H2H game due to a broken hand after punching Kent Benson. Walton succumbed to injuries 60 games in and was never the same player again.
Anyways to summarize...
Regular Season H2H Cumulative Stats (11 games)
Kareem: 31.9 ppg, 12.6 rpg, 4.2 apg on 53.0 %FG/57.1 %TS
Walton: 19.1 ppg, 15.7 rpg, 5.9 apg on 44.8 %FG/48.7 %TS
Walton has a 6-5 edge in wins.
Postseason H2H Cumulative Stats (4 games)
Kareem: 30.3 ppg, 16.0 rpg, 3.8 apg, 3.8 bpg on 60.8 %FG/66.0 %TS
Walton: 19.3 ppg, 14.8 rpg, 5.8 apg, 2.3 bpg on 50.7 %FG/51.7 %TS
Walton has a 4-0 edge in playoff wins all of them coming in a 1977 WCF sweep of the Lakers.
John Wooden who was both players' coach at UCLA said that Walton is the greatest center he ever coached right as he was going to the NBA (possibly caught up in the moment?). Kareem took it as a slight and made it a point to completely destroy Walton in the first couple of games they played as pros! Walton is on record saying that Kareem is greatest player he ever played against better than Jordan, Magic, Bird, Barry etc.
'74-'75 Season
1/19/1975
Kareem: 50 points, 15 rebounds, 11 assists, 3 blocks, 1 steal (18/30, 14/16) W
Walton: 7 points, 6 rebounds, 7 assists, 1 steal (2/5, 3/4) L
Kareem got the a 50-point triple-double for the sixth and last time in NBA history as Milwaukee won the game. Total domination! Walton was injured for all the other three Bucks-Blazers games this season.
'75-'76 Season
11/26/1975
Kareem: 48 points, 12 rebounds, 6 assists (19/33, 10/15) L
Walton: 12 points, 15 rebounds, 9 assists (6/11, 0/0) W
11/30/1975
Kareem: 22 points, 12 rebounds, 3 assists (11/18, 0/4) W
Walton: 19 points, 17 rebounds, 5 assists (7/19, 5/8) L
1/4/1976
Kareem: 39 points, 15 rebounds, 5 assists (15/22, 9/10) W
Walton: 11 points, 13 rebounds, 9 assists (5/16, 1/4) L
1/23/1976
Kareem: 26 points, 10 rebounds, 3 assists (11/25, 4/8) L
Walton: 27 points, 22 rebounds, 8 assists (11/23, 5/5) W
1/30/1976
Kareem: 35 points, 13 rebounds, 3 assists (14/24, 7/10) L
Walton: 16 points, 13 rebounds, 7 assists (8/21, 0/0) W
4/7/1976
Kareem: 29 points, 13 rebounds, 6 assists (12/25, 5/7) L
Walton: 26 points, 10 rebounds, 2 assists (12/24, 2/4) W
Cumulative Averages:
Kareem: 33.2 ppg, 12.5 rpg, 4.3 apg on 55.8 %FG/58.3 %TS
Walton: 18.5 ppg, 15.0 rpg, 6.7 apg on 43.0 %FG/45.0 %TS
In one game Walton didn't play Kareem had 41 points, 20 rebounds, 3 assists, and 9 blocks on 63% shooting. Walton's Blazers won the season series 4-2 vs. Kareem's Lakers when both men played.
'76-'77 Season
11/26/1976
Kareem: 32 points, 14 rebounds, 2 assists (13/28, 6/8) W
Walton: 26 points, 21 rebounds, 5 assists (9/16, 8/8) L
12/18/1976
Kareem: 35 points, 16 rebounds, 4 assists, 7 blocks (17/26, 1/3) - 6 points in OT W
Walton: 28 points, 26 rebounds, 3 assists (10/24, 8/12) L
4/9/1977
Kareem: 8 points, 7 rebounds, 1 assist (2/9, 4/4) L - only 23 min, last game of season
Walton: 19 points, 16 rebounds, 7 assists (9/14, 1/1) W
Cumulative Averages:
Kareem: 25.0 ppg, 12.3 rpg, 2.3 apg on 50.8 %FG/53.9 %TS
Walton: 24.3 ppg, 21.0 rpg, 5.0 apg on 51.9 %FG/57.7 %TS
Walton missed 2 potential H2H games due to injury. Kareem's Lakers won the season series 2-1. Cumulative numbers are misleading since Kareem easily outscored Walton in the two games he played full minutes in and LA won both games. Kareem averaged 33.5 ppg, 15.0 rpg, 3.0 apg on 55.6 %FG/56.9 %TS in the two aforementioned games.
'77 Western Conference Finals
Game 1:
Kareem: 30 points , 10 rebounds, 5 assists, 0 blocks (11/19, 8/9) L
Walton: 19 points, 14 rebounds, 6 assists, 3 blocks (8/22, 3/5) W
Game 2:
Kareem: 40 points, 17 rebounds, 1 assist, 3 blocks (17/23, 6/9) L
Walton: 22 points, 15 rebounds, 9 assists, 2 blocks (11/20, 0/0) W
Game 3:
Kareem: 21 points, 20 rebounds, 7 assists, 8 blocks (5/12, 11/13) L
Walton: 14 points, 17 rebounds, 2 assists, 4 blocks (7/13, 0/0) W
Game 4:
Kareem: 30 points, 17 rebounds, 2 assists, 4 blocks (12/20, 6/9) L
Walton: 22 points, 13 rebounds, 6 assists, 0 blocks (10/16, 2/3) W
Cumulative Stats:
Kareem: 30.3 ppg, 16.0 rpg, 3.8 apg, 3.8 bpg on 60.8 %FG/66.0 %TS
Walton: 19.3 ppg, 14.8 rpg, 5.8 apg, 2.3 bpg on 50.7 %FG/51.7 %TS
Lakers' second best player and starting PF Kermit Washington missed the series due to injury and third best player Lucius Allen played through serious pain and dressed in only two games of the series. Walton did a phenomenal job facilitating the Blazers' offense with his passing.
'77-'78 Season
12/23/1977
Kareem: 27 points, 12 rebounds, 2 assists, 3 blocks (9/26, 9/9) L
Walton: 19 points, 14 rebounds, 3 assists (8/21, 3/3) W
Kareem missed much of the initial part of the season and the first potential H2H game due to a broken hand after punching Kent Benson. Walton succumbed to injuries 60 games in and was never the same player again.
Anyways to summarize...
Regular Season H2H Cumulative Stats (11 games)
Kareem: 31.9 ppg, 12.6 rpg, 4.2 apg on 53.0 %FG/57.1 %TS
Walton: 19.1 ppg, 15.7 rpg, 5.9 apg on 44.8 %FG/48.7 %TS
Walton has a 6-5 edge in wins.
Postseason H2H Cumulative Stats (4 games)
Kareem: 30.3 ppg, 16.0 rpg, 3.8 apg, 3.8 bpg on 60.8 %FG/66.0 %TS
Walton: 19.3 ppg, 14.8 rpg, 5.8 apg, 2.3 bpg on 50.7 %FG/51.7 %TS
Walton has a 4-0 edge in playoff wins all of them coming in a 1977 WCF sweep of the Lakers.