do you believe Bill Cosby is a serial rapist?

[STATUTORY]

Does it impact your enjoyment of Huxtable reruns if you do?

[~primetime~]

I believe he was, yes.

There is no way 13 different women that worked with him in the past all decided to throw out the same lie and stick with it for decades.

It's a shame he was never punished, but at least he is being embarrassed right now.

[STATUTORY]

I believe he was, yes.

There is no way 13 different women that worked with him in the past all decided to throw out the same lie and stick with it for decades.

It's a shame he was never punished, but at least he is being embarrassed right now.

I don't understand how his wife, a highly educated woman, can stand by him

[LJJ]

http://i.imgur.com/kOinANq.gif

[SCREWstonRockets]

Yes. Exlains why he was always trying to preach to these younger black comics about being too dirty. All while he was doing his raping lmao

[L.Kizzle]

Does it impact your enjoyment of Huxtable reruns if you do?
I do think it's stupid for TV Land to pull the reruns on a 30 year old sitcom? Even if we found out he is a rapist, what is that gonna prove? It's still one of the greatest sitcoms of all-times. I'm pretty sure there are some old TV shows where a murderer or even another rapist. I'm assuming someone from one of those Bonanzas or famous 70s sitcoms did something.

Imagine if the stopped playing the music of guys and gals who did shit. We'd have nothing to listen to.

[Nastradamus]

Yah, no need to pull the show.

Almost impossible that he didn't do it though. Even Mike Tyson couldn't get 15 accusations. Good lord.

[wakencdukest]

Cosby gets royalties from the show. Reason to pull it




Is anyone really going to miss that lame show?

[STATUTORY]

why so many black conservatives with a thing for white women?

[theballerFKA Ace]

Looks like Bill Cosby came on very forcefully to the Incredible Hulk's wife. She said she didn't mention the incident to The Hulk until years after they were married because he was "like many Italian men, could be very possessive at times", and she was afraid The Hulk might possibly damage his career by confronting and assaulting Bill Cosby at the peak of his fame.

https://res.cloudinary.com/dyfxt8ggh/image/upload/v1387904226/The_Mean_Green_Machine_Lou_Ferrigno_as_The_Hulk_Th e_Incredible_Hulk_Returns_1988_bkgm6r.jpg

She also said Bill Cosby's wife was an enabler. She went down with them to Bill Cosby's basement. and then left almost on cue. She then had to fight Bill Cosby off, and when she stormed out of the house, Cosby's wife had a look of guilt, like she knew what was going on.

[SCREWstonRockets]

Yah, no need to pull the show.

Almost impossible that he didn't do it though. Even Mike Tyson couldn't get 15 accusations. Good lord.

Because Mike Tyson didn't rape that girl!!

[sweggeh]

Looks like Bill Cosby came on very forcefully to the Incredible Hulk's wife. She said she didn't mention the incident to The Hulk until years after they were married because he was "like many Italian men, could be very possessive at times", and she was afraid The Hulk might possibly damage his career by confronting and assaulting Bill Cosby at the peak of his fame.

https://res.cloudinary.com/dyfxt8ggh/image/upload/v1387904226/The_Mean_Green_Machine_Lou_Ferrigno_as_The_Hulk_Th e_Incredible_Hulk_Returns_1988_bkgm6r.jpg

She also said Bill Cosby's wife was an enabler. She went down with them to Bill Cosby's basement. and then left almost on cue. She then had to fight Bill Cosby off, and when she stormed out of the house, Cosby's wife had a look of guilt, like she knew what was going on.

wut

[kentatm]

I don't want it to be true but it sure is suspicious that so many women who don't know each other have been saying this shit for so long. A lot of celebs got away with shit back in the day b/c the studios and Hollywood press (at the behest of the studios) would protect the hell out of big time stars who were rapists, molesters, and child/wife beaters.

[L.Kizzle]

I don't want it to be true but it sure is suspicious that so many women who don't know each other have been saying this shit for so long. A lot of celebs got away with shit back in the day b/c the studios and Hollywood press (at the behest of the studios) would protect the hell out of big time stars who were rapists, molesters, and child/wife beaters.
Some of this stuff seems like casting couch goings ons. You wanna make it, get on the Coz pudding pop. We'll see how this all plays out.

[kentatm]

Some of this stuff seems like casting couch goings ons. You wanna make it, get on the Coz pudding pop. We'll see how this all plays out.


It sounds a hell of a lot more like that scumbag Roman Polanski dropping roofies to butt rape young girls than a casting couch thing to me.

[SCREWstonRockets]

hilarious that this all started from a hanibal buress joke. thank you hanibal for exposing this monster lol

[L.Kizzle]

It sounds a hell of a lot more like that scumbag Roman Polanski dropping roofies to butt rape young girls than a casting couch thing to me.
Well yeah. What I don't get is why these ladies waiting so long. I saw a story yesterday aboutssomething that happened in 1967. That was before King got shot. What were they scared off?

[DeuceWallaces]

Well yeah. What I don't get is why these ladies waiting so long. I saw a story yesterday aboutssomething that happened in 1967. That was before King got shot. What were they scared off?

They've been talking about it for many years. No one cares.

Janice Dickinson was on Stern 10 years ago talking about it.

[STATUTORY]

wonder if any former cast members will speak out?

someone get a mic in front of lisa bonet, light skin sisters with european features seem like Cosby type

[dude77]

this is what I've been wondering .. haven't heard of any of his castmates coming out to defend him .. you would think they'd be speaking loudly to defend their good friend and mentor .. clair, rudy, theo, vanessa, denise, the grandparents ? .. not even one of them ? .. that's odd to say the least

[L.Kizzle]

hilarious that this all started from a hanibal buress joke. thank you hanibal for exposing this monster lol
Hannibal broke the code. He outed one of his own, a comic. This has been known for year, but another comic isn't gonna touch it or bring it to the forefront.

It's like a singer coming out and saying, "hey, guess what this singer does? He beats women or such and such." You'd never see that.

It might be wrong, but it's an unwritten rule.

[DeuceWallaces]

Hannibal broke the code. He outed one of his own, a comic. This has been known for year, but another comic isn't gonna touch it or bring it to the forefront.

It's like a singer coming out and saying, "hey, guess what this singer does? He beats women or such and such." You'd never see that.

It might be wrong, but it's an unwritten rule.

WTF are you talking about. There's no entertainment code to protect serial rapists. He didn't even have first hand knowledge, he only read previously stated reports from the internet. This shit has been out there for years and no one bothered.

[STATUTORY]

Hannibal broke the code. He outed one of his own, a comic. This has been known for year, but another comic isn't gonna touch it or bring it to the forefront.

It's like a singer coming out and saying, "hey, guess what this singer does? He beats women or such and such." You'd never see that.

It might be wrong, but it's an unwritten rule.

:biggums: :coleman: :facepalm :wtf:

they are comedians, not catholic priests. this is not the code, the code is don't steal other ppl's jokes

[L.Kizzle]

Other comics know what other comics do, just as other singers know what singers do, athletes, movie starts, ect and so forth. It stays in house.

Imagine if everyone just started telling everything they know someone did, or things they've heard in the industry.

All I'm saying is this Cosby stuff has been known for a while, Burress is the first comic to bring it to the light. Another comic at that.

[L.Kizzle]

In Living Color: The Cosby Condom (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlxNWPkFxLs)

I'm pretty sure Paul Mooney and Dick Greggory know some shit. I know Richard Pryor didn't really care for Cosby, and I wonder why ...

[STATUTORY]

well Im glad he outed Cosby. I'm pretty tuned in to 80s/90s black sitcoms/comedians and i did not know about this

[Andrew Wiggins]

yes but i'm sure at least one of the accusers is lying

janice dickinson, in particular, sounds like she's full of shit

[Im so nba'd out]

http://www.bet.com/content/betcom/news/national/photos/bring-that-week-back/2014/11/bring-that-week-back-bill-cosby-meme-request-backfires/_jcr_content/image.custom1200x675x20.dimg/111114-national-bring-week-back-bill-cosby-meme-twitter-backfires.jpg

[Rodmantheman]

http://www.pureleverage.com/piotr7gabrynowicz/wp-content/uploads/sites/45827/2014/04/Mohammed-Ali-and-Bill-Cosby.jpg

[SCREWstonRockets]

:lol @ the code. Hanibal Buress has been doing that joke for years. Its not like he just decided to out him to the world. Somebody took video of it, posted it online and it went viral

http://youtu.be/DJU30EKCxAE



In Living Color: The Cosby Condom (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlxNWPkFxLs)

I'm pretty sure Paul Mooney and Dick Greggory know some shit. I know Richard Pryor didn't really care for Cosby, and I wonder why ...

Pryor didn't like him because Cosby tried to get all high and mighty with him like he does with a lot of younger black comics. Always trying to tell the younger generation how to act, like hes some sooth sayer.

[ILLsmak]

It sounds a hell of a lot more like that scumbag Roman Polanski dropping roofies to butt rape young girls than a casting couch thing to me.

I really doubt that people aren't sexually broken in one way or another in order to enter Hollywood. I think this goes to show what a disgusting thing the 'industry' is. That includes pop music, too.

I absolutely believe Bill Cosby is a rapist. It's not like it would ever cross my mind, but upon hearing it, it fits. Kinda like if you knew someone who was always kinda strange and someone says, "O him, I used to smoke mad weed with him back in the day." And many people would be like WHAT? LIES. But, I'd be like oh it all makes sense now.

Rape is a really terrible thing, but I have drawn out thoughts on rape. I think any instance where one person has significant power over another, it can be a form of rape. If someone believes that you will reward them or they need to sleep with you in order to progress, well, even tho they are selling their soul, per se, that is a form of rape.

People aren't taking it seriously, or weren't... because it happens all of the time. It's just Cosby was seen as a golden boy. He deserves to get ****ed. Like I said, rape is ****ed up. Drugging people and using your clout to entice them is the lowest of low. At that point, it's not even about sex but just defiling something pure.

But, it is an initiation. It's going to happen at some point. I truly believe that.

-Smak

[STATUTORY]

aside from the raping, cosby just seem like an all around douche with misplaced militancy

http://www.rantsports.com/ncaa-football/2014/11/20/bill-cosby-once-made-a-notre-dame-football-player-cry-in-public/

[QUOTE]

[L.Kizzle]

Is there a reason why he never did it in any of his televised bits or specials?

Also, Cosby and Pryor are in the same era. Maybe Pryor didn't like him for other reasons unknown. Or maybe Pryor was like "Nigha, I know what you do, you better leave me alone muthafakka!" If you say that in Richard Pryor's voice, it's funny as hell.

[Akrazotile]

Is there a reason why he never did it in any of his televised bits or specials?

Also, Cosby and Pryor are in the same era. Maybe Pryor didn't like him for other reasons unknown. Or maybe Pryor was like "Nigha, I know what you do, you better leave me alone muthafakka!" If you say that in Richard Pryor's voice, it's funny as hell.


:biggums:

[guy]

Not sure what to think. On one hand, it would be too weird of a coincidence for all these women to come out with the same story and for it to be false.

On the other hand, it also weird that this has apparently been happening for over 30 years and all these women just shut up about it? If I'm not mistaken, he's NEVER been formally charged. All of these women cared more about their career over justice and/or didn't think they could win? Not one went against the grain? That's odd. I know he has celebrity power, but so did 2pac, Tyson, Kobe, and probably a few other celebrities, and those guys had no other accusations against them but the one time they did they were at least charged. Sounds weird.

[L.Kizzle]

:biggums:
Did you say it?

[~primetime~]

Not sure what to think. On one hand, it would be too weird of a coincidence for all these women to come out with the same story and for it to be false.

On the other hand, it also weird that this has apparently been happening for over 30 years and all these women just shut up about it? If I'm not mistaken, he's NEVER been formally charged. All of these women cared more about their career over justice and/or didn't think they could win? Not one went against the grain? That's odd. I know he has celebrity power, but so did 2pac, Tyson, Kobe, and probably a few other celebrities, and those guys had no other accusations against them but the one time they did they were at least charged. Sounds weird.


These women didn't just suddenly come out with this...they have been talking about for years.

One of them went to a lawyer in the 80s about it but the lawyer refused to go after Cosby because he was Bill Cosby. Then she kept silent thinking it was impossible but came out again in the 90s once she heard another woman come forward with the same exact story.

This has been buzzing about for a while, it's just that for whatever reason the media never put it on full blast until now.

[guy]

These women didn't just suddenly come out with this...they have been talking about for years.

One of them went to a lawyer in the 80s about it but the lawyer refused to go after Cosby because he was Bill Cosby. Then she kept silent thinking it was impossible but came out again in the 90s once she heard another woman come forward with the same exact story.

This has been buzzing about for a while, it's just that for whatever reason the media never put it on full blast until now.

Okay. Its still weird. Like I said, he's never been charged. Not saying he's innocent. If I had to bet on it, I'd say he's probably guilty. His reactions to this whole mess doesn't really help. But just the fact that out of so many women not one of them fought hard enough and made a media circus out of this to bring him to justice seems very odd and says there's at least a chance he's innocent.

[kentatm]

Okay. Its still weird. Like I said, he's never been charged. Not saying he's innocent. If I had to bet on it, I'd say he's probably guilty. His reactions to this whole mess doesn't really help. But just the fact that out of so many women not one of them fought hard enough and made a media circus out of this to bring him to justice seems very odd and says there's at least a chance he's innocent.


You have to remember it was a different world when much of this was supposedly going on. It was much easier to silence an accuser via threats and intimidation than it is today.

Its not like now when an accusation snowballs into the public's consciousness via social media.

[L.Kizzle]

You have to remember it was a different world when much of this was supposedly going on. It was much easier to silence an accuser via threats and intimidation than it is today.

Its not like now when an accusation snowballs into the public's consciousness via social media.
Black man, white woman, 1971. Open and shut case.

[dude77]

:coleman: the shit hole is getting deeper and deeper ..

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/louisa-moritz-bill-cosby-forced-oral-sex-article-1.2018737

[QUOTE][B]Two more women accuse Bill Cosby of sexual attacks; one was 15-YEAR-OLD on

[kentatm]

Black man, white woman, 1971. Open and shut case.


not when you rich as shit and beloved by Americans as "one of the good ones"

[L.Kizzle]

not when you rich as shit and beloved by Americans as "one of the good ones"
Not in 1971, he was doing all right for him self. Not like the Cosby Show era about 15 years later.

1971, he was no Sidney Poitier or Harry Belafonte or Sammy Davis. He wasn't even James Brown level yet, lol.

[L.Kizzle]

:coleman: the shit hole is getting deeper and deeper ..

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/louisa-moritz-bill-cosby-forced-oral-sex-article-1.2018737



http://www.showbiz411.com/2014/11/21/cosby-complaint-law-order-actress-writes-i-was-instructed-to-never-tell-anyone-what-we-did-together



https://www.100candles.com/res/images/celebs/Golden_Globes_2008/gg_100candles_Michelle_Hurd_1.jpg
Is it about time to throw away my copy of Ghost Dad now?

[kentatm]

Not in 1971, he was doing all right for him self. Not like the Cosby Show era about 15 years later.

1971, he was no Sidney Poitier or Harry Belafonte or Sammy Davis. He wasn't even James Brown level yet, lol.


He was pretty damn successful by that point. He was a regular guest on The Tonight Show, released 14 comedy albums several of which either won or were nominated for Grammys, 3 music albums, co-starred on the popular show I, Spy for which he won 3 straight Emmys, was the first African American to star in his own comedy show with The Bill Cosby Show, created Fat Albert for TV, did kids a couple of shows one being The Electric Company, and starred in two other TV movies.

On top of that, he was the comic that rejected the new push into (for then) edgy race/sex/drugs/politics territory with his stand up and was thus loved by middle America for being the stand up you could watch with your kids.

I think you are really underestimating just how famous he was back then.

[L.Kizzle]

He was pretty damn successful by that point. He was a regular guest on The Tonight Show, released 14 comedy albums several of which either won or were nominated for Grammys, 3 music albums, co-starred on the popular show I, Spy for which he won 3 straight Emmys, was the first African American to star in his own comedy show with The Bill Cosby Show, created Fat Albert for TV, did kids a couple of shows one being The Electric Company, and starred in two other TV movies.

On top of that, he was the comic that rejected the new push into (for then) edgy race/sex/drugs/politics territory with his stand up and was thus loved by middle America for being the stand up you could watch with your kids.

I think you are really underestimating just how famous he was back then.
I'm not, He was huge back then. SO huge a young Richard Pryor's early act was basically Cosby. But when the Cosby Show came out in 84, I think only Michael Jackson (and maybe Eddie Murphy) were more popular black entertainer.

At that time, he still was behind a few of those guys I listed.

Also, Diahann Carroll beat Cosby out by one year as the first to star in their own sitcom with Julia.

[kentatm]

I'm not, He was huge back then. SO huge a young Richard Pryor's early act was basically Cosby. But when the Cosby Show came out in 84, I think only Michael Jackson (and maybe Eddie Murphy) were more popular black entertainer.

At that time, he still was behind a few of those guys I listed.

Also, Diahann Carroll beat Cosby out by one year as the first to star in their own sitcom with Julia.

The point is not who was the most famous black man.

The point is he had the level of fame and was making the level of money for his bosses to protect himself from some no names in Hollyweird saying that he forced himself on them.

[L.Kizzle]

The point is not who was the most famous black man.

The point is he had the level of fame and was making the level of money for his bosses to protect himself from some no names in Hollyweird saying that he forced himself on them.
Yeah, true.

[SCREWstonRockets]

Is it about time to throw away my copy of Ghost Dad now?
ghost dad was classic, need to watch it again :lol

[L.Kizzle]

ghost dad was classic, need to watch it again :lol
I used to watch that movie every day when i was younger, that and his stand up special, Bill Cosby, Himself. ****!!

[dude77]

:oldlol: if this keeps up, we can declare him the black jimmy savile of america


http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/entertainment/71-year-old-grandmother-Kristina-Ruehli-accuses-Bill-Cosby-of-1965-sexual-assault.html#fzFWR9JmB7EdT23W.99


71-year-old grandmother Kristina Ruehli accuses Bill Cosby of 1965 sexual assault attempt
Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/entertainment/71-year-old-grandmother-Kristina-Ruehli-accuses-Bill-Cosby-of-1965-sexual-assault.html#M3k726zmWrqukTzX.99

[dude77]

if she utters a word .. he is DONE


http://www.stumpedmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/lisa-bonet-Angel-heart.png

[HitandRun Reggie]

if she utters a word .. he is DONE


http://www.stumpedmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/lisa-bonet-Angel-heart.png


She's not white enough for Mr. Huxtable's tastes.

[dude77]

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/exclusive-actress-accuses-bill-cosby-sex-assault-article-1.2018698


Another actress accuses Bill Cosby of sexual assault in Las Vegas hotel

Model-actress Angela Leslie is the eighth woman to come forward accusing Cosby of sexual harassment or worse. She tells the Daily News he plied her with alcohol, may have tried to drug her and forced her to fondle him in the freaky scene in a luxury suite in 1992.

[QUOTE]After a driver delivered her to the hotel, she checked into her room before Cosby summoned Leslie to his place. When she spoke about her career aspirations, Cosby called for an impromptu audition.

[dude77]

She's not white enough for Mr. Huxtable's tastes.

lol you would think .. but he's allegedly messed with some light skinned or mixed ones also

[L.Kizzle]

I zrbyt you has a whole different meaning now.

[ThePhantomCreep]

if she utters a word .. he is DONE


http://www.stumpedmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/lisa-bonet-Angel-heart.png

He's done already. What are we up to, 20 accusers? They're not all wannabe floozy actresses like Janice Dickenson either--some of these women are lawyers, nurses, publicists, athletic directors, etc.

[BurningHammer]

This is more and more like Michael Jackson case. Now I'm feeling bad for Cosby.

[L.Kizzle]

He's done already. What are we up to, 20 accusers? They're not all wannabe floozy actresses like Janice Dickenson either--some of these women are lawyers, nurses, publicists, athletic directors, etc.
It's like the Donald Sterling stuff, he's 80.

At least the world got to see Fat Albert and the Cosby Show.

[Kblaze8855]

I dont know if I give anyone the benefit of the doubt after like 16 people accuse him of the same thing.

Really...who has a dozen+ false rape/molestations accusations?

Whats funny to me is listening to the radio and hearing southern white guys call in saying its just a smear campaign because Cosby doesnt fall in line with liberal agendas.

Its so out of left field...like...how do you even connect the two issues?

Rush Limbaugh went off on it briefly...noting how the usual support network for liberal black media figures has been silent because he breaks rank and doesnt go with their plans.

How do you politicize 15 rape accusations?

[STATUTORY]

how could his wife, a self proclaimed educated and empowered female sit idly by her man at this point?

divorce his ass, take from him what the law cannot

[KNOW1EDGE]

Rapist? Not at all.

Creepo scumbag who took advantage of and sexually harassed women? Almost certainly.

[Akrazotile]

I dont know if I give anyone the benefit of the doubt after like 16 people accuse him of the same thing.

Really...who has a dozen+ false rape/molestations accusations?

Whats funny to me is listening to the radio and hearing southern white guys call in saying its just a smear campaign because Cosby doesnt fall in line with liberal agendas.

Its so out of left field...like...how do you even connect the two issues?

Rush Limbaugh went off on it briefly...noting how the usual support network for liberal black media figures has been silent because he breaks rank and doesnt go with their plans.

How do you politicize 15 rape accusations?


Its unfortunate all around. Primarily bc hes probably guilty and likely abused many women. Also unfortunate that people will use this as an excuse to dismiss his message, which is an important one despite his personal failings.

[L.Kizzle]

how could his wife, a self proclaimed educated and empowered female sit idly by her man at this point?

divorce his ass, take from him what the law cannot
It's his wife.

