Spurs could miss the playoffs this year

[retaxis]

not saying they will however the west is very tough and the spurs have to fight hard every game to remain in the running. They cant expect to rest their starters as much as before because their bench will be exposed by the better teams. The west this year have teams which unlike previous years were gelling/growing like the trailblazers, pelicans, rockets, clippers etc are now in their primes to make a run for the whole show. Even other teams like the mavs, okc, Memphis and the suns are playing very well and aiming to upset in the playoffs. Top 8 teams in the west are all very good and the spurs have to take the regular season very seriously to even make it to the playoffs this year and that might be more difficult with the old legs

[Smook A.]

:oldlol:

[navy]

Wouldnt surprise me.

Guarantees in life:
Death
Taxes
Spurs failing to repeat

[SouBeachTalents]

Gotta love November threads like this

[qrich]

:roll:

[retaxis]

Spurs are a team built for the playoffs not the regular season grind. Someone want to let us know how old Tim, parker and Gino is?

[T_L_P]

All of the teams you listed getting better, except one, made the Playoffs last year. :oldlol:

Fail thread.

[funnystuff]

Another boring series to watch if they do though.

[T_L_P]

Another boring series to watch if they do though.

Best offense in almost a decade.

I think not.

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Wouldnt surprise me.

Guarantees in life:
Death
Taxes
Spurs making the playoffs with Duncan
Spurs failing to repeat

fify

[gcvbcat]

They are not willing 50 games this season for sure & will lose early in the playoffs.

sad but true.

[Done_And_Done]

I grasp your premise but this is the San Antonio Spurs we're talking about here. Their track record and quality roster dictate otherwise. They'll be there come April...

[funnystuff]

Best offense in almost a decade.

I think not.
Best offense =/= exciting offense

[T_L_P]

Best offense =/= exciting offense

Exactly what is.

Gortat compared to it to Mozart. A sophisticated man he is. :cheers:

[retaxis]

I grasp your premise but this is the San Antonio Spurs we're talking about here. Their track record and quality roster dictate otherwise. They'll be there come April...
The Constantinoples said the same thing about their wall just before the ottomans tore it down

[Leroy Jetson]

Many years the Spurs have taken time to tune up and get rolling. The injuries aren't helping either. Leonard's vision is not 100% that's partly why he's shooting so bad. Spurs will get it together. Gotta love the over-reactions on ISH.

[retaxis]

Many years the Spurs have taken time to tune up and get rolling. The injuries aren't helping either. Leonard's vision is not 100% that's partly why he's shooting so bad. Spurs will get it together. Gotta love the over-reactions on ISH.
This is a discussion thread about the grind of the regular season for old timers not a reaction thread. No one made any absurd statements betting or guaranteeing anything if you attempted to read.

[hawksdogsbraves]

I think they'll make it but if Duncan twists his ankle and misses some games...?

The West is really brutal this year. It's not a foregone conclusion that they waltz into the playoffs again.

[Smoke117]

http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Jake-Gyllenhaal-Has-a-Headache-In-a-Dramatic-Movie-Scene.gif

[Done_And_Done]

The Constantinoples said the same thing about their wall just before the ottomans tore it down

Those dang Ottomans. No shame I tells ya!

*pumps fist repeatedly to the sky

[Sheik1287]

Spurs haven't missed the playoffs since Duncan has been drafted no? I wouldn't count them out.

[Genaro]

17 years in a row in the playoffs they will be there.

[T_L_P]

Spurs haven't missed the playoffs since Duncan has been drafted no? I wouldn't count them out.

Haven't won less than 50 since drafting Duncan, other than the 99 lockout, where we won 37 of 50 games.

[Sheik1287]

Haven't won less than 50 since drafting Duncan, other than the 99 lockout, where we won 37 of 50 games.
That's real efficiency:applause:

[Done_And_Done]

A 50 dollar bet against the Spurs making the playoffs in Vegas would probably earn you a payback of a cool 5million...

[inclinerator]

they can, a 500 team after tonight

[Leroy Jetson]

This is a discussion thread about the grind of the regular season for old timers not a reaction thread. No one made any absurd statements betting or guaranteeing anything if you attempted to read.
The title of the thread is that the Spurs might miss the playoffs. That is an over reaction.

[DaSeba5]

There's more of a chance of the Sixers playing the Lakers in the Finals than the Spurs missing the playoffs.

[Pushxx]

Spurs are a team built for the playoffs not the regular season grind. Someone want to let us know how old Tim, parker and Gino is?

Funny because before last year everyone said the complete opposite, especially the year OKC backdoor-swept them.

They undid a ~9-year reputation with one championship.:applause:

[Harison]

OKC has much greater chance of missing Playoffs than Spurs :confusedshrug:

[retaxis]

Spurs are a great team but Like I said earlier, they had to grind it tonight. It would be great to preserve Tim,Parker, Gino approx 25-27mins a night however both Tim and parker had to play around 35 tonight. Over a whole season, this could increase the risk of injury, fatigue etc.

No one can argue that over a 7 game series starting right now the Spurs aren't favourite to win it all but if they have to grind it like they did tonight..I am not sure the old fellas can hold it together.

[BuffaloBill]

Spurs are a great team but Like I said earlier, they had to grind it tonight. It would be great to preserve Tim,Parker, Gino approx 25-27mins a night however both Tim and parker had to play around 35 tonight. Over a whole season, this could increase the risk of injury, fatigue etc.

No one can argue that over a 7 game series starting right now the Spurs aren't favourite to win it all but if they have to grind it like they did tonight..I am not sure the old fellas can hold it together.



They aren't playing the Clippers every night though.

[NZStreetBaller]

Lmao underrating the spurs every goddam season..... they basically had the snips to defuse the heat dynastyTX

[Kidbasketball20]

Who cares. I'd still bet them to make it further than most Western playoff teams even if they were an 8 seed.

[Done_And_Done]

Who cares. I'd still bet them to make it further than most Western playoff teams even if they were an 8 seed.

An 8th seeded Spurs team gives me a betting erection

[mehyaM24]

i doubt it - but now that manu and parker are a year older, and finally wrote the wrong (duncan missed a pointblank layup in the 2013 finals to seal the deal) in this past NBA finals - i am not sure they have much left in the tank as far as incentive.

maybe not winning 2x could be something that would motivate them. i dont know though.

[T_L_P]

i doubt it - but now that manu and parker are a year older, and finally wrote the wrong (duncan missed a pointblank layup in the 2013 finals to seal the deal) in this past NBA finals - i am not sure they have much left in the tank as far as incentive.

maybe not winning 2x could be something that would motivate them. i dont know though.

Hyperbole much. The shot wouldn't have even given them the lead.

[Artillery]

Nah, they'll win 50+ games like always. 8th seed this year will probably need 48 or 49 wins. Even the weakest Spur team in the Duncan era still won 50 games in 2010.

[mehyaM24]

The shot wouldn't have even given them the lead.

maybe. maybe not - but we do KNOW that it came at a pivotal time during the game. a big momentum changer. gotta be up there with some of the worst chokes all-time

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2818167/duncanmiss.gif

:biggums:

[T_L_P]

maybe. maybe not - but we do KNOW that it came at a pivotal time during the game. a big momentum changer. gotta be up there with some of the worst chokes all-time

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2818167/duncanmiss.gif

:biggums:

So you say it would have sealed the deal now you're talking about it changing momentum. :roll:

Parker and Manu, our best players the past 8 years according to you, choked far worse.

Parker got outscored by the worst starting PG in the league in games 6 and 7 and Manu was Miami's second most valuable player. But whatever suits your agenda.

[mehyaM24]

Parker and Manu, our best players the past 8 years according to you, choked far worse.

Parker got outscored by the worst starting PG in the league in games 6 and 7 and Manu was Miami's second most valuable player. But whatever suits your agenda.

eh, i dont think they've ever missed two point blank layups on a player they had 4 or 5 inches on.

its not THAT big of a deal i guess, since the spurs made up for that choke the following season. :confusedshrug:

[Artillery]

eh, i dont think they've ever missed two point blank layups on a player they had 4 or 5 inches on.

its not THAT big of a deal i guess, since the spurs made up for that choke the following season. :confusedshrug:

Duncan, Leonard, Green were the Spurs three best players that series. Not sure why you're finding fault with the performance of a 37 year old having a historic Finals series for someone his age. Parker and Ginobili are the two most at fault for that series.

[T_L_P]

eh, i dont think they've ever missed two point blank layups on a player they had 4 or 5 inches on.

its not THAT big of a deal i guess, since the spurs made up for that choke the following season. :confusedshrug:

Parker shoots 26% in the last 2 games. Manu has 12 TOs. Duncan scores 30 and then 24, outproducing Manu and Parker combined.

Duncan choked. Parker and Manu choked and played like D-League scrubs. Not really a comparison. :oldlol:

But yes, making LeBron leave one All-Star threesome and join another more than made up for it. :pimp:

[mehyaM24]

Duncan choked.

^^^^ all that needs be said brah :rockon:

[T_L_P]

^^^^ all that needs be said brah :rockon:

Everyone does though. LeBron has 2 of the 3 worst in NBA history and he's still a top 10 player of all time. :cheers:

Edit: I still find it funny that you'd call Parker and Manu the best Spurs and not hold them accountable. I guess it just goes to show how easy it is to tell when someone is making things up.

[Purch]

:roll: :roll:

[SpecialQue]

OP setting the new standard for retarded predictions.

[Done_And_Done]

Nupps!

[retaxis]

No one came out and said the Spurs will miss the playoffs:lol :lol

But If Tim/Parker continue to play 35mins a game, I am however willing to bet that there will be a serious injury by April. Now thats a 'prediction'.

[retaxis]

OP setting the new standard for retarded predictions.
Think the only retarded/delusional one here is you. Why do you see a discussion with a 'could' turn into a predicted guarantee. Get a life buddy you see rivals everywhere cos your a straight up internet b1tch.

[IMObjective]

Everyone does though. LeBron has 2 of the 3 worst in NBA history and he's still a top 10 player of all time. :cheers:

Edit: I still find it funny that you'd call Parker and Manu the best Spurs and not hold them accountable. I guess it just goes to show how easy it is to tell when someone is making things up.lol, you know he's just trying to get a rise out of ish's greatest Duncan stan, the samuraiswoosh for Duncan if you will.

[inclinerator]

2-7 the last 9 games

[navy]

2-7 the last 9 games
:biggums:


Nostradamus.

[Euroleague]

They could. They are still better than teams like the Suns though. So I doubt it.

But yeah, it could happen. Duncan is as washed up as washed up gets, and Manu is pretty much already a retired player.

Other than Paker, it's just a few good role players, then a bunch of scrubs. But it's still better than other teams fighting for the playoffs though.

[T_L_P]

:biggums:


Nostradamus.

I think it's 2-8 in the last 10. :biggums:

If there were one more elite Western team, our Playoff chances would be in jeopardy.

OKC can surpass us. But the Pelicans and Suns are ultimately a .550 team at best (45-48 wins) and we're clearly above that (even right now, with Kawhi, Tony and Patty out).

[navy]

I think it's 2-8 in the last 10. :biggums:

If there were one more elite Western team, our Playoff chances would be in jeopardy.

OKC can surpass us. But the Pelicans and Suns are ultimately a .550 team at best (45-48 wins) and we're clearly above that (even right now, with Kawhi, Tony and Patty out).
They wont miss the playoffs. Still good for 50 wins as well.

They aint repeating though. It's tradition.

[Euroleague]

So you say it would have sealed the deal now you're talking about it changing momentum. :roll:

Parker and Manu, our best players the past 8 years according to you, choked far worse.

Parker got outscored by the worst starting PG in the league in games 6 and 7 and Manu was Miami's second most valuable player. But whatever suits your agenda.

STOP TROLLING.

Duncan was a mega choker in that series.

[T_L_P]

They wont miss the playoffs. Still good for 50 wins as well.

They aint repeating though. It's tradition.

So was only winning rings in odd years. Last year changed that, brother.

Though I don't like our chances without Kawhi at 100%.

[Ariza4three]

STOP TROLLING.

Duncan was a mega choker in that series.
Go brush your teeth before I knock your ass out.

[navy]

So was only winning rings in odd years. Last year changed that, brother.

Though I don't like our chances without Kawhi at 100%.
Only winning rings in odd years makes no sense. That's superstition.

[Anaximandro1]

people who don't watch the Spurs tend to overreact.


The 2003 squad started 19-13 but finished 41-9 ... the 1999 squad started 6-8 but finished 31-5 ...


The only concern for the Spurs is health ... for example Grizz have lost four straight (Randolph is dealing with a knee injury) ... health will play a critical role in the Western Conference.

[KG215]

Didn't the Spurs get off to a pretty "meh" start last year before winning a bunch of games in a row and going on a tear the last 2-3 months of the season?

[konex]

They need Kawhii and Tony back to full strength

[red1]

Spurs could miss the playoffs this year
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mc4oajSpxC1qzytg1.jpg

[ninephive]

They could. They are still better than teams like the Suns though. So I doubt it.

But yeah, it could happen. Duncan is as washed up as washed up gets, and Manu is pretty much already a retired player.

Other than Paker, it's just a few good role players, then a bunch of scrubs. But it's still better than other teams fighting for the playoffs though.
I agree Parker is still our best player, but I don't think you can call Duncan, Kawhi, or Manu role players. They are still load-carriers on any given night.

[WallIn]

Yeah sure.

[Bandito]

Op is trying his best to be the dumbest poster this year.

[Top Gun]

They know the regular season is basically now a pre-season for them. They just use it to get into perfect shape for the postseason not worrying about seedings too much.

I bet they will take the 5th-8th seed if it means having everyone fit and firing.

[NZStreetBaller]

Didnt the spurs go on a 20 game win streak heading into the playoffs back in 2011 2012. And get the first seed??

Pop knows exactly how to win championships the man is a genius and knows that the nba season is a marathon especially for his old boys. Hes just coasting for the sprint heading into the playoffs. Come on surely you know that op.

[NZStreetBaller]

Spurs would rather seed low and be healthy and energized. Than seed 1st and be exhausted come playoff time. Last year they needed the 1 seed because they felt it would be useful against the heat in the finals

[Taller than CP3]

people who don't watch the Spurs tend to overreact.


The 2003 squad started 19-13 but finished 41-9 ... the 1999 squad started 6-8 but finished 31-5 ...

Overreact? It's 2014, your post has no merit. Put down the stat sheet.

[Kiddlovesnets]

Nah, they will win the NBA title again. Coming into playoffs they will be the most formidable team again, they just get tired of regular season.

[Milbuck]

I agree Parker is still our best player, but I don't think you can call Duncan, Kawhi, or Manu role players. They are still load-carriers on any given night.
They're all better and more impactful players than Tony Parker. Especially a healthy Kawhi, it's not even close there.

[ninephive]

They're all better and more impactful players than Tony Parker. Especially a healthy Kawhi, it's not even close there.
Defensively, yes. But a healthy Kawhi gives you 13-15 PPG and a healthy Parker gives you 20+. An injured Parker still outscored Kawhi all playoffs including the Finals last year. Get out of here with this "it's not even close" BS.

Tony Parker has averaged 20+ PPG in the playoffs 7 of the past 9 seasons. Kawhi has never even averaged 15.

[Milbuck]

Defensively, yes. But a healthy Kawhi gives you 13-15 PPG and a healthy Parker gives you 20+. An injured Parker still outscored Kawhi all playoffs including the Finals last year. Get out of here with this "it's not even close stuff."
Kawhi: 14/7/2/2/1 on 60% TS
Parker: 17/2/5/1 on 53% TS

Parker is marginally "better" on offense while being worthless on defense. I put quotations around better on offense because watching the games last year, specifically in the finals, his offensive impact oftentimes is negligible, meaning his numbers oftentimes don't mean anything.

He's just nowhere near as good as you think he is. He's a terrible defender, he frequently ruins the rhythm of the Spurs' offensive game plan, he over dribbles and gets his points but plays out of the flow...he's the weakest "elite PG" in the game today.
Tony Parker has averaged 20+ PPG in the playoffs 7 of the past 9 seasons. Kawhi has never even averaged 15.Wonderful. Good thing it's not 2007 anymore. Or 2008. Or 2009. Or 2010-2013. It's the 2014-15 season, and healthy Kawhi >>> Parker. You can bring up past seasons, it means nothing. Kobe Bryant being a top 10 ATG has nothing to do with him playing like ass right now. Same way Parker used to be an MVP candidate, but is nowhere near that right now.

[retaxis]

Its the old issue with spurs. Manage too many minutes of big 3 and may not make playoffs. Play too many minutes and big 3 will be injured for playoffs...father time

[Euroleague]

I agree Parker is still our best player, but I don't think you can call Duncan, Kawhi, or Manu role players. They are still load-carriers on any given night.

Duncan and Manu can't play any defense at all. Not even a little tiny bit. All they can do is give effort in small bursts of 2-3 minutes.

So yeah, they are pretty much done. And I didn't say they are role players. That's not what I said. I said they are done.

But don't get what I am saying confused. They have both been done for a LONG time. They went to back to back finals and won a championship, and they were both already easily done as players in that whole time.

The main thing is how Popovich manages the minutes of the team. However, at some point, playing a bunch of scrubs isn't going to work as well as it has in the past.

So I'm not even saying they can't still do well in the playoffs. Not at all, I am just stating a simple fact that Duncan and Manu are washed up has beens, and have been for many years now.

They have been at or worse than Kobe's status for YEARS. The difference is Popovich knows how to manage them properly, and then once you get to the playoffs, the format allows them to get a lot of rest.

I wasn't saying they were scrubs. I was talking about the rest of the team.

I said a few good role players and a bunch of scrubs - meaning I was talking about the players other than the big three.

[Euroleague]

Kawhi: 14/7/2/2/1 on 60% TS
Parker: 17/2/5/1 on 53% TS

Parker is marginally "better" on offense while being worthless on defense. I put quotations around better on offense because watching the games last year, specifically in the finals, his offensive impact oftentimes is negligible, meaning his numbers oftentimes don't mean anything.

He's just nowhere near as good as you think he is. He's a terrible defender, he frequently ruins the rhythm of the Spurs' offensive game plan, he over dribbles and gets his points but plays out of the flow...he's the weakest "elite PG" in the game today. Wonderful. Good thing it's not 2007 anymore. Or 2008. Or 2009. Or 2010-2013. It's the 2014-15 season, and healthy Kawhi >>> Parker. You can bring up past seasons, it means nothing. Kobe Bryant being a top 10 ATG has nothing to do with him playing like ass right now. Same way Parker used to be an MVP candidate, but is nowhere near that right now.

Duncan and Manu are absolutely horrific defenders. WTF are you smoking?

Besides that, it's the effect of Parker. The other team has to put their best defenders on him and game the whole defensive scheme against him. That opens up the whole rest of the team on offense, which is why scrubs like Splitter and Green, etc. can even get shots off.

You have thoroughly proven that you are not just a MEGA TROLL, but that you also have NEGATIVE basketball IQ with this post.

Saying anyone but Parker is best player on the Spurs, is same level as your absurd trolling about Giannis and European basketball.

[T_L_P]

Duncan and Manu are absolutely horrific defenders. WTF are you smoking?

Besides that, it's the effect of Parker. The other team has to put their best defenders on him and game the whole defensive scheme against him. That opens up the whole rest of the team on offense, which is why scrubs like Splitter and Green, etc. can even get shots off.

You have thoroughly proven that you are not just a MEGA TROLL, but that you also have NEGATIVE basketball IQ with this post.

Saying anyone but Parker is best player on the Spurs, is same level as your absurd trolling about Giannis and European basketball.

No Parker today, Green goes off.

Duncan is top 5 in opponent FG% at the rim.

We won game 6 against OKC last year with Parker's ass on the bench.

Nice troll job, troll.

[Spurs5Rings2014]

Duncan and Manu are absolutely horrific defenders. WTF are you smoking?

:biggums:

Now I know why everyone hates you around these parts.

[rmt]

Duncan and Manu are absolutely horrific defenders. WTF are you smoking?

Besides that, it's the effect of Parker. The other team has to put their best defenders on him and game the whole defensive scheme against him. That opens up the whole rest of the team on offense, which is why scrubs like Splitter and Green, etc. can even get shots off.

You have thoroughly proven that you are not just a MEGA TROLL, but that you also have NEGATIVE basketball IQ with this post.

Saying anyone but Parker is best player on the Spurs, is same level as your absurd trolling about Giannis and European basketball.

You obviously have not been watching the Spurs this season. Who do you think has been keeping the Spurs defense afloat with Splitter and Leonard missing lots of games? ESPN has Duncan as the Defensive Player of the first trimester:

http://espn.go.com/blog/marc-stein/post/_/id/3429/defensive-player-of-the-first-trimester-2

Leading the Spurs in Defensive Win Shares at 1.8 (Parker is #8 at 0.5) and Win Shares at 3.1 (Parker is #7 at 1.6) and #2 in Offensive Win Shares at 1.3 (Parker is #4 at 1.1)
#4 in blocks/game in NBA
#7 in rebs/game in NBA
#4 in double-doubles in NBA

so at 0.2 pts per game more than Duncan, you're calling Parker the best player on the Spurs totally ignoring the defensive half of the floor? Who should get the h**l out of here?

[rmt]

Duncan and Manu can't play any defense at all. Not even a little tiny bit. All they can do is give effort in small bursts of 2-3 minutes.

So yeah, they are pretty much done. And I didn't say they are role players. That's not what I said. I said they are done.

But don't get what I am saying confused. They have both been done for a LONG time. They went to back to back finals and won a championship, and they were both already easily done as players in that whole time.

The main thing is how Popovich manages the minutes of the team. However, at some point, playing a bunch of scrubs isn't going to work as well as it has in the past.

So I'm not even saying they can't still do well in the playoffs. Not at all, I am just stating a simple fact that Duncan and Manu are washed up has beens, and have been for many years now.

They have been at or worse than Kobe's status for YEARS. The difference is Popovich knows how to manage them properly, and then once you get to the playoffs, the format allows them to get a lot of rest.

I wasn't saying they were scrubs. I was talking about the rest of the team.

I said a few good role players and a bunch of scrubs - meaning I was talking about the players other than the big three.

What a disgrace! See my previous post for refuting your statements.

[MiseryCityTexas]

Another boring series to watch if they do though.


"Boring" Tony Parker is better than CP3.

[Tycriss]

not saying they will however the west is very tough and the spurs have to fight hard every game to remain in the running. They cant expect to rest their starters as much as before because their bench will be exposed by the better teams. The west this year have teams which unlike previous years were gelling/growing like the trailblazers, pelicans, rockets, clippers etc are now in their primes to make a run for the whole show. Even other teams like the mavs, okc, Memphis and the suns are playing very well and aiming to upset in the playoffs. Top 8 teams in the west are all very good and the spurs have to take the regular season very seriously to even make it to the playoffs this year and that might be more difficult with the old legs

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