Kobe is in great company with the record for most misses

[STATUTORY]

Other Interesting Sports Records:
Nolan Ryan (Baseball, Hall of Fame Pitcher)
Most Walks in career - 2743

Reggie Jackson (Baseball, Hall of Fame Outfielder)
Most Strikeouts in career - 2597

Cy Young (Baseball, Hall of Fame Pitcher)
Most Losses in career - 316

Pete Rose (Baseball, Degenerate Gambler)
Most Outs in career - 10328

Rickey Henderson (Baseball, Hall of Fame Outfielder)
Most Times Caught Stealing - 335

Brett Favre (Football, future Hall of Fame Quarterback)
Most Fumbles in career - 166
Most Interceptions career - 336

Martin Brodeur (Hockey, future Hall of Fame goalie)
Most Losses in career - 394

Dan Reeves (Football Coach, two-time Super Bowl Champion)
Most Coaching Losses in Career - 165

the audacity to act :applause: :applause:

[Budadiiii]

Reggie Jackson is the only basketball player on this list dude.

:facepalm

[lilteapot]

Why are you feeling the need to defend his rep?

[DonDadda59]

All hail the Lord of the Brick :bowdown:

[kurple]

Reggie Jackson is the only basketball player on this list dude.

:facepalm
:coleman:

[sdot_thadon]

Reggie Jackson is the only basketball player on this list dude.

:facepalm
:facepalm

[stalkerforlife]

the audacity to act :applause: :applause:

That's actually kind of brilliant.

Is that famous quote?

[kennethgriffin]

Nolan Ryan - arguably the GOAT pitcher

Reggie Jackson - mr october

Cy Young - arguably the GOAT pitcher with Ryan

Pete Rose - arguably the GOAT hitter

Rickey Henderson - top 10 player ever

Brett Favre - top 5 QB of all time

Martin Brodeur - arguably the GOAT goalie with patrick roy

[oarabbus]

Nolan Ryan - arguably the GOAT pitcher

Reggie Jackson - mr october

Cy Young - arguably the GOAT pitcher with Ryan

Pete Rose - arguably the GOAT hitter

Rickey Henderson - top 10 player ever

Brett Favre - top 5 QB of all time

Martin Brodeur - arguably the GOAT goalie with patrick roy

Kobe - Fringe top 10 GOAT, quite likely 11-13 range

[Cold soul]

Kobe - Fringe top 10 GOAT, quite likely 11-13 range

Nah, not at all. Nice try though. :no:

[SamuraiSWISH]

Brett Favre - top 5 QB of all time
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[SouBeachTalents]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Lol, which 5 would you put ahead of him?

[Cold soul]

Nolan Ryan - arguably the GOAT pitcher

Reggie Jackson - mr october

Cy Young - arguably the GOAT pitcher with Ryan

Pete Rose - arguably the GOAT hitter

Rickey Henderson - top 10 player ever

Brett Favre - top 5 QB of all time

Martin Brodeur - arguably the GOAT goalie with patrick roy

Fave is overrated and over hyped more like top 6-8 QB of all-time.

[KyleKong]

Fave is overrated and over hyped more like top 6-8 QB of all-time.
:biggums:

You misspelled Montana

[RRR3]

Nolan Ryan - arguably the GOAT pitcher not even close. Walter Johnson, Randy Johnson, Sandy Koufax, Bob Gibson, Steve Carlton, Christy Matthewson, Cy Young, Roger Clemens, Greg Maddux, Warren Spahn, amongst others, are all clearly better. Satchel Paige too if he had been able to play in MLB more.

Reggie Jackson - mr october Great player, but there were many better.

Cy Young - arguably the GOAT pitcher with Ryan wins and losses are a bad way to measure pitchers anyway, especially without context.

Pete Rose - arguably the GOAT hitter Are you serious? He's not touching Ruth, Bonds, Ted Williams, Cobb, Hornsby, Mays, Aaron, Gehrig, Musial, DiMaggio, Joe Jackson, Mantle, Foxx, and many many more.

Rickey Henderson - top 10 player ever Not even a top 10 outfielder. Ruth Bonds Williams Aaron Mays Cobb Mantle Clemente F. Robinson Musial DiMaggio etc.

Brett Favre - top 5 QB of all time

Martin Brodeur - arguably the GOAT goalie with patrick roy
Don't talk about baseball if you know nothing about it.

