Rose hurt again. Why didn't the Bulls amnesty him?

[Upgrayedd]

Well, we wouldn't have gotten Gasol which is turning out to be a great signing. But Rose goes down with another injury. Pathetic. Sorry, but at this point I'm taking CP3, Rondo, Westbrook over Rose.

[ballinhun8]

So become a fan of those respective teams.



Stop with your damn negativity.

[Undisputed]

Is there an ignore button? This forum wouldn't change one bit if I didn't see your posts. Going to look into this when I get on a PC.

I understand that you're frustrated, and honestly, I don't blame you. We all are. No need for this immature, ignorant shit from fans themselves just to make things worse. The way you express your discontent it is getting old very quickly.

No thread for the game discussion, no thread about a really good win, just the same old tired nonsense.

[Upgrayedd]

Really? Ignore me because I'm not going to kiss Rose's ass anymore. Rose made stupid comments the past couple of days and is injured yet again. I'm sorry if that's too negative. I'm done kissing his ass. When he gets out on the court and stays healthy and quits making stupid comments I'll support him.

Sorry that you're just close minded and anyone who doesn't support the team/players 100% should be ignored and not speak out.

What do you think about the Bears? Still giving Cutler a pass? Because you have to be 100% loyal to that team in order for them to be your favorite team?

I'll say the same thing about the Bears, I'd take Brady, Peyton Manning and Rodgers over him.

[Undisputed]

Really? Ignore me because I'm not going to kiss Rose's ass anymore. Rose made stupid comments the past couple of days and is injured yet again. I'm sorry if that's too negative. I'm done kissing his ass. When he gets out on the court and stays healthy and quits making stupid comments I'll support him.

Sorry that you're just close minded and anyone who doesn't support the team/players 100% should be ignored and not speak out.

What do you think about the Bears? Still giving Cutler a pass? Because you have to be 100% loyal to that team in order for them to be your favorite team?

I'll say the same thing about the Bears, I'd take Brady, Peyton Manning and Rodgers over him.
Read how I phrased that again...


The way you express your discontent it is getting old very quickly.

It's the way you go about supporting this trend of annoying criticism towards Derrick Rose to the point that it overshadows everything positive going on. You can accuse me of a lot of things, but not being open minded is not one of them. It's impossible not to get annoyed with this sort of thing. When all you give is negativity, it's all you're going to get from me.

EDIT: About the Bears, Jay Cutler has never done much with his career besides contribute decent stats. No way do I give him a pass. Derrick Rose is a former MVP dude. Jay sucks even when healthy and there is no question about Rose's ability to win games when he's there. There's a difference between those guys. I am a Colts fan, though. I need to see more to be able to lose faith in Derrick Rose completely. Right now, like I said in another thread...I'm just hoping for the best and trying to tune out all of the negativity towards the Bulls because of Derrick's health.

[Crystallas]

You cry a lot.

[poido123]

Well, we wouldn't have gotten Gasol which is turning out to be a great signing. But Rose goes down with another injury. Pathetic. Sorry, but at this point I'm taking CP3, Rondo, Westbrook over Rose.


Your feministic outbursts and premature comments are really annoying, especially from a bulls fan. There is no room for criticizing a player for taking caution with injury, NONE.

Why don't you go support a different player? You're more suited to being a Bron fan TBH. Hormonal and extremely delusional.

[Upgrayedd]

I'm sorry that Rose has turned out to be a little bitch who makes dumbass comments. I'm sorry you guys can't see that and still want to kiss his ass.

Prove me wrong, Rose. But so far I was right when I said we should have traded him when he only had that one ACL tear. Now no one would want him.

[Upgrayedd]

You cry a lot.

I like this team, I want to like Derrick Rose but right now he's giving me very little to like about him. Constantly injured and with his most recent comments he doesn't seem to care if he plays or not because he's worried about attending meetings and not being in any pain. He's a moron. I liked it better when he kept his mouth shut.

[Upgrayedd]

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[ballinhun8]

So you're the fan the players talk about that doesn't actually read the article or comments. You paraphrase or get your info from the media that bashes Rose and takes his comments out of context.


Great to know that.

[Upgrayedd]

I read and heard his comments. He said he's thinking long term about his health when he sits out and doesn't want to be sore when he's sitting at meetings or attending his kids graduations after he's done playing. He said nothing about getting healthy right and sitting out so he's healthy come playoff time or having a long career. He's just thinking about after basketball. Which shows me he doesn't care if he sits out now obviously and doesn't care if he plays/wins a championship. He'd rather not play and be able to attend meetings when he retires and not be sore. He had a chance to correct himself and still didn't.

