View Full Version : What Would Score Be university of Kentucky vs Sixers?
Bless Mathews
11-19-2014, 04:42 PM
I'd type about 110-90 , Kentucky.
Savages. All of em.
RoundMoundOfReb
11-19-2014, 04:46 PM
Sixers would win
Milbuck
11-19-2014, 04:47 PM
**** Kentucky. **** them hard.
Especially Aaron Harrison. **** that dude with the biggest rubber dick this side of 20Four's house.
They'd get destroyed.
SugarHill
11-19-2014, 04:47 PM
Don't be ridiculous.
Bless Mathews
11-19-2014, 04:49 PM
Y'all Are Trippin.
Lol. Kentucky would smack the shit out of them.
Dat d?
10 players over 6'6 all with wingspans over 7'
JellyBean
11-19-2014, 04:50 PM
After watching that Kansas/Kentucky game, I got Kentucky winning 106 to 94. Holy crap!! I have not seen a team dominate like this since the UNLV '90 team that won the NCAA title over Duke.
Ramza
11-19-2014, 04:50 PM
Y'all Are Trippin.
Lol. Kentucky would smack the shit out of them.
Dat d?
10 players over 6'6 all with wingspans over 7'
:facepalm
Bless Mathews
11-19-2014, 04:52 PM
:facepalm
Y'all act like current sixers roster is full of seasoned veterans that know how to play ball.
They young.
Kentucky squad STACKED with first rounders.
:facepalm
oarabbus
11-19-2014, 05:20 PM
Y'all act like current sixers roster is full of seasoned veterans that know how to play ball.
They young.
Kentucky squad STACKED with first rounders.
:facepalm
A D-League team would mop the floor with Kentucky.
Bless Mathews
11-19-2014, 05:22 PM
A D-League team would mop the floor with Kentucky.
:facepalm
atljonesbro
11-19-2014, 05:23 PM
Here's our annual "How would this college team do vs the worst pro team". Tomorrow will feature "I can beat Brian Scalabrine 1 on 1".
oarabbus
11-19-2014, 05:24 PM
:facepalm
You probably think one of the GOAT college teams could beat the 08 Lions too :roll:
hateraid
11-19-2014, 05:32 PM
Bless, not trying to be a prick but you are being delusional. Sixers by 40 at least. Sixers bench by 25.
Andrew Wiggins
11-19-2014, 05:37 PM
sixers 90-60
that uk team can't score at the nba level. at all
Human Error
11-19-2014, 05:54 PM
I'd type about 110-90 , Kentucky.
Savages. All of em.
Idiot.
Nerles Noel, who is now a laughingstock of the league, was the best Wildcat not too long ago. The gap between NBA and NCAA is much wider than idiots think.
Sportal
11-19-2014, 05:54 PM
I know about Okafor, Towns, and Mudiay. But who was meant to be Kansas' player? That's an ass-whooping..
Bless Mathews
11-19-2014, 06:00 PM
You probably think one of the GOAT college teams could beat the 08 Lions too :roll:
Football WAY different. Smh.
Can't even play till your 21 in nfl.
Ad is 21 years old. His 3rd year playing against nba talent.
Smh.
Kentucky squad full of potential ad esque players.
turret
11-19-2014, 06:01 PM
this is as laughable as when bama could beat an nfl team chatter :no:
pastis
11-19-2014, 06:10 PM
Idiot.
Nerles Noel, who is now a laughingstock of the league, was the best Wildcat not too long ago. The gap between NBA and NCAA is much wider than idiots think.
remember a guy at my high-school here in germany thought that noel will be greater than Dirk. well, until now i cant see this:facepalm
Kblaze8855
11-19-2014, 06:20 PM
Here's our annual "How would this college team do vs the worst pro team". Tomorrow will feature "I can beat Brian Scalabrine 1 on 1".
Only thing is....this team has like 9 guys who could be in the NBA and a couple who would be right now had they not gone back to school. Something like 6 potential first rounders. People who will soon be in the NBA...possibly...on the 76ers.
Vs a team with like 1 guy over 25...with 8-9 undrafted free agents to lose on purpose with?
Noel has played 8 games in the NBA and hes 20.
He pretty much is a college player.
There have been college teams that could play with the current 76ers.
There was a Kentucky team with 11 NBA players on it. 2 of them all stars 7 of them starters.
1996 Antione Walker would be the best player on the floor vs the current 76ers.
There are teams that would make it interesting.
Im not saying this team would win.....im saying...some college teams could compete.
Remains to be seen how good this team actually is.
ArbitraryWater
11-19-2014, 06:24 PM
Kblaze you just locked that LeBron to Cleveland thread :biggums:
Uncle Drew
11-19-2014, 06:30 PM
For real though, this Kentucky team is loaded with 1st round picks.
Hey Yo
11-19-2014, 06:34 PM
Lakers vs. Oak Hill Academy H.S ?
Kblaze8855
11-19-2014, 06:39 PM
No. I did not.
Put 09 Lebron on Kentucky, would they go undeafeated throughout the season?
Clyde
11-19-2014, 06:48 PM
Every year there's a thread on this topic.
silly children. :facepalm
Idiot.
Nerles Noel, who is now a laughingstock of the league, was the best Wildcat not too long ago. The gap between NBA and NCAA is much wider than idiots think.
That has nothing to do with the team now.
He wouldnt even be the back up C if he was still on the team. Fact.
Other than Tony Wroten and MCW, nobody else on the Sixers team would start for UK.
On the other hand, Lyles or Poythress would start over Hollis Thompson.
Towns/WCS/Dakari would start over any big they have.
And if you want to compare their benches, its not even close. UK has 5 guys who would get drafted RIGHT NOW, just on their bench. How many do the Sixers have?
UK would win, because the Sixers would not score 50.
kurple
11-19-2014, 06:54 PM
sixers 90-60
that uk team can't score at the nba level. at all
give UK an proven NBA PG ala Rajon Rondo, how well do they do now?
stanlove1111
11-19-2014, 06:54 PM
Every year there's a thread on this topic.
silly children. :facepalm
I always laugh at this also but this is the first time its not all that funny because the 76ers might be the worst team I have ever seen.
I would have to pick the 76ers to win but won't put as much money on it as I would in other years..