[SouBeachTalents]

:biggums:

You misspelled Montana

:biggums:

[r15mohd]

Nolan Ryan - arguably the GOAT pitcher

no he isn't arguably when he isn't even in the top 5, 10, or top 15, you can argue for top 20 though

link: http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/44825/the-greatest-pitcher-of-all-time


Reggie Jackson - mr october

Not even in the top 50 MLB players of all-time


Cy Young - arguably the GOAT pitcher with Ryan

he's not the GOAT pitcher either...Grove, Koufax, Clemens, Mathewson, W. Johnson are all better pitchers


Pete Rose - arguably the GOAT hitter

smh :facepalm

Ted Williams, Ty Cobb, Roger Hornsby, Shoeless Jackson, Honus Wagner, etc. are all better hitters


Rickey Henderson - top 10 player ever

:wtf: :wtf: :wtf:

you can't be serious


Brett Favre - top 5 QB of all time

Montana, Elway, Brady, Marino, Unitas, Graham...he's struggling to stay in the top 10, if that!


Martin Brodeur - arguably the GOAT goalie with patrick roy

this is where you have some stance...Brodeur is a top 3, Roy is undoubtedly the best goalie.


nice try Kenneth! :rolleyes:

[SouBeachTalents]

Montana, Elway, Brady, Marino, Unitas, Graham...he's struggling to stay in the top 10, if that!


Favre is better than Elway in nearly every conceivable statistical category

Better TD:INT ratio
Higher QB rating
Better completion percentage
Higher yards per game average

Elway doesn't even have a career QB rating of 80

[Cold soul]

:biggums:

You misspelled Montana

How is Montana rated that low to you?

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

damn yall nikkas watch baseball dont ya got something better to do?:biggums: :biggums:

[oarabbus]

:biggums:


Montana is GOAT

[SouBeachTalents]

Montana is GOAT

My thoughts exactly. Brady and Manning gave him a serious run for his money, but dude was like Jordan in the Super Bowl, 4-0, 3 SB MVP's, 100 QB rating in every game, ZERO picks in all 4 games

[SamuraiSWISH]

Lol, which 5 would you put ahead of him?
Just that I've seen ... so like no QBs pre mid 80s. No Bradshaws, Unitas, etc.

1) Montana
2) Elway
3) Marino
4) Manning
5) Brady
6) Favre

with Aaron Rogers already biting at his heels.

[SouBeachTalents]

Just that I've seen ...

1) Montana
2) Elway
3) Marino
4) Manning
5) Brady
6) Favre

with Aaron Rogers already biting at his heels.

You're obviously entitled to your opinion, but as I stated above, besides rings, Elway has NO conceivable argument over Favre as being a better QB

[SamuraiSWISH]

You're obviously entitled to your opinion, but as I stated above, besides rings, Elway has NO conceivable argument over Favre as being a better QB
I actually think on an individual level, he was a better QB.

Favre's talent, and creativity was more fun to watch. But much like Kobe, he's a maverick. And will make some of the most bone headed plays imaginable because of over confidence in their abilities. As a QB, you can't have that ... you need to be level headed.

Elway won his rings once he was on the down side of his career, when he had a quality defense, along with an amazing running game with Terrell Davis (****ing migraines)

What do you think of the rest of the list? IMO Aaron Rogers is a better QB than Favre ever was, already.

[SouBeachTalents]

I actually think on an individual level, he was a better QB.

Favre's talent, and creativity was more fun to watch. But much like Kobe, he's a maverick. And will make some of the most bone headed plays imaginable because of over confidence in their abilities. As a QB, you can't have that ... you need to be level headed.

Elway won his rings once he was on the down side of his career, when he had a quality defense, along with an amazing running game with Terrell Davis (****ing migraines)

What do you think of the rest of the list? IMO Aaron Rogers is a better QB than Favre ever was, already.

My top 5 would go

1. Montana
2. Brady
3. Manning
4. Unitas
5. Favre

Favre/Marino is extremely close for that fifth spot, so I'd have no problem with someone putting Marino in that spot over Favre. As for Rodgers, you'd have to be insane to deny the dudes talent, he's an AMAZING QB. Unfortunately though, with the NFL rule changes the last couple of years, where it's now commonplace to throw for 5,000 yards and 40 TD's a year, it's very difficult for me to take any QB or WR numbers these days too seriously. Goodell's rules have made this NFL era almost the equivalent to the steroid era of baseball

[SamuraiSWISH]

it's very difficult for me to take any QB or WR numbers these days too seriously. Goodell's rules have made this NFL era almost the equivalent to the steroid era of baseball
And post 2005 NBA perimeter players stats.

Agreed. That's why we see shrimps who can't be touched like Drew Brees throwing or putting up the numbers he does. A little over half a decade ago he'd be getting pounded into the dirt, and would be thinking twice everytime he does a deep drop back in the pocket.

[ImKobe]

And post 2005 NBA perimeter players stats.

Agreed. That's why we see shrimps who can't be touched like Drew Brees throwing or putting up the numbers he does. A little over half a decade ago he'd be getting pounded into the dirt, and would be thinking twice everytime he does a deep drop back in the pocket.

How dare you disrespect Breezus

[SamuraiSWISH]

How dare you disrespect Breezus
Product of the streamline, casual / Fantasy fan grab rules of the current NFL.

Breeze is Doug Flutie without havving to worry about getting hit.

[r15mohd]

Favre is better than Elway in nearly every conceivable statistical category

Better TD:INT ratio
Higher QB rating
Better completion percentage
Higher yards per game average

Elway doesn't even have a career QB rating of 80


just like Manning not being in the top 3-5 because he chokes in the playoffs, even though he has the best stats to support him there, Favres is rated lower because of his bad decision making at times.

[Heavincent]

:biggums:

Don't mind him. He's a Peyton Manning dick rider.

Montana's post season resume SHITS on Peyton's. I'm not just talking about wins, I'm talking about performance. Peyton shits the bed literally every year in the playoffs, while Montana was at his absolute best in the playoffs.

[tmacattack33]

Nolan Ryan - arguably the GOAT pitcher

Reggie Jackson - mr october

Cy Young - arguably the GOAT pitcher with Ryan

Pete Rose - arguably the GOAT hitter

Rickey Henderson - top 10 player ever

Brett Favre - top 5 QB of all time


Martin Brodeur - arguably the GOAT goalie with patrick roy

Lol at Brett Favre being top 5 of all time.

[SouBeachTalents]

just like Manning not being in the top 3-5 because he chokes in the playoffs, even though he has the best stats to support him there, Favres is rated lower because of his bad decision making at times.

Bro, regardless of playoff failures, Manning HAS to be included in the top 5. He's going to hold every significant passing record, has 5 MVP's, and has managed to win a Super Bowl, while reaching 3 overall.

Elway lost his first 3 Super Bowls, getting blown out in record fashion each time. You're telling me one extra ring on a stacked team like the '98 Broncos makes him that much more clutch than Favre?

[sportjames23]

Don't mind him. He's a Peyton Manning dick rider.

Montana's post season resume SHITS on Peyton's. I'm not just talking about wins, I'm talking about performance. Peyton shits the bed literally every year in the playoffs, while Montana was at his absolute best in the playoffs.


This.

[ImKobe]

Lol at Brett Favre being top 5 of all time.

top 5 QB? arguable

[Heavincent]

Bro, regardless of playoff failures, Manning HAS to be included in the top 5. He's going to hold every significant passing record, has 5 MVP's, and has managed to win a Super Bowl, while reaching 3 overall.


- Peyton played worse than Trent Dilfer in that 06 playoff run (4 TD and 7 INT) :oldlol:

- The so called greatest offense of all time got shut out in the super bowl last year.

- Super bowl against the Saints? This happened:

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/437097/tracy-porter-picks-off-manning-o.gif

Greatest regular season QB, hands down. Playoffs are a different story.

[r15mohd]

Bro, regardless of playoff failures, Manning HAS to be included in the top 5. He's going to hold every significant passing record, has 5 MVP's, and has managed to win a Super Bowl, while reaching 3 overall.

Elway lost his first 3 Super Bowls, getting blown out in record fashion each time. You're telling me one extra ring on a stacked team like the '98 Broncos makes him that much more clutch than Favre?


well he still choked many times in the playoff's that accounts for something IMO...I have no reason for him not to be in the top 5 when all's said and done, but we have to wait and see how he finishes.

this is no different than Lebron being ranked 10a/b or 11...his playoff failures keep him from top 5. you can't just only look at the good of things and forget about the failures.

[kennethgriffin]

Nolan Ryan - arguably the GOAT pitcher not even close. Walter Johnson, Randy Johnson, Sandy Koufax, Bob Gibson, Steve Carlton, Christy Matthewson, Cy Young, Roger Clemens, Greg Maddux, Warren Spahn, amongst others, are all clearly better. Satchel Paige too if he had been able to play in MLB more.

Reggie Jackson - mr october Great player, but there were many better.

Cy Young - arguably the GOAT pitcher with Ryan wins and losses are a bad way to measure pitchers anyway, especially without context.

Pete Rose - arguably the GOAT hitter Are you serious? He's not touching Ruth, Bonds, Ted Williams, Cobb, Hornsby, Mays, Aaron, Gehrig, Musial, DiMaggio, Joe Jackson, Mantle, Foxx, and many many more.

Rickey Henderson - top 10 player ever Not even a top 10 outfielder. Ruth Bonds Williams Aaron Mays Cobb Mantle Clemente F. Robinson Musial DiMaggio etc.




Don't talk about baseball if you know nothing about it.


i said "arguably" thats what allot of people say. obviously an argument can be made against them


http://espn.go.com/mlb/feature/video/_/id/8652210/espn-hall-100-ranking-all-greatest-mlb-players

on this ranking

- ricky henderson ranked 11th all time batter

- cy young is rated the 5th all time pitcher

- nolan ryan is rated the 10th all time pitcher


- and all i said was reggie jackson is mr october because thats his nickname you f*ckin dumb shit. he got it from being one of the greatest clutch post season players in history


- pete rose has the most hits all time. its safe to say hes "arguably" one of the greatest hitters. you could say ted williams or bonds or ruth are better. but rose would get some votes.

[SouBeachTalents]

- Peyton played worse than Trent Dilfer in that 06 playoff run (4 TD and 7 INT) :oldlol:

- The so called greatest offense of all time got shut out in the super bowl last year.

- Super bowl against the Saints? This happened:

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/437097/tracy-porter-picks-off-manning-o.gif

Greatest regular season QB, hands down. Playoffs are a different story.

Lol, you have no argument from me, Manning's had an extremely disappointing playoff career. Even with that, he HAS to be in the top 5 QB's of all time. I am in NO way making excuses for him, but the NFL playoff format of one and done is too fluky, a couple of bad games in the postseason can't override 16 seasons of mostly brilliance. You wanna dock him points for his postseason play, that's deserved. But not being a top 5 QB of all time? That's where things get ridiculous and unrealistic

[Heavincent]

Lol, you have no argument from me, Manning's had an extremely disappointing playoff career. Even with that, he HAS to be in the top 5 QB's of all time. I am in NO way making excuses for him, but the NFL playoffs are too fluky, a couple of bad games in the postseason can't override 16 seasons of mostly brilliance. You wanna dock him points for his postseason play, that's deserved. But not being a top 5 QB of all time? That's where things get ridiculous and unrealistic

Yeah, he is top 5. His regular season brilliance is undeniable, which is important. But I can't think of a superstar in any sport with a more disappointing playoff career.

[kennethgriffin]

top 5 qb's all time are

- peyton manning
- joe montana
- john elway
- tom brady
- bret favre


marino had absolutely no success.. cant make the list

[r15mohd]

i said "arguably" thats what allot of people say. obviously an argument can be made against them


http://espn.go.com/mlb/feature/video/_/id/8652210/espn-hall-100-ranking-all-greatest-mlb-players

on this ranking

- ricky henderson ranked 11th all time batter

- cy young is rated the 5th all time pitcher

- nolan ryan is rated the 10th all time pitcher


- and all i said was reggie jackson is mr october because thats his nickname you f*ckin dumb shit. he got it from being one of the greatest clutch post season players in history


- pete rose has the most hits all time. its safe to say hes "arguably" one of the greatest hitters. you could say ted williams or bonds or ruth are better. but rose would get some votes.


funny thing is the argument will certainly be made against them rather than for them...this is why no one takes you seriously, your thought process is delusional.

just look at your comment on Pete Rose...he has a lot of hits, ok. but there are so many more better hitters, just see my post, than Pete Rose to even say he's "arguably the GOAT." you take his hit total as face value, just as you take Kobe's stat's as face value and turn-away to the way he got them.

you can't even admit he's a chucker...you find any formula or reason, lie or not, to say otherwise. reality is, he is a chucker...ChuckBe!

[SamuraiSWISH]

Kobe is like a Favre / Brady hybrid.

He's got the pure individual talent, creativity, entertainment, and maverick ability like Favre. And he also has the overconfidence in his abilities, and poor decision making.

Like Brady he was blessed to be associated with a winning organization, with great infrastructure, that eventually afforded the opportunity to help win multiple championships.

[r15mohd]

Kobe is like a Favre / Brady hybrid.

He's got the pure individual talent, creativity, entertainment, and maverick ability like Favre. And he also has the overconfidence in his abilities, and poor decision making.

Like Brady he was blessed to be associated with a winning organization, with great infrastructure, that eventually afforded the opportunity to help win multiple championships.


not a bad analysis. :cheers:

[SouBeachTalents]

top 5 qb's all time are

- peyton manning
- joe montana
- john elway
- tom brady
- bret favre


marino had absolutely no success.. cant make the list

Wow, Elway is overrated as ****. Johnny Unitas played in the stone age of football and his career QB rating is literally ONE point lower than Elway's.

Unitas & Marino were definitely better than Elway

[kennethgriffin]

funny thing is the argument will certainly be made against them rather than for them...this is why no one takes you seriously, your thought process is delusional.

just look at your comment on Pete Rose...he has a lot of hits, ok. but there are so many more better hitters, just see my post, than Pete Rose to even say he's "arguably the GOAT." you take his hit total as face value, just as you take Kobe's stat's as face value and turn-away to the way he got them.

you can't even admit he's a chucker...you find any formula or reason, lie or not, to say otherwise. reality is, he is a chucker...ChuckBe!


listen dip shit

all i was saying is those guys mentioned were legends in their own right. all "maybe not the best" but allot of people say they are

whats 100% fact is theyre all some of the absolute best

no bums or scrubs or overrated garbage breaks all time career records in a negative way without making a ton of noise in a positive way

all the best to ever do it are somewhere on the list of misses or losses or walks or strike outs or whatever it may be

its absolutely moronic to think anyone at the top or even in the top 10 of any bad list like that is not a legend. theyre all great.

its a f*ckin dumb argument against kobe.. and a dumb one against any of those other legends

now f*ck off lol

[Joyner82reload]

Nolan Ryan - arguably the GOAT pitcher

Reggie Jackson - mr october

Cy Young - arguably the GOAT pitcher with Ryan

Pete Rose - arguably the GOAT hitter

Rickey Henderson - top 10 player ever

Brett Favre - top 5 QB of all time

Martin Brodeur - arguably the GOAT goalie with patrick roy

Nolan Ryan isn't even a top 20 pitcher all time. He was a sideshow because of his ridiculous fastball, terrible control, and attitude.

Cy Young is a top 5 pitcher all time, but has no argument over Walter Johnson other than sheer volume of games pitched

Pete Rose was never an all time great hitter, he just had elite longevity and was overrated due to his hit streak/hit record. He's not in the same stratosphere as Ted Williams, Gehrig, and Ruth

Rickey Henderson might not even be a top 10 left fielder all time, much less a top 10 player

Brett Favre's argument over Elway, Young, Manning, Brady, Unitas, Staubach, or Montana is what, exactly?

Brodeur is in no way top 2 all time. That's Hasik and Roy by a LANDSLIDE.

Why am I surprised that your ignorance in regards to sports doesn't stop with just basketball, it knows no bounds. Surprised you didnt screw up Reggie Jackson's nickname

[kennethgriffin]

i made a thread yesterday... jordans the all time FGAs per game leader

jordans also 2nd all time in misses per game


aww man... hes garbage according to jordan fans... wait wut? LOL

[SouBeachTalents]

Kobe is like a Favre / Brady hybrid.

He's got the pure individual talent, creativity, entertainment, and maverick ability like Favre. And he also has the overconfidence in his abilities, and poor decision making.

Like Brady he was blessed to be associated with a winning organization, with great infrastructure, that eventually afforded the opportunity to help win multiple championships.

I'm not saying the Pats haven't been well run in Brady's regime, but seriously, that franchise was PUTRID before he showed up, that's where the comparisons to the Lakers are definitely inaccurate imo. And for any Belichick arguments, his HC record was 41-57 before Brady started his first game, don't forget that.

[kennethgriffin]

Nolan Ryan isn't even a top 20 pitcher all time. He was a sideshow because of his ridiculous fastball, terrible control, and attitude.

Cy Young is a top 5 pitcher all time, but has no argument over Walter Johnson other than sheer volume of games pitched

Pete Rose was never an all time great hitter, he just had elite longevity and was overrated due to his hit streak/hit record. He's not in the same stratosphere as Ted Williams, Gehrig, and Ruth

Rickey Henderson might not even be a top 10 left fielder all time, much less a top 10 player

Brett Favre's argument over Elway, Young, Manning, Brady, Unitas, Staubach, or Montana is what, exactly?

Brodeur is in no way top 2 all time. That's Hasik and Roy by a LANDSLIDE.

Why am I surprised that your ignorance in regards to sports doesn't stop with just basketball, it knows no bounds.


:roll: :roll: :roll: lets just absolutely sh*t on all these great all time legends and throw their careers in the trash can to somehow back up the argument against kobe


if yall had to sell your souls to bash kobe one more time. youd do it

[SamuraiSWISH]

marino had absolutely no success.. cant make the list
Team success? Ummm ... Do you know why? Football isn't basketball ... individuals have much greater impact on winning than they do in football.

Football is a sport that in the most truest sense of the word is a team effort. Everyone is vital. A great QB means nadda without offensive line blocking for him.

Dan Marino played for some under talented Miami Dolphin teams. Especially defensively. And apart from a few seasons, never had any Jerry Rices, Andre Reed, Michael Irvin, Dwight Clark, Sterling Sharpe to throw to ...

And certainly didn't have an E. Smith, Craig Hodges, Ricky Waters, Thurman Thomas, Marcus Allen, or Terrell Davis running the rock for him.

[kennethgriffin]

attention EVERYONE!


nolan ryan is NOW .........NOTTTTTT a top 20 all time picher!

the cy young award WILL NO LONGER be named after cy young

pete rose IS TRASH!



hey any other great players with long careers? who else played forever?


LETS TRASH THEM TOO!


:lol :lol :roll: :roll: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[Joyner82reload]

:roll: :roll: :roll: lets just absolutely sh*t on all these great all time legends and throw their careers in the trash can to somehow back up the argument against kobe


if yall had to sell your souls to bash kobe one more time. youd do it

I don't think I've ever bashed Kobe, I'm bashing YOU for you lack of sports knowledge.

And FWIW, Kobe is not top 10 all time in terms of ability/impact. He's around 20.

[kennethgriffin]

the insecurity in this thread is literally rewriting the history books

LOOOOOOOL

[kennethgriffin]

wayne gretzky is trash

he took more shots and had more assist attempts than anyone!!!!!!!!!

[kennethgriffin]

I don't think I've ever bashed Kobe, I'm bashing YOU for you lack of sports knowledge.

And FWIW, Kobe is not top 10 all time in terms of ability/impact. He's around 20.


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/77843-nolan-ryan-the-greatest-pitcher-ever



:roll: :roll: :roll:


and

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/post/_/id/11090247/all-nba-players

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[r15mohd]

listen dip shit

all i was saying is those guys mentioned were legends in their own right. all "maybe not the best" but allot of people say they are

whats 100% fact is theyre all some of the absolute best

no bums or scrubs or overrated garbage breaks all time career records in a negative way without making a ton of noise in a positive way

all the best to ever do it are somewhere on the list of misses or losses or walks or strike outs or whatever it may be

its absolutely moronic to think anyone at the top or even in the top 10 of any bad list like that is not a legend. theyre all great.

its a f*ckin dumb argument against kobe.. and a dumb one against any of those other legends

now f*ck off lol

so mad! :roll: :roll: :roll:

you saying arguably GOAT is what get you in the hole, Kobe isn't arguably the GOAT and neither are many of those names you mentioned outside of Roy. so it isn't a dumb argument when they don't have any legitimate chance to ever be the GOAT or even top 3-5 GOAT.

[Cold soul]

I don't think I've ever bashed Kobe, I'm bashing YOU for you lack of sports knowledge.

And FWIW, Kobe is not top 10 all time in terms of ability/impact. He's around 20.

Damn that last sentence is hilarious. :roll:

[SamuraiSWISH]

Strawman kenneth ... you're on MELTDOWN mode. Who is saying Kobe, Pete Rose or any of these guy's aren't great? No one is NOT appreciating Kobe Bryant. Chill out, ya psycho.

[Joyner82reload]

attention EVERYONE!


nolan ryan is NOW .........NOTTTTTT a top 20 all time picher!

the cy young award WILL NO LONGER be named after cy young

pete rose IS TRASH!



hey any other great players with long careers? who else played forever?


LETS TRASH THEM TOO!


:lol :lol :roll: :roll: :oldlol: :oldlol:

I never said Cy Young wasn't a great pitcher, I said he wasn't the GOAT pitcher. He's definately top 5 all time.

Nolan Ryan has no argument over, off the top of my head

Walter Johnson
Cy Young
Roger Clemens
Christy Matthewson
Randy Johnson
Bob Gibson
Greg Maddux
Steve Carlton
Warren Spahn
Tom Seaver
Left Grove
Mariano Rivera
Phil Niekro
Pete Alexander
Sandy Koufax
Bob Feller
Curt Schilling
Gaylord Perry
Bert Blyleven

Pete Rose IS a joke at this point

[kennethgriffin]

I never said Cy Young wasn't a great pitcher, I said he wasn't the GOAT pitcher. He's definately top 5 all time.

Nolan Ryan has no argument over, off the top of my head

Walter Johnson
Cy Young
Roger Clemens
Christy Matthewson
Randy Johnson
Bob Gibson
Greg Maddux
Steve Carlton
Warren Spahn
Tom Seaver
Left Grove
Mariano Rivera
Phil Niekro
Pete Alexander
Sandy Koufax
Bob Feller
Curt Schilling
Gaylord Perry
Bert Blyleven

Pete Rose IS a joke at this point

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Joyner82reload]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/77843-nolan-ryan-the-greatest-pitcher-ever



:roll: :roll: :roll:


and

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/post/_/id/11090247/all-nba-players

:roll: :roll: :roll:


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/656060-not-like-mike-kobe-bryant-is-the-most-overrated-player-in-nba-history

and


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/408235-the-real-truth-lakers-zone-wins-game-gasol-mvp-in-a-runaway

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[kennethgriffin]

"pete rose is a joke"





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[Brokenbeat]

damn yall nikkas watch baseball dont ya got something better to do?:biggums: :biggums:

Crazy, right? I mean, do you what you want behind closed doors, but don't be all up in our faces with that shit. I have a friend that's a baseball fan, so it's all good.

[kennethgriffin]

its amazing how quickly peoples opinions changed on so many legends because they were the equivelant of a kobe record in their respective sports


kobe just ruined the lives and legacies of people who he has no affiliation with

those poor people never had a chance



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[r15mohd]

its amazing how quickly peoples opinions changed on so many legends because they were the equivelant of a kobe record in their respective sports


kobe just ruined the lives and legacies of people who he has no affiliation with

those poor people never had a chance



http://i61.tinypic.com/ruy1e0.jpg


they were never in running for the GOAT spot...like Joyner said, no one here ridiculed their abilities and production, but you indicating they were the GOAT or arguably the GOAT is false. there is no argument to be made, at all.

[kennethgriffin]

they were never in running for the GOAT spot...like Joyner said, no one here ridiculed their abilities and production, but you indicating they were the GOAT or arguably the GOAT is false. there is no argument to be made, at all.


wrong


Brodeur IS arguable goat career Goalie

Rose IS arguably the goat career hitter

Ryan IS arguably a goat career pitcher with cy young and others

favre IS arguably a goat 5 QB

cy young IS arguably a GOAT career pitcher with ryan and others

reggie jackson IS mr october




this is all i said about any of them

and yall acting like i said

THIS GUYS THE BEST PERIOD



get off my f*ckin nuts.. all of you need to learn how to ****ing read


and btw.. yes there are people trashing some of these guys


"lol favre is no where near a top 5 qb"

"ryan isnt top 20"

"pete rose is a joke"

and so on

[Joyner82reload]

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[RoundMoundOfReb]

Barry Bonds is the GOAT