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bonez26
11-10-2014, 05:56 PM
Hey guys been awhile since I posted but didn't see anything on this trade rumour and thought I just may throw it out to see your reactions to it.

Here is the link:

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/33-crazy-predictions-for-the-nba-season/

Personally I would not mind this considering what were giving up as long as the draft pick is protected probably till the mid to low first round. (may 15-20ish). The chuck hayes and fields contractswould be of minimal loss to us as they are not rotation guys.
It would also give us some length and bulk at three to guard some of the lebron's and joe johnson's of the world while moving terrence to the second unit till he provides more consistency.

Thoughts?

Legends66NBA7
11-10-2014, 07:10 PM
I think Masai holds onto the expiring deals and picks. Green is just a poor man's Rudy Gay. He's very inconsistent on both ends of the floor.

I don't see the Raptors making a move yet, but it won't be for Green.

Qwyjibo
11-10-2014, 07:42 PM
I don't think the Raptors make a deal yet either unless it's for an established All-Star (once again, my dream of Al Horford). A lot of things are up in the air at the SF and PF spots though.

Amir will be a free agent and while he's a good player to have, it wouldn't hurt to upgrade that spot and have Amir as the primary PF/C coming off the bench. It also depends on his price in the offseason.

Ross is also the most likely guy to be traded from the active roster if a deal for an established player comes along. Then there's thte mystery that is Bruno. We have no clue what the plan for him is.

Chamberlain
11-11-2014, 11:40 AM
Not a rumour, just a baseless prediction. It'd be an interesting idea, though.

bluerap
11-11-2014, 12:23 PM
I think there are 2 really good free agent targets for the raps next season.
1. Jeff Green
2. Paul Milsap

I am hoping we can grab one of them (Milsap is my first choice). But no need to trade an asset for him at this point. The nice thing about Green is that he can play the four if Amir gets hurt, but right now who's spot does he take?

Ross? JJ? I just don't see it right now. I wouldn't want to trade anything of value for him because he can become a free agent next year. The best I would offer them is a lottery protected draft pick and an expiring contract.

Jballer
11-12-2014, 09:45 AM
I think everyone is overlook Monroe at the 4 who signed a 1 year QO if I recall correctly.

He would be a UFA next season.

I don't know if GMonroe is a max player (I don't think so) but he seems to be unhappy with the situation in Detroit. Further he has "near and overlooked all star numbers" much like many of the players on the current squad.

While Amir, Hansborough, Hayes all bring something as bigs it is mostly those contracts that expire (in addition to Landry).

Personally I hope Amir wants to stay and can work something out within the cap space but Amir is not young anymore and his ankles are questionable.

I think Monroe would be plan 1b subject to other less probable targets.

raptorfan_dr07
11-14-2014, 06:06 PM
I would stay far away from Jeff Green. James Johnson has been great this season and does everything Green does at a much cheaper price.

bluerap
11-15-2014, 10:57 AM
I would stay far away from Jeff Green. James Johnson has been great this season and does everything Green does at a much cheaper price.

I love JJ, but dude can't shoot for Sh!t. Jeff Green is a much better offensive player.

BoogieWoogieMan
11-15-2014, 03:07 PM
I love JJ, but dude can't shoot for Sh!t. Jeff Green is a much better offensive player.

Green doesn't play anywhere close to good defensively as JJ does.

bluerap
11-15-2014, 04:27 PM
Did you see the game where Green was guarding Derozan? He completely shut him down.

Doesn't matter though. JJ is a back up. He is most effective in that roll. JG is a starter. They both can play on the same team. (both are capable of playing the 3 or 4) so they can even be on the court together.

barkleynash
11-15-2014, 05:18 PM
Green kinda scares me, in that it would most likely mean a trade of Ross. What this raptors team needs to do is get bigger inside and find a legit power forward. I'd love Millsap, but would even make due with a 34 year old David West to be flipped for hayes and fields. I'd start him with Val and bring Amir and Patterson off the bench. I'm tired of getting abused inside by the Bulls of the world.

My vote is West now, or Millsap first and Monroe second in free agency.

Legends66NBA7
11-15-2014, 06:32 PM
I don't know why the Raptors would go after Monroe. He's a center playing PF and he would just be redundant with JV. I know he and Amir are close friends, but I just don't see the fit.

barkleynash
11-15-2014, 06:49 PM
He would be a fit, only if he could play with JV and Amir. He would have to provide back to the basket scoring, defence, and maybe, most importantly, defensive rebounding. We need to get bigger up front.
Or Casey has to start letting JV play and work through foul trouble. If he is not going to play in crunch time, why does he get yanked early. Give him his 28 minutes in the first 3 and a half quarters. Put him back out there with the second unit and give him touches. Guy won't develop if he has an immediate hook.

lilbeastnani
11-16-2014, 12:40 PM
IMO, T-Ross has a very low ceiling. He's not a gifted passer/playmaker. His defense which was being raved about last year is just average to slightly above average to me. All he's good for is a spot up 3 or a highlight dunk. There's no in between game. So i'm all for trading him if the right opportunity presents iself.

T-Low
11-16-2014, 04:01 PM
I agree with Beast. The just of Ross' good games are all because of that 3 point shot. He hasn't been able to provide some good defense nor hashe been able to create his own shot. But put someone in the starting lineup that could guard the perimeter, create his own shot and still be able to shoot that 3, would probably be best at this current time.

Jballer
11-19-2014, 11:59 AM
He would be a fit, only if he could play with JV and Amir. He would have to provide back to the basket scoring, defence, and maybe, most importantly, defensive rebounding. We need to get bigger up front.
Or Casey has to start letting JV play and work through foul trouble. If he is not going to play in crunch time, why does he get yanked early. Give him his 28 minutes in the first 3 and a half quarters. Put him back out there with the second unit and give him touches. Guy won't develop if he has an immediate hook.

I think Monroe would be more than just a good fit with Amir and JV.

(Amir is older and his ankles are a concern. This is about next season and a groomed replacement down the road)

If your front court is :

5) JV - 33 min / Stiemsa - 20 minute / Bebe / Monroe or Amir through rotation

4) Monroe - 33 min / Amir / Patterson

(Assumptions next year - Hayes is gone)

Add that "d" "rebounding" and scoring to the existing back court and I think you are locked and loaded to tackle anyone in the NBA..

I mean I think you would be adding the potential of : (1) 9 + RBs and (2) 15 points per game without necessarily seeing a big drop off any other players stats in the front court. I think you may see minor drop off in scoring in the back court as the offense shifts to "feeding the big men and playing inside out 50+ % of the time" as opposed to the current "drive and dish or try to pick and roll" outside in game 75% of the time.

Monroe is a 15 pts / 495% shooter/ 9.3 RBs / 0.02 assist > turnovers possession type ... over the last 2-3 seasons.

I think the only knock on GMan is surprisingly underwhelming shot blocking given his skill ; but I could see a Casey defensive scheme improve that substantively.

bonez26
11-24-2014, 05:45 PM
I think Monroe would be more than just a good fit with Amir and JV.

(Amir is older and his ankles are a concern. This is about next season and a groomed replacement down the road)

If your front court is :

5) JV - 33 min / Stiemsa - 20 minute / Bebe / Monroe or Amir through rotation

4) Monroe - 33 min / Amir / Patterson

(Assumptions next year - Hayes is gone)

Add that "d" "rebounding" and scoring to the existing back court and I think you are locked and loaded to tackle anyone in the NBA..

I mean I think you would be adding the potential of : (1) 9 + RBs and (2) 15 points per game without necessarily seeing a big drop off any other players stats in the front court. I think you may see minor drop off in scoring in the back court as the offense shifts to "feeding the big men and playing inside out 50+ % of the time" as opposed to the current "drive and dish or try to pick and roll" outside in game 75% of the time.

Monroe is a 15 pts / 495% shooter/ 9.3 RBs / 0.02 assist > turnovers possession type ... over the last 2-3 seasons.

I think the only knock on GMan is surprisingly underwhelming shot blocking given his skill ; but I could see a Casey defensive scheme improve that substantively.

I am a big believer that the raps are just 1 big and maybe an upgrade at SF away from contenting for the title.

I am also of the belief (and a huge fan of) Greg Monroe. He's the piece were missing that can take some of the pressure of Jonas. He's also one of the top passing bigman and a solid double double guy.
As for SF we really need ross to start playing more consistently in his 4th year otherwise I think its time to ship his and move JJ to the starting three and move him to the second unit. In any case if they can address these two issues we will have a chance to be title contender.

Toni
11-24-2014, 08:34 PM
Green is rumoured to be on the trade block. He has been extremely frustrated playing on a losing Celtics squad throughout the past couple years during their rebuilding process. He makes $9.2 million dollars this season with a player option for the same amount next year.

He is not the greatest defensive player although he would be a great addition to our offensive attack and provide some size at the 3 spot. This would most definitely disrupt the minutes in the rotation for Ross, Williams, Vazquez and Johnson, however.

bluerap
11-25-2014, 11:38 PM
i'd hate to make a trade right now. it would totally mess with the momentum.

later in the season I would definitely consider a trade with boston. I think Jeff Green and J.Sullinger could potentially make this team a legit contender.

Himan12
11-26-2014, 12:25 AM
i'd hate to make a trade right now. it would totally mess with the momentum.

later in the season I would definitely consider a trade with boston. I think Jeff Green and J.Sullinger could potentially make this team a legit contender.

Agreed.

If it aint broke dont fix it.

T-Low
11-26-2014, 07:24 AM
I don't know why, but I look at this team and see a Detroit Pistons of 2004 look.

bluerap
11-26-2014, 09:21 AM
I don't know why, but I look at this team and see a Detroit Pistons of 2004 look.

That team had a better (and bigger) defensive front court.

T-Low
11-26-2014, 06:20 PM
That team had a better (and bigger) defensive front court.

I can agree with better defensive with the Wallace's holding down the fort. But with Ben at 6'8" and Rasheed at 6'11", the only bigger they were was in strength.