If theres one player in history u could make injury free for their whole career......

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

who would it be? you stay the same age so if u choose Bill Walton u dont get to be transported to the 70s if u born in the 90s........but u can still watch tape or w/e

for me its Penny:( :(

[riseagainst]

Bill Walton

[r15mohd]

would like to see the potential of Oden :confusedshrug:

and surely Hill or Penny

[K Xerxes]

Penny, Grant Hill or Tmac. Probably Penny, but they were three scary good talents.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

would like to see the potential of Oden :confusedshrug:

and surely Hill or Penny
pick one nikka:kobe: :whatever:

[Sakkreth]

Sabonis.

/thread

[Im Still Ballin]

Len Bias.

[r15mohd]

pick one nikka:kobe: :whatever:


:coleman:

Oden
Hill
Penny

[T_L_P]

Oden. His injury stalled the big man reassurance by 5 years.

T-Mac too. 03 was godly.

[west]

Bill Walton
This.

[EnoughSaid]

****ing Dwyane Wade man.

Dude would be potential Top 10 All-Time and competing with Kobe for the #2 SG of All time spot.

**** injuries.

[AKADS]

Hill.

[SCdac]

I was born in 85 so for me it's either Penny or Hill. Would have been awesome

[colts19]

Bill Walton, the guy was so Great but is forgotten because of injuries.

[Milbuck]

Sabonis.

/thread
Came here to say this. Dad is the biggest Sabas fan, I only got to see a few highlights. Would be sick to see him 100% healthy and at his peak, in the NBA.

[L.Kizzle]

Maurice Stokes.

We're talking about a top ten talent all time.

[glidedrxlr22]

Brandon Roy.....sigh....:cry:

[Fowl]

INB4 Nathanjizzle


D.Rose

[Jlamb47]

I would have to go with Tracy Mcgrady, dude was Kobe tier til his injury. ALso Grant Hill is another choice.

[Mr Exlax]

Len Bias?

[MP.Trey]

Len Bias?
Cocaine overdose is not an injury.

[kennethgriffin]

obviously kobe


if he was a top 5 ( and soon to be possible top 3 ) player all time with:

2000 - broken hand
2003 - torn knee, torn shoulder in playoffs
2004 - rehabing surgeries
2005 - missing 1/3rd of the year
2008 - torn hand/fingers
2009 - more torn fingers/ligaments/broken dislocations
2010 - dealing with hand issues
2011 - knee surgeries
2013 - torn achilles
2014 - broken leg and more knee surgeries


sh*t... without all this he might have 9-10 rings and the all time points record by now


also fix those 2 ( and soon to be 3rd ) lockouts

[aj1987]

****ing Dwyane Wade man.

Dude would be potential Top 10 All-Time and competing with Kobe for the #2 SG of All time spot.

**** injuries.
How the heck is this the only guy to say D. Wade? If he was healthy, he would've ended up as the 2nd best SG ever (probably tied with Kobe at that spot). Would've won rings in '05, '06, and '13, WITH FMVP's, if he wasn't injured. Might've won FMVP's in '12 and '14 (if the others played well) as well.

[MP.Trey]

If I had to choose just one, Bill Walton.

There have been some good mentions though, Oden, Roy, T-Mac, Hill, etcn are all great choices. Hopefully PG and/or D-Rose doesn't have to join this list. Also imagine how dominant Yao Ming would have been without the foot/knee problems having him miss every second or third game.

[SouBeachTalents]

How the heck is this the only guy to say D. Wade? If he was healthy, he would've ended up as the 2nd best SG ever (probably tied with Kobe at that spot).

Dude could have probably won an MVP, made back to back Finals in '05-'06, and honestly maybe even a third in '07

[aj1987]

Dude could have probably won an MVP, made back to back Finals in '05-'06, and honestly maybe even a third in '07
'07? Doubt it. The team was garbage. Too old. Would've lost to the Cav's. That still would've been an EPIC series though. LeBron vs a healthy Wade in '07? :eek:

[SouBeachTalents]

'07? Doubt it. The team was garbage. Too old. Would've lost to the Cav's. That still would've been an EPIC series though. LeBron vs a healthy Wade in '07? :eek:

Only reason I think they could have in '07 is because the East was TRASH that year, arguably the worst it's ever been. If Wade was healthy, I honestly don't see why they couldn't have made it, would've been an EPIC duel between him and LeBron had they met up

[Myth]

Roy or Oden as a Blazer fan.

[Myth]

Yao would have been good too, because that would have erased the 09 Lakers championship most likely.

[No_Look604]

Bryant "Big Country" Reeves :facepalm

[ImKobe]

Kobe Bryant.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

How the heck is this the only guy to say D. Wade? If he was healthy, he would've ended up as the 2nd best SG ever (probably tied with Kobe at that spot). Would've won rings in '05, '06, and '13, WITH FMVP's, if he wasn't injured. Might've won FMVP's in '12 and '14 (if the others played well) as well.
yall not beatin SA in 05 cmon now
manu was too good

[aj1987]

yall not beatin SA in 05 cmon now
manu was too good

Wade dropped 24/5/7/2/1 in the RS and 29/6/7/1/1 in the Playoffs until his injury. Not even close to Wade. A couple of tiers below, as a matter of fact.

[Timmy D for MVP]

Uhh... can I say Drazen?

If not then I think I'd have to say Yao. I think the landscape of the NBA would be different if he was able to stay healthy.

[SHAQisGOAT]

Probably Bird, so I can see him still beasting into the 90s.

Also, Magic and Bias (not really injuries), Sidney Moncrief, Grant Hill and Penny...

[salwan]

this is such a depressing thread to read :cry:

[AintNoSunshine]

who would it be? you stay the same age so if u choose Bill Walton u dont get to be transported to the 70s if u born in the 90s........but u can still watch tape or w/e

for me its Penny:( :(

Oden
Sabonis

I thought we got a good glimpse of what Hill/Penny/Tmac would be, ability wise.

[Psileas]

Maurice Stokes, so that he'd make the "weak era/competition" excuses even more laughable than they already are. Plus, because his injury was worse than just about anyone else's and was the epitome of "undeserved".

[SamuraiSWISH]

Probably Penny. He was one of the most unique, and entertaining wings in history. Really unique game, from his handle, to his jumper, even to a unique post up skill set. My second vote going to Grant Hill.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Probably Bird, so I can see him still beasting into the 90s.

Also, Magic and Bias (not really injuries), Sidney Moncrief, Grant Hill and Penny...
how i forget Bird......hed be top 3 all time if he wasnt injured with the back
he was easily better than Magic up to 1988

[Uncle Drew]

Sabonis or Walton for me as well.

[SHAQisGOAT]

how i forget Bird......hed be top 3 all time if he wasnt injured with the back
he was easily better than Magic up to 1988


Agreed.
Bulls, Pistons and Lakers would be in deep trouble if Bird was still healthy past 1988 regular-season. Even more, if McHale didn't play through a broken foot, or better yet, if Bias didn't die... Too many hypotheticals though.
Yea, during their (relatively) healthy years, Bird was the better overall player for the most part.

[Genaro]

Magic and the HIV. It would be at least 4 more good years of Magic, maybe another clashes with Jordan.

Bu I wasn't born that time, as far as I was watching it would be Roy. He was one of my favorite players before he went down. He would be the best SG in the league right now.

[EricGordon23]

Gilbert arenas

[houston]

bernard king

[tontoz]

Bo Jackson. Obviously not NBA but his injury bummed me out.

[fragokota]

Sabas for me.

[Ai2death]

Hank Gathers

Man, that shit was so sad, who knows what his future held. Although not really an injury, he was born with it and yeah, just sucked.

[waseem780]

Joel Embiid , I want him to stay injury free. No one here picked a young guy in the league today

Second choice would be T-mac for sure.

[stanlove1111]

Maurice Stokes, so that he'd make the "weak era/competition" excuses even more laughable than they already are. Plus, because his injury was worse than just about anyone else's and was the epitome of "undeserved".