I loved Barkley's rant on him on TNT. He was 100% right. Rose needs to just quit talking. Every time he talks he sounds like a moron. Him and his brother.

[ballinhun8]

I read and heard his comments. He said he's thinking long term about his health when he sits out and doesn't want to be sore when he's sitting at meetings or attending his kids graduations after he's done playing. He said nothing about getting healthy right and sitting out so he's healthy come playoff time or having a long career. He's just thinking about after basketball. Which shows me he doesn't care if he sits out now obviously and doesn't care if he plays/wins a championship. He'd rather not play and be able to attend meetings when he retires and not be sore. He had a chance to correct himself and still didn't.

I loved Barkley's rant on him on TNT. He was 100% right. Rose needs to just quit talking. Every time he talks he sounds like a moron. Him and his brother.


So a guy coming off of two MAJOR knee surgeries and basically lifting the cities on his shoulders when he plays isn't allowed to sit a few games here or there in the regular season?? One that is not even 10 games in!!??

Why are you so mad about meaningless games so far? He has shown explosiveness, he has shown cohesiveness, he has shown he is still rusty. So why not ease hin into the Regular Season grind?? We have the depth and star players to let him sit out. As long as he is healthy come playoff time then that's all we should care about.

Having him play meaningless games against the Pacers tonight or the Celtics a week ago, or Orlando, or Philly is probably worst for him. But you need to see him in there so badly for some strange reason.

[Upgrayedd]

He's not lifting anything on his shoulders. He's only played like 15 games in the past 2 years. He's done nothing and then makes stupid comments and he wonders why he has people criticizing him? Really?

How about just get on the court and STAY healthy and prove himself again? Until then he'll have people doubting whether he can stay healthy or not and when he makes comments like he did he'll have people doubting his commitment to playing.

Until he proves to me he can stay healthy and that he wants to play/win. I'll cheer for the Bulls but I'm not defending Rose anymore.

[ballinhun8]

He's not lifting anything on his shoulders. He's only played like 15 games in the past 2 years. He's done nothing and then makes stupid comments and he wonders why he has people criticizing him? Really?

How about just get on the court and STAY healthy and prove himself again? Until then he'll have people doubting whether he can stay health or not and when he makes comments like he did he'll have people doubting his commitment to playing.

Until he proves to me he can stay healthy and that he wants to play/win. I'll cheer for the Bulls but I'm not defending Rose anymore.


He's his own man. He doesn't need anyone defending him.

Stay healthy??? Ummmmm I'm not sure you understand how the human body works. He can't control that he fell on top of someone's foot. Nor a simple cut and his hamstring gave out.

His comments weren't stupid BTW. Its not hard to comprehend. He's thinking of his future. Any person in any field has the right to feel that way. You don't have to take it personal. He is 100% committed to this team. He gives his all in every game and he plays for the city of Chicago. There's not many athletes in any sport that have that kind of responsibility.

[Upgrayedd]

I'm sorry but Rose is soft. You can't tell me that other players wouldn't play through some of these injuries. Ankle injury? They'd be back, hamstring injury? They'd be back quicker. Rose has a long history of minor injuries and now two major knee surgeries on top of it. He's soft and fragile.

[Undisputed]

I'm sorry but Rose is soft. You can't tell me that other players wouldn't play through some of these injuries. Ankle injury? They'd be back, hamstring injury? They'd be back quicker. Rose has a long history of minor injuries and now two major knee surgeries on top of it. He's soft and fragile.
Most players would be back quicker because most players do not have a previous ACL tear. The front office, Derrick Rose, and coaching staff is playing it really safe to hopefully get him back to form for a deep play-off run. We all knew this wouldn't be pretty after two seasons off from those surgeries on his knees, or at least any logically thinking Bulls fans should have known. It's pretty low of you to keep kicking the dog while it's down. Not defending him is one thing, but going on repeating the same old shit talking about Rose is not cool. You really should learn to be more understanding of the situation and circumstance.

Rose does have a lot to prove, but I never had any illusions he'd prove it immediately. When he has played he has actually exceeded all of my expectations. I'm actually encouraged. All of these petty injuries are to be expected from a guy who just had the misfortune of two knee surgeries. He's by no means soft, I don't know how you can even say something like that when you have seen the guts Rose has on the court. Judging him right now is plain ol' ignorance. Rose deserves at least this season and next season to truly prove himself. If the same trend continues for the next two seasons, then sure, we can start discussing amnestying him. But he still has that same ability that he had before his injuries.

[Upgrayedd]

I'm sorry, I don't know how more fans aren't upset with his comments. It's the fans that pay his salary and they pay to see him on the court playing right now. Not worrying about whether he's limping around going to meetings after he retires.

Get your ass on the court and play basketball. Enough already. I'm not going to apologize for these comments. I want to like Rose but he's giving me nothing to like about him lately. When he gets on the court and starts playing like an elite player like he did in his MVP season again, I'll stop complaining. Until then, he's a fragile cry baby who sits out now with minor injuries. Grow some balls, D-Rose and play some f***ing basketball already.

[Undisputed]

So you want Rose to play through every single injury he gets now just because he missed those two years with knee injuries? Ankle, hamstring, and all that other juicy stuff that can lead to something much more serious(like another ACL tear) that will put him out the entire year? It's just not smart.

You have no idea what went on with Derrick, and his comments were said because he knows that playing through things like a hard headed moron was only going to be even more debilitating as time goes on. Word is that his injury woes came from playing through a bunch of injuries in his rookie and sophomore year, which is not surprising. And where do I get that from? Only from someone who actually played with him since rookie year, Luol Deng.

[QUOTE=Luol Deng]"The thing with Derrick is, I was there from his rookie year, I've watched him growing up," the current Miami Heat forward told Bleacher Report. "When he first came to the league, me and Joakim [Noah] would always tell him, 'Derrick, you can't play tonight. You're hurt.' And he always wants to put the team behind him and the city behind him. And even when he was hurt, he would play.

"And I really believe that some of his injuries were because he would play hurt. We would tell him not to. And he was so determined and wanted to be the best he could be, not only for the team, [but] for the city. And we kept trying to tell him to understand, like, 'Look, there's a difference between pain and injury.' And I think now after two injuries, he's being smart."

Of course, that's not how some see it.

Rose has come under intense criticism from fans, former players and

[Upgrayedd]

Most players play hurt. When will Rose start to play through these injuries? I can see if he tore his ACL again why he would be sitting out. But this is just ridiculous at this point. He should have been out there last night.

No excuses. He's soft. That's all there is to it.

[Undisputed]

No excuses. He's soft.

:oldlol:

Okay, man.

[Go Getter]

Und, you still in here trying to drop knowledge on this hopeless case?

[Crystallas]

Most players play hurt. When will Rose start to play through these injuries? I can see if he tore his ACL again why he would be sitting out. But this is just ridiculous at this point. He should have been out there last night.

No excuses. He's soft. That's all there is to it.


:applause:

To your credit, you still manage to post the same 3 or 4 things daily. Despite superfluous brain damage.

[Undisputed]

Und, you still in here trying to drop knowledge on this hopeless case?
Conan went off the deep end...I always knew he was quirky, but holy damn. On to the next one. :cheers:

[nathanjizzle]

Fustration is understandable but talking about amnestying our only hope for a championship is ludicrous and thoughtless

I love to watch rose playmore than anyone, but, the bulls havent had a healthy rose in three straight post seasons. Thats rediculous and horrible luck. We can sacrifice a few games to have a better chance at having a healthy rose in the post season

[Upgrayedd]

I think you guys are the ONLY D-Rose fans out there supporting him and his stupid comments. It's kind of sad at this point.

He's soft and fragile and he made stupid comments. What is there to defend at this point? He'd rather sit on the bench right now so he's not sore in meetings when he retires. F***ing pathetic.

I'm done with D-Rose until he proves himself again. This is Noah's team. Bulls will always be my favorite but I'm done with Rose until he's out there on a regular basis and playing like an MVP again.

[Upgrayedd]

:applause:

To your credit, you still manage to post the same 3 or 4 things daily. Despite superfluous brain damage.

Have fun cheering Derrick Rose still while he makes dumb ass comments and continues to sit on the bench.

I'd rather support the players on the Bulls that actually want to be out there on the court and play.

[Upgrayedd]

Und, you still in here trying to drop knowledge on this hopeless case?

Do you even know how big of a jackass you are?

[ballinhun8]

We cheer for the guys that wear Chicago Bulls jerseys.



Last I checked Derrick Rose still wears a Chicago Bulls jersey.



We support our players. Not sure your 50/50 fandom allegiance can say the same. I'm sure the Spurs fans will welcome you with open arms after you're spamming session here.

[Undisputed]

I don't think you have any room to call anyone a jackass in this thread, Conangrayedd.

I just think we should all let sleepy dogs lie. There's really nothing more to add here from any of us...at least's nothing healthy for discussion.

[Crystallas]

Have fun cheering Derrick Rose still while he makes dumb ass comments and continues to sit on the bench.

I'd rather support the players on the Bulls that actually want to be out there on the court and play.


Nag nag nag... that's all you do.

Like a whiny girl who is cold outside, and has to remind everyone that it's cold every few minutes. Nag nag nag.

[ljsbb27]

It's funny that Upgrayyed is in here talking about him making stupid comments and being a moron when his posts get more and more stupid.

You just repeat yourself and say the same shit over and over again with no substance.

How about we're 6-0 on the road? How about we have one of the best records in the league with important guys missing games? How about our offense looks more dangerous and fluid than it has the entire Thibs era? How about being excited for how much better we will be once we correct our defense and rebounding to get them back to being elite?

I really want to come on here and post more, but morons like Upgrayyed make it difficult to be active on here.

You come in here time and time again and all you basically do is talk shit about DRose. Just shut up already.

The guy can't control being injured. Playing hurt and playing through injuries is two different things. Why don't you bash Noah for missing games injured? Gibson? Gasol? Those guys are warriors? They're not soft?
They miss games for the same shit DRose missing games for.

Rose gets the soft label why? because he missed entire seasons with major injuries? You think Noah would have came back earlier from an ACL or Meniscus tear? No. He would miss the entire season too. Would you call him soft?

DRose had major injuries. That's why he sat. And that's why he sits through minor ones now. If he would have never tore his ACL or Meniscus I guarantee he'd still be playing through minor injuries just like he did his first few seasons when he only missed a handful of games.

A guy who doesn't give a shit about his future, about his city, about his team or teammates doesn't bust his ass for two years in rehab to get his body and skills back to an elite level.

Numerous NBA players past and present have come out in support of Derrick. A lot of guys wish they would have taken the approach Derrick is taken to not ruin their careers or extend their careers. He's still only 26.

And this nonsense about criticizing him for his comments? You're more stupid than he is for even bringing that up. Derrick isn't very intelligent. Never has been and never will be. I could care less. He plays ball and he does it well. He's never going to be a good public speaker. Those comments came off wrong because he doesn't know how to express himself and he wasn't able to substantiate them or correct them when he had the chance because he's not smart enough to do so.

Regardless he worked his ass off to get back on the court. Everyone from the players to the coaches say he's still first one in and last one out. He wouldn't be doing all of this if he didn't care. That expression on his face, that disappointment, his body language, how pissed he was when he had to come out with that hamstring injury speaks louder than any words he could say. He wants to be out there healthy and contributing more than anyone. Yes even more than you Upgrayyed.

[Upgrayedd]

Wow. That must be Rose's brother Reggie who posted that. No one else could be that supportive of this guy still.

Soft, fragile, stupid. Enjoy supporting this guy.

[ballinhun8]

Wow. That must be Rose's brother Reggie who posted that. No one else could be that supportive of this guy still.

Soft, fragile, stupid. Enjoy supporting this guy.



Don't you think there's something wrong with your thinking when you're the only one who thinks that way.

[Upgrayedd]

Don't you think there's something wrong with your thinking when you're the only one who thinks that way.

Maybe the only one in this thread but the only one? Go read the comments on ESPN or on Facebook.

Plenty of Chicago Bulls fans are sick of Derrick Rose.

Go youtube search for Charles Barkley's comments from last week on Inside the NBA.

I'm not the only one who's tired of Rose's stupid comments and tired of him sitting on the bench and not playing.

[ballinhun8]

Maybe the only one in this thread but the only one? Go read the comments on ESPN or on Facebook.

Plenty of Chicago Bulls fans are sick of Derrick Rose.

Go youtube search for Charles Barkley's comments from last week on Inside the NBA.

I'm not the only one who's tired of Rose's stupid comments and tired of him sitting on the bench and not playing.


People on ESPN are worst then here. And half of those comments come from people on FB. I've come to know that most knowledgeable fans aren't ones that spew their hate online.

[tamaraw08]

I try to be a "nice" guy who wants to avoid offending anybody here.
But as a Bulls fan, I can't help but really wonder about Rose commitment to this team.
Bull's Drs, clears him to play. His own Dr cleared him. Then he says only God can tell me when to play.
Then he say's I gotta think long term here about my career etc.
Now, he says, "Im listening to my body"
In the meantime, old fragile guys like Kirk and Tar are forced to carry the torch, gets banged around while their highest paid player looks on.
Now I ask the fans here, really?, There's no hint of doubt from you guys whether this HUMAN BEING IS MAKING A HUMAN MISTAKE? A bad judgement like ALL of commit, really?

[poido123]

I try to be a "nice" guy who wants to avoid offending anybody here.
But as a Bulls fan, I can't help but really wonder about Rose commitment to this team.
Bull's Drs, clears him to play. His own Dr cleared him. Then he says only God can tell me when to play.
Then he say's I gotta think long term here about my career etc.
Now, he says, "Im listening to my body"
In the meantime, old fragile guys like Kirk and Tar are forced to carry the torch, gets banged around while their highest paid player looks on.
Now I ask the fans here, really?, There's no hint of doubt from you guys whether this HUMAN BEING IS MAKING A HUMAN MISTAKE? A bad judgement like ALL of commit, really?



I see where you're coming from, but this is different to flat out saying you're sick and tired of rose being a wimp and we should of amnestied him.

I Will forever give him the benefit of the doubt being a bulls player and his cautiousness is related to legit concerns of previous serious injuries. He should not be put in the same category as other injured players or criticize him for being extra careful.

I do however have a problem with guys like boozer who are completely healthy and suck on defense.

[Undisputed]

I try to be a "nice" guy who wants to avoid offending anybody here.
But as a Bulls fan, I can't help but really wonder about Rose commitment to this team.
Bull's Drs, clears him to play. His own Dr cleared him. Then he says only God can tell me when to play.
Then he say's I gotta think long term here about my career etc.
Now, he says, "Im listening to my body"
In the meantime, old fragile guys like Kirk and Tar are forced to carry the torch, gets banged around while their highest paid player looks on.
Now I ask the fans here, really?, There's no hint of doubt from you guys whether this HUMAN BEING IS MAKING A HUMAN MISTAKE? A bad judgement like ALL of commit, really?
You at least approach this properly. It's not about being nice, it's about being level headed when approaching a sensitive topic. There's not a Bulls fan out there that didn't raise an eyebrow with a whole lot of things Derrick has said. The thing is, I really do not put much stock into what he says. The guy is awkward as hell in front of the camera and has questionable intelligence, why would I hold any comments against him? Yeah, the comments annoy me, but it doesn't change the fact that the reasons he has been sitting is legit, and that he should be sitting with an ailing ankle and hamstring after everything he's been through. Doctors have even said he's lucky to be playing ball, but they didn't say he would be exempt from the setbacks.

No one knows how Derrick is feeling, even his doctors. So we can't sit here and say, "Oh, he should've come back as soon as he was cleared last winter!!". Look at how he played very underwhelming basketball in the FIBA tournament, he looked like a shell of himself, and that was long after he was cleared and was entirely "healthy". Look at the set backs he's experiencing this season, again, long after doctors cleared him last season...could you imagine what would have happened if he rushed in last season soon after being cleared? Keep in mind that at the point he was cleared was the point that the level of intensity in the NBA season picks up.

I am just in a wait and see mode. And I'll be damned if I support all the hate coming towards D-Rose and the Bulls as a result of injuries, yet. I've said this earlier in the thread and will do so again, I need at least two seasons to come to a verdict on Derrick Rose. His talent when healthy and what the amazing things has done for the Bulls in such a short time should at least buy him that much respect from real fans.

[Upgrayedd]

It's been two full seasons pretty much of Rose on the bench. His past contributions to this team don't get him a pass anymore. At least with me. I was excited about him this summer watching him play for Team USA. But his first or second game back, he twists both ankles and misses like 3 games, now his hamstring. And then his stupid comments. Then he had a chance to fix those comments and didn't. I'm just done with him for now. I've defended him on the main forum when people questioned him. I can't anymore. Not until I see him on the court for an extended period of time this season and getting back to MVP form. Until then I'm going to question his commitment to the team with his comments and not playing through these minor ankle/hamstring injuries that other elite players tend to play through.

[poido123]

It's been two full seasons pretty much of Rose on the bench. His past contributions to this team don't get him a pass anymore. At least with me. I was excited about him this summer watching him play for Team USA. But his first or second game back, he twists both ankles and misses like 3 games, now his hamstring. And then his stupid comments. Then he had a chance to fix those comments and didn't. I'm just done with him for now. I've defended him on the main forum when people questioned him. I can't anymore. Not until I see him on the court for an extended period of time this season and getting back to MVP form. Until then I'm going to question his commitment to the team with his comments and not playing through these minor ankle/hamstring injuries that other elite players tend to play through.


Why do you bend over so easily to the Naysayers?

F.ck Em. We have 6 championships and Counting.

Most just hate because they fear what a healthy rose can do. The sooner you stop letting g these trolls get to you about rose, the sooner you will get back to being a normal bulls fan.

until then, you're a b.tch.

[Undisputed]

until then, you're a b.tch.
Poido gone wild.

[nathanjizzle]

betrayedd!