So are the Rockets legit..

[rezznor]

or was Miami overrated?

5-0, second night of a b2b. all convincing wins.

the defense between this year and last year is like night and day.

Spurs will be a big test.

[Lebronxrings]

Miami Overrated.

[noob cake]

Rockets lotto team, won't make the playoffs.

Miami of course overrated. Keep with the narrative you noob.

[navy]

A little bit of both.

[L.Kizzle]

I'll wait til end of the month to make those judgments.

[Mr. Jabbar]

houston always has these games in regular season, 1st round exit guaranteed

[juju151111]

Give them 15 games. Early season always funny records.

[rezznor]

I'll wait til end of the month to make those judgments.
i'm cautiously optimistic. defense is alot better. the bench hasn't been as big of an issue as we feared (so far). hell, even mchale seems to be coaching better but I give that credit to the new assistant coaches we picked up.


Let's see how we do against some more playoff teams.

[Micku]

Too early to make calls about it. We aren't even 10% into the season. They are playing well so far tho. Lets get back to this conversation in Dec-Feb.

[Warfan]

I think it's still a too early to tell. Houston looked good, though the Heat are the only actual good team they've played so far. I think Miami will probably be a top 4 team in the East, Houston will make the playoffs and probably be a lower seed.

[YouGotServed]

Anyone who understands the game knows Houston is legit.

5-0

Harden is a beast offensive and defensively. Ariza is playing better than Parsons. Jones and Beverley keep getting better. Dwight looks faster.

This team is scary. What are teams averaging against Houston this year? Has any team scored 100 pts yet?

Houston is a different team defensively.

[rezznor]

I think it's still a bit too early to tell. Houston looked good, though the Heat are the only actual good team they've played. I think Miami will probably be a top 4 team in the East, Houston will make the playoffs and probably be a lower seed.


yeah i should have put <official overreaction thread> in the title. I really don't expect an accurate assessment of either team yet.

[Le Shaqtus]

Rockets are legit until the playoffs start

[rezznor]

Anyone who understands the game knows Houston is legit.

5-0

Harden is a beast offensive and defensively. Ariza is playing better than Parsons. Jones and Beverley keep getting better. Dwight looks faster.

This team is scary. What are teams averaging against Houston this year? Has any team scored 100 pts yet?

Houston is a different team defensively.


no team has scored 100 yet

[oh the horror]

Anyone who understands the game knows Houston is legit.

5-0

Harden is a beast offensive and defensively. Ariza is playing better than Parsons. Jones and Beverley keep getting better. Dwight looks faster.

This team is scary. What are teams averaging against Houston this year? Has any team scored 100 pts yet?

Houston is a different team defensively.



Legit for what? An nba championship? Doubtful dude.

[L.Kizzle]

Anyone who understands the game knows Houston is legit.

5-0

Harden is a beast offensive and defensively. Ariza is playing better than Parsons. Jones and Beverley keep getting better. Dwight looks faster.

This team is scary. What are teams averaging against Houston this year? Has any team scored 100 pts yet?

Houston is a different team defensively.
Calm down there buddy. Even if we blow out San An and Warriors our next 2 games, it's still early.

[oh the horror]

I don't think people here comprehend the rigors of an 82 game
Season plus a deep playoff run into the finals and what it takes to win a title. I'm still not sold on James Harden being the guy to take them into a deep deep playoff run like that.

[WeGetRing2012]

They literally played against all lottery teams outside of the Heat

Lakers - 7th pick
Jazz - 5th pick
Celtics -6th pick
76ers - 3rd pick

Calm down...

[oh the horror]

They literally played against all lottery teams outside of the Heat

Lakers - 7th pick
Jazz - 5th pick
Celtics -6th pick
76ers - 3rd pick

Calm down...



This is what I'm saying. People here lack perspective an get excited on early records. Houston is a good scrappy team. Title contenders I don't think so though.

[YouGotServed]

Calm down there buddy. Even if we blow out San An and Warriors our next 2 games, it's still early.

You're right. Seeing as this season is still young, I should go refer back to last season and use the 82 games from last year as sample size. :oldlol:

New season buddy, and Houston is looking legit. They're beasting offensively and defensively thanks to Harden and Ariza.

