So AD is on LeBron's level?

[dubeta]

:yaohappy:




Dont compare him to the King

[iTare]

http://i.imgur.com/quPfrd3.gif

[305Baller]

AD is the future.

[Micku]

AD is a stud man. Dude might be the best player in the league in the future.

[AKADS]

:yaohappy:




Dont compare him to the King
All people say is he is the third best player in the NBA who will only get better. Get over yourself,

[Asukal]

Bran is not on MJ's level tho. Don't compare this fake king to the GOAT. :oldlol:

[chazzy]

27/14/4/4/3 is nothing to scoff at though

[Dro]

Short answer.......No.

[LoneyROY7]

AD with 27/14/4/4/3 with 0 TOs on 12 of 20 shooting.

The f*ck is this idiot going on about?

[alenleomessi]

27/14/4/4/3 is nothing to scoff at though
didnt look as impressive as the numbers show though

[Solefade]

AD is pretty good tho, next legit superstar after Lebron

[supe12sta12z]

:yaohappy:




Dont compare him to the King

Yea.. especially with those 15 FTs.

[CJ Mustard]

27/14/4/4/3 is nothing to scoff at though
Did it relatively quietly too. That's the sign of a truly great player. :oldlol: This just seemed like an average day for him.

[K Xerxes]

He's not right now, but who knows what his ceiling is for the future. Definitely top 5 player right now, maybe even top 3. Dude is putting up monster performances.

[KBaller33]

In a couple years it's going to be him and KD at the top. AD is third right now.

[Smook A.]

He already passed LeBron's level.





Jk. Davis is in the elite tier, though. Kid's amazing.

[Ai2death]

Fvck Bron

[Rose'sACL]

Is OP a lebron hater because he tries to make everyone hate him.

[plowking]

Only player in the league that is close.

And you can make the case that he'll be just as effective as Lebron was as 21/22. Wait for the season to play out I guess.

[chazzy]

didnt look as impressive as the numbers show though
ok

[qrich]

AD with 27/14/4/4/3 with 0 TOs on 12 of 20 shooting.

The f*ck is this idiot going on about?

He's ecstatic that his superstacked team eeked out the win versus Davis and inferiority.

[sportjames23]

AD with 27/14/4/4/3 with 0 TOs on 12 of 20 shooting.

The f*ck is this idiot going on about?


dubeta gonna dubeta.

[LoneyROY7]

He's ecstatic that his superstacked team eeked out the win versus Davis and inferiority.

How sad is it to see how much EJ has declined? :(

[GrapeApe]

AD had a monster game. The kid is just scratching the surface of his ability too. He's going to be scary good.

[KG215]

Only player in the league that is close.

And you can make the case that he'll be just as effective as Lebron was as 21/22. Wait for the season to play out I guess.
So either you're excluding Durant because he's hurt or excluding Durant because...who knows why.

[dubeta]

Only player in the league that is close.

And you can make the case that he'll be just as effective as Lebron was as 21/22. Wait for the season to play out I guess.


LeBron at 21


31.4 ppg 7.3 rebounds 6.6 assists a game


kind of doubt it

[fpliii]

So either you're excluding Durant because he's hurt or excluding Durant because...who knows why.
I love Davis, but I don't think he's in that class with KD/LeBron/CP3 yet. Big box score numbers, but needs to be more consistent defensively.

[SHAQisGOAT]

People need to stop overrating him... With that said, dude's already great and still very young.

[GrapeApe]

LeBron at 21


31.4 ppg 7.3 rebounds 6.6 assists a game


kind of doubt it

When you factor in defense it could be pretty close.

[K Xerxes]

I love Davis, but I don't think he's in that class with KD/LeBron/CP3 yet. Big box score numbers, but needs to be more consistent defensively.

If he keeps up something close to this level for an entire season, I see no reason to believe why he's already not better than Paul. I think he has more 2 way impact on the game than Paul.

That said, for Bron and Durant, that will require a couple of seasons of consistent excellence to reach, but perfectly within his grasp especially as Bron will begin declining soon.

[G0ATbe]

He's far above it. LeBald will simply always be on the more stacked team though.