Bill Walton easily. Top 7 player when healthy..

Goof point Psilease, IF Stokes could do it against the competition in this video he could do today..

[KungFuJoe]

Penny.

Hill.

Both guys that had it all...but injuries cut their careers/peaks too short.

[Papaya Petee]

Wade injury free is a top 10 all time no arguments.

[NZStreetBaller]

D rose. Bulls were at their best with deng and rose in mvp form. I dont see the heat making 4 trips to the finals with a fully healthy rose.

[Smoke117]

Most of Sabonis health problems were from a heavy play schedule and not letting various pains and injuries heal during the 80s...that and he fell down the stairs drunk once. He wasn't exactly in the same boat as Bill Walton.

[Dengness9]

Use to be Penny.


Now it's Drose for sure for me. 2011-12 playoffs Bulls could have beaten Miami. It's been basically 3 years of the NBA missing out on Bulls making competition much thicker come post season time.

[Dro]

Johnathan Bender........Always wondered what he could've been....Just could never stay healthy and was always skinny as a stick.....But I've seen that dude do some crazy stuff in some games......

[Bosnian Sajo]

Brandon Roy...he was taking over as the best sg after Bryant and Wade and then boom, dead. :(

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Wade injury free is a top 10 all time no arguments.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[FKAri]

Brazilian Ronaldo

[deja vu]

Yao Ming. He's a joy to watch working in the post.

[red1]

Wade injury free is a top 10 all time no arguments.
great post

[bizil]

For me, I would say Grant Hill. At that time, he was the MOST WELL ROUNDED SF of all time! Bron of course took that shit to the next level. G Hill combined the point forward skills of Pippen with the freak athletic alpha dog shit of Dr. J. That had never been seen before in the NBA. He was really growing into when the injuries happened.

Ironically the 2nd player on my list is T-Mac, who Hill would have played with in Orlando. That tandem equals rings flat out. If both could have stayed injury free, I would have taken them OVER Bron and Wade as a tandem!

[Laker Logic]

Players I've seen live: B. Davis

Lakers: A. Bynum

On GP: Penny, Grant Hill, B. Roy

[D-FENS]

Penny, Grant Hill or Tmac. Probably Penny, but they were three scary good talents.

Good choices, but I take Len Bias

[Round Mound]

Houston Rockets Barkley. Wish It Was Phily and Suns Sir Charles

[notatop29pg]

Chris Paul.

[Just2McFly]

Iverson/thread

[Cold soul]

Grant Hill
T-Mac
Penny Hardaway

[steve]

Couple of players I haven't seen mentioned (or maybe glossed over):

Elgin Baylor
Gus Johnson
Billy Cunningham
Pete Maravich
Paul Westphal
James Silas
David Thompson
Willis Reed
Wes Unseld
Phil Chenier
Ralph Sampson
Isiah Thomas
Mark Price/Brad Daugherty
Kevin Johnson
Chris Mullin
Tim Hardaway
Alonzo Mourning
Vince Carter
Sam Cassell
Peja Stojakovic
Tyson Chandler
Amare Stoudemire
Shaun Livingston

I mean, there are so many but the guys I listed there had injuries that easily swung titles for various reasons (or were just sad cases), on top so many other players mentioned in this thread.

[kamil]

Sam Bowie... just to see what that #2 pick over Jordan would have turned out like.

[JohnFreeman]

Brandon Roy

[PsychoBe]

samaki walker

[Chrono90]

1) Tmac

2) Yao Ming

3) Kobe

[steve]

Sam Bowie... just to see what that #2 pick over Jordan would have turned out like.

You know, if he goes injury free, he isn't even in the '84 draft. He missed two full college seasons and his natural graduating class was '83 but considering how highly thought of his skill set was in college, he most like comes out in '81 or '82, which changes the whole landscape of the NBA a good bit. In every draft from '80 through '82, he easily goes number 1 overall and the only time he wouldn't, he'd have been taken after Sampson in '83.

[kamil]

You know, if he goes injury free, he isn't even in the '84 draft. He missed two full college seasons and his natural graduating class was '83 but considering how highly thought of his skill set was in college, he most like comes out in '81 or '82, which changes the whole landscape of the NBA a good bit. In every draft from '80 through '82, he easily goes number 1 overall and the only time he wouldn't, he'd have been taken after Sampson in '83.

Hmm.... let's just assume injury free since draft.

[Legends66NBA7]

Jay Williams, Shaun Livingston, and Denham Brown.

[DatAsh]

Penny, Hill, Wade, Tmac, and Sabonis are all really good picks in my opinion.

Bias and Oden we just don't know.

My top pick, just going by what he could have been without injury, would be Walton. We're talking about a guy that was arguably better than Kareem(who many see as the goat) at his absolute peak. Probably a top 5 player ever had he been perfectly healthy.

My second would be Maurice Stokes just for how sad that story is. He would also have been one of the all time greats.

[LAZERUSS]

Walton would have to be #1 on any list.

Having said that, though...had Chamberlain not shredded his knee in the ninth game of the '69-70 season, he likely would have won yet another scoring title (as well as rebounding and FG% titles.) He also would likely had led the Lakers to a title, and probably would have hung a 30-20 series in the process.

Furthermore, we KNOW that Wilt easily outplayed Kareem in their ONLY H2H game in which was played before that injury. It would have been interesting to have watched those two go at it, with a Chamberlain who would have been much closer to his prime, than the Wilt that was post-surgery.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Walton would have to be #1 on any list.

Having said that, though...had Chamberlain not shredded his knee in the ninth game of the '69-70 season, he likely would have won yet another scoring title (as well as rebounding and FG% titles.) He also would likely had led the Lakers to a title, and probably would have hung a 30-20 series in the process.

Furthermore, we KNOW that Wilt easily outplayed Kareem in their ONLY H2H game in which was played before that injury. It would have been interesting to have watched those two go at it, with a Chamberlain who would have been much closer to his prime, than the Wilt that was post-surgery.
Alot of posters here including myself were too young to have seen 70s and even 80s ball so theres no point in us picking Walton...

And youre weird as sht bro. U just had to bring up some random Wilt fact huh:biggums: :biggums:

[PassTheRock]

Penny - one of my favorites growing up
Tmac - faded into obscurity too quikly
Yao - loved his post game
broy - wouldve been great to see him lillard and aldridge play together
Bogut - was never the same after the injuries

Hm - rose, oden, amare, ghill, raplh sampson, ewing

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Livingston would have been interesting. 6-7 PG in this age. And you look at how he was able to redefine himself after his injury.

Brad Daugherty, Yao Ming, Amare Stoudemire, Larry Johnson...

[kkb_12]

Grant Hill

[zoom17]

Penny, Yao, Roy, and T-mac

[Nastradamus]

IMO Yao,TMac and Walton are the 3 best players who were greatly affected by injuries, with Yao as the best of that bunch . Hill and a few others are close behind.

[bdreason]

Larry Bird. Followed by Penny Hardaway.

[L.Kizzle]

Gilbert Arenas. Had Gerald Wallace never fell on his leg, he'd probably still be putting up 25 ppg.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

T-Mac

[Timmy D for MVP]

Andrew Bogut. He's never really been on the same path since that bad fall.

[Collie]

Walton is the biggest one, not only because of what he could have been but also because him healthy would have absolutely changed the 80's. During the season he got injured, the Blazers were 50-10 after 60 games, basically a 68 win pace. And they were literally unstoppable.

With Walton healthy and hitting his prime (He would have been only 27 when Bird and Magic entered the league and he was still a spry 33 when he won in 86 and given his playstyle, he would have lasted until 40 as an effective rebounder and defender ala old Duncan), would the Lakers have won in 80 and 82? Or Boston in 81 and 84? The Blazers would have been a force to reckon with and the NBA landscape would have changed.

[shallehalle]

Oden, just because we were able to see some of the other guys play at high level at least for a year

[L.A. Jazz]

Elgin Baylor

I am sure the Lakers would have won a ring in the 60s without army duty and with him healthy all the time.

