View Full Version : getting posterized vs getting stuffed on a dunk attempt
Random_Guy
11-04-2014, 10:58 AM
Which is more embarassing? assuming that medias doesnt exist of course.
Rake2204
11-04-2014, 11:07 AM
Getting posterized. I didn't like when I missed a dunk attempt or had it blocked, but I'd prefer that any day or getting crammed upon.
And yes, both situations are actual noble causes. The attacking dunker deserves props for trying to go hard while the posterized defender deserves credit for putting himself on the line and trying to make a play (as opposed to just allowing a dunk to happen). Still, I'd much rather have my dunk blocked. It seems no one really remembers the latter. Alton Lister is a name we all know for one reason. But on the other side, do we remember who LaPhonso Ellis blocked on that one hand rip?
KobesFinger
11-04-2014, 11:17 AM
Getting posterized. I didn't like when I missed a dunk attempt or had it blocked, but I'd prefer that any day or getting crammed upon.
And yes, both situations are actual noble causes. The attacking dunker deserves props for trying to go hard while the posterized defender deserves credit for putting himself on the line and trying to make a play (as opposed to just allowing a dunk to happen). Still, I'd much rather have my dunk blocked. It seems no one really remembers the latter. Alton Lister is a name we all know for one reason. But on the other side, do we remember who LaPhonso Ellis blocked on that one hand rip?
I'm not old enough to have seen it live but I know exactly what you're talking about. JaVale McGee had an identical play, shit was nasty.
OT, I think I'd rather get dunked on. Its way more rare to have your dunk blocked because of the timing and positioning needed to do it. Even worse if it gets blocked straight up as opposed to from the side or behind. Unless I get tea-bagged or end up out of bounds, I don't see getting jammed on as that embarrassing.
dunksby
11-04-2014, 11:38 AM
Slam dunk is practically a guaranteed basket so getting your slam blocked is much more embarrassing.
Random_Guy
11-04-2014, 11:40 AM
Slam dunk is practically a guaranteed basket so getting your slam blocked is much more embarrassing.
that was why i think made this more fair, simply because of how rare it is to get blocked on a dunk attempt. having someones nuts in your face doesnt sound nice though?
I specifically included the media part because you dont really get posters for blocking the shit out of someone.
Rake2204
11-04-2014, 11:48 AM
that was why i think made this more fair, simply because of how rare it is to get blocked on a dunk attempt. having someones nuts in your face doesnt sound nice though?
I specifically included the media part because you dont really get posters for blocking the shit out of someone.Blocked dunks happen a lot more than we think, they're just not always on the JaVale McGee/LaPhonso Ellis level. And I still maintain, over years of playing, getting dunked on has resonated way, way more than getting a dunk blocked. Getting a dunk blocked tends to at least yield a "Ohhh! He was about to rise up and put it on him!" Whereas getting dunked on usually does not offer much consolation beyond "Welp, at least maybe he tried? Still got demoralized though."
It all depends on a lot of factors though. Just in terms of mass reception, I've most often seen it work out like this:
Dunk block: Dunker gets respect for going hard and attempting to dunk on a face, shot blocker gets respect for making the play
Poster: Dunker gets extraordinary amount of respect for completing something so supposedly disrespectful, defender gets wildly disrespected - aside from small pocket of quiet minority who appreciate the attempt
thefatmiral
11-04-2014, 12:06 PM
everybody remembers the poster dunk . not enough credit given too those willing to try a block attempt.
Mr Exlax
11-04-2014, 03:44 PM
There's an emotional connection when you posterize somebody. No matter how many times you have done it, you can pretty much remember them all. The very first time I posterized somebody, hell I can still remember sounds and smells from the gym. I remember some of the people on the sidelines watching. This was like back in 96.
A blocked dunk is cool and all, but really it's not spectacular. It's a common play in basketball. Unless you're around a bunch of cats that can't make it to rim level. Plus you really don't have time to celebrate after a block because the opponent might get the ball. You gotta keep it moving.
