A genuine discussion about Jeremy Lin's future in the NBA

[Kidbasketball20]

I've been a huge fan of his from the Knicks days, but watching these Lakers games makes me very concerned for his future as a starting PG.



He has some major major weaknesses both from a mental perspective (attacking, aggressiveness, not being passive) to his jump shot and TO's.


The only way he can play at his best is when the entire team/lineup is geared towards him (Pick and roll, Spot up shooters, HE has the ball 90% of the time) and I don't see any team ever doing that.


Having said that the biggest knock I have on him is his inconsistency. He has games where he looks tremendous and like a top 5 caliber PG, and he has games where he looks like garbage. Plain and simple.


So what does he need to do to stay a starting PG in the league next season?

[Cocaine80s]

Dude barely looks like a starter for the worst team in the league.

He either will be a bench player or in China next season

[Mr.Kite]

He won't even be able to beat starbury in china

[Bobcats2013]

He needs the real Dantoni. Not the fake Dantoni that welted under the pressure of benching Gasol.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Thats what happens when u overpay and overrate a player based on their ethnicity and stretch on one of the greatest systems that make mediocre players look MVP caliber
Lin will be known as a worse Flip Murray but hes gettin paid (wrongly)

[Taller than CP3]

Jeremy should play in China, then he can make 24 mil/year just like Kobe.

[sammichoffate]

Why the Lakers didn't sign Thomas over him i'll never know

[IncarceratedBob]

Why the Lakers didn't sign Thomas over him i'll never know
They traded for lin

He's an expirer and they don't want to Tie up any future money

[BigBoss]

Jeremy Lin is limp bizkit soft

[sammichoffate]

They traded for lin

He's an expirer and they don't want to Tie up any future moneyThomas is actually getting LESS and is a MUCH better player than Lin. Unless you're trying to get Rondo or WB, then signing Lin over him is retarded :facepalm

[IncarceratedBob]

Thomas is actually getting LESS and is a MUCH better player than Lin. Unless you're trying to get Rondo or WB, then signing Lin over him is retarded :facepalm
Well actually the Lakers didnt pursue IT at first b/c they were trying to get one of the big time FA's, and by the time they signed elsewhere IT had been won over by PHX. ITs dad is a huge laker fan and IT himself wanted to play in LA but he had to settle for PHX when LA didnt offer him anything. stupid ass move

[orange_chicken]

Jeremy Lin is a scrub! Send his azz back to China to become a communist.


Well actually the Lakers didnt pursue IT at first b/c they were trying to get one of the big time FA's, and by the time they signed elsewhere IT had been won over by PHX. ITs dad is a huge laker fan and IT himself wanted to play in LA but he had to settle for PHX when LA didnt offer him anything. stupid ass move

[sammichoffate]

Well actually the Lakers didnt pursue IT at first b/c they were trying to get one of the big time FA's, and by the time they signed elsewhere IT had been won over by PHX. ITs dad is a huge laker fan and IT himself wanted to play in LA but he had to settle for PHX when LA didnt offer him anything. stupid ass moveI honestly think they want to tank harder than last year for Okafor or Towns, that's the only reasonable explanation for not signing a quality player like Thomas.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Dude barely looks like a starter for the worst team in the league.

He either will be a bench player or in China next season
this

[oh the horror]

IMO he's in china In a season or two.

[FKAri]

IMO he's in china In a season or two.

There isn't a single active player on this roster that is still in the league in 2 seasons.

[oarabbus]

He averaged 13/5 his two years in Houston, in a system where I GUARANTEE he puts up worse numbers than in LA. Those are plenty serviceable numbers, sure his contract is way too high right now but any team will take 13/5 for a vet min type salary. I doubt he goes to play in China, at the very least he is proven to be a good 6th man.

And he's not the worst starter in the league. I mean Brandon Jennings may not even be starting, might have been benched for DJ Augustin. Shane Larkin is nothing special, neither are Norris Cole/Chalmers, Kirk Heinrich, etc. He'll also drop 20+ points a couple times in the coming months. I don't know he'll ever be a "gives you 15/6 every night" guy, it might be more he gives you 11/3 and then 22/7 another night.

[pnyozzzoo]

For some reason he seem to get worse with more practice, experience and dedication.

Maybe his mindset is just not suitable for competitive sports.

I mean you can tell after a few year in the nba he was not as raw as Linsanity period. at that time he just went to school full time and finished a degree. Now He basically live and breath and just do bball everyday.


But he become less and less "skilled" and more and more dry on the court. Like when he was a Knicks and begining of rockets he could spin move on a drive. Now he cannot do it at all. And his eurostep is gone too. His hop seems worse no lift on layup all the shots seem from way below the rim. And all his straight line drive to go baseline and Floater, he was using it like mad 2012-2013 now its completely gone, like the one he used on Dirk and Dwight(when he was a laker) now he drive and stop and stuck, if you see a rim protector jump early and float it up, he did them before and now its all gone. Confuses. me.

I guess when he got a contract and settle into NBA for real, the role you play , the pecking order, attention to him and thinking of team concept completely screwed him.Oh and maybe media's spotlight on his turnover rate also make him less daring make advance moves and he becomes more predictable. He did not improve and take advantage of practice ball everyday. He becomes more and more Limited per eye test. No more free flow no more creativity more and more dry and predictable. I mean ffs when he started he was better atpull up 3 than catch and shoot. Now his catch and shoot blows his pull up away. Weird as F.

[ImKobe]

gonna play for 5-6 mil a year on some middle of the pack team or end up in China... he has no room on a contender or even a Western Conference Playoff team. He doesn't belong. Loses his dribble way too often, bad defense, questionable shot selection. Lack of consistency.

[pastis]

wait.... 18 points on 8 attempts is not that bad? cause kobe gets all the attempts, he cant score rly more.

and 3 assists....well ok, this has to improve...but lin never was the typically "assist-pg".?:confusedshrug:

[iamgine]

I've been a huge fan of his from the Knicks days, but watching these Lakers games makes me very concerned for his future as a starting PG.



He has some major major weaknesses both from a mental perspective (attacking, aggressiveness, not being passive) to his jump shot and TO's.


The only way he can play at his best is when the entire team/lineup is geared towards him (Pick and roll, Spot up shooters, HE has the ball 90% of the time) and I don't see any team ever doing that.


Having said that the biggest knock I have on him is his inconsistency. He has games where he looks tremendous and like a top 5 caliber PG, and he has games where he looks like garbage. Plain and simple.


So what does he need to do to stay a starting PG in the league next season?
Lakers ball movement are terrible. I saw Jeremy got open on the perimeter many times but his teammates didn't pass, opting to bullrush in traffic instead.

I think he can be involved in many ways, not just when the entire lineup is geared towards him. But that's the key, he has to be involved and utilized when he is open. He will thrive in a team that has good ball movement.

I think in the Spurs as a replacement for aging Ginobili, he'll be perfect.

[KungFuJoe]

He'll be fine. Just needs to find his groove. He's had games of 17 and 18pts already. He played good tonight and against the Clippers.

If you can do that against cp3 and the Suns backcourt you should be fine.

Not that he doesn't have his issues but in terms of experience he's still a relatively young player. He just needs a few good games in a row and he'll settle in.

Don't forget this dude has had multiple 30+ pt games and has an assist high of 14.

He needs more confidence.

[oarabbus]

He'll have some great games soon enough. He averaged 13/5 in his two years in Houston, his contract is too high but many teams will take a 13/5 PG (for the record I think he'll put up better numbers in LA) for $6-8 million. The China talk is an exaggeration.

[Cocaine80s]

Lakers ball movement are terrible. I saw Jeremy got open on the perimeter many times but his teammates didn't pass, opting to bullrush in traffic instead.

I think he can be involved in many ways, not just when the entire lineup is geared towards him. But that's the key, he has to be involved and utilized when he is open. He will thrive in a team that has good ball movement.

I think in the Spurs as a replacement for aging Ginobili, he'll be perfect.
he would be nice on the spurs now that i think about it.

anywhere else would be bad tho

[WeGetRing2012]

I like him as our backup PG going forward. Kinda like a Sasha/Farmar hybrid. Players like him are huge coming off the bench for championship teams

[strifed169]

Kobe's eats PGs alive, **** passing you the ball, iso kobe all day, thats what Kobe was trying to tell Lin but he doesn't understand, too beta

[Micku]

Lakers ball movement are terrible. I saw Jeremy got open on the perimeter many times but his teammates didn't pass, opting to bullrush in traffic instead.

I think he can be involved in many ways, not just when the entire lineup is geared towards him. But that's the key, he has to be involved and utilized when he is open. He will thrive in a team that has good ball movement.

I think in the Spurs as a replacement for aging Ginobili, he'll be perfect.


Definitely. I think Pop and his system would be great for him.

[Kidbasketball20]

he would be nice on the spurs now that i think about it.

anywhere else would be bad tho


Cocaine80s saying something non critical of Lin :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:

[9erempiree]

He is downright garbage right now. I don't trust him to drive to the basket. He will make his shots in rhythm or open but he can't do anything when he drives. He loses the ball too much to be trusted.

[AirFederer]

He'll be fine. Just needs to find his groove. He's had games of 17 and 18pts already. He played good tonight and against the Clippers.

If you can do that against cp3 and the Suns backcourt you should be fine.

Not that he doesn't have his issues but in terms of experience he's still a relatively young player. He just needs a few good games in a row and he'll settle in.

Don't forget this dude has had multiple 30+ pt games and has an assist high of 14.

He needs more confidence.

Yep. But somehow I don`t think Kobe will let him get neither the ball nor confidence :lol

[ImKobe]

Kobe's eats PGs alive, **** passing you the ball, iso kobe all day, thats what Kobe was trying to tell Lin but he doesn't understand, too beta

Yeah...no. Last time he played with a legitimate PG, he still had an afro.

If only Nick stayed in place of Fisher. Lakers maybe 4-peat. Dude had a career year playing for Denver in 02, before getting traded to Dallas :(

[outbreak]

People are going to far here. He's looked bad and I never thought he was a legit starter with how many quality point guards there are in bench roles right now but he Is still role player quality in the right situation

[IMObjective]

Jeremy Lin is a scrub! Send his azz back to China to become a communist.
Don't be ignorant, he's a Taiwanese American that was born in the states.

Seems like his true role in the NBA should be 6th man. There's no reason for Asian guys to be hung up on this guy, he'll never be the star they want him to be. What he is important for is that he showed everyone that Asian guys under 7 feet can make it into the NBA. There will be other Asian guys with more talent to come along.

[StephHamann]

next Robert Sacre

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxVuySQT-eY

waive towels, cheer for your teammates, suck teammates **** after bad games

:applause:

[GimmeThat]

Don't be ignorant, he's a Taiwanese American that was born in the states.

Seems like his true role in the NBA should be 6th man. There's no reason for Asian guys to be hung up on this guy, he'll never be the star they want him to be. What he is important for is that he showed everyone that Asian guys under 7 feet can make it into the NBA. There will be other Asian guys with more talent to come along.


can you imagine how many great Chinese pitchers that could fill up the MLB if only the sports was just a bit more popular there

[Lebronxrings]

top 10 pg, but just cant display his talents due to kobe ball.

[I<3NBA]

His future is fine. If you look at his stats average, you'd see they're still better than some of the worse PGs in the league. At worst, he goes back to being a bench PG. He wasn't supposed to be a starter anyway. Nash got injured.

[DMV2]

He seems to be even worse now than he was in Houston. At least in Houston, he was able to have a handful of good games in a row then sucking the next two games.

Now it's like one good game, next bad game, then good game, then bad game...if this keeps on repeating, he's out of the league next year.

Isn't it his contract year also?

[stevieming]

Jeremy needs to recognize that apart from Kobe, he's the only one that's got to go get his....

shoot that ball man....he needs to be averaging 12-14 shots a game....8 shots is way too little!! Plus he needs to score to get his game going.

He needs to up his pull up j man, his game is so predictable right now...

1. Drive all the way
2. Drive, fake and shoot layup - this is such a bad option as he's had this swatted back in his face so many times...
3. Shoot 3

FFS, pull up for some 2s, shoot a few floaters, mix it up.

He loses confidence too easily, I could tell he was bothered in that suns game when he got blocked on his first layup attempt....

Doesn't help Byron is not playing Ed Davis with Jeremy, as those two have great chemistry togther already....Boozer needs to sit.

Jeremy will hopefully stay in the NBA but at this rate, he's going to be a bench player all day long. Spurs will probably pick him up on the cheap!! lol $1m a season....

[bagelred]

I like this thread because it's genuine.

[Optimus Prime]

Bench roleplayer on a vet's minimum salary, if he remains in the league at all. Severely disappointed that Lin looks so done. You'd figure with him getting what he wanted: starting and will the ball in his hands, he'd look like Linsanity again.

Not even close.

:kobe: