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KevinNYC
11-20-2014, 10:57 AM
The Michael Brown case is before the Grand Jury and their decision should come out soon.

A post on a liberal blog makes this good point. As late as this date, CNN is reporting that Brown was 35 feet from the officer's SUV when he was killed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv3OvpqLFjI#t=12

However, this panorama shot shows even much further away
http://images.dailykos.com/images/116754/large/image2_(1).JPG

If this image is correctly stitched together and it appears to be close, this is much more like 35 yards and not feet. So Brown was much further away when he was shot.

This 35 feet business comes straight out of the St. Louis police chief in the first press conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4osIUmBAWI#t=76

"The entire scene from approximately the car door to the shooting is about 35 feet."

He repeats 35 feet later so it wasn't a slip of the tongue.

KevinNYC
11-20-2014, 11:06 AM
some comments from ISH

The cop admitted that he shot him from 30 feet away.

once brown was 30 feet away from the cop

How did Brown assault the officer when he was roughly 35 feet away from him?

35 feet away is = to 11.6667 yards.

This one is from me
At one point Brown was near the car which could have been where an assault took place, then he ran away from the car. He was shot 35 feet from the vehicle. If the cop got out of the car and pursued he would have been closer to Brown than 35 feet.

KevinNYC
11-20-2014, 11:47 AM
The construction workers who came forward mention distance (http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/workers-who-were-witnesses-provide-new-perspective-on-michael-brown/article_14a3e5f8-6c6a-5deb-92fe-87fcee622c29.html) in their account

About a half-hour later, the worker heard a gunshot. Then he saw Brown running away from a police car. Wilson trailed about 10 to 15 feet behind, gun in hand. About 90 feet away from the car, the worker said, Wilson fired another shot at Brown, whose back was turned.

The worker said Brown stumbled and then stopped, put his hands up, turned around and said, “OK, OK, OK, OK, OK.” He said he told investigators from the St. Louis County police and the FBI that because of the stumble, it seemed to him that Brown had been wounded.

A private autopsy showed that all but one of his gunshot wounds came while Brown was facing Wilson. Shawn L. Parcells, who participated in the autopsy, said one of the wounds to the arm could have occurred when Brown was facing away from Wilson. “It’s inconclusive,” he said. St. Louis County and federal autopsy results have not been released.

Wilson, gun drawn, also stopped about 10 feet in front of Brown, the worker said.

Then Brown moved, the worker said. “He’s kind of walking back toward the cop.” He said Brown’s hands were still up.

Wilson began backing up as he fired, the worker said.

After the third shot, Brown’s hands started going down, and he moved about 25 feet toward Wilson, who kept backing away and firing. The worker said he could not tell from where he watched — about 50 feet away — if Brown’s motion toward Wilson after the shots was “a stumble to the ground” or “OK, I’m going to get you, you’re already shooting me.”
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No witness has ever publicly claimed that Brown charged at Wilson. The worker interviewed by the Post-Dispatch disputed claims by Wilson’s defenders that Brown was running full speed at the officer.

“I don’t know if he was going after him or if he was falling down to die,” he said. “It wasn’t a bull rush.”


Gunshot at the car
Then Brown runs
Wilson chases Brown
Wilson starts shooting at Brown's back
Brown stumbles, stops and turns around with his hands up
Wilson stops 10 feet from Brown (presumably he kept coming closer during the stumble)
Brown slowly walks back towards the cop with his hands up
Wilson backs up while firing