[KG215]

I love Davis, but I don't think he's in that class with KD/LeBron/CP3 yet. Big box score numbers, but needs to be more consistent defensively.
Yeah, I can't say much on the subject one way or the other. This is the only Pelicans game I've been able to watch this year, and I only got to watch most of the second half. If he's not top 3 yet, he'll very likely be there by the end of the year. I do agree about his defense, though, if that has carried over this year. From what I saw last year (when he was healthy) I do think he was a little overrated defensively. But obviously his defensive potential is pretty much limitless.

[SpecialQue]

People need to stop overrating him... With that said, dude's already great and still very young.

I agree with the first part, but the second part...come on. Lebron's been in the league for years now.

[Milbuck]

I agree with the first part, but the second part...come on. Lebron's been in the league for years now.
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/450/154/820.jpeg

That's how you use that picture right?

[navy]

I love Davis, but I don't think he's in that class with KD/LeBron/CP3 yet. Big box score numbers, but needs to be more consistent defensively.
Chris Paul isnt on Lebron or Durants level. :lol

Anthony Davis needs time. Big numbers average impact. Although he will clealy get there. Needs to stop letting the team chuck while he is on the court. Also needs to expand pass the pick and roll.

[StrongLurk]

I love Davis, but I don't think he's in that class with KD/LeBron/CP3 yet. Big box score numbers, but needs to be more consistent defensively.

Are you serious? Dude averages like 4 blocks and 3 steals a game.

[KG215]

If he keeps up something close to this level for an entire season, I see no reason to believe why he's already not better than Paul. I think he has more 2 way impact on the game than Paul.

That said, for Bron and Durant, that will require a couple of seasons of consistent excellence to reach, but perfectly within his grasp especially as Bron will begin declining soon.
This was pretty much my view on Davis going into the season. He certainly has the potential to reach the LeBron and KD tier, and thought he'd have a very good chance of overtaking Paul as the third best player in the league this year. But yeah, to just reach (let alone pass) Durant or LeBron, he's going to have to have several healthy seasons of sustained elite play, simply because that's how high Durant and LeBron have set the bar. LeBron is a top 5 talent all-time, and Durant will likely go down as one of the 15-25 best players ever, if not higher.

Now, if the Pelicans don't start improving in the win column within the next 2-3 years, then you have to start looking into just how impactful Davis really is. Right now he gets a pass because the Pelicans haven't been able to stay healthy the last two years. Of course Davis hasn't been able to stay healthy either, which could be a knock on him if that trend continues.

[dubeta]

He's far above it. LeBald will simply always be on the more stacked team though.

Kobe has a better team right now and is 1-5 :rolleyes:

[outbreak]

:biggums:

Davis had a great game that didn't require many plays to be ran for him. Sure his team lost but he didn't have the line up the cavs have and his coach is rubbish.

[Bless Mathews]

He's ecstatic that his superstacked team eeked out the win versus Davis and inferiority.


Slayed.

[DonDadda59]

AD just had another monster game, one in which teammates weren't doing enough to get him the balll on offense (I'm looking at you Tyreke :facepalm ).

On the other hand Bron had his first truly great game of the season and got grade A help from his all star friends. Both guys have led their teams (if you consider 11 pts in a game 'leading') to the same record despite LeHomeComing having the far better supporting cast.

[navy]

:biggums:

Davis had a great game that didn't require many plays to be ran for him. Sure his team lost but he didn't have the line up the cavs have and his coach is rubbish.

No disrespect to Davis, but he doesnt have the offense game yet to have a lot of plays run for him. Dude is an elite garbage man. Bait.

[Bless Mathews]

Are you serious? Dude averages like 4 blocks and 3 steals a game.


Lololololololol


Word.

Ffpliii needs to get permabanned for that nonsense.

:facepalm

Odds on favorite to win dpoy.

:facepalm

[Asukal]

Pfffft! Eyebrows will be the best player in 2-3 years and bran will be insignificant by then. :rolleyes:

[fpliii]

Chris Paul isnt on Lebron or Durants level. :lol
He's not their equal, but he's in the same tier IMO.

Are you serious? Dude averages like 4 blocks and 3 steals a game.
Blocks and steals don't tell us much about a guy's defense, cmon my dude. 90% of what guys do on that end is not captured in the box score.

[navy]

He's not their equal, but he's in the same tier IMO.



Nope. Tier below with Blake, Westbrook, Curry.

[fpliii]

Nope. Tier below with Blake, Westbrook, Curry.
Agree to disagree, that's not how I see it.

