View Full Version : Who's the best player Lebron has beaten in the playoffs
clutchinho
11-12-2014, 08:01 AM
Looking back, it's amazing how little resistance Lebron has faced in the middle of his prime, the best players hes beaten in a series being
24 year old Dwight
Celtics KG
23 year old Durant
35 year old Duncan
Other than Dwight, all of those guys were either past or yet to enter their primes. You can argue that the 2nd and even 3rd options on Lebron's Heat teams would have been the first option on any of those opposition teams.
It's a reflection of the era we are in with stacked superteams and comically imbalanced conferences. Jordan had to go through the 80s Celtics, bad boy Pistons, prime Ewing, 24 year old Shaq, and that was just in his CONFERENCE. Duncan and Kobe had to face each other in their primes, yet the greatest challenge the best player of this era has faced is Dwight Howard.
JebronLames
11-12-2014, 08:16 AM
Carried his team to two championships.
Kobe was never the main reason for winning any of his championships.
2000: shaq + refs
2001: shaq
2002: shaq + refs
2009: their size inside with gasol, odom, Bynum
2010: their size inside with gasol, odom, Bynum
Beastmode88
11-12-2014, 08:25 AM
Carried his team to two championships.
Kobe was never the main reason for winning any of his championships.
2000: shaq + refs
2001: shaq
2002: shaq + refs
2009: their size inside with gasol, odom, Bynum
2010: their size inside with gasol, odom, Bynum
2012: refs
2013: ray allen
Looking back, it's amazing how little resistance Lebron has faced in the middle of his prime, the best players hes beaten in a series being
24 year old Dwight
Celtics KG
23 year old Durant
35 year old Duncan
Other than Dwight, all of those guys were either past or yet to enter their primes. You can argue that the 2nd and even 3rd options on Lebron's Heat teams would have been the first option on any of those opposition teams.
It's a reflection of the era we are in with stacked superteams and comically imbalanced conferences. Jordan had to go through the 80s Celtics, bad boy Pistons, prime Ewing, 24 year old Shaq, and that was just in his CONFERENCE. Duncan and Kobe had to face each other in their primes, yet the greatest challenge the best player of this era has faced is Dwight Howard.Celtics KG team and old Duncan's Spurs still got a ring out of their battle with Bran.
Kaspah
11-12-2014, 08:51 AM
Lebron was this close to being beat by the spurs twice in the finals instead of once
And that was Ray Allen being clutch
Then you think about past champions winning rings and whom their opponents were.
Lebrons resume isn't impressive.
Mr Exlax
11-12-2014, 08:56 AM
The thing that makes LeBron's title runs and all that so impressive is that the only way his teams won was because he had to do everything almost every game.
Kaspah
11-12-2014, 09:00 AM
The thing that makes LeBron's title runs and all that so impressive is that the only way his teams won was because he had to do everything almost every game.
Basketball is a team sport and he left hometown to join a stacked team.
Then, he did everything by himself, still?
Sounds like he's a one dimensional player
aj1987
11-12-2014, 09:05 AM
Basketball is a team sport and he left hometown to join a stacked team.
Then, he did everything by himself, still?
Sounds like he's a one dimensional player
:facepalm
What exactly are you trying to say?
It's Lebron's fault his prime doesnt correlate to the same primes as others players or that his team or other people's teams werent good enough to meet each other in certain years or they never got the opportunity to meet to match your agenda?
Kaspah
11-12-2014, 09:12 AM
What exactly are you trying to say?
It's Lebron's fault his prime doesnt correlate to the same primes as others players or that his team or other people's teams werent good enough to meet each other in certain years or they never got the opportunity to meet to match your agenda?
Despite the circumstances being no ones fault, the message remains: lebron hasn't faced great teams and lebron has team hopped to ring chase and narrowly escaped with two rings during his prime as "the best ball player on the planet".
Compare his rings and paths compared to other champions and he doesn't seem very impressive
Despite the circumstances being no ones fault, the message remains: lebron hasn't faced great teams and lebron has team hopped to ring chase and narrowly escaped with two rings during his prime as "the best ball player on the planet".
Compare his rings and paths compared to other champions and he doesn't seem very impressive
Lebron hasnt faced great teams because you say so? :oldlol:
lol, Lebron put up 30/10/6 on route to his first championship winning MVP and FMVP and put up 26/8/7 on route to repeating the MVP and FMVP. Definitely unimpressive. Get out of here with your bullshit.
Kaspah
11-12-2014, 09:35 AM
Lebron hasnt faced great teams because you say so? :oldlol:
lol, Lebron put up 30/10/6 on route to his first championship winning MVP and FMVP and put up 26/8/7 on route to repeating the MVP and FMVP. Definitely unimpressive. Get out of here with your bullshit.
It's definitely unimpressive when you're playing for your hometown as the best player in the game, choose to leave to join a stacked team, and like I said, narrowly escape with 2 rings over 4 finals appearances. Thunder victory was earned, but Ray Allen bailed him the fck out.
I'm talking about being a champion, not numbers. Lebron has ditched his hometown team to join a stacked team in a weak conference and went 2-4 in finals appearances, which was this close to being 1-4.
He's one dimensional. Not impressive. Can fill a stat sheet. Can't win.
aj1987
11-12-2014, 09:37 AM
It's definitely unimpressive when you're playing for your hometown as the best player in the game, choose to leave to join a stacked team, and like I said, narrowly escape with 2 rings over 4 finals appearances. Thunder victory was earned, but Ray Allen bailed him the fck out.
I'm talking about being a champion, not numbers. Lebron has ditched his hometown team to join a stacked team in a weak conference and went 2-4 in finals appearances, which was this close to being 1-4.
He's one dimensional. Not impressive. Can fill a stat sheet. Can't win.
I'm guessing you don't know what one dimensional and winning mean.
It's definitely unimpressive when you're playing for your hometown as the best player in the game, choose to leave to join a stacked team, and like I said, narrowly escape with 2 rings over 4 finals appearances. Thunder victory was earned, but Ray Allen bailed him the fck out.
I'm talking about being a champion, not numbers. Lebron has ditched his hometown team to join a stacked team in a weak conference and went 2-4 in finals appearances, which was this close to being 1-4.
He's one dimensional. Not impressive. Can fill a stat sheet. Can't win.
Ray Allen bailed them out and then what happened in Game 7? Lebron drops 37/10 seals the game and wins another Finals MVP. I mean how many points did Ray Allen score in Game 7? Hell how many did he score in game 6? What did he average in the series? He hit a big shot? So? Not like he was the only player on the team.
Lebron has multiple 60 win seasons, 2 FMVPS, 4 MVPS, a 27 game win streak on belt and averages 28/7/7 in the regular season, 28/8/6 in the postseason and hasnt even hit 30.
Dude is a stat stuffing non winning loser. :roll:
Kaspah
11-12-2014, 09:43 AM
I'm guessing you don't know what one dimensional and winning mean.
Can fill a stat sheet. Can't win.
Stat sheet filling but doesn't translate to wins- one dimensional, whereas someone with an expanded input on the game finds ways to win.
Can't win, finals appearances 2-5. One Ray Allen 3pt miss away from 1-5.
Durant i think is better than any player Jordan competed against in his Finals.... and certainly better than any perimeter player he competed against throughout the entire 90s....
Kaspah
11-12-2014, 09:46 AM
Ray Allen bailed them out and then what happened in Game 7? Lebron drops 37/10 seals the game and wins another Finals MVP. I mean how many points did Ray Allen score in Game 7? Hell how many did he score in game 6? What did he average in the series? He hit a big shot? So? Not like he was the only player on the team.
Lebron has multiple 60 win seasons, 2 FMVPS, 4 MVPS, a 27 game win streak on belt and averages 28/7/7 in the regular season, 28/8/6 in the postseason and hasnt even hit 30.
Dude is a stat stuffing non winning loser. :roll:
Oh I must've forgot how hardcore the regular season is.
Regular season > playoffs. Got it.
Who cares about game 7 when the only reason they arrive there is because a veteran hits a clutch 3? Weren't we talking about lebron being a champion? Where was he in game 6 then?
r15mohd
11-12-2014, 09:46 AM
Lebron was this close to being beat by the spurs twice in the finals instead of once
close doesn't mean sh*t...please use reality as your stance instead of the daydreams you have
And that was Ray Allen being clutch
Ray Allen has been clutch his entire career and outside of this 1-game...his 3pt arsenal is what got him a spot on the Heat squad. you're whining about him being utilized correctly? :facepalm
what about the 2nd half that Lebron and the Heat put up to even give Ray Allen a sniff at that shot? irrelevant in your mindset, I'm assuming? :facepalm
Then you think about past champions winning rings and whom their opponents were.
Lakers vs Sixers
Lakers vs Nets
Spurs vs Cavs
Spurs vs Knicks
Lebrons resume isn't impressive.
because your biased....there's about 2-handful's of players who wouldn't trade for his resume, and those are the GOAT's 1-9. :rolleyes:
Kaspah
11-12-2014, 09:49 AM
close doesn't mean sh*t...please use reality as your stance instead of the daydreams you have
Ray Allen has been clutch his entire career and outside of this 1-game...his 3pt arsenal is what got him a spot on the Heat squad. you're whining about him being utilized correctly? :facepalm
what about the 2nd half that Lebron and the Heat put up to even give Ray Allen a sniff at that shot? irrelevant in your mindset, I'm assuming? :facepalm
Lakers vs Sixers
Lakers vs Nets
Spurs vs Cavs
Spurs vs Knicks
because your biased....there's about 2-handful's of players who wouldn't trade for his resume, and those are the GOAT's 1-9. :rolleyes:
Who you think I'm comparing him to?
Other goats and champions. Not role players and glue guys.
Lebron23
11-12-2014, 09:51 AM
Just a terrible thread. OP is a douchebag. Lebron also beat Billups, Hamilton, and Wallace in the conference finals. He also beat a solid scoring trio of Jamison, Butler, and Prime Arenas.
r15mohd
11-12-2014, 09:51 AM
Who you think I'm comparing him to?
Other goats and champions. Not role players and glue guys.
so being in the top 10 GOAT isn't impressive to you? :biggums:
also, you mention "where was Lebron in game 6" prior to Allen's shot...I assume you didn't watch the game
Oh I must've forgot how hardcore the regular season is.
Regular season > playoffs. Got it.
Who cares about game 7 when the only reason they arrive there is because a veteran hits a clutch 3? Weren't we talking about lebron being a champion? Where was he in game 6 then?
I mentioned both regualr season and post season accolades.
I must have forgot how hardcore your inability to read was.
How can you talk about only? Who brought them back in Game 6 even giving Ray Allen the chance to hit that 3? Where was Lebron in Game 6? 32/10/10 bringing the Heat back from a 10 point deficit in the quarter. Perhaps you need a reminder. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncVxYAsSAko
aj1987
11-12-2014, 09:54 AM
Can fill a stat sheet. Can't win.
Stat sheet filling but doesn't translate to wins- one dimensional, whereas someone with an expanded input on the game finds ways to win.
Can't win, finals appearances 2-5. One Ray Allen 3pt miss away from 1-5.
:facepalm
Dude is one of the most complete players in the history of the league and you're calling him "one dimensional"? Never lost in the first round. 5 Finals and and 1 ECF. 2 rings. How is that not winning?
4 MVPS, 2 rings, 2 FMVP's, 8x All-NBA First team, and 5x All-Defensive First Team. Career averages of 28/7/7/2/1 on 50%. There are fewer than 8 players with that kind of a resume and the guy is only 30 with another 3-4 years of elite play left.
Stop posting, dude.
Oh I must've forgot how hardcore the regular season is.
Regular season > playoffs. Got it.
Who cares about game 7 when the only reason they arrive there is because a veteran hits a clutch 3? Weren't we talking about lebron being a champion? Where was he in game 6 then?
Better question is where was YOU in Game 6? Did you just leave after Ray Allen hit that 3?
If you stayed you would have seen that 3 only tied the game with a couple of seconds to go... where Tony Parker had all the time in the world to make a gamewinner but got shut down by guess who? No, not Ray Allen......
There was then over-time.... guess who closed out the game? Ray Allen?
THERE was Lebron in Game 6.....
r15mohd
11-12-2014, 09:57 AM
:facepalm
Dude is one of the most complete players in the history of the league and you're calling him "one dimensional"? Never lost in the first round. 5 Finals and and 1 ECF. 2 rings. How is that not winning? Stop posting, dude.
he's still living in hopes and dreams..."One Ray Allen 3pt miss away from 1-5." :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
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edrick
11-12-2014, 09:58 AM
2012: refs
2013: ray allen
I always love it when haters bring up Ray Allen hitting one shot. Like Kobe didn't have Fisher, Horry, etc. hitting big shots or something. People always ignore the fact that Lebron is the only reason they were even in the game. Plus, he hit a 3 before Ray Allen's 3.
Kaspah
11-12-2014, 09:59 AM
I can't get over the best ball player in the league, leaving his hometown team to join a stacked team in order to ring chase. Had he never left Cleveland, with or without rings, he'd hold much more prestige and respect from a fan of the game like myself.
If y'all can get behind that and root for that man, then you're no real man in my eyes.
On top of all that cowardice, he has 2-5 to show for it.
I can't get with it, dude ain't a champion.
aj1987
11-12-2014, 10:00 AM
he's still living in hopes and dreams..."One Ray Allen 3pt miss away from 1-5." :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/wiredscience/2014/01/Reality-blur-1-small.png
Even if he was 1-5, how does that equate to not winning. Hakeem is considered to be a top 10 player by most and he has only 2 rings. Bird is ranked in the top 5 and he has only 3 rings (only 1 more than LeBron with the same FMVP's and one less MVP). I don't see people calling them losers.
I can't get over the best ball player in the league, leaving his hometown team to join a stacked team in order to ring chase. Had he never left Cleveland, with or without rings, he'd hold much more prestige and respect from a fan of the game like myself.
If y'all can get behind that and root for that man, then you're no real man in my eyes.
On top of all that cowardice, he has 2-5 to show for it.
I can't get with it, dude ain't a champion.
What a ****ing dumbass. :oldlol:
Do you even think before posting?
Beastmode88
11-12-2014, 10:01 AM
Durant i think is better than any player Jordan competed against in his Finals.... and certainly better than any perimeter player he competed against throughout the entire 90s....
Thunder were babies. Westbrook had one of these worst performances in nba finals history and harden was just flat out garbage cause he did not show up in the finals
Lebron23
11-12-2014, 10:02 AM
He also beat a Prime Rose, Boozer, and Noah.
Beastmode88
11-12-2014, 10:04 AM
I always love it when haters bring up Ray Allen hitting one shot. Like Kobe didn't have Fisher, Horry, etc. hitting big shots or something. People always ignore the fact that Lebron is the only reason they were even in the game. Plus, he hit a 3 before Ray Allen's 3.
Everyone needs a bit of help but jebronlames said lebron "carried" the heat to the championship. Which is absolutely ridiculous. Missing 2 3s in the final minute before bosh rebound -> pass to ray allen. Arguably the greatest shot in nba finals history is not a bail out? :facepalm
r15mohd
11-12-2014, 10:05 AM
I can't get over the best ball player in the league, leaving his hometown team to join a stacked team in order to ring chase. Had he never left Cleveland, with or without rings, he'd hold much more prestige and respect from a fan of the game like myself.
If y'all can get behind that and root for that man, then you're no real man in my eyes.
On top of all that cowardice, he has 2-5 to show for it.
I can't get with it, dude ain't a champion.
do you say the same about Karl Malone, CB4, Pippen to the Blazers/Rockets, Shaq to the Heat, Clyde to the Rockets, etc? highly doubt it...and again stop whining about this hometown b/s, that is so rare, it is unremarkable no comparable to anything :facepalm
I wonder if you would remain in your hometown if you saw there was no way you'd succeed with that mgmt? if so, you're the coward in taking no risk to success of your future
r15mohd
11-12-2014, 10:06 AM
Everyone needs a bit of help but jebronlames said lebron "carried" the heat to the championship. Which is absolutely ridiculous. Missing 2 3s in the final minute before bosh rebound -> pass to ray allen. Arguably the greatest shot in nba finals history is not a bail out? :facepalm
didn't he also make a three just before that? nice agenda tho :rolleyes:
Lebron23
11-12-2014, 10:07 AM
Thunder were babies. Westbrook had one of these worst performances in nba finals history and harden was just flat out garbage cause he did not show up in the finals
What are you smoking?? they beat the Lakers, the mavericks and a veteran spurs team in the NBA Finals. Stop hating on Lebron. He's the GOAT small forward after this season.
Asukal
11-12-2014, 10:07 AM
Durant i think is better than any player Jordan competed against in his Finals.... and certainly better than any perimeter player he competed against throughout the entire 90s....
If you have time to post you have time to finish them videos. Where they at pauk? :rolleyes:
r15mohd
11-12-2014, 10:08 AM
Thunder were babies. Westbrook had one of these worst performances in nba finals history and harden was just flat out garbage cause he did not show up in the finals
did you say this about Lebron when he faced the Spurs while on the Cavs? :rolleyes: 3-4 yrs in the league, same as KD, and KD had two star to all-star players alongside him
r15mohd
11-12-2014, 10:09 AM
He also beat a Prime Rose, Boozer, and Noah.
MVP Rose at that
Kaspah
11-12-2014, 10:13 AM
do you say the same about Karl Malone, CB4, Pippen to the Blazers/Rockets, Shaq to the Heat, Clyde to the Rockets, etc? highly doubt it...and again stop whining about this hometown b/s, that is so rare, it is unremarkable no comparable to anything :facepalm
I wonder if you would remain in your hometown if you saw there was no way you'd succeed with that mgmt? if so, you're the coward in taking no risk to success of your future
In the nba, if you leave your team as the best player in the league, you're weak.
When you're great, you have other players come join you. You as the great, ain't supposed to leave bumming other guys to get rings.
clutchinho
11-12-2014, 10:14 AM
Just a terrible thread. OP is a douchebag. Lebron also beat Billups, Hamilton, and Wallace in the conference finals. He also beat a solid scoring trio of Jamison, Butler, and Prime Arenas.
You have 45k posts, all of which are about Lebron, and you still don't know that
- The Pistons team that Lebron's Cavs beat was far past their best, with Ben Wallace already in Chicago. beating your chest over this like beating the Celtics after Bird retired
- Lebron never faced a full strength Wizards team in the playoffs (which peaked at 43 wins anyway), since Arenas got hurt in 06/07 and was never the same again, he didn't play at all in the 07 series against the Cavs and was a shell of his former self in the 08 series (8 games played for the entire season)
Lebron23
11-12-2014, 10:15 AM
The 2012 Thunder's team was the best Thunder team of all time. Harden killed the Spurs in the conference finals. OKC were also a young team and the lockout season also benefited them.
Won NBA Western Conference Finals (2-4) versus San Antonio Spurs (Series Stats) (50-16)
Won NBA Western Conference Semifinals (1-4) versus Los Angeles Lakers (Series Stats) (41-25)
Won NBA Western Conference First Round (0-4) versus Dallas Mavericks (Series Stats) (36-30)
Durant i think is better than any player Jordan competed against in his Finals.... and certainly better than any perimeter player he competed against throughout the entire 90s....
So you consider KD at the age of 23 already better than Magic Johnson or Karl Malone?
Lebron23
11-12-2014, 10:24 AM
You have 45k posts, all of which are about Lebron, and you still don't know that
- The Pistons team that Lebron's Cavs beat was far past their best, with Ben Wallace already in Chicago. beating your chest over this like beating the Celtics after Bird retired
- Lebron never faced a full strength Wizards team in the playoffs (which peaked at 43 wins anyway), since Arenas got hurt in 06/07 and was never the same again, he didn't play at all in the 07 series against the Cavs and was a shell of his former self in the 08 series (8 games played for the entire season)
You are a $hitty poster. The Pistons still made it into the conference finals in 2008 and the won 2 games against the 2008 Celtics while the same celtics team destroyed the lakers in the nba finals.
r15mohd
11-12-2014, 10:26 AM
In the nba, if you leave your team as the best player in the league, you're weak.
When you're great, you have other players come join you. You as the great, ain't supposed to leave bumming other guys to get rings.
lol...so delusional but whatever helps you drive your agenda :rolleyes:
Bigsmoke
11-12-2014, 10:27 AM
Ray Allen made that 3 to send the game into overtime who guided the Heat to the win in that overtime session :biggums:
better yet, who led the Heat to that game 7 win :biggums:
Who was the Finals MVP :biggums:
haters can do whatever to sugarcoat the outcome but history is carved in stone and you can't change that.
ninephive
11-12-2014, 10:31 AM
Lebron was this close to being beat by the spurs twice in the finals instead of once
And that was Ray Allen being clutch
Then you think about past champions winning rings and whom their opponents were.
Lebrons resume isn't impressive.
Lebron was beat twice by the Spurs in the Finals...almost three times.
Lebron23
11-12-2014, 10:36 AM
Ray Allen made that 3 to send the game into overtime who guided the Heat to the win in that overtime session :biggums:
better yet, who led the Heat to that game 7 win :biggums:
Who was the Finals MVP :biggums:
haters can do whatever to sugarcoat the outcome but history is carved in stone and you can't change that.
http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/NPtSojoUXdQzzidIoxsoSw--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTUwMA--/http://l.yimg.com/os/publish-images/sports/2013-06-23/44b3e51d-d59d-4336-9f24-dbc3f3a0f9b4_LeBron_webgame7.gif
Could, Woulda, Shoulda
clutchinho
11-12-2014, 10:37 AM
Durant i think is better than any player Jordan competed against in his Finals.... and certainly better than any perimeter player he competed against throughout the entire 90s....
Jordan won all his finals matchups tho... kawhn't say the same about Lebron :lol :lol
Bigsmoke
11-12-2014, 10:39 AM
You have 45k posts, all of which are about Lebron, and you still don't know that
- The Pistons team that Lebron's Cavs beat was far past their best, with Ben Wallace already in Chicago. beating your chest over this like beating the Celtics after Bird retired
- Lebron never faced a full strength Wizards team in the playoffs (which peaked at 43 wins anyway), since Arenas got hurt in 06/07 and was never the same again, he didn't play at all in the 07 series against the Cavs and was a shell of his former self in the 08 series (8 games played for the entire season)
http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/DET/2007.html
their best 4 playeres were still as good as they were in the year they won the championship in 2004. Rasheed migh declined a bit but Billups and Tayshawn enhanced their games since then. Rip was still in his 20's
lilteapot
11-12-2014, 10:40 AM
It's definitely unimpressive when you're playing for your hometown as the best player in the game, choose to leave to join a stacked team, and like I said, narrowly escape with 2 rings over 4 finals appearances. Thunder victory was earned, but Ray Allen bailed him the fck out.
I'm talking about being a champion, not numbers. Lebron has ditched his hometown team to join a stacked team in a weak conference and went 2-4 in finals appearances, which was this close to being 1-4.
He's one dimensional. Not impressive. Can fill a stat sheet. Can't win.
I'm pretty sure his resume isn't going to say: 2013 champion but not really because Ray Allen bailed him out
****ing clown lmao
clutchinho
11-12-2014, 10:42 AM
You are a $hitty poster. The Pistons still made it into the conference finals in 2008 and the won 2 games against the 2008 Celtics while the same celtics team destroyed the lakers in the nba finals.
I'm a $hitty poster with 300 posts, you're a even $hittier poster with 45,000 posts. clearly one of us has learning difficulties :lol
Bigsmoke
11-12-2014, 10:45 AM
Jordan won all his finals matchups tho... kawhn't say the same about Lebron :lol :lol
Jordan is the greatest of all time. :confusedshrug:
using Jordan as a measuring stick to compare greatness is pretty stupid. West won 1 out of 9 Finals appearances and still a top 20 player, legendary, logo, HOFer, ect.
Nashty
11-12-2014, 10:45 AM
MVP Rose
1st Team All NBA Duncan
1st Team All NBA Durant
2nd Team All NBA Westbrook
2nd Team All NBA Parker
3rd Team All NBA Carmelo
Lebron23
11-12-2014, 10:47 AM
I'm a $hitty poster with 300 posts, you're a even $hittier poster with 45,000 posts. clearly one of us has learning difficulties :lol
Cause Jeff banned your primary account. You Stupid troll. I just reported this thread.
Lebron23
11-12-2014, 10:49 AM
MVP Rose
1st Team All NBA Duncan
1st Team All NBA Durant
2nd Team All NBA Westbrook
2nd Team All NBA Parker
3rd Team All NBA Carmelo
Great Lists.
clutchinho
11-12-2014, 11:01 AM
Cause Jeff banned your primary account. You Stupid troll. I just reported this thread.
Good work reporting a thread where you've made 3 completely unprovoked personal attacks on me, snitch
Enjoy the ban, I'm sure it'll affect you more than it does me :applause:
Papaya Petee
11-12-2014, 11:03 AM
You are a $hitty poster. The Pistons still made it into the conference finals in 2008 and the won 2 games against the 2008 Celtics while the same celtics team destroyed the lakers in the nba finals.
You have ZERO right to call anybody a shitty poster.
45,000 Posts all sucking LeBrons dick. Hopping the bandwagon like crazy. Every year making the wrong prediction since like 2007 that LeBron will sweep FMVP, MVP and win a ring. EVERY YEAR aside from 2 you were wrong.
You have HORRIBLE English skills, you type like a robot, and you never bring anything to a conversation. All you do is curse at and try to disrespect all the posters (that are much more knowledgeable than you) if god forbid they give LeBron the slightest criticism.
The reality of the situation is this, you have a sickening obsession with one player, you probably jerk off to his YouTube highlights, and you bring absolutely NOTHING to basketball discussions. You have no right to call ANYONE a shitty poster. Kenneth and even JT who are horrible trolls are 50 times more knowledgeable than you. At least they can put a paragraph together of some basketball facts that won't make my eyes bleed.
Lebron23
11-12-2014, 11:11 AM
You have ZERO right to call anybody a shitty poster.
45,000 Posts all sucking LeBrons dick. Hopping the bandwagon like crazy. Every year making the wrong prediction since like 2007 that LeBron will sweep FMVP, MVP and win a ring. EVERY YEAR aside from 2 you were wrong.
You have HORRIBLE English skills, you type like a robot, and you never bring anything to a conversation. All you do is curse at and try to disrespect all the posters (that are much more knowledgeable than you) if god forbid they give LeBron the slightest criticism.
The reality of the situation is this, you have a sickening obsession with one player, you probably jerk off to his YouTube highlights, and you bring absolutely NOTHING to basketball discussions. You have no right to call ANYONE a shitty poster. Kenneth and even JT who are horrible trolls are 50 times more knowledgeable than you. At least they can put a paragraph together of some basketball facts that won't make my eyes bleed.
STFU clown. I am not even attacking and blaming Wade. Even though he struggled and sucked in the NBA Finals last year. And he's still sucking this season. A 38-40 yrs.old Jordan is a more productive player than him.
Go F*ck yourself F@t boy. I'll kick your @$$ in real life, and shove Wade's dick inside your anus.
Bigsmoke
11-12-2014, 11:14 AM
You have ZERO right to call anybody a shitty poster.
45,000 Posts all sucking LeBrons dick. Hopping the bandwagon like crazy. Every year making the wrong prediction since like 2007 that LeBron will sweep FMVP, MVP and win a ring. EVERY YEAR aside from 2 you were wrong.
You have HORRIBLE English skills, you type like a robot, and you never bring anything to a conversation. All you do is curse at and try to disrespect all the posters (that are much more knowledgeable than you) if god forbid they give LeBron the slightest criticism.
The reality of the situation is this, you have a sickening obsession with one player, you probably jerk off to his YouTube highlights, and you bring absolutely NOTHING to basketball discussions. You have no right to call ANYONE a shitty poster. Kenneth and even JT who are horrible trolls are 50 times more knowledgeable than you. At least they can put a paragraph together of some basketball facts that won't make my eyes bleed.
LeBron23 is my guy but this got me chuckling a bit. lol
Papaya Petee
11-12-2014, 11:16 AM
STFU clown. I am not even attacking and blaming Wade. Even though he struggled and sucked in the NBA Finals last year. And he's still sucking this season. A 38-40 yrs.old Jordan is a more productive player than him.
Go F*ck yourself F@t boy. I'll kick your @$$ in real life, and shove Wade's dick inside your anus.
Look at my point, somebody calls you out, and you refer to BAD English and cursing people out.
Telling someone you're going to fight them over an internet forum? Fighting someone in real life? :roll: You need to open a dictionary.
Lebron23
11-12-2014, 11:17 AM
Good work reporting a thread where you've made 3 completely unprovoked personal attacks on me, snitch
Enjoy the ban, I'm sure it'll affect you more than it does me :applause:
LMAO at this stupid chinese. Open your eyes douchebag. You are a terrible troll, and you are just jealous cause Lebron will surpass Kobe in numbers of finals MVP before he retires in the NBA.
StephHamann
11-12-2014, 11:27 AM
You have ZERO right to call anybody a shitty poster.
45,000 Posts all sucking LeBrons dick. Hopping the bandwagon like crazy. Every year making the wrong prediction since like 2007 that LeBron will sweep FMVP, MVP and win a ring. EVERY YEAR aside from 2 you were wrong.
You have HORRIBLE English skills, you type like a robot, and you never bring anything to a conversation. All you do is curse at and try to disrespect all the posters (that are much more knowledgeable than you) if god forbid they give LeBron the slightest criticism.
The reality of the situation is this, you have a sickening obsession with one player, you probably jerk off to his YouTube highlights, and you bring absolutely NOTHING to basketball discussions. You have no right to call ANYONE a shitty poster. Kenneth and even JT who are horrible trolls are 50 times more knowledgeable than you. At least they can put a paragraph together of some basketball facts that won't make my eyes bleed.
http://i.imgur.com/QdiROo1.png
StephHamann
11-12-2014, 11:34 AM
Nice pictures of your mother
Lebron23
11-12-2014, 11:37 AM
Nice pictures of your mother
She just looks like you.
clutchinho
11-12-2014, 11:38 AM
LMAO at this stupid chinese. Open your eyes douchebag. You are a terrible troll, and you are just jealous cause Lebron will surpass Kobe in numbers of finals MVP before he retires in the NBA.
Why would Lebron surpassing Kobe in finals mvps have me jealous ? It has nothing to do with me since I don't live through any athlete like you do you 5'6 mental midget.
clutchinho
11-12-2014, 11:40 AM
http://i.imgur.com/QdiROo1.png
I dispute this, can a robotic typing program really be said to have been alive at any stage ?
Lebron23
11-12-2014, 11:41 AM
Why would Lebron surpassing Kobe in finals mvps have me jealous ? It has nothing to do with me since I don't live through any athlete like you do you 5'6 mental midget.
Why did you created this thread?? Lebron is living rent free inside your head. LMAO at 5'6". Pacquiao was measured at 5'6" and I am taller than that guy.
G0ATbe
11-12-2014, 11:50 AM
You have ZERO right to call anybody a shitty poster.
45,000 Posts all sucking LeBrons dick. Hopping the bandwagon like crazy. Every year making the wrong prediction since like 2007 that LeBron will sweep FMVP, MVP and win a ring. EVERY YEAR aside from 2 you were wrong.
You have HORRIBLE English skills, you type like a robot, and you never bring anything to a conversation. All you do is curse at and try to disrespect all the posters (that are much more knowledgeable than you) if god forbid they give LeBron the slightest criticism.
The reality of the situation is this, you have a sickening obsession with one player, you probably jerk off to his YouTube highlights, and you bring absolutely NOTHING to basketball discussions. You have no right to call ANYONE a shitty poster. Kenneth and even JT who are horrible trolls are 50 times more knowledgeable than you. At least they can put a paragraph together of some basketball facts that won't make my eyes bleed.
:lebronamazed:
Mr. Jabbar
11-12-2014, 11:51 AM
32 year old dirk nowitzki, oh wait
:biggums:
Hey Yo
11-12-2014, 11:51 AM
Thunder were babies. Westbrook had one of these worst performances in nba finals history and harden was just flat out garbage cause he did not show up in the finals
Thunder were the favorites before game 1 Finals tip off.
Lebron23
11-12-2014, 11:54 AM
Look at my point, somebody calls you out, and you refer to BAD English and cursing people out.
Telling someone you're going to fight them over an internet forum? Fighting someone in real life? :roll: You need to open a dictionary.
You just attacked me from out of nowhere. I am just defending my boy Lebron. You never saw me attacked Wade in the Miami Heat Game Thread. I never even blamed Wade in the 2014 NBA Finals Game threads. Even thought i losses some money by betting on the Heat.
Mr. Jabbar
11-12-2014, 11:59 AM
bran23 @ home enjoying some lebron stats
http://s21.postimg.org/8wke98513/bran23.png
Hey Yo
11-12-2014, 12:02 PM
Looking back, it's amazing how little resistance Lebron has faced in the middle of his prime, the best players hes beaten in a series being
24 year old Dwight
Celtics KG
23 year old Durant
35 year old Duncan
Other than Dwight, all of those guys were either past or yet to enter their primes. You can argue that the 2nd and even 3rd options on Lebron's Heat teams would have been the first option on any of those opposition teams.
It's a reflection of the era we are in with stacked superteams and comically imbalanced conferences. Jordan had to go through the 80s Celtics, bad boy Pistons, prime Ewing, 24 year old Shaq, and that was just in his CONFERENCE. Duncan and Kobe had to face each other in their primes, yet the greatest challenge the best player of this era has faced is Dwight Howard.
Jordan's Bulls never beat an 80's Celtics team in the playoffs.
stephanieg
11-12-2014, 12:13 PM
LeBron never beat Dwight in the playoffs.
aj1987
11-12-2014, 12:34 PM
STFU clown. I am not even attacking and blaming Wade. Even though he struggled and sucked in the NBA Finals last year. And he's still sucking this season. A 38-40 yrs.old Jordan is a more productive player than him.
Wade has been better than LeBron this year on both sides of the court.
Beastmode88
11-12-2014, 12:37 PM
You have ZERO right to call anybody a shitty poster.
45,000 Posts all sucking LeBrons dick. Hopping the bandwagon like crazy. Every year making the wrong prediction since like 2007 that LeBron will sweep FMVP, MVP and win a ring. EVERY YEAR aside from 2 you were wrong.
You have HORRIBLE English skills, you type like a robot, and you never bring anything to a conversation. All you do is curse at and try to disrespect all the posters (that are much more knowledgeable than you) if god forbid they give LeBron the slightest criticism.
The reality of the situation is this, you have a sickening obsession with one player, you probably jerk off to his YouTube highlights, and you bring absolutely NOTHING to basketball discussions. You have no right to call ANYONE a shitty poster. Kenneth and even JT who are horrible trolls are 50 times more knowledgeable than you. At least they can put a paragraph together of some basketball facts that won't make my eyes bleed.
Destroyed.
Lebron23
11-12-2014, 12:42 PM
Wade has been better than LeBron this year on both sides of the court.
It's a flame bait posts. I don't understand why Mr. USAF just attacked me in this thread.
Bigsmoke
11-12-2014, 12:45 PM
32 year old dirk nowitzki, oh wait
:biggums:
Kobe should have showed LeBron how to get it done http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w364/MATW88/5I5s8_zps413ca3ea.png (http://s1072.photobucket.com/user/MATW88/media/5I5s8_zps413ca3ea.png.html)
Lebron23
11-12-2014, 12:46 PM
clutchinho is ripthekik.
jayfan
11-12-2014, 01:07 PM
Beating the Pistons in '07 was his most impressive playoff accomplishment.
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Rose'sACL
11-12-2014, 01:09 PM
Jordan won all his finals matchups tho... kawhn't say the same about Lebron :lol :lol
lebron won that matchup easily. people like you might make spurs lose kawhi if he buys in to the "kawhi won his matchup against lebron" bs and asks for too much money.
He seems like he doesn't buy into that bs which is good for both him and the spurs.
Beastmode88
11-12-2014, 01:14 PM
lebron won that matchup easily. people like you might make spurs lose kawhi if he buys in to the "kawhi won his matchup against lebron" bs and asks for too much money.
He seems like he doesn't buy into that bs which is good for both him and the spurs.
Someone explain the match up in 2011.
hiphopfan777
11-12-2014, 02:23 PM
2012: refs
2013: ray allen
Without l ebrons 16 points in 4th that ray allen three doesnt matter
hiphopfan777
11-12-2014, 02:25 PM
It's definitely unimpressive when you're playing for your hometown as the best player in the game, choose to leave to join a stacked team, and like I said, narrowly escape with 2 rings over 4 finals appearances. Thunder victory was earned, but Ray Allen bailed him the fck out.
I'm talking about being a champion, not numbers. Lebron has ditched his hometown team to join a stacked team in a weak conference and went 2-4 in finals appearances, which was this close to being 1-4.
He's one dimensional. Not impressive. Can fill a stat sheet. Can't win.without l ebrons 16 points that ray allen three doesn't matter. At you blind or something
SouBeachTalents
11-12-2014, 02:42 PM
Just from his stint on the Heat
Garnett, Pierce, Allen, Rondo 2x
Rose
Carmelo
Durant, Westbrook, Harden, Ibaka
Duncan, Parker, Ginobili
r15mohd
11-12-2014, 02:48 PM
Just from his stint on the Heat
Garnett, Pierce, Allen, Rondo 2x
Rose
Carmelo
Durant, Westbrook, Harden, Ibaka
Duncan, Parker, Ginobili
peak Pacers team with Hibbert PG and West too
JT123
11-12-2014, 02:59 PM
Why is everyone picking on Lebron23. He's a nice guy and typically only engages in mature conversations. He only started insulting people after being provoked.
RoundMoundOfReb
11-12-2014, 03:00 PM
Russell Westbrook
Mass Debator
11-12-2014, 03:05 PM
He beat himself in 2011? :confusedshrug:
IncarceratedBob
11-12-2014, 03:07 PM
cool concept.. what's kobes list and how does it compare to lebron?
i know kobe has kg, duncan, jkidd on his kill list
Beastmode88
11-12-2014, 03:29 PM
Without l ebrons 16 points in 4th that ray allen three doesnt matter
Yeah and lebrons 8 points in 2011 didnt matter right?
Im Still Ballin
11-12-2014, 03:31 PM
Get off the computer beastmode you ****ing nerd.
LMAO!!! ****ing loser
SamuraiSWISH
11-12-2014, 03:34 PM
Jordan's Bulls never beat an 80's Celtics team in the playoffs.
No but he led the Bulls past multiple 60+ win teams:
'93 Knicks
'93 Suns
'96 Magic
'96 Sonics
'97 Heat
'97 Jazz
'98 Jazz
Im Still Ballin
11-12-2014, 03:35 PM
No but he led the Bulls past multiple 60+ win teams:
'93 Knicks
'93 Suns
'96 Magic
'96 Sonics
'97 Heat
'97 Jazz
'98 Jazz
90's were the most watered down era. Suck it up, bitch boy.
Beastmode88
11-12-2014, 05:54 PM
Get off the computer beastmode you ****ing nerd.
LMAO!!! ****ing loser
Posting from my phone sorry. No come back so you start with the verbal insults. very Lebron23 of you.
Prometheus
11-12-2014, 06:04 PM
Now that I've been on ISH for almost a year, I'm feeling more mature. In the past, I would have argued here. Now I'm just going to sigh and move on with life.
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