ImKobe
11-04-2014, 03:49 PM
It's called a poster for a reason
you didn't have a poster of a blocked dunk on your wall in the 90s...
Id say getting dunked on easily...
Rake2204
11-04-2014, 03:57 PM
It's called a poster for a reason
you didn't have a poster of a blocked dunk on your wall in the 90s...Point taken. Though, as a youth in the 90's, I actually had a big cutout on my wall of David Robinson blocking a Grant Hill dunk at its apex.
This one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frsB1plMayw
PistonsFan#21
11-04-2014, 04:16 PM
The only thing more embarassing than getting dunked on is getting your ankles broken
dunksby
11-04-2014, 05:22 PM
Point taken. Though, as a youth in the 90's, I actually had a big cutout on my wall of David Robinson blocking a Grant Hill dunk at its apex.
This one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frsB1plMayw
Yep it depends on your mentality and the way you play the game, from a spectator POV a posterization is more pleasing since it results in a bucket. A block doesn't count as a basket so fans don't appreciate it as much, I have to emphasize that blocking a potential poster is much harder than posterizing someone.
Ai2death
11-04-2014, 05:29 PM
Put it this way, every man and their child knows the Pippen dunk on Ewing.
Now if Ewing did block it, it would be another block, it will fade into obscurity much like Noel's block on Harden will in the coming weeks/days.
But he didn't, he got dunked on, and now everyone knows it, has seen it, and it's up there as one of the greatest facial dunks ever.
VC over that French dude is still my fav dunk of all time though.
Rake2204
11-04-2014, 05:56 PM
I have to emphasize that blocking a potential poster is much harder than posterizing someone.I think that largely depends upon the parties involved. Perhaps that is true for absolute high-flyers but for the "need-every-inch-of-elevation-to-dunk" crowd, I am not sure that's so.
Put it this way, every man and their child knows the Pippen dunk on Ewing.
Now if Ewing did block it, it would be another block, it will fade into obscurity much like Noel's block on Harden will in the coming weeks/days.
But he didn't, he got dunked on, and now everyone knows it, has seen it, and it's up there as one of the greatest facial dunks ever.
VC over that French dude is still my fav dunk of all time though.Good point. Speaking of Vince Carter, when discussing his famous poster over Dikembe Mutombo, VC's been on record as saying that Deke had probably blocked his dunks 5 or 6 times before that (which is up for debate, since that was Carter's rookie year). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b25smJXIqrk
Still, I think it's safe to assume Deke got the best of Carter a lot, but we just don't remember them like we do the posters.
Mass Debator
11-04-2014, 06:00 PM
I'm gonna go with the catch block on a dunk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVFSfRVzQ8s
FKAri
11-04-2014, 06:18 PM
In the public view it seems getting posterized is more embarrassing because the public is rooting for the little guy over the towering big men. Also, the public is dumb. In reality it is much harder to stuff a dunk attempt than to posterize somebody.
Bernkastel
11-04-2014, 06:21 PM
It's called a poster for a reason
you didn't have a poster of a blocked dunk on your wall in the 90s...
This right here. When someone blocks a guy's dunk, the blocker gets most of the attention for doing a good play. Whereas a guy dunking on another is getting celebrated for embarrassing the player who was dunked on.
HurricaneKid
11-04-2014, 06:53 PM
Put it this way, every man and their child knows the Pippen dunk on Ewing.
Now if Ewing did block it, it would be another block, it will fade into obscurity much like Noel's block on Harden will in the coming weeks/days.
But he didn't, he got dunked on, and now everyone knows it, has seen it, and it's up there as one of the greatest facial dunks ever.
VC over that French dude is still my fav dunk of all time though.
I'll agree with all this (esp that VC dunk).
But thats exactly the problem. It leads bigs to not defend. Anytime a big defends the dunk they make it a lower % play. It NEEDS to be contested ALL the time.
If I'm coaching and I see a big get out of the way their butt is next to me. I think there is a certain courage to it and it makes no sense that people think its a bad thing a defender was in there to contest it.
Clean blocks at the rim are incredible to me.
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