Yeah the season just started so what? You had people saying Houston wasn't that good when they'd literally played 0 games. Can't have it both ways.

I'll take what I can from this season and go from there. And so far, everything is telling us Houston is legit. Period. Deal with it.

[oh the horror]

You're right. Seeing as this season is still young, I should go refer back to last season and use the 82 games from last year as sample size. :oldlol:

New season buddy, and Houston is looking legit. They're beasting offensively and defensively thanks to Harden and Ariza.

Yeah the season just started so what? You had people saying Houston wasn't that good when they'd literally played 0 games. Can't have it both ways.

I'll take what I can from this season and go from there. And so far, everything is telling us Houston is legit. Period. Deal with it.



So they're legit after beating 4 trash cans and a decent Heat team.



Here bro I got some magic beans for sale.

[YouGotServed]

So they're legit after beating 4 trash cans and a decent Heat team.



Here bro I got some magic beans for sale.

ok

You're just salty. Have a glass of water to wash down all that salt boy.

[MavsSuperFan]

so many teams in the west better than rockets

[L.Kizzle]

You're right. Seeing as this season is still young, I should go refer back to last season and use the 82 games from last year as sample size. :oldlol:

New season buddy, and Houston is looking legit. They're beasting offensively and defensively thanks to Harden and Ariza.

Yeah the season just started so what? You had people saying Houston wasn't that good when they'd literally played 0 games. Can't have it both ways.

I'll take what I can from this season and go from there. And so far, everything is telling us Houston is legit. Period. Deal with it.
Rockets goin 82-0 thanks for getting me to see the light.

[imdaman99]

They are legit :applause: Can't wait till it's Rockets-OKC in the 1st round, should be exciting :rockon:

[Mr Know It All]

They got way too much hate during the off season, predicting them to miss the playoffs was silly. Still, as people have mentioned, they have played bad teams and are getting unsustainable production from Ariza (Sorry Rockets fans, he isn't going to shoot 59% from three all year).

But god damn, this Southwest division:

San Antonio Spurs (defending champs)
Houston Rockets (5-0 with two top 10 players)
Memphis Grizzlies (Undefeated and healthy)
Dallas Mavericks (retooled and looking like the best offense in basketball)
New Orleans (starting well with Davis beasting)

[YouGotServed]

Rockets goin 82-0 thanks for getting me to see the light.

Looking at the stats and what I see on the court, I agree.

[L.Kizzle]

Looking at the stats and what I see on the court, I agree.
It's settled, 82-0 or bust.

[YouGotServed]

It's settled, 82-0 or bust.

Elaborate.

[chazzy]

You're right. Seeing as this season is still young, I should go refer back to last season and use the 82 games from last year as sample size. :oldlol:

New season buddy, and Houston is looking legit. They're beasting offensively and defensively thanks to Harden and Ariza.

Yeah the season just started so what? You had people saying Houston wasn't that good when they'd literally played 0 games. Can't have it both ways.

I'll take what I can from this season and go from there. And so far, everything is telling us Houston is legit. Period. Deal with it.
Agreed, they look twice as good as last year




2nd round exit

[L.Kizzle]

Elaborate.
If we don't win 82 games this seaaon, it's a failure.

[YouGotServed]

If we don't win 82 games this seaaon, it's a failure.

Agree.

[L.Kizzle]

Agree.
We don't wanna ead up like the Texans.

[YouGotServed]

We don't wanna ead up like the Texans.

I don't watch football.

[L.Kizzle]

I don't watch football.
Good, you're not missing much.

[thefatmiral]

ya they are. healthy dwight with a good cast. probably make the playoffs. in the west thats pretty good.

[thefatmiral]

They are legit :applause: Can't wait till it's Rockets-OKC in the 1st round, should be exciting :rockon:
I want this matchup.

[paintingshade]

i don't understand anything anyone is saying in this thread. people are just hating on the rockets cause they don't like our stars. yeah i agree that you don't base the whole season around a few games, but why the hell do we do power rankings weekly or even have discussions at all? yeah we beat teams we're supposed to plus the heat, but we've beat them all by large margins. that means something for right now at the very least. it could change, but who cares. this is a basketball message board, wtf?

look at the espn rankings recently, and compare the language used to describe the heat at #7:


The wins over Washington and Toronto were both at home. The Wiz, furthermore, had neither Bradley Beal nor Nene. But the Chris Bosh-led Heat, as they're now known, are the East's last remaining unbeaten and just did something the LeBron-led Heat did only once by getting off to a 3-0 launch.

now compare that to the rockets at #9


After a favorable early schedule allowed the Rockets to ease into the season, there will be no ducking those nagging what-if thoughts Tuesday night when the second stop of a back-to-back takes them from the friendly confines of Philly to South Beach and a dreaded date with a very dialed-in Chris Bosh.

how the hell are washington, philly, and toronto not easy? all three of those teams blow. but the story at that point was still "damn look at the heat" vs "yeah well rockets aren't that good". it's hilariously contradictory and not a huge deal, but still, amazing.

it's cool now though, we blew miami the f*ck out. bring on the next ones.

[G-train]

I'm not sure if anyone watched the game, but Rockets were up by 4 with 6 minutes left, and hit some three's etc in the last few minutes.
Was a pretty close game in actuality.

[UK2K]

The Rockets have an average margin of victory of 14.2, with no team coming closer than 11 points. In doing so, they

[ABfor3]

The margin of victory explains it all, we not only beat these teams but we havent had anybody score over 100 . Defense is much better with Ariza on the perimeter not to mention improvements from T Jones and the craftiness from Kostas Pap.

[ImKobe]

5-game sample. Playoff teams have winning streaks. They started off 4 - 1 last season. Less depth this year too, so if I was a Rockets fan, that would be a huge concern for me. That's a lot of games the starting 5 has to play at a high level for them to even make the POs.

[YouGotServed]

[QUOTE=UK2K]The Rockets have an average margin of victory of 14.2, with no team coming closer than 11 points. In doing so, they

[StephHamann]

Houston looks great but their bench is weak.

Could be the killer in the playoffs.

[Mr Exlax]

If we go against a team with a good coach in the playoffs we're outta there. Teams put so much time in game planning and everything in the playoffs. Regular season they try to win, but don't go all out. We're a good regular season team.

[finchyyy]

They got way too much hate during the off season, predicting them to miss the playoffs was silly. Still, as people have mentioned, they have played bad teams and are getting unsustainable production from Ariza (Sorry Rockets fans, he isn't going to shoot 59% from three all year).

But god damn, this Southwest division:

San Antonio Spurs (defending champs)
Houston Rockets (5-0 with two top 10 players)
Memphis Grizzlies (Undefeated and healthy)
Dallas Mavericks (retooled and looking like the best offense in basketball)
New Orleans (starting well with Davis beasting)

Strongest division in history?

[ArbitraryWater]

It's not so black and white... It could be neither.

Miami isn't overrated... they're a 3rd-5th seed, but I do think Houston is legit, and by legit I mean they'll be a top 7 seed in the West.... and obviously better than Miami, probably with a lower seed, though.

[Magic 32]

Miami is nothing special.


But nothing special makes you a contender in the east. :roll:

[Genaro]

Miami is good on East parameters. They managed to make the game tough for the Rockets for most part but if they're not forcing TOs they have no chance. They're not a good rebounding team and can't make 120 points.

Rockets are a really good team but the 2nd round is their peak.

[UK2K]

The Rockets have an average margin of victory of 14.2, with no team coming closer than 11 points. In doing so, they

[Myth]

Anyone who understands the game knows Houston is legit.

Harden is a beast offensive and defensively.

:biggums:

[Droid101]

YGS keeps saying Harden is good defensively. Hilarious.

[MiseryCityTexas]

The margin of victory explains it all, we not only beat these teams but we havent had anybody score over 100 . Defense is much better with Ariza on the perimeter not to mention improvements from T Jones and the craftiness from Kostas Pap.


Yeah K Pap is almost like having Carlos Delfino back, only younger.

[UK2K]

Yeah K Pap is almost like having Carlos Delfino back, only younger.
Pap has much better vision

[UK2K]

Houston had four road wins.

That's the biggest takeaway here. Five double digit wins, four of them on the road.

8 of Houston's next 11 are @home.

[oarabbus]

Yeah K Pap is almost like having Carlos Delfino back, only younger.

Pap has much better vision


If he starts blocking a bunch shots and playing rowdy defense you can call him Pap Smear :lol

[WeGetRing2012]

A Basketball schedule isn't as important as a football schedule. It doesn't matter how strong you start or finish. It's about the habits the team builds through the season and match ups going into the playoffs.

[Milbuck]

Houston has 1 real win. Any team claiming to be a contender shouldn't give a shit about going 4-0 against the Lakers, Jazz, Celtics, and ****ing Sixers.

If they go 3-0 against Miami/SA/GS and win them all convincingly, then let's talk. Until then this is just James Harden in regular season mode and the Rockets feasting on weak competition in zero pressure situations...again.

[Heavincent]

I hope they miss the playoffs just because they're simply boring to watch.

[Smook A.]

I hope they miss the playoffs just because they're simply boring to watch.
No one's gonna force you to watch them :lol

Just turn off your TV when they come on.

[IncarceratedBob]

Miami sucks, Houston should have blown them out

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Not better than Golden State, the Clippers, Blazers, Mavs or Spurs.

If you meant legit as in a playoff team - then of course. Depending on the opponent, Houston could win a series.

[Heavincent]

No one's gonna force you to watch them :lol

Just turn off your TV when they come on.

I would just rather see the Suns or Pelicans. That's all.

[UK2K]

Houston has 1 real win. Any team claiming to be a contender shouldn't give a shit about going 4-0 against the Lakers, Jazz, Celtics, and ****ing Sixers.

If they go 3-0 against Miami/SA/GS and win them all convincingly, then let's talk. Until then this is just James Harden in regular season mode and the Rockets feasting on weak competition in zero pressure situations...again.

Would you have shed a tear had Harden grabbed a 10th board? Pretty sure the board predicted Miami to win, some posters even predicting a double digit win.

Couldn't have been more wrong. Must have been a rough night for you.

I bet the Suns thought the same thing before the Jazz dropped 118 on them and beat them by 27.

[Mr Exlax]

Houston has 1 real win. Any team claiming to be a contender shouldn't give a shit about going 4-0 against the Lakers, Jazz, Celtics, and ****ing Sixers.

If they go 3-0 against Miami/SA/GS and win them all convincingly, then let's talk. Until then this is just James Harden in regular season mode and the Rockets feasting on weak competition in zero pressure situations...again.

You said we'd miss the playoffs so our wins against these other teams should be good in your eyes right?

[UK2K]

You said we'd miss the playoffs so our wins against these other teams should be good in your eyes right?
Yes I do believe he picked the Rockets to miss the playoffs

[RoseCity07]

They've had one of the easiest schedules. Miami is their first quality win. Utah looks alright but even they aren't a playoff team.

I can see Houston losing the next two games.

[Milbuck]

Would you have shed a tear had Harden grabbed a 10th board? Pretty sure the board predicted Miami to win, some posters even predicting a double digit win.

Couldn't have been more wrong. Must have been a rough night for you.

I bet the Suns thought the same thing before the Jazz dropped 118 on them and beat them by 27.
"Rough night for me" :oldlol:

None of this shit matters, dude. At the end of the day I was right about Houston and Harden before last postseason, and I'll be right about it this year too.

When the intensity cranks up, the games matter, and there's nowhere to hide...Harden will piss himself and the Rockets will crumble. This is all the drive before the crash.

[Milbuck]

You said we'd miss the playoffs so our wins against these other teams should be good in your eyes right?
Yeah, sure. :oldlol:

You guys go ahead and keep climaxing over wins against the Sixers and Lakers.

[oarabbus]

Houston will make the playoffs but they are a quintessential "missing piece" team right now. They need to sign another scorer most likely if they want to go deep into the playoffs.

[PsychoBe]

the rockets are a legit first round exit :oldlol:

[Mr Exlax]

Yeah, sure. :oldlol:

You guys go ahead and keep climaxing over wins against the Sixers and Lakers.

I'm not climaxing. Stop dodging my question though bro.

[Biggyd81]

4 away games and 2 b2b fixtures in 5 games all wins. :cheers: