ESPN Insider Request: The Lakers have been better with Kobe on the bench

[ArbitraryWater]

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11902490/kobe-bryant-shooting-ultimate-mixed-blessing-lakers-nba?ex_cid=espnapi_public

[RoundMoundOfReb]

I'm 90% this guy stole this from my posts trolling Kobe fans with the on/off rating stuff.

[Mr. Jabbar]

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[ArbitraryWater]

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:roll: :roll:

Not written by him, though..

[Ramza]

So what else is new? :confusedshrug:

[konex]

They can't bring themselves to admit they were wrong about Kobe being the 40th best player so every week they write something to diminish him :roll:

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11902490/kobe-bryant-shooting-ultimate-mixed-blessing-lakers-nba


This follows a fascinating trend for Bryant. This isn't normal. Other high-volume scorers like Monta Ellis and LeBron actually see the reverse effect; they shoot less when down. But the further the game is out of the Lakers' reach, the thirstier Bryant is for jump shots.

This follows a fascinating trend for Bryant. This isn't normal. Other high-volume scorers like Monta Ellis and LeBron actually see the reverse effect; they shoot less when down. But the further the game is out of the Lakers' reach, the thirstier Bryant is for jump shots. We saw a similar effect back in the disastrous 2012-13 season.


With Bryant on the floor, the Lakers are scoring a below-average 103.5 points per 100 possessions. One would think that without Bryant, the Lakers would fall apart once he hit the bench. After all, who else can hit shots other than him?

Instead, with Bryant out of the picture, the Lakers have run good stuff and have gotten healthy, open looks from the supporting cast. The result? They're scoring 109.5 points per 100 possessions with the future Hall of Famer on the bench. The team's assist rate climbs from 51.7 percent with Bryant up to 56.5 percent without him.

This is the dumbest thing ever. No one who plays big minutes for LA will have a good +/- when they are 2-9 and uncompetitive for most games. And shame on Kobe for trying to win games even when things look bleak!

[chazzy]

Yay, the Lakers scrubs can score during blowouts

[ArbitraryWater]

That the entire article?

[sportjames23]

Can't tell me ESPN doesn't have a vendetta against Bean for some reason.

[coin24]

Espn :lol

Does anyone still watch that shit? League pass thanks, don't need "expert" opinions from those chumps, may aswell just read posts from the Lebron family on here, same level of retardation:oldlol:

[juju151111]

Will somebody actually post the article?

[chazzy]

This is so damning, it must mean the Lakers are clicking on all cylinders when he's not on the court. Let's take a look at Lin's on/off numbers then, since he's usually the primary ball handler when Kobe's not in.. oh wait.. his numbers are even worse. What does this mean?! Who's responsible for this efficient Laker offense without Kobe? Oh.. Jordan Clarkson during garbage time.

[Doranku]

Yay, the Lakers scrubs can score during blowouts
Right? :oldlol: I guarantee that at LEAST half of the data used was taken from 4th quarter blowouts where Kobe didn't play (GS/Rockets/Suns games come to mind).

I'm supposed to care how the Lakers third string matches up with opposing third strings in the 4th quarter of games that have already been decided?

The rent free joke on this forum is overused but god DAMN, this is the very definition of rent free. It's really pathetic. ESPN is embarrassing... but we already knew that.

[oarabbus]

Can't tell me ESPN doesn't have a vendetta against Bean for some reason.


He called them a "bunch of ****ing morons" a few weeks ago so that's probably why :oldlol:

[sportjames23]

He called them a "bunch of ****ing morons" a few weeks ago so that's probably why :oldlol:

Nah, they were trolling him before that. IIRC, he called them morons after they ranked him #40 in the League. But they've upped the trollery tenfold since then. It's just blatant as **** now. :oldlol:

[AirFederer]

Lol at the stans who only looks at 5 rangz and 28 PPG and nothing else :lol

If you don't have higher standards for Kobe than this it's actually sad:facepalm

His sucking this season is too obvious. On offence, defence and as a chemistry killer.

Last game was a big leap in right direction doe, so there's that.

[Hey Yo]

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11902490/kobe-bryant-shooting-ultimate-mixed-blessing-lakers-nba?ex_cid=espnapi_public
"You know the "Bryant has no teammates" theory? It doesn't hold much water when you break it down. With Bryant on the floor, the Lakers are scoring a below-average 103.5 points per 100 possessions. One would think that without Bryant, the Lakers would fall apart once he hit the bench. After all, who else can hit shots other than him?

Instead, with Bryant out of the picture, the Lakers have run good stuff and have gotten healthy, open looks from the supporting cast. The result? They're scoring 109.5 points per 100 possessions with the future Hall of Famer on the bench. The team's assist rate climbs from 51.7 percent with Bryant up to 56.5 percent without him.

Any casual viewer knows that the Lakers have mostly been blowout-city with Bryant on the floor. The Lakers are minus-120 this season in 385 minutes with Bryant on-court. Not competitive. However, the Bryant-less Lakers aren't just competing -- they're winning. In the 143 minutes that Bryant has watched from the bench, the Lakers are plus-20, or plus-6.4 every 100 possessions. In fact, the Lakers' six most-used lineups without Bryant have all outscored the opponent this season. Every single one.

Shocking, right? Well, not really if you look beyond Bryant's lore. It isn't rocket science to surmise that having a 38.9 percent shooter soak up just about half the shots may be a bad idea. The notion that the Lakers don't have any talent to lean on simply isn't true.

Los Angeles Lakers, 2014-15
Status Lakers-Opp +/-
KB on-court 701-821 -120
KB off-court 309-289 +20

[04mzwach]

Any team will be better if they're sharing the ball over time. His team can't get better with him ball hogging.

[AnaheimLakers24]

Lol at the stans who only looks at 5 rangz and 28 PPG and nothing else :lol

If you don't have higher standards for Kobe than this it's actually sad:facepalm

His sucking this season is too obvious. On offence, defence and as a chemistry killer.

Last game was a big leap in right direction doe, so there's that.
whats the highest standard in this league besides a championship? every player says thats what they play for, even your baby dick man.




















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[COnDEMnED]

Lol at the stans who only looks at 5 rangz and 28 PPG and nothing else :lol

If you don't have higher standards for Kobe than this it's actually sad:facepalm

His sucking this season is too obvious. On offence, defence and as a chemistry killer.

Last game was a big leap in right direction doe, so there's that.
We're tanking for our pick back. Why is it so hard to understand? WE DON'T WANT TO WIN THIS SEASON. It's for the betterment of the TEAM to lose. Wanting Kobe to play better goes AGAINST THE GRAIN of what we're trying to accomplish this season. The Suns ****ed us, we're trying to **** them back. It's that simple. Kobe scoring points, the Lakers losing, developing Clarkson and Randle and keeping our first rounder were the ONLY objectives this season. No more than 3 players not named Kobe or the rookies are coming back next year anyways, so **** the chemistry.