[Angel Face]

Grant Hill, dude was a beast.

[andremiller07]

Marcus Camby

[VengefulAngel]

Dwyane Wade and Oden.


Oops forgot Grant Hill.

[#number6ix#]

Ralph Samson

[SHAQisGOAT]

Couple of players I haven't seen mentioned (or maybe glossed over):

Elgin Baylor
Gus Johnson
Billy Cunningham
Pete Maravich
Paul Westphal
James Silas
David Thompson
Willis Reed
Wes Unseld
Phil Chenier
Ralph Sampson
Isiah Thomas
Mark Price/Brad Daugherty
Kevin Johnson
Chris Mullin
Tim Hardaway
Alonzo Mourning
Vince Carter
Sam Cassell
Peja Stojakovic
Tyson Chandler
Amare Stoudemire
Shaun Livingston

I mean, there are so many but the guys I listed there had injuries that easily swung titles for various reasons (or were just sad cases), on top so many other players mentioned in this thread.

:coleman:

That's a great list though...

[Asiantastic]

Without a doubt TMac and Hill.

Does Magic's AIDS count as an injury? I would honestly like to see what he could have done between '91 and '95.

[bigkingsfan]

Chris Webber

[kshutts1]

Not on the same tier as many players mentioned, but Allan Houston would have been nice.

[HOoopCityJones]

Penny Hardaway, Grant Hill, Tmac, Yao Ming

[hawksdreamfan44]

Pistol Pete

[Prometheus]

LeBron

We can only guess what would have happened in the 2011 Finals if he didn't bruise his vag.

[stanlove1111]

Walton is the biggest one, not only because of what he could have been but also because him healthy would have absolutely changed the 80's. During the season he got injured, the Blazers were 50-10 after 60 games, basically a 68 win pace. And they were literally unstoppable.

With Walton healthy and hitting his prime (He would have been only 27 when Bird and Magic entered the league and he was still a spry 33 when he won in 86 and given his playstyle, he would have lasted until 40 as an effective rebounder and defender ala old Duncan), would the Lakers have won in 80 and 82? Or Boston in 81 and 84? The Blazers would have been a force to reckon with and the NBA landscape would have changed.


Agreed 100%. The 80s probably would have even been better if that's possible. And there was never a more sure thing then the 78 Blazers if he stayed healthy..

Another thing about Walton is as good as he was he was never really healthy. Even in his UCLA and prime Portland days he wasn't really healthy. They always had to limit his practices and minutes because he was always struggling with problems..Would have loved to see what he could have been if he was totally healthy and could go all out.


Well at least we got to hear him announce games..

[ImKobe]

Agreed 100%. The 80s probably would have even been better if that's possible. And there was never a more sure thing then the 78 Blazers if he stayed healthy..

Another thing about Walton is as good as he was he was never really healthy. Even in his UCLA and prime Portland days he wasn't really healthy. They always had to limit his practices and minutes because he was always struggling with problems..Would have loved to see what he could have been if he was totally healthy and could go all out.


Well at least we got to hear him announce games..

Luke carried the torch. 4 NBA finals, 2 rings.

[Spaulding]

Hill
Walton
Oden
Wade

In order.

[robert de niro]

imagine portland with healthy roy and oden :cry:

[cbombdotcom]

My God, a completely healthy D-Wade would be scary! I actually sort of enjoy the craftiness he's incorporated into his game to make up for his diminishing athleticism, though.

I'll go with a name I don't think I've seen yet: Ron Harper. One of my favorite all-time poor man's Jordans. Him without the ACL tear would have been deadly. He was fun to watch and probably would have gotten a couple All-Star berths.

[Demitri98]

In no order

Walton
Oden
Hill
Penny
Sabonis
Wade
TMac
Yao

Could make a damn good team from this:

Penny/Wade/Hill
TMac/Wade/Penny
Hill/TMac/Penny
Walton/Yao
Sabonis/Oden

That inside size though :eek: :eek: