View Full Version : if Kobe played in the eastern conference his entire career, is he still chasing MJ?
STATUTORY
11-20-2014, 02:04 AM
or is he chasing Russell at this point?
36 year old 19th season still doing work in a far tougher conference. really puts everything in perspective
SouBeachTalents
11-20-2014, 02:05 AM
Too bad he got traded from Charlotte, now we'll never know
ImKobe
11-20-2014, 02:05 AM
Too bad he got traded from Charlotte, now we'll never know
They were idiots not to keep him.
Akrazotile
11-20-2014, 02:06 AM
Yeah, if Kobe played for anyone but the Lakers he'd still be chasing MJ. But by 6 instead of 1.
Smoke117
11-20-2014, 02:07 AM
Like everyone else...Kobe has done nothing without playing with great players next to him. He'd just be like Lebron and Wade were for most of their careers...carrying shitty teams to the playoffs, but not winning anything. Not sure how Kobe in the east is supposed to make him or his legacy better...without teammates that are going to help contribute to winning nobody is going to care what he averaged.
kennethgriffin
11-20-2014, 02:07 AM
considering lebron only had to beat 5 teams with 50 wins to make 5 finals
and kobes had to beat 25 teams with 50 wins+ to make 7 finals
going by that math. if kobe played his entire life in the east he would have made more finals than years played
and some might say thats physically impossible
but kobe is no mortal
STATUTORY
11-20-2014, 02:08 AM
Like everyone else...Kobe has done nothing without playing with great players next to him. He'd just be like Lebron and Wade were for most of their careers...carrying shitty teams to the playoffs, but not winning anything. Not sure how Kobe in the east is supposed to make him better...without teammates that are going to help contribute to winning nobody is going to care what he averaged.
Kobe made 3 straight final appearances with the worst supporting cast of any dynastic team in history of NBA
plowking
11-20-2014, 02:09 AM
considering lebron only had to beat 5 teams with 50 wins to make 5 finals
and kobes had to beat 25 teams with 50 wins+ to make 7 finals
going by that math. if kobe played his entire life in the east he would have made more finals than years played
and some might say thats physically impossible
but kobe is no mortal
:oldlol:
kennethgriffin
11-20-2014, 02:10 AM
Like everyone else...Kobe has done nothing without playing with great players next to him. He'd just be like Lebron and Wade were for most of their careers...carrying shitty teams to the playoffs, but not winning anything. Not sure how Kobe in the east is supposed to make him or his legacy better...without teammates that are going to help contribute to winning nobody is going to care what he averaged.
who were the great players on the 2009 and 2010 teams
they had "good" players at best
great = top tier level
at best gasol was really good
great is a word that gets thrown around too loosely these days
great = a top 100 player all time maybe... is gasol even that? hes got 2 third team all nbas and a 0-16 record as leader in the playoffs
who were the great players on the 2009 and 2010 teams
they had "good" players at best
great = top tier level
at best gasol was really good
great is a word that gets thrown around too loosely these days
great = a top 100 player all time maybe... is gasol even that? hes got 2 third team all nbas and a 0-16 record as leader in the playoffs
Yeah and who where Lebron and Wade's teammates and coaches during those two championship years from Kobe?
SouBeachTalents
11-20-2014, 02:12 AM
who were the great players on the 2009 and 2010 teams
they had "good" players at best
great = top tier level
at best gasol was really good
great is a word that gets thrown around too loosely these days
great = a top 100 player all time maybe... is gasol even that? hes got 2 third team all nbas and a 0-16 record as leader in the playoffs
No, as long as you acknowledge Bosh is on the same tier as Gasol
Yeah, if Kobe played for anyone but the Lakers he'd still be chasing MJ. But by 6 instead of 1.
and he is a rapist to boot
Smoke117
11-20-2014, 02:14 AM
who were the great players on the 2009 and 2010 teams
they had "good" players at best
great = top tier level
at best gasol was really good
great is a word that gets thrown around too loosely these days
great = a top 100 player all time maybe... is gasol even that? hes got 2 third team all nbas and a 0-16 record as leader in the playoffs
Whatever. The point is Kobe is not going to carry a team to the finals just because its the east. Nobody does anything without a core of good players by their side. This fantasy you are trying to create is just complete bullshit.