At most I'd say he's between the two groups (and I wouldn't put Griffin in with those two, and might include Dirk and a couple others).

[Suguru101]

He's not their equal, but he's in the same tier IMO.

Blocks and steals don't tell us much about a guy's defense, cmon my dude. 90% of what guys do on that end is not captured in the box score.

He's not. At all.

You're comparing a 6 foot tall guy who is an elite passer and a very good scorer, whose defense is really good but again, 6 foot tall..

To 6-8 and 6-10 monster wing players who are either All-Time Great (Durant) or Elite (LeBron) scorers, great rebounders, much more impactful defensively than CP3 will ever be, and then LeBron is at Bird's level when it comes to passing, and Durant has become a good passer for a SF.

CP3 is a hall of fame point guard, but he's not an All Time Great player/talent like LeBron and Durant are.

Not in the same tier.

[dubeta]

When AD is playing in the playoffs, where the game slows down, and garbage points are hard to come by, do you guys think he can still get 20+ points creating shots with his back to the basket in the halfcourt?

[SHAQisGOAT]

I agree with the first part, but the second part...come on. Lebron's been in the league for years now.

http://blogs.browardpalmbeach.com/pulp/james%20thumbs%20up.jpg

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2675485/respect.gif

[plowking]

So either you're excluding Durant because he's hurt or excluding Durant because...who knows why.

Hurt... calm down.

[mehyaM24]

AD is the best big in the league and no worse than top 3.

[fpliii]

He's not. At all.

You're comparing a 6 foot tall guy who is an elite passer and a very good scorer, whose defense is really good but again, 6 foot tall..

To 6-8 and 6-10 monster wing players who are either All-Time Great (Durant) or Elite (LeBron) scorers, great rebounders, much more impactful defensively than CP3 will ever be, and then LeBron is at Bird's level when it comes to passing, and Durant has become a good passer for a SF.

CP3 is a hall of fame point guard, but he's not an All Time Great player/talent like LeBron and Durant are.

Not in the same tier.
Respectfully disagree.

Would you guys have less of an issue with my statement if I said:

KD/LeBron
---
CP3
---
Curry, maybe AD, etc.

?

[navy]

Respectfully disagree.

Would you guys have less of an issue with my statement if I said:

KD/LeBron
---
CP3
---
Curry, etc.

?

Hmm...Why do you think Curry wont be on CP3's level THIS year.

[mehyaM24]

AD is the best big in the league and no worse than top 3.

the postseason, a caveat to this , will be his production if his team ever manages to get there. if AD can outplay (statistically) durant, who has come up short the last 2 or 3 playoff years, there will be little doubt as to who the better player is.

[fpliii]

Hmm...Why do you think Curry wont be on CP3's level THIS year.
Small sample overreaction. Based on past performance (last year), there is clear separation IMO. I'm also not a box scores guy, so take it fwiw.

[JohnFreeman]

CP3 is a piece of trash.

[Legends66NBA7]

CP3 is a piece of trash.

Welcome back.

[navy]

Small sample overreaction. Based on past performance (last year), there is clear separation IMO. I'm also not a box scores guy, so take it fwiw.
I dont know their numbers. But assuming Curry keeps getting better he could surpass CP3 this year.

[fpliii]

I dont know their numbers. But assuming Curry keeps getting better he could surpass CP3 this year.
idk man

[Paul George 24]

:yaohappy:




Dont compare him to the King
at least he is not coward

[Ai2death]

So far AD hasn't failed to deliver anything he has promised. So you are correct. Lebron isn't even on AD's level

[Milbuck]

Small sample overreaction. Based on past performance (last year), there is clear separation IMO. I'm also not a box scores guy, so take it fwiw.
What happened last year to make the separation clear? If anything Steph's season last year made the gap closer, imo.

[Megabox!]

So far AD hasn't failed to deliver anything he has promised. So you are correct. Lebron isn't even on AD's level
What promise did LBJ fail to deliver on?

[fpliii]

What happened last year to make the separation clear? If anything Steph's season last year made the gap closer, imo.
Steph was abysmal defensively (he doesn't look as bad this year). The impact stats (RAPM, with/without trends, team ORtg, etc.) all favor CP3.

Don't get me wrong, Curry was still clearly a top 5 player, and I have no problem if anyone takes him ahead of Paul. It's just not a difficult decision for me to make personally based on what I do/don't value.