[STATUTORY]

It's his wife.
when you preach do the right thing, you should live up to your own sermons

[theballerFKA Ace]

How do you politicize 15 rape accusations?

To be fair, most of these were not "rape" allegations.

I think Arnold Schwarzenegger had 3 or 4 allegations issued against him for inappropriate, unsolicited groping of women in the past and he was elected governor of my state. Bill Clinton also had one inappropriate, unsolicited groping allegation, one sexual harrasment allegation and one outright rape allegation issued against him, all from life long Democrat women.

Sometimes these things blow over...I bet that's what Cosby was hoping for. :oldlol:

[32jazz]

This is more and more like Michael Jackson case. Now I'm feeling bad for Cosby.


Bull. Michael Jackson only had about 2 people accuse him of molestation while he was alive (several more posthumously) & 1 one of those were basically debunked in court.

[L.Kizzle]

Bull. Michael Jackson only had about 2 people accuse him of molestation while he was alive (several more posthumously) & 1 one of those were basically debunked in court.
Jackson 5 Skit in 1971: http://youtu.be/kt9-ebaklf0 (http://youtu.be/kt9-ebaklf0)

[32jazz]

I dont know if I give anyone the benefit of the doubt after like 16 people accuse him of the same thing.

Really...who has a dozen+ false rape/molestations accusations?

Whats funny to me is listening to the radio and hearing southern white guys call in saying its just a smear campaign because Cosby doesnt fall in line with liberal agendas.

Its so out of left field...like...how do you even connect the two issues?

Rush Limbaugh went off on it briefly...noting how the usual support network for liberal black media figures has been silent because he breaks rank and doesnt go with their plans.

How do you politicize 15 rape accusations?

Odd isn't it? These Right wingers are so desperate for a prominent Black person to get on board with their ignorant views that they are immediately pushed to the front of the line.. Desperate enough to even throw 15 White women under the bus to save a man who voiced their biased/stereotypical views.


Prominent Blacks can become near overnight heroes of the Right by spewing Cosby like buffoonery.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Bull. Michael Jackson only had about 2 people accuse him of molestation while he was alive (several more posthumously) & 1 one of those were basically debunked in court.

MJ was accused three times during his lifetime and twice more posthumously. Plus, police found damning evidence against him at Neverland (books with nude boys, a naked photo of one of his little friends, etc). The guy admitted to sharing his bed with little boys FFS. That's as pedo as it gets.

Cosby on the other hand, I still can't picture him raping all these women, even though it's hard to believe he's innocent at this point. It's pretty stunning.

[32jazz]

MJ was accused three times during his lifetime and twice more posthumously. Plus, police found damning evidence against him at Neverland (books with nude boys, a naked photo of one of his little friends, etc). The guy admitted to sharing his bed with little boys FFS. That's as pedo as it gets.

Cosby on the other hand, I still can't picture him raping all these women, even though it's hard to believe he's innocent at this point. It's pretty stunning.

:rolleyes: 2 or 3 whatever while he was alive not fricking 16-20 like Bill Cosby & 2 of those were basically dismissed outright . The 3rd Accusers family was accused under oath by Jay Leno, George Lopez & Chris Tucker of being scam artists who had nothing ,but praise for Michael until he cut them out of his life. The Prosecutor & the 3rd accusers family were LITERALLY laughed out of the courtroom by the jury .

Interesting that you say that Michael admitted to sleeping with many kids because the Police pressured dozens of those kids after the 1st allegations ,but none said anything untoward happened (Dozens but that's boring stuff ,huh?). Santa Barbara County even did something unprecedented in 2003 by putting out a internet casting call for all the hundreds of kids who spent the night at Neverland(tens of thousands who visited over the years) to come forward with abuse allegations.

Zero/0/None came forward from the internet casting call & made any claims about molestation ,but in fact defended him (some under oath) . Pretty boring stuff the hundreds of kids or maybe even thousands of kids to sleep over have nothing salacious to tell. I'm not gonna waste my time with the 2 posthumous accusations when 1 accuser even testified under oath nothing happened(until Michael's death & unprecedented $900 million dollars earned in 5 years).



And people like you can keep repeating something about nude photographs ,but if Michael Jackson would have anything considered child porn the Feds would have taken over & his behind would have been underneath a Federal prison. Stop boring me with stuff.


Now back to the simple damn point I was trying to make . Michael Jackson did not have a steady stream of accusers while he was alive( 2 or 3 & not damn near 20 like Bill Cosby). If anything Michael Jackson had a long stream of dozens or hundreds saying the complete opposite & that was absolutely nothing happened .

Bill Cosby has become a political symbol whose buffoonish statements about Blacks have caused some Whites to throw 20 women (mostly White women no less) under the bus to defend him.

[SCdac]

Hollywood is rife with sexual abuse, alcoholism, addiction, and who knows what kinda other crazy shit. some of it lurks underneath some of it doesn't. When a person gets on stage (or in front of a camera) and acts/plays out a role that's a part of a fictitious story, you have to suspend belief and take the art for what it is. for the most part, at least. but yeah not surprised when some of the most "lovable" people in showbiz have a dark or sadistic side to them.

[LJJ]

And people like you can keep repeating something about nude photographs ,but if Michael Jackson would have anything considered child porn the Feds would have taken over & his behind would have been underneath a Federal prison. Stop boring me with stuff.

Something can be sketchy and indicative without it being child porn or illegal.

My mom has a couple pictures of me and my sis naked as little kids somewhere in that stack of photobooks. She has a lot of photos of us in swimsuits and stuff on vacations.

Is that child porn? No. Is that illegal? No.

Is it incredibly suspect to have a picture book with pages and pages of these kinds of legal images of different boys you don't even know in swimming trunks and naked sitting in your nightstand? Yes. It's not proof that MJ is a sexual predator, but it's certainly proof he was a pedophile in my eyes. No way you just have something like that lying around.

[SunsN07BookIt]

Bill Cosby has become a political symbol whose buffoonish statements about Blacks have caused some Whites to throw 20 women (mostly White women no less) under the bus to defend him.


There are no whites defending Cosby's actions only some marveling at why the media has chosen to go after Cosby so aggressively when they are so many other people that are held up on pedestals by the media that also have sexual abuse stories around them. Of course these "whites", right leaning media who is really what we are talking about, are being purposely obtuse, because they refuse to recognize the sheer difference in the volume of stories against Cosby, and would love to tie in his sexual abuse accusations to other people they see as on the left, and protected by the media in their eyes.

[Dresta]

To be fair, most of these were not "rape" allegations.

I think Arnold Schwarzenegger had 3 or 4 allegations issued against him for inappropriate, unsolicited groping of women in the past and he was elected governor of my state. Bill Clinton also had one inappropriate, unsolicited groping allegation, one sexual harrasment allegation and one outright rape allegation issued against him, all from life long Democrat women.

Sometimes these things blow over...I bet that's what Cosby was hoping for. :oldlol:
I honestly think there's a decent chance old Dick was a rapist. There were three separate accusations from different women, none of whom knew or had heard of the others, who all accused Clinton of either rape or attempted rape back in his Arkansas days, and Clinton's MO was the same in all three instances.

Apparently there are accusations stretching all the way back to his days at Oxford (you know, when he didn't 'inhale'):

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1157708/posts

edit: and oh yeah, him and his wife and cronies contrived to run smear and defamation against women who could possibly expose Clinton as the scum he so clearly is.

[ThePhantomCreep]

:rolleyes: 2 or 3 whatever while he was alive not fricking 16-20 like Bill Cosby & 2 of those were basically dismissed outright . The 3rd Accusers family was accused under oath by Jay Leno, George Lopez & Chris Tucker of being scam artists who had nothing ,but praise for Michael until he cut them out of his life. The Prosecutor & the 3rd accusers family were LITERALLY laughed out of the courtroom by the jury .

Interesting that you say that Michael admitted to sleeping with many kids because the Police pressured dozens of those kids after the 1st allegations ,but none said anything untoward happened (Dozens but that's boring stuff ,huh?). Santa Barbara County even did something unprecedented in 2003 by putting out a internet casting call for all the hundreds of kids who spent the night at Neverland(tens of thousands who visited over the years) to come forward with abuse allegations.

Zero/0/None came forward from the internet casting call & made any claims about molestation ,but in fact defended him (some under oath) . Pretty boring stuff the hundreds of kids or maybe even thousands of kids to sleep over have nothing salacious to tell. I'm not gonna waste my time with the 2 posthumous accusations when 1 accuser even testified under oath nothing happened(until Michael's death & unprecedented $900 million dollars earned in 5 years).



And people like you can keep repeating something about nude photographs ,but if Michael Jackson would have anything considered child porn the Feds would have taken over & his behind would have been underneath a Federal prison. Stop boring me with stuff.


Now back to the simple damn point I was trying to make . Michael Jackson did not have a steady stream of accusers while he was alive( 2 or 3 & not damn near 20 like Bill Cosby). If anything Michael Jackson had a long stream of dozens or hundreds saying the complete opposite & that was absolutely nothing happened .

Bill Cosby has become a political symbol whose buffoonish statements about Blacks have caused some Whites to throw 20 women (mostly White women no less) under the bus to defend him.

Watch the Martin Bashir documentary. Michael Jackson, with his own mouth, admitted to sleeping in the same bed with all his little boy friends. You fanboys are the reason why scumbags like Cosby get away with their crimes for so long. Anyone with this much evidence against them would be hung by the balls. Not making millions in death:

-In MJ's bedroom, police found a nude photo of a boy he knew and was suspected of molesting. The boy's name was Jonathan Spence. The photo contained no sexual content, therefore making it legal to own, but it's extremely damning. The item was tagged as an item seized in the 1993 raid.

-MJ owned books of nude boys. These books were edited by convicted child sex offenders and boy lovers. the books were tagged as items seized in 1993 raid. They were presented in the 2005 trial.

-He had five accusers that we know of (Chandler, Arvizo, Fancia, and Robson).

-He pleaded the 5th when asked, under oath, if he molested children.*

-Aaron Carter said, at 15, he woke up to find MJ on his bed with him

-Corey Feldman said, at 13, MJ showed him a book of genitals.*

-Terry George said, at 13, MJ *********ed on the phone while speaking to him.

-Three people say they saw Wade molested by MJ. (Mariano Quindoy, Blanca Francia, and Charlie Michaels). They testified at the 2005 trial.

-Lead detective, Bill Dworin, said Jordan Chandler accurately described MJ's genitals. Wacko paid this boy and his family $25 million for their silence.

There's actually more hard evidence on MJ than Cosby. Fewer accusers though.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Feldman says he had such an encounter at Jackson's home when he says they stopped there on the way to Disneyland. "We went to his apartment, and I noticed a book that he had out on his coffee table. The book contained pictures of grown men and women naked. And the book was focused on venereal diseases and the genitalia." Feldman said the singer sat down with him and explained the photos to him.



"I don't know a lot of things that happened in the years I wasn't around, but all I can tell you is remarking about the person that I know, the person that was my close friend, that was like a brother to me. He was not that guy," Feldman told host Ricky Camilleri.


"He was a guy who was so innocent, so kind of sheltered, you couldn't even swear around him. You couldn't talk about drugs, you couldn't talk about nude women, you couldn't talk about sex. You couldn't talk about anything, because he was a very religious man for much of the early stages of his life and career."

AAron Carter seems to have backed off his claim as well...

[ThePhantomCreep]

AAron Carter seems to have backed off his claim as well...

Corey claims he was molested, but denies it was MJ. Still, his experience fits the pattern MJ established with some of his accusers.


Were you ever shown any images that were inappropriate?” Feldman responds, “If you consider it inappropriate for a man to look at a book of naked pictures with a child that’s 13 or 14 years old, then your answer would be yes.”

One example, Feldman said, was that Jackson had a book on his coffee table about “venereal diseases and the genitalia,” which the singer would show him pictures in and “discuss what those meant.”

“I was kind of grossed out by it,” Feldman said. “I didn’t think of it as a big deal. And for all these years, I probably never thought twice about it. But in light of recent evidence, I have to say that if my son was 14 years old, 13 years old, and went to a man’s apartment, and I knew that they were sitting down together talking about this, I would probably beat his ass.”

Carter backed off the claim he drank and got high with MJ as a minor, another part of MJ's MO. Dude was guilty, bottom line. Name ONE non-pedophile that shares a hotel room with an unrelated little boy? :biggums:

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Corey claims he was molested in his, but denies it was MJ. Still, his experience with MJ fits the pattern he established with some of the accusers.



Carter backed off the claim he drank and got high with MJ as a minor, another part of MJ's MO. Dude was guilty, bottom line. Name ONE non-pedophile that shares a hotel room with an unrelated little boy? :biggums:
Just because MJ was a weirdo, doesn't make him a pedophile. Honestly, I don't know what to believe. From my memory that family that got the $25 million settlement were super sketchy to say the least.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Just because MJ was a weirdo, doesn't make him a pedophile. Honestly, I don't know what to believe. From my memory that family that got the $25 million settlement were super sketchy to say the least.

Fair enough. I was on the fence for a long time, and I like the man's music, but there's just too much circumstantial evidence and sketchy behavior to overcome IMO.

Back to Cosby, I could buy one woman falsely accusing him. 20? That's too many.

[dude77]

so many ? which ones .. the only settlement I've heard about is the one from 2005 .. you don't have to take anything with a grain of salt here .. these stories have been going on for years and years .. comments here and there through the years .. all pointing to his creepy behavior .. unless you think all of these women have conspired to do this .. people outside and inside the acting world are talking about this guy .. smoke .. fire .. smoke .. fire


Hollywood is rife with sexual abuse, alcoholism, addiction, and who knows what kinda other crazy shit. some of it lurks underneath some of it doesn't. When a person gets on stage (or in front of a camera) and acts/plays out a role that's a part of a fictitious story, you have to suspend belief and take the art for what it is. for the most part, at least. but yeah not surprised when some of the most "lovable" people in showbiz have a dark or sadistic side to them.

pretty much this .. look at the stephen collins guy .. playing a religious do gooder father .. woody allen .. polanski .. this shit isn't an isolated thing .. so if cosby did do this, it's not surprising at all .. hell I almost expect it

[32jazz]

There are no whites defending Cosby's actions only some marveling at why the media has chosen to go after Cosby so aggressively when they are so many other people that are held up on pedestals by the media that also have sexual abuse stories around them. Of course these "whites", right leaning media who is really what we are talking about, are being purposely obtuse, because they refuse to recognize the sheer difference in the volume of stories against Cosby, and would love to tie in his sexual abuse accusations to other people they see as on the left, and protected by the media in their eyes.

Who is on this long list of Accused 'leftist' serial Rapists 'protected' by the media?

Lena Dunham(viewed as a 'Liberal') is a virtual unknown compared to Cosby ,but recently she was viciously attacked as a pedophile by Right Wing bloggers/nuts who made her childhood sexual curiosities a big issue. Did you miss all the vitriol aimed at her from these same people & the subsequent media coverage? Cancelled her book tour .


They can't defend drugging /raping of multiple women ,but they can viciously attack the credibility of nearly 20 women & dream up foolish leftwing conspiracy theories to ruin Cosby or put him in his place.

These women have nothing to gain & are coming out now not just to expose Cosby ,but defend the other women who are being attacked by a certain segment of the population.


The media reported this story years ago(Matt Lauer interviewed Tamara Green in 2005) ,but it died & no one really directly asked Cosby about it(he only released statements through lawyers).

If anything Cosby got the benefit of the doubt until Burress caused the story to go viral & people began wonder why the media never questioned Cosby . The media could barely ignore confronting Cosby any longer.

[32jazz]

There's actually more hard evidence on MJ than Cosby. Fewer accusers though.

Far fewer accusers (only 1 when it blew up but 20 for the world to give a further look at Cosby) was the point I was making before you went on a worthless rant .

I'm the reason people like Cosby & Michael Jackson get away?:oldlol:

Well I'm not one of the 'fanboys' in the FBI who know all of this stuff you wasted your time to post & let him get away uncharged.

I'm not one of the 'fanboys' of older jurors who "Literally' laughed Michael Jackson accuser out of a courtroom(they really laughed at & mocked the family ). And fanboys like Jay Leno, George Lopez & Tucker testified to them being scam artists not me.

Won't change my life one way or another what happens to either of these men , but I noticed how certain segments of the population are willing to give the benefit of the doubt to someone (Cosby) they see as a political symbol(or voices their prejudices).

Obviously Jackson was attracted to children. Whether it was emotional or physical or if it was acted upon I don't know.


You called Cosby 'scum'' in your post & sounds like you have convicted Bill Cosby as well? Nowhere in my post have I convicted Cosby either nor will I.

I'm only pointing out the witch hunt & lack thereof by some due to politics/prejudice.

[MavsSuperFan]

Every reasonable person should believe cosby is a rapist by now. Specifically his MO is to lure them in with his fame and promises of career advancement and then to drug them.

Some of these women tried to tell people cosby raped them but because of cosby's power they were ignored. Eg. according to one women she told her female agent, (who had introduced cosby to her) and her agent told her to stop lying and keep quite.

Janice Dickenson talked about the rape years ago on howard stern.

I have noticed online their are 3 types defending cosby.

1. Some in the Black community- these people are suspicious any time a black man is accused of raping a white woman. There bias is that society is set up to false accuse black men.

2. Conservative whites - These people admire black men like cosby that talk shit about other blacks in general. Cosby's whole thing about telling blacks to pull up their pants, get a job, rap music is destroying america, welfare/liberals destroyed the black family and most importantly that the problems in the black community are the fault of the black community is really appealing to some white conservatives.

Guys like tim scott, allen west, herman cain, etc also enjoy this type of popularity. Some black radio/internet personalities get donations off of white conservatives for preaching a similar message.

3. Mens rights activists/Elliot rodgers types - these guys think women always lie about being raped. Unless they see a video of a woman being raped they assume it was consensual and the woman changed her mind.

[tomtucker]

if she utters a word .. he is DONE


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Angel Heart !.......one of the best movies ever........

[Dresta]

Every reasonable person should believe cosby is a rapist by now. Specifically his MO is to lure them in with his fame and promises of career advancement and then to drug them.

Some of these women tried to tell people cosby raped them but because of cosby's power they were ignored. Eg. according to one women she told her female agent, (who had introduced cosby to her) and her agent told her to stop lying and keep quite.

Janice Dickenson talked about the rape years ago on howard stern.

I have noticed online their are 3 types defending cosby.

1. Some in the Black community- these people are suspicious any time a black man is accused of raping a white woman. There bias is that society is set up to false accuse black men.

2. Conservative whites - These people admire black men like cosby that talk shit about other blacks in general. Cosby's whole thing about telling blacks to pull up their pants, get a job, rap music is destroying america, welfare/liberals destroyed the black family and most importantly that the problems in the black community are the fault of the black community is really appealing to some white conservatives.

Guys like tim scott, allen west, herman cain, etc also enjoy this type of popularity. Some black radio/internet personalities get donations off of white conservatives for preaching a similar message.

3. Mens rights activists/Elliot rodgers types - these guys think women always lie about being raped. Unless they see a video of a woman being raped they assume it was consensual and the woman changed her mind.
How about Clinton then? There seem to have been rape incidents and accusations dogging the man his entire life, consistent MO from victims with no knowledge of one another etc.

Does your logic apply in the same way to the tools who still try to defend Clinton?

[SunsN07BookIt]

They can't defend drugging /raping of multiple women ,but they can viciously attack the credibility of nearly 20 women & dream up foolish leftwing conspiracy theories to ruin Cosby or put him in his place.

These women have nothing to gain & are coming out now not just to expose Cosby ,but defend the other women who are being attacked by a certain segment of the population.


Again, who is attacking the credibility of these women or defending Cosby? There are agenda driven people, who point out why the media is so taken with the Cosby story versus other cases, but as far as I know, there hasn't been anyone defending him despite a few headlines from biased sources trying to take people's words out of context to get the public's attention. Legitimate sources please, no biased or obscure media outlets please.

[ArbitraryWater]

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[Spell&Grammar]

do you believe Bill Cosby is a serial rapist?

Yo, when I be hearing Bill Cosby was a serial rapist, I thought dey mean cereal rapist. And I be like, "Yo Bill Cosby, why you be f-cking Captain Crunch..."

:roll:

Just a little homophone humor.





Spell&Grammar

[L.Kizzle]

Amazon just signed Woody Allen to a deal to create TV shows.

Yet Bill had Cosby Show reruns taken off the air ...

[LJJ]

I think it's pretty obvious to everybody that the accusations against Allen are fabrications by his salty ex.

[L.Kizzle]

I think it's pretty obvious to everybody that the accusations against Allen are fabrications by his salty ex.
That's fine, but all the Cosby stories are also accusations.

I'm just saying it's weird that Woody is getting a deal right now with all the Cosby stuff still going on.

[LJJ]

I think you can see the difference between one single unproven accusation against Allan that already went through the judicial process during a bitter custody battle more than 20 years ago and was a controversy at that time, and accusations from more than 20 different women against Cosby that are a big controversy right now. I don't get what's so weird.

[NumberSix]

Companies still work with Roman Polanski. A man who drugged and raped a 13 year old.

So yeah, it's a little weird how there is 0 tolerance for Cosby because of unproven allegations.

[L.Kizzle]

I think you can see the difference between one single unproven accusation against Allan that already went through the judicial process during a bitter custody battle more than 20 years ago and was a controversy at that time, and accusations from more than 20 different women against Cosby that are a big controversy right now. I don't get what's so weird.
It shouldn't matter if it's one woman or 22 (I think they're up to 22) it's accusations. We should still be able to watch Cosby Show reruns until something official happens.

If he can still work his stand up shows why are they taking his TV show off the air and canceling his Netflix special?

And the Allen signing comes at a time when a fellow comic is in the news, it is weird timing wouldn't you say?