The only time in history that I might favor pick a college team over the worst NBA team would be the UCLA teams with Jabbar or Walton. They would easily be the best player on the floor and the rest of their team was stacked.,
kurple
11-19-2014, 06:55 PM
Other than Tony Wroten and MCW, nobody else on the Sixers team would start for UK.
On the other hand, Lyles or Poythress would start over Hollis Thompson.
Towns/WCS/Dakari would start over any big they have.
And if you want to compare their benches, its not even close. UK has 5 guys who would get drafted RIGHT NOW, just on their bench. How many do the Sixers have?
UK would win, because the Sixers would not score 50.
Noel?
Lebron23
11-19-2014, 07:07 PM
76ers would destroy them.
Bless Mathews
11-19-2014, 07:08 PM
Only thing is....this team has like 9 guys who could be in the NBA and a couple who would be right now had they not gone back to school. Something like 6 potential first rounders. People who will soon be in the NBA...possibly...on the 76ers.
Vs a team with like 1 guy over 25...with 8-9 undrafted free agents to lose on purpose with?
Noel has played 8 games in the NBA and hes 20.
He pretty much is a college player.
There have been college teams that could play with the current 76ers.
There was a Kentucky team with 11 NBA players on it. 2 of them all stars 7 of them starters.
1996 Antione Walker would be the best player on the floor vs the current 76ers.
There are teams that would make it interesting.
Im not saying this team would win.....im saying...some college teams could compete.
Remains to be seen how good this team actually is.
Word.
This Kentucky team is STACKED.
Phillys bench is TRASH.
Kentuckys d is absolutely nasty.
All them long talk athletic mini ad's would smash them scrubs on Philly.
Smh.
Edit: and how many Kentucky players would already be playin in nba if it was still high school to pro era? 3? 4? 5?
Smh.
Bless Mathews
11-19-2014, 07:11 PM
Other than Tony Wroten and MCW, nobody else on the Sixers team would start for UK.
On the other hand, Lyles or Poythress would start over Hollis Thompson.
Towns/WCS/Dakari would start over any big they have.
And if you want to compare their benches, its not even close. UK has 5 guys who would get drafted RIGHT NOW, just on their bench. How many do the Sixers have?
UK would win, because the Sixers would not score 50.
Word.
Preach. Finally someone not blind to the usual.
Most years, this debate , yea, pro teams would win. But this sixer squad is historically awful and Almost entire Kentucky squad 1-10 is draftable talent.
Smh.
Cocaine80s
11-19-2014, 07:19 PM
Kentucky is the most stacked team in college. They are literally running two different teams with NBA talent in one game. Every time there's a sub the entire line up is switched out, ****ing crazy :lol
They would do well vs the sixers but idk if they'd win a 7 game series.
hateraid
11-19-2014, 07:25 PM
1- Stacked in college doesn't all translate to an immediate impact at the NBA level
2- Current Sixers are trained and conditioned to a pro level
3- Cuerrent Sixers are competing with professionals
4- The combined talent pool, age, and experience a huge factor
CelticBaller
11-19-2014, 07:26 PM
Sixers. A NBA team is an all star team from College
Bless Mathews
11-19-2014, 07:31 PM
Sixers. A NBA team is an all star team from College
Haha.
Can you name me the sixers all star college players? Lol. Their best player right now is my niggah tony wroten, pretty good college player. Lol. Lol
Ariza4three
11-19-2014, 07:31 PM
well i mean the 6ers have had close games with some NBA teams. imo in a 7 games series I think the 6ers might lose once.
Kblaze8855
11-19-2014, 07:33 PM
Kentucky is an all star team from college.
Philly started Brandon Davies, Henry sims, and Hollis thompson last game. Two of those guys were on the same college team a couple years ago...with another NBA player...and they were just...ok. They lost to a team led by a guy whos claim to fame is....being cut by these 76ers and now being in the NBDL. The second best player on the team that beat them played briefly for the Erie Bayhawks of the NBDL before going to play in Korea. Not china. Korea. For the Ayang KGC. And he isnt the best player on that team either.
This isnt your usual NBA team. Its an NBA team that built a roster to lose on purpose.
Ariza4three
11-19-2014, 07:35 PM
Kentucky is an all star team from college.
Philly started Brandon Davies, Henry sims, and Hollis thompson last game. Two of those guys were on the same college team a couple years ago...with another NBA player...and they were just...ok.
This isnt your usual NBA team. Its an NBA team that built a roster to lose on purpose.
This is a good point. I really haven't kept track of their roster so I'm guessing they are changing things up still.
noob cake
11-19-2014, 07:40 PM
You know the Sixers play most NBA teams for 3 quarters in 50% of the games right?
You know that Kentucky didn't even break 90 points against Grand Canyon and Buffalo right?
You know that Tony "I've scored 30 points in the NBA" Wroten would literally make any Kentucky guard look like high schoolers right?
You know that Noel in NBA form would look like Prime Hakeem + Mutombo rolled into one on the defensive end against these Kentucky rookies right?
Also you might want to check the college stats of anyone on the 76ers roster.
kshutts1
11-19-2014, 07:40 PM
Whether the roster was built to lose or not does not change the pride that I expect players to have.
Every player on the Sixers has gone through the following, and improved because of it...
Played against better talent than anyone on UK
Practiced with better talent than most on UK
Been coached by a better NBA coach than anyone on UK
Gotten more familiar with the 48 min game, and four 12 min quarters than anyone on UK
Is more familiar with a 23'9" 3p line
In a one game, do or die, sure.. UK could win it. But they wouldn't be likely to win a series. U
Kblaze8855
11-19-2014, 07:48 PM
You know that Noel in NBA form would look like Prime Hakeem + Mutombo rolled into one on the defensive end against these Kentucky rookies right?
Also you might want to check the college stats of anyone on the 76ers roster.
Noel could easily still be in college. And he wouldnt look like Prime Hakeem and Mutombo rolled in one. He was IN COLLEGE in March 2013. How long ago do you think that was? They were in the NIT. His last regular season game he had 8/6 vs a less talented frontcourt than he would play vs Kentucky. Hes played 8 real games since. And only started 5. Hes been in rehab and trying to fix his jumper most of the time since he left college.
Noel would be a good college player right now. Great defender....energy guy.
He wasnt some dominant force in college...and all hes done since is recover, lift weights, and work with a shooting coach.
He isnt THAT much better in a year.
Kblaze8855
11-19-2014, 07:51 PM
Whether the roster was built to lose or not does not change the pride that I expect players to have.
Every player on the Sixers has gone through the following, and improved because of it...
Played against better talent than anyone on UK
Practiced with better talent than most on UK
Been coached by a better NBA coach than anyone on UK
Gotten more familiar with the 48 min game, and four 12 min quarters than anyone on UK
Is more familiar with a 23'9" 3p line
In a one game, do or die, sure.. UK could win it. But they wouldn't be likely to win a series. U
Of course they wouldnt be likely to win a series.
And I dont know if Brett Brown is a better NBA coach than Cal. Calipari did ok on the Nets. Not great...but ok. Made the playoffs.
noob cake
11-19-2014, 07:57 PM
Noel could easily still be in college. And he wouldnt look like Prime Hakeem and Mutombo rolled in one. He was IN COLLEGE in March 2013. How long ago do you think that was? They were in the NIT. His last regular season game he had 8/6 vs a less talented frontcourt than he would play vs Kentucky. Hes played 8 real games since. And only started 5. Hes been in rehab and trying to fix his jumper most of the time since he left college.
Noel would be a good college player right now. Great defender....energy guy.
He wasnt some dominant force in college...and all hes done since is recover, lift weights, and work with a shooting coach.
He isnt THAT much better in a year.
Noel averaged 4.4 blocks a game in college. After January, he averaged 6.3 blocks a game. Some NBA conditioning, coaching and a year of experience. He would absolutely destroy any Kentucky layup attempt.
kshutts1
11-19-2014, 07:59 PM
Of course they wouldnt be likely to win a series.
And I dont know if Brett Brown is a better NBA coach than Cal. Calipari did ok on the Nets. Not great...but ok. Made the playoffs.
Different Cal, too.
But of course you're right, that this is not your typical NBA team. I never entertain these thoughts/threads. This one.. I actually thought.. "well maybe.. they are bad. No, they're still pros. But they are really bad..."
So I can definitely see where this is coming from. Previous threads/questions not so much, but this one has some merit. But over time, the professional team will win the majority of the games.
"Danny O'Shea: When we were kids. We used to race our bikes down Cherry Hill every day after school. We raced every day and he always beat me, but one time, one time I beat him.
Jake Berman: You beat Kevin down Cherry Hill?
Danny O'Shea: Yes, I did. He ate my dust.
Johnny Vennaro: Big deal. One time.
Tad: You know, one time at Randy Cooper's swim party, I did a backflip off the high dive, and my brother chickened out.
Marcus: Roger chickened out? He's a Marine!
Rudy Zolteck: Ah, that's nothing! One time at the spring carnival, I beat both of my brothers in the Cow Dung Toss.
Tad: You beat Matt and Brett in the turd toss? "
Genaro
11-19-2014, 07:59 PM
Some guys seriously overrating college again. Sixers would destroy any team from college no matter how good they are in the NCAA. We're talking about a team with a rosters full of guys who want to be in the NBA vs a team full of NBA players, guys who already made it.
Kblaze8855
11-19-2014, 08:00 PM
I watched Noel in college. I expected him to be great...I generaly look into the bigtime prospects.
He didnt have that great an impact. Standard athletic jumping jack.
And having watched him this year...I dont see much else.
I kinda like him...but hes not just putting in work. And he wasnt some spectacular college player.
Im not sure he would be the best player on Kentucky right now.
Maybe he will show more. Time will tell.
Bless Mathews
11-19-2014, 08:01 PM
Kentucky is an all star team from college.
Philly started Brandon Davies, Henry sims, and Hollis thompson last game. Two of those guys were on the same college team a couple years ago...with another NBA player...and they were just...ok. They lost to a team led by a guy whos claim to fame is....being cut by these 76ers and now being in the NBDL. The second best player on the team that beat them played briefly for the Erie Bayhawks of the NBDL before going to play in Korea. Not china. Korea. For the Ayang KGC. And he isnt the best player on that team either.
This isnt your usual NBA team. Its an NBA team that built a roster to lose on purpose.
Slayed.
1,2,3 years from now, this Kentucky squad will have how many starters in the league?????
4,5,7????
Bless Mathews
11-19-2014, 08:09 PM
Some guys seriously overrating college again. Sixers would destroy any team from college no matter how good they are in the NCAA. We're talking about a team with a rosters full of guys who want to be in the NBA vs a team full of NBA players, guys who already made it.
This sixers team, for most part, is not an nba team. Lol.
Historically TERRIBLE.
Don't be blind. This sixers squad is different.
Serious question,
How many players on this sixers team would ONLY make the sixers team???
Seriously. How many of this roster would be able to make a different nba roster??
Kblaze8855
11-19-2014, 08:19 PM
There are literally 8 guys on Philly who were undrafted free agents.
Look at how many of them have NEVER played...except on Philly.
We acting like Jakarr Sampson is gonna just overwhelm Kentucky with experience?
Actually go look at that roster. Dont talk generalizations. Look at the roster.
The guys playing.
They have like 7-8 guys who would get cut on 20 teams in the league.
Jakarr Sampson, Henry Sims, and Brandon Davies start a game they lost by 33...then they start again and they lose by 53.
You cant keep just calling this a legit NBA team. They are...as an article I just saw said....A Godless Abomination.
Now...will they eventually beat a good nba team?
Sure.
10 borderline nba players can win any one game.
Which is all im saying...because Kentucky has like 8-10 borderline NBA players.
Kblaze8855
11-19-2014, 08:30 PM
Someone who watches Philly...follows the team...
Why are those random clowns starting when MCW, Luc, Noel, KJ, and Wroten are on the team?
They have...some legit players.
KJ is young...I watched him in college. Could be a good player. Why arent MCW, KJ, and Noel getting big minutes just to develop them?
MCW more hurt than I know?
Why is KJ playing 23 minutes?
The ****?
Tanking I know...but are they even trying to sell that they want to develop these dudes they found on the wrong end of an And-1 mixtape getting clowned on the street?
Sarcastic
11-19-2014, 08:32 PM
Current Sixers are an NBA team in name only. It's one of the worst lineups ever assembled in professional sports history. It was put together for the sole purpose of losing games. They're about $20 million under the cap.
Not sure what the score would be, but it could very easily go either way.
Sarcastic
11-19-2014, 08:36 PM
Noel averaged 4.4 blocks a game in college. After January, he averaged 6.3 blocks a game. Some NBA conditioning, coaching and a year of experience. He would absolutely destroy any Kentucky layup attempt.
What NBA conditioning, coaching, and experience has he had? He's played 8 games this year, and sat out last year. He was rehabbing. If anything, he's worse than his Kentucky days. It usually takes a player almost 2 years to come back to 100% from the injury he had.
hateraid
11-19-2014, 08:39 PM
Philly came within a point of beating Houston. Could Kentucky do that?
Kblaze8855
11-19-2014, 08:49 PM
Philly came within a point of beating Houston. Could Kentucky do that?
There is a similar talent difference between Houston and Philly and Philly and Kentucky.
One team miles better...but the other team stays in the game.
As I said...Philly is eventually gonna beat good teams. If they win 13 games this year...they will still compete vs some good teams.
You cant put 12 even somewhat NBA level players on court and have literally no chance to win.
But Kentucky....has a lot of somewhat NBA level players. Some of them would literally be in the NBA...if they chose to come out.
We not considering that? That these are NBA level players....playing in college? It happens. Guys dont get THAT much better in the 6 months from march to the summer league.
Sarcastic
11-19-2014, 08:54 PM
Philly came within a point of beating Houston. Could Kentucky do that?
1992 college all stars also beat Dream Team. Sometimes shit happens.
blood yes
11-19-2014, 09:25 PM
There is a similar talent difference between Houston and Philly and Philly and Kentucky.
One team miles better...but the other team stays in the game.
As I said...Philly is eventually gonna beat good teams. If they win 13 games this year...they will still compete vs some good teams.
You cant put 12 even somewhat NBA level players on court and have literally no chance to win.
But Kentucky....has a lot of somewhat NBA level players. Some of them would literally be in the NBA...if they chose to come out.
We not considering that? That these are NBA level players....playing in college? It happens. Guys dont get THAT much better in the 6 months from march to the summer league.
Im sorry Kblaze, I usually consider you to be a very good and knowledgeable poster, but you are COMPELTELY WRONG :facepalm
The gap between the NBA and the College D1 Level is absolutely INSANE. Like, I'm talking a ridiculous gap. There are more billionaires in the world than NBA players. I don't think you truly recognize how difficult it is to make the NBA. These guys are the best of the best. It's probably harder to make the NBA than get a 4.0 GPA, 2400 SAT, 20 AP courses, go to college, graduate with a 4.0 GPA, then go to Medical School with a 45 on the MCAT.
Peyton Siva, the NCAA Final Four MVP who looked dominant in college? Can't even make an NBA roster.
Adam Morrison and Jimmer Ferdette, 30 point scorers who can seemingly shoot from anymore? Busts
The NBA gap is absolutely insane, I don't think you recognize that. Yes, Kentucky has maybe 7-9 NBA caliber players. the 76ers have 15.
MCW? The guy who nearly dropped a quad-dub against LeBron and the defending champs going up against the Harrison twins? Man, MCW would have like a 30/10/13/10 statline. He would rip the ball from the Harrison twins as if he was taking candy from a baby.
Nerlens Noel? He would look like Maunte Bol the way he would be blocking shots. Maybe like a 12/10/10 blocks stat line.
NBA players play basketball for a living. College players are students. There is an incredible difference.
The only College teams that could have beaten this 76ers team would probably be the Bill Walton/KAJ teams, the 92 BlueDevils (Grant Hill, Laettner) and the Fab Five team with Webber/Jalen/Howard.
Come on Kblaze:facepalm
Bless Mathews
11-19-2014, 09:37 PM
Im sorry Kblaze, I usually consider you to be a very good and knowledgeable poster, but you are COMPELTELY WRONG :facepalm
The gap between the NBA and the College D1 Level is absolutely INSANE. Like, I'm talking a ridiculous gap. There are more billionaires in the world than NBA players. I don't think you truly recognize how difficult it is to make the NBA. These guys are the best of the best. It's probably harder to make the NBA than get a 4.0 GPA, 2400 SAT, 20 AP courses, go to college, graduate with a 4.0 GPA, then go to Medical School with a 45 on the MCAT.
Peyton Siva, the NCAA Final Four MVP who looked dominant in college? Can't even make an NBA roster.
Adam Morrison and Jimmer Ferdette, 30 point scorers who can seemingly shoot from anymore? Busts
The NBA gap is absolutely insane, I don't think you recognize that. Yes, Kentucky has maybe 7-9 NBA caliber players. the 76ers have 15.
MCW? The guy who nearly dropped a quad-dub against LeBron and the defending champs going up against the Harrison twins? Man, MCW would have like a 30/10/13/10 statline. He would rip the ball from the Harrison twins as if he was taking candy from a baby.
Nerlens Noel? He would look like Maunte Bol the way he would be blocking shots. Maybe like a 12/10/10 blocks stat line.
NBA players play basketball for a living. College players are students. There is an incredible difference.
The only College teams that could have beaten this 76ers team would probably be the Bill Walton/KAJ teams, the 92 BlueDevils (Grant Hill, Laettner) and the Fab Five team with Webber/Jalen/Howard.
Come on Kblaze:facepalm
Lolololol. You're generalizing again. Smh.
Noels was BETTER when he was at Kentucky. He's not that good right NOW. he might start THIS YEAR on THIS Kentucky squad.
Philly is FULL of players that wouldn't make 25 rosters in the league.
If Kentucky players declared , and high school to nba was still legal, Kentucky would have AT LEAST 5,6,7 players in league RIGHT NOW taking roster spots away from philly players. Smh.
Don't generalize bruh. This sixer team is different. Probable worst nba team ever. Jesus.
Kentucky will have 4,5 starters in league next year, or getting significant time. At Least. If philly TRIED and USED their cap space, and wasn't trying to tank, at least 5,7 of Philly s roster would be OUT of the league.
Comeon man. KBlaze typin nothin but facts and the truth.
Smh.
Kblaze8855
11-19-2014, 09:43 PM
None of that has anything to do with the players in question. Philly has had 6 people start for them...who never played anywhere else. These are guy who were in college months ago...guys with under 10 games played....
Dont talk to me about real NBA players.
Im not talking about Zach Randolph. Im talking Jakarr Sampson. Philly started 3 people tonight...who never played on any other team.
A 9-10 man rotation of NBA level players...can play with anyone.
Especially when the other guys...are undrafted free agents signed just to meet the NBA salary floor.
Philly has a few real players...and some guys.
Teams full of guys who cant even make the NBA have beaten team USA with 7-8 hall of famers.
Dont talk to me about what cant be done to a team full of NBA rejects built to lose games on purpose.
There have been college teams that would have the 3 of the 4 best players on the floor vs some of the lineups Philly ran out this year.
Stop talking assumptions. Go look at some of those lineups. MCW and Noel have not even played every game.
blood yes
11-19-2014, 09:46 PM
None of that has anything to do with the players in question. Philly has had 6 people start for them...who never played anywhere else. These are guy who were in college months ago...guys with under 10 games played....
Dont talk to me about real NBA players.
Im not talking about Zach Randolph. Im talking Jakarr Sampson. Philly started 3 people tonight...who never played on any other team.
A 9-10 man rotation of NBA level players...can play with anyone.
Especially when the other guys...are undrafted free agents signed just to meet the NBA salary floor.
Philly has a few real players...and some guys.
Teams full of guys who cant even make the NBA have beaten team USA with 7-8 hall of famers.
Dont talk to me about what cant be done to a team full of NBA rejects built to lose games on purpose.
Did you even bother reading what I had to say? Or did you automatically assume I was full of shit after I said something hurtful to you??
You did not address any of my points at all
And we are talking about the 76ers right? The last time I checked, Noel and MCW are both on the 76ers.
Kblaze8855
11-19-2014, 09:55 PM
You made points with no relevance. MCW has played less than 90 minutes this SEASON coming into tonight. Noel has played 8 games in the NBa in his life and you are acting like hes gonna destroy a good college frontcourt...when he didnt do it in college vs worse teams....and hes been out for a year.
Talking about the difference between college and NBA....when a lot of the players in question...wouldnt be in the NBA if not for Philly trying to lose. Some of them have played...8-9 games.
You are just making usual college vs NBA point that ignores the two teams in question.
This isnt a group of guys about to go be gym teachers. This is a group of young NBA players playing in college.....vs a group of the worst NBA players...on a team openly tanking.
If you dont see the difference between some average NBA team and an average college team and....an NBA team of guys who shouldnt be in the NBA vs several guys who will be...some of which only arent...due to choice(going back...vs being undrafted as 8 of phillys players are)......I dont know what to tell you.
You just arent looking past the surface.
I didnt say Kentucky is better than Philly.
But they are close enough to compete. Especially with some of the teams they brought out lately. This team with MCW and Noel out?
Please.
Wally450
11-19-2014, 09:55 PM
The 76ers would sweep and win every game by 20+ points if they were to go in a 7 game series with Kentucky. People don't realize the skill gap between college and pro. Yea Kentucky may look real good but that skill gap is so huge they don't even come close to the 76ers.
blood yes
11-19-2014, 10:01 PM
You made points with no relevance. MCW has played less than 90 minutes this SEASON coming into tonight. Noel has played 8 games in the NBa in his life and you are acting like hes gonna destroy a good college frontcourt...when he didnt do it in college vs worse teams....and hes been out for a year.
Talking about the difference between college and NBA....when a lot of the players in question...wouldnt be in the NBA if not for Philly trying to lose. Some of them have played...8-9 games.
You are just making usual college vs NBA point that ignores the two teams in question.
This isnt a group of guys about to go be gym teachers. This is a group of young NBA players playing in college.....vs a group of the worst NBA players...on a team openly tanking.
If you dont see the difference between some average NBA team and an average college team and....an NBA team of guys who shouldnt be in the NBA vs several guys who will be...some of which only arent...due to choice(going back...vs being undrafted as 8 of phillys players are)......I dont know what to tell you.
You just arent looking past the surface.
I didnt say Kentucky is better than Philly.
But they are close enough to compete.
Im sorry Kblaze, I usually consider you to be a very good and knowledgeable poster, but you are COMPELTELY WRONG
The gap between the NBA and the College D1 Level is absolutely INSANE. Like, I'm talking a ridiculous gap. There are more billionaires in the world than NBA players. I don't think you truly recognize how difficult it is to make the NBA. These guys are the best of the best. It's probably harder to make the NBA than get a 4.0 GPA, 2400 SAT, 20 AP courses, go to college, graduate with a 4.0 GPA, then go to Medical School with a 45 on the MCAT.
Peyton Siva, the NCAA Final Four MVP who looked dominant in college? Can't even make an NBA roster.
Adam Morrison and Jimmer Ferdette, 30 point scorers who can seemingly shoot from anymore? Busts
The NBA gap is absolutely insane, I don't think you recognize that. Yes, Kentucky has maybe 7-9 NBA caliber players. the 76ers have 15.
MCW? The guy who nearly dropped a quad-dub against LeBron and the defending champs going up against the Harrison twins? Man, MCW would have like a 30/10/13/10 statline. He would rip the ball from the Harrison twins as if he was taking candy from a baby.
Nerlens Noel? He would look like Maunte Bol the way he would be blocking shots. Maybe like a 12/10/10 blocks stat line.
NBA players play basketball for a living. College players are students. There is an incredible difference.
The only College teams that could have beaten this 76ers team would probably be the Bill Walton/KAJ teams, the 92 BlueDevils (Grant Hill, Laettner) and the Fab Five team with Webber/Jalen/Howard.
Come on Kblaze
Bolded from my previous point should tell you everything.
Why are you assuming all of Kentucky's NBA caliber players will be good players? There will ALWAYS be busts in the NBA, and I bet you half of the 7-9 kids declaring for the draft will be out of the league within 5 year. MCW is a proven NBA player who is MILES better than the Harrison Twins. With him playing lock-down D, where is Kentucky getting its offense from? Jahil Okafor isn't a terrible passer but he isn't no Webber/Noah. The Wildcats will be playing freelance with the 76ers essentially suffocating them on defense.
Kblaze8855
11-19-2014, 10:06 PM
The 76ers would sweep and win every game by 20+ points if they were to go in a 7 game series with Kentucky. People don't realize the skill gap between college and pro. Yea Kentucky may look real good but that skill gap is so huge they don't even come close to the 76ers.
There are NBA players and college coaches saying otherwise.
Ive been watching this shit over 25 years. I know the NBA players are great. I also know there are hundreds of not quite NBA level guys some of which get signed as roster filler and never play on serious teams.
And a lot of them are on Philly right now.
The two rosters combined...its probably 10 real NBA players. And philly has 6 of them.
They should win.
But it isnt a 40 point spread.
Human Error
11-19-2014, 10:07 PM
Other than Tony Wroten and MCW, nobody else on the Sixers team would start for UK.
On the other hand, Lyles or Poythress would start over Hollis Thompson.
Towns/WCS/Dakari would start over any big they have.
And if you want to compare their benches, its not even close. UK has 5 guys who would get drafted RIGHT NOW, just on their bench. How many do the Sixers have?
UK would win, because the Sixers would not score 50.
People forget way too easily. Nerlens Noel was their best player not too long ago. Now because Noel struggles against bigger boys, you think the same Noel is not even good enough to start on a college team?
Jailblazers7
11-19-2014, 10:08 PM
KJ McDaniels average 17/7 & 3 blocks and doesn't even start for the Sixers. Wroten average 16/5/4 as a college freshman and is miles better now. MCW average 11/7/5 his final college season and was leading the nation in assists for a while. Mbah a Moute was an important contributor on some great UCLA Final 4 teams. Hollis Thompson averaged 16/7 his final year at Georgetown. Brandon Davies was a beast at BYU averaging 17/8. Nerlens Noel was averaging 10/9 & 4 blocks before he tore his ACL.
The college version of all these players would probably beat Kentucky. Now that some of them have some NBA experience and training from NBA coaches? Come on.
Bless Mathews
11-19-2014, 10:13 PM
People forget way too easily. Nerlens Noel was their best player not too long ago. Now because Noel struggles against bigger boys, you think the same Noel is not even good enough to start on a college team?
Lol.
No. Because he blew out his fuccin knee.
Jesus. He's not the same player. Yet.
:facepalm
Kblaze8855
11-19-2014, 10:19 PM
Im sorry Kblaze, I usually consider you to be a very good and knowledgeable poster, but you are COMPELTELY WRONG
The gap between the NBA and the College D1 Level is absolutely INSANE. Like, I'm talking a ridiculous gap. There are more billionaires in the world than NBA players. I don't think you truly recognize how difficult it is to make the NBA. These guys are the best of the best. It's probably harder to make the NBA than get a 4.0 GPA, 2400 SAT, 20 AP courses, go to college, graduate with a 4.0 GPA, then go to Medical School with a 45 on the MCAT.
Peyton Siva, the NCAA Final Four MVP who looked dominant in college? Can't even make an NBA roster.
Adam Morrison and Jimmer Ferdette, 30 point scorers who can seemingly shoot from anymore? Busts
The NBA gap is absolutely insane, I don't think you recognize that. Yes, Kentucky has maybe 7-9 NBA caliber players. the 76ers have 15.
MCW? The guy who nearly dropped a quad-dub against LeBron and the defending champs going up against the Harrison twins? Man, MCW would have like a 30/10/13/10 statline. He would rip the ball from the Harrison twins as if he was taking candy from a baby.
Nerlens Noel? He would look like Maunte Bol the way he would be blocking shots. Maybe like a 12/10/10 blocks stat line.
NBA players play basketball for a living. College players are students. There is an incredible difference.
The only College teams that could have beaten this 76ers team would probably be the Bill Walton/KAJ teams, the 92 BlueDevils (Grant Hill, Laettner) and the Fab Five team with Webber/Jalen/Howard.
Come on Kblaze
Bolded from my previous point should tell you everything.
Why are you assuming all of Kentucky's NBA caliber players will be good players? There will ALWAYS be busts in the NBA, and I bet you half of the 7-9 kids declaring for the draft will be out of the league within 5 year. MCW is a proven NBA player who is MILES better than the Harrison Twins. With him playing lock-down D, where is Kentucky getting its offense from? Jahil Okafor isn't a terrible passer but he isn't no Webber/Noah. The Wildcats will be playing freelance with the 76ers essentially suffocating them on defense.
Yes...half of them will be out of the league....like 8 members of the 76ers would be if Philly didnt want to lose. They are literally signing undrafted guys off the street to meet roster/salary minimums. Which they still failed to do.
Philly will OWE MONEY to the nba PA end of the season. They have to cut a check and divide it among their scrubs because they have not met the NBA salary floor.
They are literally worse than the NBA cap allows. They are paying 22 people....some of them long gone....to hit even that number. Signing undrafted scrub after scrub to add salary and fill the bench. Then starting some of these dudes.
Ive been here since 2001. Ive been on the OTHER side of this argument.
I was on your side of it talking about the Florida team with Noah, Al Horford, and Brewer.
But guess what?
They were talking about playing a memphis team with Pau Gasol, Mike Miller, Rudy Gay and so on. They won like 20 games...but Gasol alone....would hold off a college team. They wouldnt have any way to slow him down.
Philly is not that team. It isnt the usual...bad NBA team.
You cant just give them "Well...they are in the NBA" credit when more than half their roster is only there to help them lose....and their best player has played 87 minutes this season....and their best big is 8 games into his career...and the other team has borderline NBA players too.
You have to admit...its a much more reasonable question than its been in a long time...perhaps ever.
Sarcastic
11-19-2014, 10:37 PM
10 out of 15 players on Philly are rookies or second year players. Most of them don't have this amazing "NBA coaching and conditioning" that everyone is speaking of. Most of these players would not make the Kentucky Wildcats, which has 9 McDonald's All Americans. If Philly had the opportunity, they would play some of these guys ahead of what they currently.
The logic that most people are using is usually correct, in that a college team will never beat a team of professionals. In Philly's case, however, they are professionals in name only. They would not make another team's roster in the NBA.
DMAVS41
11-19-2014, 10:39 PM
Yes...half of them will be out of the league....like 8 members of the 76ers would be if Philly didnt want to lose. They are literally signing undrafted guys off the street to meet roster/salary minimums. Which they still failed to do.
Philly will OWE MONEY to the nba PA end of the season. They have to cut a check and divide it among their scrubs because they have not met the NBA salary floor.
They are literally worse than the NBA cap allows. They are paying 22 people....some of them long gone....to hit even that number. Signing undrafted scrub after scrub to add salary and fill the bench. Then starting some of these dudes.
Ive been here since 2001. Ive been on the OTHER side of this argument.
I was on your side of it talking about the Florida team with Noah, Al Horford, and Brewer.
But guess what?
They were talking about playing a memphis team with Pau Gasol, Mike Miller, Rudy Gay and so on. They won like 20 games...but Gasol alone....would hold off a college team. They wouldnt have any way to slow him down.
Philly is not that team. It isnt the usual...bad NBA team.
You cant just give them "Well...they are in the NBA" credit when more than half their roster is only there to help them lose....and their best player has played 87 minutes this season....and their best big is 8 games into his career...and the other team has borderline NBA players too.
You have to admit...its a much more reasonable question than its been in a long time...perhaps ever.
Agree.
Still though...76ers would be like 10 to 12 point favorites against the best college team on a neutral court....assuming health of course.
But nobody would be shocked to see a super talented team like Kentucky beat MCW, Wroten, and Noel in a game...just wouldn't be that shocking at all.
Bless Mathews
11-19-2014, 10:40 PM
And dats why I aksed the question. This Philly team is different. All time terrible shit.
And Kentucky is stacked to the fuccin gills with future nba players/starters/all stars.
And once again sixer supporters, how many of these Kentucky freshman alone would take these sixer scrubs jobs if they could go straight from high school to the league???
Lol.
Kblaze8855
11-19-2014, 10:49 PM
Agree.
Still though...76ers would be like 10 to 12 point favorites against the best college team on a neutral court....assuming health of course.
But nobody would be shocked to see a super talented team like Kentucky beat MCW, Wroten, and Noel in a game...just wouldn't be that shocking at all.
You know Philly is 18 million dollars...under the salary floor?
End of the season...these scrubs getting paid. According to the CBA...they have to pay 56 million even if they dont have it in contracts.
Philly is playing with 18 million dollars of cap space to hit...the minimum.
They are a full 25 million dollars under the salary cap.
An NBA team isnt supposed to be able to be this untalented. Its what the salary floor was meant for....
Giving them full "Its an NBA team!" credit just feel like people arent looking that deeply....
A team trying to build a real NBA roster...has at least 2 more really good players out of that 25 million. Or 3-4 good role players so the rejects they added never see the floor.
If Philly could get away with it they would probably sign some current college kids just to make sure they win no more than 6 games.
I hope they get the 4th pick somehow.
DMAVS41
11-19-2014, 10:52 PM
You know Philly is 18 million dollars...under the salary floor?
End of the season...these scrubs getting paid. According to the CBA...they have to pay 56 million even if they dont have it in contracts.
Philly is playing with 18 million dollars of cap space to hit...the minimum.
They are a full 25 million dollars under the salary cap.
An NBA team isnt supposed to be able to be this untalented. Its what the salary floor was meant for....
Giving them full "Its an NBA team!" credit just feel like people arent looking that deeply....
A team trying to build a real NBA roster...has at least 2 more really good players out of that 25 million. Or 3-4 good role players so the rejects they added never see the floor.
If Philly could get away with it they would probably sign some current college kids just to make sure they win no more than 6 games.
I hope they get the 4th pick somehow.
Yea...I hate these lottery rules. Really hate them...
Smart for the Sixers though imo because the upside here trumps the middling first round fodder they'd be with Holiday, Young...etc.
But yea...not fun to watch and encourages losing as pros...which never should be the case.
Oh...and MCW is getting absurdly over-rated here in this thread. The idea that he'd dominate a team like Kentucky is absurd. He's a good player, but he's not some polished pro capable of doing that consistently.
ukfan22
11-19-2014, 10:58 PM
Im sorry Kblaze, I usually consider you to be a very good and knowledgeable poster, but you are COMPELTELY WRONG
The gap between the NBA and the College D1 Level is absolutely INSANE. Like, I'm talking a ridiculous gap. There are more billionaires in the world than NBA players. I don't think you truly recognize how difficult it is to make the NBA. These guys are the best of the best. It's probably harder to make the NBA than get a 4.0 GPA, 2400 SAT, 20 AP courses, go to college, graduate with a 4.0 GPA, then go to Medical School with a 45 on the MCAT.
Peyton Siva, the NCAA Final Four MVP who looked dominant in college? Can't even make an NBA roster.
Adam Morrison and Jimmer Ferdette, 30 point scorers who can seemingly shoot from anymore? Busts
The NBA gap is absolutely insane, I don't think you recognize that. Yes, Kentucky has maybe 7-9 NBA caliber players. the 76ers have 15.
MCW? The guy who nearly dropped a quad-dub against LeBron and the defending champs going up against the Harrison twins? Man, MCW would have like a 30/10/13/10 statline. He would rip the ball from the Harrison twins as if he was taking candy from a baby.
Nerlens Noel? He would look like Maunte Bol the way he would be blocking shots. Maybe like a 12/10/10 blocks stat line.
NBA players play basketball for a living. College players are students. There is an incredible difference.
The only College teams that could have beaten this 76ers team would probably be the Bill Walton/KAJ teams, the 92 BlueDevils (Grant Hill, Laettner) and the Fab Five team with Webber/Jalen/Howard.
Come on Kblaze
Bolded from my previous point should tell you everything.
Why are you assuming all of Kentucky's NBA caliber players will be good players? There will ALWAYS be busts in the NBA, and I bet you half of the 7-9 kids declaring for the draft will be out of the league within 5 year. MCW is a proven NBA player who is MILES better than the Harrison Twins. With him playing lock-down D, where is Kentucky getting its offense from? Jahil Okafor isn't a terrible passer but he isn't no Webber/Noah. The Wildcats will be playing freelance with the 76ers essentially suffocating them on defense.
lol the Fab 5
96 and 2012 Kentucky, and 2007 Florida are the best modern college teams and it's not really close.
As for the question of the thread, I don't think the backcourt is skilled enough at this point, but they could probably not get blown out.
LAZERUSS
11-19-2014, 11:57 PM
I remember all the hype the '05 USC Trojans football team was getting (and before their shocking loss to Texas in the Rose Bowl.) There were almost daily articles claiming that that Trojan team could probably beat the worst NFL team.
Guess what? That team contributed Reggie Bush, Steve Smith, Mike Patterson, and perhaps a couple of other players to the NFL...and that was IT. Hell, Heisman-winning QB Matt Leinart was a complete bust.
deja vu
11-20-2014, 12:03 AM
Majority of Kentucky players won't make it to the NBA or be below average NBA players.
They could possibly win one game against the 76ers. In a 7-game series, I pick to 76ers to win 4-1 or 4-2.
Dr.J4ever
11-20-2014, 12:06 AM
I saw this whole 76ers/Kentucky brouhaha the other day around the internet. Calipari immediately said the 76ers would "bury us"..
Someone simulated the games on the website "What if sports" and Kentucky ended up winning around 10% of the games played with 76ers.
So there.
Dr.J4ever
11-20-2014, 12:11 AM
Here's the link....
http://kentucky.247sports.com/Bolt/WSJ-simulates-76ers-vs-Champions-Classic-participants-33056061
The Wall Street Journal took it a step further, and simulated 1,001 meetings between Kentucky, as well as fellow Champions Classic participants Duke, Michigan State and Kansas, and the winless 0-9 Philadelphia 76ers.
The simulation had the 76ers winning 91.6 percent of the matchups by an average score of 87.2-72.9 on a neutral floor.
blood yes
12-23-2014, 11:59 PM
I expect an apology from ALL OF YOU guys.
Im sorry Kblaze, I usually consider you to be a very good and knowledgeable poster, but you are COMPELTELY WRONG
The gap between the NBA and the College D1 Level is absolutely INSANE. Like, I'm talking a ridiculous gap. There are more billionaires in the world than NBA players. I don't think you truly recognize how difficult it is to make the NBA. These guys are the best of the best. It's probably harder to make the NBA than get a 4.0 GPA, 2400 SAT, 20 AP courses, go to college, graduate with a 4.0 GPA, then go to Medical School with a 45 on the MCAT.
Peyton Siva, the NCAA Final Four MVP who looked dominant in college? Can't even make an NBA roster.
Adam Morrison and Jimmer Ferdette, 30 point scorers who can seemingly shoot from anymore? Busts
The NBA gap is absolutely insane, I don't think you recognize that. Yes, Kentucky has maybe 7-9 NBA caliber players. the 76ers have 15.
MCW? The guy who nearly dropped a quad-dub against LeBron and the defending champs going up against the Harrison twins? Man, MCW would have like a 30/10/13/10 statline. He would rip the ball from the Harrison twins as if he was taking candy from a baby.
Nerlens Noel? He would look like Maunte Bol the way he would be blocking shots. Maybe like a 12/10/10 blocks stat line.
NBA players play basketball for a living. College players are students. There is an incredible difference.
The only College teams that could have beaten this 76ers team would probably be the Bill Walton/KAJ teams, the 92 BlueDevils (Grant Hill, Laettner) and the Fab Five team with Webber/Jalen/Howard.
Come on Kblaze
Bolded from my previous point should tell you everything.
Why are you assuming all of Kentucky's NBA caliber players will be good players? There will ALWAYS be busts in the NBA, and I bet you half of the 7-9 kids declaring for the draft will be out of the league within 5 year. MCW is a proven NBA player who is MILES better than the Harrison Twins. With him playing lock-down D, where is Kentucky getting its offense from? Jahil Okafor isn't a terrible passer but he isn't no Webber/Noah. The Wildcats will be playing freelance with the 76ers essentially suffocating them on defense.
Posted the statement above^ and some of you guys disagreed with me. The idea that a college team could beat an NBA team is ridiculous and will ALWAYS BE RIDICULOUS
Dr.J4ever
12-24-2014, 02:18 AM
Can the Miami Heat beat Kentucky?:lol
76ers
Sixers erase 23-point deficit to stun Heat
Box Score
Meanwhile kentucky is headed to OT vs unranked Ole Miss.
But they could beat Sixers tho :facepalm
KNOW1EDGE
01-06-2015, 10:16 PM
Meanwhile kentucky is headed to OT vs unranked Ole Miss.
But they could beat Sixers tho :facepalm
Seriously. I don't get how people can be so confidentally-clueless
DMAVS41
01-06-2015, 10:34 PM
Seriously. I don't get how people can be so confidentally-clueless
It's really not clueless.
Saying they could beat them is different than saying they would.
Could a team like Kentucky, riddled with NBA talent all the way to like their 10th best player...beat a team like the Sixers? Yes, but it's just not likely.
The reason why this example is different is because Kentucky is not really a "college" team. The reason why college teams would rarely, if ever, beat a NBA team is that the difference in talent level would just be too vast outside of a couple guys.
That wouldn't happen with this Kentucky team. Yes they are raw as shit, but a team like the 76ers wouldn't come in and just immediately outclass them in a huge way. They'd outclass them, but not by the standard college vs pro amount.
tontoz
01-06-2015, 10:37 PM
I doubt Kentucky could beat the Sixers but they could probably beat the Knicks. The Knicks are epically bad and they just got rid of two of their better players.
LAZERUSS
01-06-2015, 10:48 PM
I doubt Kentucky could beat the Sixers but they could probably beat the Knicks. The Knicks are epically bad and they just got rid of two of their better players.
Well, KU just barely survived tonight against a 9-5 Ole Miss team. They eked out an 89-86 OT win. Oh, and they barely shot 40%, too (41.6%)
How many players will Ole Miss put in the NBA?
Real14
01-06-2015, 10:55 PM
I doubt Kentucky could beat the Sixers but they could probably beat the Knicks. The Knicks are epically bad and they just got rid of two of their better players.
REPORTED.
Springsteen
01-06-2015, 10:56 PM
REPORTED.
catchin feelings :lol
tontoz
01-06-2015, 10:56 PM
Well, KU just barely survived tonight against a 9-5 Ole Miss team. They eked out an 89-86 OT win. Oh, and they barely shot 40%, too (41.6%)
How many players will Ole Miss put in the NBA?
I bet Ole Miss plays like a team though. The Knicks, not so much.
Every team has off nights now and then. Only "special" teams like the Knicks manage to do it night after night after night.....
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