kennethgriffin
11-20-2014, 02:17 AM
No, as long as you acknowledge Bosh is on the same tier as Gasol
lol bosh has twice the career gasol has in the nba thus far
by the time bosh is retired hes gonna have 13-14 allstar selections
gasol has what? 4
bosh has mvp shares in multiple seasons
gasols never gotten an mvp share
bosh can average 24/10/5 and would have the last 4 years if not for having to share
gasol could only dream of stats like that
Akrazotile
11-20-2014, 02:18 AM
and he is a rapist to boot
Only reason he beat the charge is he was a Laker. If Kobe was chucking in front of an empty arena in Minnesota for local TV broadcasts when he got charged, dat nikka'd be doin 15-20 in federal right now for crossin state lines to commit a rapebe :kobe:
STATUTORY
11-20-2014, 02:19 AM
Chris Bosh is a 24/10 PF the way Gasol never was
don't even mention those two in the same sentence
Gasol is 0-16 in playoff without Kobe
Bless Mathews
11-20-2014, 02:20 AM
Yeah, if Kobe played for anyone but the Lakers he'd still be chasing MJ. But by 6 instead of 1.
Game.
Set
Match
Akrazotile
11-20-2014, 02:28 AM
Game.
Set
Match
*hands on knees, switchin back n forf*
Nigguz cant c me
kennethgriffin
11-20-2014, 02:32 AM
Yeah, if Kobe played for anyone but the Lakers he'd still be chasing MJ. But by 6 instead of 1.
what if kobe played for the 90's bulls. he'd have 8 instead of 5
SouBeachTalents
11-20-2014, 02:35 AM
lol bosh has twice the career gasol has in the nba thus far
by the time bosh is retired hes gonna have 13-14 allstar selections
gasol has what? 4
bosh has mvp shares in multiple seasons
gasols never gotten an mvp share
bosh can average 24/10/5 and would have the last 4 years if not for having to share
gasol could only dream of stats like that
Wow, where to begin. I love dispelling this myth that Bosh is on another tier than Gasol. Fine, Bosh has the edge in all-star selections, is he getting that many if he were out West with Duncan, KG, and Dirk? I doubt it
Bosh received MVP shares, in two seasons, coming in 7th place once, and garnering one vote and coming in 12th place, hardly anything to brag about. Gasol lead the Lakers in the '09 regular season and throughout 2010 in winshares? Has Bosh ever done this on a championship team?
And Bosh has NEVER averaged more than 2.5 assists in a season, and averaged 24 points ONCE in his career, so your projections are unrealistic and ridiculous.
Bottom line, Bosh has one All-NBA selection, Gasol has two, Bosh went 3-8 in the playoffs, Gasol went 0-12 in a tougher conference. As for their career stats
Regular season
Gasol: 18, 9, 3 on 52%
Bosh: 19, 9, 2 on 50%
Playoffs
Gasol: 17, 10, 3 on 52%
Bosh: 16, 8, 1 on 47%
I would hardly consider one of these players as having "twice" the career as the other
HOoopCityJones
11-20-2014, 02:36 AM
Wow, where to begin. I love dispelling this myth that Bosh is on another tier than Gasol. Fine, Bosh has the edge in all-star selections, is he getting that many if he were out West with Duncan, KG, and Dirk? I doubt it
Bosh received MVP shares, in two seasons, coming in 7th place once, and garnering one vote and coming in 12th place, hardly anything to brag about. Gasol lead the Lakers in the '09 regular season and throughout 2010 in winshares? Has Bosh ever done this on a championship team?
And Bosh has NEVER averaged more than 2.5 assists in a season, and averaged 24 points ONCE in his career, so your projections are unrealistic and ridiculous.
Bottom line, Bosh has one All-NBA selection, Gasol has two, Bosh went 3-8 in the playoffs, Gasol went 0-12 in a tougher conference. As for their career stats
Regular season
Gasol: 18, 9, 3 on 52%
Bosh: 19, 9, 2 on 50%
Playoffs
Gasol: 17, 10, 3 on 52%
Bosh: 16, 8, 1 on 47%
I would hardly consider one of these players as having "twice" the career as the other
Bosh > Gasol.
Stay mad. :confusedshrug: :pimp:
NBASTATMAN
11-20-2014, 02:37 AM
Chris Bosh is a 24/10 PF the way Gasol never was
don't even mention those two in the same sentence
Gasol is 0-16 in playoff without Kobe
Mike James was a 20 pt and 6 ass guy in toronto with that run and gun offense... WHO THE FCUK IS MIKE JAMES? :roll:
SouBeachTalents
11-20-2014, 02:50 AM
Bosh > Gasol.
Stay mad. :confusedshrug: :pimp:
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10409179&postcount=32
deja vu
11-20-2014, 03:00 AM
No Shaq and Gasol to piggyback on, so he would have been ringless. :lol
Bless Mathews
11-20-2014, 03:02 AM
*hands on knees, switchin back n forf*
Nigguz cant c me
"Forf" - word of the month in a poast nominee.
:applause:
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