[Ai2death]

What promise did LBJ fail to deliver on?

:facepalm

[Nash-tastic]

Steph was abysmal defensively (he doesn't look as bad this year). The impact stats (RAPM, with/without trends, team ORtg, etc.) all favor CP3.

Don't get me wrong, Curry was still clearly a top 5 player, and I have no problem if anyone takes him ahead of Paul. It's just not a difficult decision for me to make personally based on what I do/don't value.
What I do like about Curry is his improvement on defense this year and playing teamball. He tries to get everyone involved on offense and he has a very good passing team which is why I believe his assist numbers will dip but as shown in the Houston game when his team isn't performing Curry will step up and be the man. I do believe CP3 is ahead right now but Curry is closing the gap.

[Milbuck]

Steph was abysmal defensively (he doesn't look as bad this year). The impact stats (RAPM, with/without trends, team ORtg, etc.) all favor CP3.

Don't get me wrong, Curry was still clearly a top 5 player, and I have no problem if anyone takes him ahead of Paul. It's just not a difficult decision for me to make personally based on what I do/don't value.
Idk if they all favor CP3..Last season the Warriors ORTG with Steph on the floor was 111.9, 95.9 with him off, net +16. For CP3's Clippers it was 114.3 and 109.6, +4.7. Warriors were a net +8% eFG with Steph on the floor, Clippers were +3.2% eFG with CP3.

In the playoffs Curry statistically outplayed CP3 and the impact on his team was absurd, +37.0 in that series with his team shooting roughly 54% eFG with him on the floor and 38% with him off. 114 ORTG on, 88 ORTG off. And even the DRTG was substantially better with Curry on, 113 DRTG with him on and 124 DRTG with him off, and that's without their defensive anchor in Bogut.

I get what you're saying though..and agreed, I really don't care who someone prefers between those two. Last year if you asked me to build around one of them it'd depend totally on the rest of the roster..this year I might lean towards Steph regardless of team personnel.

[fpliii]

Idk if they all favor CP3..Last season the Warriors ORTG with Steph on the floor was 111.9, 95.9 with him off, net +16. For CP3's Clippers it was 114.3 and 109.6, +4.7. Warriors were a net +8% eFG with Steph on the floor, Clippers were +3.2% eFG with CP3.

In the playoffs Curry statistically outplayed CP3 and the impact on his team was absurd, +37.0 in that series with his team shooting roughly 54% eFG with him on the floor and 38% with him off. 114 ORTG on, 88 ORTG off. And even the DRTG was substantially better with Curry on, 113 DRTG with him on and 124 DRTG with him off, and that's without their defensive anchor in Bogut.

I get what you're saying though..and agreed, I really don't care who someone prefers between those two. Last year if you asked me to build around one of them it'd depend totally on the rest of the roster..this year I might lean towards Steph regardless of team personnel.
RAPM is preferable than raw on/off, but admittedly Curry's with/without trends do look better. I'll concede that.

I do weight playoff possessions more (3x as much as regular season possessions in my files), but in a single round, there's a ton of noise.

I'm not sure who I'd build around, in general I don't think you can win a title with a PG (though Curry is more of a hybrid player, playing off ball a ton this year) as your best player (unless the roster is super stacked). Would probably take a worse player from a different position, since ball-dominance gets predictable, and allows defenses to gameplan more easily (my primary complaint about CP3).

[Bless Mathews]

Bron wishes he had ads unibrow so he could transplant that to his hairline.

[Megabox!]

:facepalm
Soooo you're not going to explain it then? Because if you're talking about the promise he made to Cleveland a long time ago he still has a good chance to bring a championship there..

[Ai2death]

Soooo you're not going to explain it then? Because if you're talking about the promise he made to Cleveland a long time ago he still has a good chance to bring a championship there..

Ah, so Jan 2014 is when you started watching basketball?

[Bandito]

Ah, so Jan 2014 is when you started watching basketball?
Yes it was. Get with the times bro. That guy is obviously a random kid under 15...

[sportjames23]

What promise did LBJ fail to deliver on?


"Not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7..."

[Ai2death]

Yes it was. Get with the times bro. That guy is obviously a random kid under 15...

:cheers: Don't worry bro, i know haha :roll:

[Kvnzhangyay]

"Not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7..."

To be fair thats not really a promise, the media just made it seem like it was one. it was more of an "of the moment" statement- similar to how we say some obscene or illogical things when we are "in the moment" at a party.

[Megabox!]

Ah, so Jan 2014 is when you started watching basketball?
What does the date I joined an internet basketball forum have anything to do with what I just said? :facepalm Idiot

[Megabox!]

To be fair thats not really a promise, the media just made it seem like it was one. it was more of an "of the moment" statement- similar to how we say some obscene or illogical things when we are "in the moment" at a party.
This.

[BigTicket]

AD is on the same level that Lebron was in his 3rd year. One of the absolute best players in the league, but no playoff success yet.

[yeaaaman]

When AD is playing in the playoffs, where the game slows down, and garbage points are hard to come by, do you guys think he can still get 20+ points creating shots with his back to the basket in the halfcourt?

I'm not sure why nobody responded to this one, I'm interested to see what people think.

[NZStreetBaller]

AD is good but I feel people are massively overrating him and putting mass hype on him. He is good and showing alot of potential and growth. But as good as lebron?? Come on man. As a kobe stan I dont like propping up lebron. But your comparing some early day potential to a 4time mvp 2 time champion by using a couple of statlines. Just chill with the anothony davis stuff untill we see some consistant mvp level stuff

[iznogood]

I'm not sure why nobody responded to this one, I'm interested to see what people think.
I think he'll still get his points, but I'd expect his efficiency to go down. Is he still mostly facing up and taking jumpers in the half court?

I don't think he's on the LeBron/KD/CP3 level (and I'm not arguing they are on the same level). I also think Blake, Love and Aldridge are all better players at the moment. I also don't think he's an elite defender even though his blocking/stealing numbers are great. Just a couple of months ago he was still being schooled on the post by Gustavo Ayon. I do love his jumper and I think he could be great, I just don't think he is great yet. Also I'd like to see some more African in him. I understand he's still a young player, but I'd like to see some more intensity in terms of the way he acts on the court.

[Lebron23]

Lebron at the same age as AD. 31.4/8/7. He had an amazing playoffs run in 2006.

[ImKobe]

AD is currently putting up the best numbers by any big man since prime Shaq...

He can score down low, he can shoot, he can pass, he can force turnovers, he alters shots, he gets a ton of blocks...this man is doing everything right now and he's only in his 3rd NBA season...now imagine prime AD in a system like the Spurs have....

NO don't deserve him, but low-key Stern made the best move by any FO in recent years. His veto was the reason they were bad enough to get this dude.

[Dro]

When AD is playing in the playoffs, where the game slows down, and garbage points are hard to come by, do you guys think he can still get 20+ points creating shots with his back to the basket in the halfcourt?
No...

[hawksdogsbraves]

When AD is playing in the playoffs, where the game slows down, and garbage points are hard to come by, do you guys think he can still get 20+ points creating shots with his back to the basket in the halfcourt?

Blake Griffin averaged 19ppg last year in the playoffs on 50% shooting, and his offensive game isn't all that much more developed than Davis'. Plus Davis has a better jumper and is much more impactful on the defensive end.

What's going to hold him back in the playoffs is that his 'running mate' Holiday averages 14/7 on 43%fg and is maybe the 20th best PG in the league.

[navy]

No...
20 points is kinda arbitrary.

He can, but his offensive game certainly wont carry a team for 4 rounds yet.

[juju151111]

I hope he makes the playoffs to see what he made of.

[Chrono90]

Lebron is underrated on this board

and i'm a kobe fan.

[oarabbus]

No...


Maybe not. But can he get 16 points, 12 rebounds, a couple steals, and 5 blocks? I think so.

[Joyner82reload]

He won't get the recognition he deserves for sometime because he won't be making the playoffs for the next 2-3 years. That team blows and he isn't a dominant enough scorer to carry them into the playoffs.

[atljonesbro]

Davis is the best player in the league right now. He does it all and very well.

[ArbitraryWater]

Ah, so Jan 2014 is when you started watching basketball?

InsideHoops, where join date equals the time you started watching ball.

[nuraman00]

He won't get the recognition he deserves for sometime because he won't be making the playoffs for the next 2-3 years. That team blows and he isn't a dominant enough scorer to carry them into the playoffs.
They ended up making the playoffs.

[nuraman00]

In terms of big men, I'd say Davis is on Lebron's level. Passing is the only thing he can get a little better at, for a big.