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9erempiree
11-21-2014, 07:10 PM
George Karl subbed Kobe out because he was playing well and stealing the show in MJ's last all star game. The game was close till Kobe sat out and the East went on to win.

Don't know why Karl benched the best player on the court in a close game, for the East to go on and win.

Here is MJ saying he didn't want to get dominated by Kobe.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD2y2wVGd-U

You can find the game yourself because it is all over the net and start watching in the 2nd half. Dumb move on Karl but I can see why he didn't want an 18 year old steal the show and perhaps winning the game on the same court with MJ.

SamuraiSWISH
11-21-2014, 07:11 PM
When old, fadeaway MJ embarrassed young Kobe one on one @ MSG.

:applause:

Smoke117
11-21-2014, 07:16 PM
When old, fadeaway MJ embarrassed young Kobe one on one @ MSG.

:applause:

In general...you can go kill yourself. In this case...we find common ground. :applause:

Crystallas
11-21-2014, 07:22 PM
I couldn't imagine living with the mental disorder to constantly obsess over how playerA and playerB compares. I mean, this is a regular thing with the same exact posters.

You need serious help.

PHILA
11-21-2014, 07:24 PM
George Karl subbed Kobe out
http://www.theshadowleague.com/articles/the-incredible-life-and-trying-basketball-times-of-kobe-bryant-pt-1

In 1998, Kobe would be chosen for the first of 15 NBA All-Star games and would score 18 points, leading the West in scoring. However, it was the Michael Jordan-led Eastern Conference that would emerge victorious by a score of 132-120.

The game brought increased infamy to Bryant, as many pegged him as being selfish and representing all that was wrong with the NBA. He was considered too young, too brash, and an unwilling passer. It was also the year in which Bryant infamously waved off a screen from Karl Malone to take Jordan one-on-one. "When young guys tell me to get out of the way," said Malone after the game, "that's a game I don't need to be in."

Droid101
11-21-2014, 07:26 PM
It was also the year in which Bryant infamously waved off a screen from Karl Malone to take Jordan one-on-one. "When young guys tell me to get out of the way," said Malone after the game, "that's a game I don't need to be in."
So damn alpha. :bowdown:

MastaKilla
11-21-2014, 07:35 PM
http://www.theshadowleague.com/articles/the-incredible-life-and-trying-basketball-times-of-kobe-bryant-pt-1

In 1998, Kobe would be chosen for the first of 15 NBA All-Star games and would score 18 points, leading the West in scoring. However, it was the Michael Jordan-led Eastern Conference that would emerge victorious by a score of 132-120.

The game brought increased infamy to Bryant, as many pegged him as being selfish and representing all that was wrong with the NBA. He was considered too young, too brash, and an unwilling passer. It was also the year in which Bryant infamously waved off a screen from Karl Malone to take Jordan one-on-one. "When young guys tell me to get out of the way," said Malone after the game, "that's a game I don't need to be in."

wow so alpha :bowdown: :bowdown:

3ball
11-21-2014, 07:49 PM
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people remember this game as kobe playing well against MJ, even though he didn't score on MJ even one time - otoh, Jordan scored ON kobe numerous times in this game, to the point where he was laughing at the youngster (the third gif below).


http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/68034e09823e4a5c9dc67d6f58d98f93.gif


http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/e235c3626f894f70c41c231bb8e2d988.gif


http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/abee952a1a7179fcbf553bb8aab9c7fb.gif


http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/418312510bb13a1e2f5ae9808c83ce48.gif


and if you look at Jordan vs. Kobe over the years, Jordan scored ON kobe a super-ton...

whereas kobe scored ON jordan literally 3, maybe 4 times in his entire career... as usual, jordan with the substance.
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nnn123
11-21-2014, 08:12 PM
http://www.theshadowleague.com/articles/the-incredible-life-and-trying-basketball-times-of-kobe-bryant-pt-1

In 1998, Kobe would be chosen for the first of 15 NBA All-Star games and would score 18 points, leading the West in scoring. However, it was the Michael Jordan-led Eastern Conference that would emerge victorious by a score of 132-120.

The game brought increased infamy to Bryant, as many pegged him as being selfish and representing all that was wrong with the NBA. He was considered too young, too brash, and an unwilling passer. It was also the year in which Bryant infamously waved off a screen from Karl Malone to take Jordan one-on-one. "When young guys tell me to get out of the way," said Malone after the game, "that's a game I don't need to be in."

This punk Karl Malone. Dude it's a freaking all-star game, why so salty?

IncarceratedBob
11-21-2014, 08:14 PM
finals mvp, regular season mvp vs basically rook kobe..

3ball
11-21-2014, 08:59 PM
Damn.. just watched that clip OP posted. I thought OP was lying, but MJ actually did say he was glad he didn't get dominated by Kobe (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD2y2wVGd-U#t=122).. the utter relief. Little did he know that years later, Kobe would output a half for the ages vs him. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSaKPHSEtRM) :lol
jordan never guarded kobe for even one possession in kobe's 55 point game - it was 100% Stackhouse guarding Kobe.

point me to ONE clip in that game where kobe scored on Jordan.

and why bring up him challenging MJ in the all-star game, when he didn't score on him even one time, and Jordan scored on him a ton?

jordan scored on kobe a ton of times, while kobe never scored on jordan but twice in his entire career.

russwest0
11-21-2014, 09:01 PM
even rookie kobe was still twice as alpha as todays "best" player in the game :lol :lol :lol

3ball
11-21-2014, 09:04 PM
even rookie kobe was still twice as alpha as todays "best" player in the game :lol :lol :lol
this is very true..

i remember when iverson had the same attitude vs jordan - and iverson actually TOOK jordan and scored ON him the one time he had the chance.

MastaKilla
11-21-2014, 09:07 PM
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e246/J_K/KobeoverJordangif_zps7134594b.gif (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/J_K/media/KobeoverJordangif_zps7134594b.gif.html)

3ball
11-21-2014, 09:11 PM
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e246/J_K/KobeoverJordangif_zps7134594b.gif (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/J_K/media/KobeoverJordangif_zps7134594b.gif.html)
4 for Jordan, only 1 for Kobe... what else is new.

this is one of the two times in Kobe's entire career, that he TOOK Jordan - scored ON him when he was jordan's immediate assignment.

3ball
11-21-2014, 09:12 PM
kobe has TAKEN jordan twice in his entire career - the above gif being one of them.

whereas, jordan has TAKEN kobe more than 15 times different times - 4 times in the 1998 all-star game alone.

Asukal
11-21-2014, 09:19 PM
Jordan at 35 = best player in the league. :applause:

Kobe at 36 = inefficient chucker. :oldlol:

VIP2000
11-21-2014, 09:43 PM
Eh, why was Kobe even at the All-Star game that year?

He averaged 15.8 ppg off the bench that year. I mean, really good numbers for a 2nd year 6th man but he was starting on the All-Star team when he didn't even start for his own team.

I know, I know. He was voted in.

MastaKilla
11-21-2014, 09:56 PM
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e246/J_K/Kobe%20beats%20Jordan%20off%20dribble_zpspfgoyi8r. gif (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/J_K/media/Kobe%20beats%20Jordan%20off%20dribble_zpspfgoyi8r. gif.html)


18 YO vs league MVP

MastaKilla
11-21-2014, 09:58 PM
would be an and1 in todays game. weight room..

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e246/J_K/DunkonJordanampPippen_zps71585104.gif (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/J_K/media/DunkonJordanampPippen_zps71585104.gif.html)

MastaKilla
11-21-2014, 10:00 PM
two of the best perimeter defenders of their day can't stop 18 yo old Kobe on the drive

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e246/J_K/kobeupandundercomplete_zps5d4b68e3.gif (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/J_K/media/kobeupandundercomplete_zps5d4b68e3.gif.html)

3ball
11-21-2014, 10:01 PM
i'm going to post all the FG's of jordan scoring ON kobe.

see with jordan, it's easy to post substance - no need to post weak fly-bys or reach in's where kobe 1) wasn't really guarding him, 2) was only the help defender not the primary, 3) or fell asleep and let him go back door for an easy one.

no need to post weak stuff like that - jordan has tons of highlights of him making a move and TAKING kobe and scoring ON him mono-a-mono... whereas, kobe has truly TAKEN Jordan twice in his entire career.
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MastaKilla
11-21-2014, 10:04 PM
i'm going to post all the FG's of jordan scoring ON kobe.

see with jordan, it's easy to post substance - no need to post weak fly-bys or reach in's where kobe wasn't really guarding him, was only the help defender not the primary, or fell asleep and let him go back door for an easy one.

jordan has tons of highlights of him making a move and TAKING kobe and scoring ON him... kobe has scored ON Jordan twice in his entire career.

you're going to post gifs of the league MVP scoring on a teenager?

:lol :lol

YOU ARE SHOOK

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
11-21-2014, 10:06 PM
you're going to post gifs of the league MVP scoring on a teenager?

:lol :lol

YOU ARE SHOOK

You had no problem showcasing Bryant's scoring highlights. Surely you don't take issue w/ someone low-lighting his defense? :lol :confusedshrug:

(inb4 3ball goes super saiyan w/ gifs)

3ball
11-21-2014, 10:09 PM
i'm going to post all the FG's of jordan scoring ON kobe.

see with jordan, it's easy to post substance - no need to post weak fly-bys or reach in's where kobe wasn't really guarding him, was only the help defender not the primary, or fell asleep and let him go back door for an easy one.

jordan has tons of highlights of him making a move and TAKING kobe and scoring ON him... kobe has scored ON Jordan twice in his entire career.



you're going to post gifs of the league MVP scoring on a teenager?

YOU ARE SHOOK


nah... not going to bother... there are better things to post about - everyone knows jordan > kobe.

i really just wanted to make a point that in kobe's entire career, he has taken jordan mono-a-mono twice, one of which is posted at the top of this page.

jordan took kobe mono-a-mono 4 times in the 1998 all-star game alone (gifs of each posted on the first page), and scored on him mono-a-mono over 15 times in the few times they met.

STATUTORY
11-21-2014, 10:10 PM
I remember the game where teenage Kobe dropped 40+ on 3peat MJ, literally made MJ plead for pippen to take on Kobe, "get on him scottie" MJ yelled in a desperate and hoarse voice

also remember when Kobe dropped 50+ on MJ and when phil took Kobe out just to preserve the little shred of dignity and self respect MJ had remaining. That game ended MJ's attempt at comeback

MastaKilla
11-21-2014, 10:11 PM
You had no problem showcasing Bryant's scoring highlights. Surely you don't take issue w/ someone low-lighting his defense? :lol :confusedshrug:

(inb4 3ball goes super saiyan w/ gifs)

what's so great about the league mvp scoring on a teenager? that's to be expected..

but a teenager scoring on the league mvp is a bigger deal.. no :confusedshrug:

jordan stans catching feelings off a couple gifs :roll:

3ball
11-21-2014, 10:12 PM
I remember the game where teenage Kobe dropped 40+ on 3peat MJ, literally made MJ plead for pippen to take on Kobe, "get on him scottie" MJ yelled in a desperate and hoarse voice

also remember when Kobe dropped 50+ on MJ and when phil took Kobe out just to preserve the little shred of dignity and self respect MJ had remaining. That game ended MJ's attempt at comeback
i'm being trolled now - i'll go along with it... :lol

not one point from kobe's 55 point game vs the wizards was scored on MJ... not one point... stackhouse guarded kobe the entire time.

the footage is there - so point me to a point in the youtube where kobe scores on MJ.
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MastaKilla
11-21-2014, 10:16 PM
i'm being trolled now - i'll go along... :lol

not one point from that game was scored on MJ... not one point... stackhouse guarded kobe the entire time.

the footage is there - so point me to the point in the youtube where kobe scores on MJ.

and why was this? Because Jordan couldn't keep up, i mean he had a hard time keeping up against HS Kobe while Jordan himself was the league MVP..

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
11-21-2014, 10:17 PM
what's so great about the league mvp scoring on a teenager? that's to be expected..

but a teenager scoring on the league mvp is a bigger deal.. no :confusedshrug:

jordan stans catching feelings off a couple gifs :roll:

35 y/o past his prime Mike...scoring on another all-star like he ain't even there shouldn't be praised?

http://i.imgur.com/k5MJnFU.gif

MastaKilla
11-21-2014, 10:19 PM
35 y/o past his prime Mike...scoring on another all-star like he ain't even there shouldn't be praised?

http://i.imgur.com/k5MJnFU.gif

if you really take comfort in Jordan scoring on a HS kid then :applause:

just shows the greatness of Kobe even him as a 19 year old guarding the league MVP can be used against him :bowdown:

MastaKilla
11-21-2014, 10:20 PM
It's funny how the "ultimate alpha" Jordan would just sit back and let his team get lit up for 42 points by Kobe in two quarters..why not step up and take the challenge to guard him yourself?

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
11-21-2014, 10:24 PM
if you really take comfort in Jordan scoring on a HS kid then :applause:

just shows the greatness of Kobe even him as a 19 year old guarding the league MVP can be used against him :bowdown:

That was a second year, all-star verz of Kobe, right? You apostles worship Bean by posting gifs of him scoring a couple points on Mike, but when the shoe is on the other foot, its "b-butt highschool kobe doe". :lol

I dont got time to play ring around the rosie with you clowns.. :facepalm

MastaKilla
11-21-2014, 10:30 PM
That was a second year, all-star verz of Kobe, right? You apostles worship Bean by posting gifs of him scoring a couple points on Mike, but when the shoe is on the other foot, its "b-butt highschool kobe doe". :lol

I dont got time to play ring around the rosie with you clowns.. :facepalm

nobody askin you to "play" you brought yourself into this conversation and you can see your way out of it fvck boy

Kobe fans never say anything about Kobe being elite in 98, it's pretty well known that he didn't really become elite until 2000.

if im gonna pull up gifs of a player getting scored on, i'm not gonna be pulling up gifs of him gettting scored on as a rookie, when he was guarding the best player in the league as if that actually proves some type of point

3ball
11-21-2014, 10:56 PM
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i left out a Jordan FG on Kobe from the 1998 all-star game - so below are five FG's for Jordan on Kobe from that one game.

Kobe had no scores on Jordan, yet somehow he's ballyhooed because he got a couple open dunks, and showed some teenage swag.. :facepalm


http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/f1250e611e8bf1e7e4d8da207ac2fc84.gif.... this is the one i left out originally


http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/68034e09823e4a5c9dc67d6f58d98f93.gif


http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/e235c3626f894f70c41c231bb8e2d988.gif


http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/abee952a1a7179fcbf553bb8aab9c7fb.gif.. Jordan laughing at Kobe after the shot.. too easy


http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/418312510bb13a1e2f5ae9808c83ce48.gif... shaq having to save the young fella... :facepalm:

3ball
11-22-2014, 12:25 AM
^^^^^^^^ 5 field goals of Jordan mono-a-mono on Kobe, none of Kobe on Jordan.

i'm just saying, like, the headlines should have read "Jordan Schools Youngster".

G0ATbe
11-22-2014, 12:46 AM
Wow so Jordan dropped 5 FGs on Teenagerbe?:eek:
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/2254892/kobe-block-jordan-mad-o.gif
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/2254892/kobe-block-jordan-mad-o.gif
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/2254892/kobe-block-jordan-mad-o.gif
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/2254892/kobe-block-jordan-mad-o.gif
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/2254892/kobe-block-jordan-mad-o.gif


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puoruHE7aHk:roll: :roll: :roll:

juju151111
11-22-2014, 12:53 AM
One thing I want to know is what Kobe did 96-98 but choke and throw up airball s.

SamuraiSWISH
11-22-2014, 01:39 AM
35 year old MJ literally abused All Star Kobe in ISO situations in 1998.

Meanwhile peak 24 year old Kobe dropped 55 on Stackhouse, and Larry Hughes on a team that featured literally, 40 year old Michael Jordan. And Kobe stans turn this into a pissing contest making the claim it was exclusively on Mike? Um ok. I'll take that L.

End of the day, Kobe's top ten all-time, and the greatest SG since MJ. His little derivative clone. It's not like prime MJ had 60 dropped on him by a guy like Arenas or something.

Da_Realist
02-09-2015, 01:14 AM
Larry Bird remembers when Michael Jordan took on Kobe Bryant (http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/larry-bird-remembers-when-michael-jordan-took-on-kobe-bryant-1.9918029)

KyleKong
02-09-2015, 01:20 AM
http://www.theshadowleague.com/articles/the-incredible-life-and-trying-basketball-times-of-kobe-bryant-pt-1

In 1998, Kobe would be chosen for the first of 15 NBA All-Star games and would score 18 points, leading the West in scoring. However, it was the Michael Jordan-led Eastern Conference that would emerge victorious by a score of 132-120.

The game brought increased infamy to Bryant, as many pegged him as being selfish and representing all that was wrong with the NBA. He was considered too young, too brash, and an unwilling passer. It was also the year in which Bryant infamously waved off a screen from Karl Malone to take Jordan one-on-one. "When young guys tell me to get out of the way," said Malone after the game, "that's a game I don't need to be in."

O snap.

supernova5912
02-09-2015, 02:34 AM
That was a second year, all-star verz of Kobe, right? You apostles worship Bean by posting gifs of him scoring a couple points on Mike, but when the shoe is on the other foot, its "b-butt highschool kobe doe". :lol

I dont got time to play ring around the rosie with you clowns.. :facepalm

Let me get this straight, you think it isn't impressive that a 19 year old sophomore off the bench scored on the league's best player but you think that people should be impressed with the MVP, who averaged 28.7 points a game, scoring on a bench player? :wtf:

julizaver
02-09-2015, 03:19 AM
Kobe was 19 years old, not 18. And while MJ put a solid performance we shall give credit for Kobe doing the most spectacular moves (360 dunk, alley-opp and behind the back for hook shot made). It was an All-Star game and it was all about the show. As it is today, no difference. The All-Star game is very rare competitive. That'w why I do not paid a lot of attention to all-star performances. It is all for the show - it is not for players like Dirk Nowitzki or Tim Dunkan :lol

I was wondering also during the game why Karl benched Kobe in th 4th and it looks realy like as if they are saving it for Jordan to win MVP. What Kobe do was the abovementioned electrifying plays which brought the crowd to its feet.

But as I mentioned already for All-Star game is just for fun. There is no real value for me in winning the MVP award in that game. It is happen sometimes one or two of the stars to be more motivated for some personal reasons, (as Pippen in 1994), but overall there is litteraly no defence and very rare the game is really competive.

TonyMontana
02-09-2015, 03:20 AM
The most nostalgic part of this is remembering that guys actually used to try in the all-star game. It used to be one of the great american sporting events.

I havn't wasted my time watching it in years.

9erempiree
02-09-2015, 09:18 PM
http://youtu.be/ZD2y2wVGd-U?t=2m3s

:lol