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juju151111
11-22-2014, 12:51 AM
He normally makes every layup no matter the contact. I didn't think this would happen to him until ar least 33, but he seems to be regressing in that department at least.

Ca$H
11-22-2014, 12:53 AM
No longer on HGH due to HGH testing.

lilteapot
11-22-2014, 12:53 AM
seems to be getting gassed really easily this season. dunno honestly, maybe he didn't work on his conditioning enough in the offseason.

HOoopCityJones
11-22-2014, 01:50 AM
Somethings up with his handles too.

SamuraiSWISH
11-22-2014, 01:52 AM
No longer on HGH due to HGH testing.
This or back injury.

Explains the sudden loss of dramatic explosion, and lift that makes him so unguardable as a physical specimen.

Which means he isn't exploding to the basket, and without his leaping ability isn't finishing around the rim consistently.

Where did those 50+ FG% games go since arriving in Cleveland? It always was fools gold. All of it was transition dunks set up by superior defense in Miami.

Also his FG% in Miami was boosted by the intelligence of Wade off the ball keeping the defense honest. Kyrie, Waiters are more concerned with dribble ... dribble ... dribble shot jack.


seems to be getting gassed really easily this season. dunno honestly, maybe he didn't work on his conditioning enough in the offseason.
Your dumb ass swore everything was absolutely fine. No drop off athletically or endurance wise.

SMH ...

SugarHill
11-22-2014, 02:00 AM
This or back injury.

Explains the sudden loss of dramatic explosion, and lift that makes him so unguardable as a physical specimen.

Which means he isn't exploding to the basket, and without his leaping ability isn't finishing around the rim consistently.

Where did those 50+ FG% games go since arriving in Cleveland? It always was fools gold. All of it was transition dunks set up by superior defense in Miami.

Also his FG% in Miami was boosted by the intelligence of Wade off the ball keeping the defense honest. Kyrie, Waiters are more concerned with dribble ... dribble ... dribble shot jack.


Your dumb ass swore everything was absolutely fine. No drop off athletically or endurance wise.

SMH ...

He did 30 on 50% in Cleveland doe

SamuraiSWISH
11-22-2014, 02:02 AM
He did 30 on 50% in Cleveland doe
You never contribute anything of substance to basketball discussion. Just sarcasm and forced humor 24/7. Why are you here moe? Go to the Off Topic lounge.

juju151111
11-22-2014, 02:03 AM
He did 30 on 50% in Cleveland doe
He was way superior athletic ly back then tho. He was every on defense and offense. Sprinting back on defense after makes. This is why I always say I would take 09 LJ over them all. I would sacrifice the slightly better shooting from 13 LJ.

HOoopCityJones
11-22-2014, 02:06 AM
He was way superior athletic ly back then tho. He was every on defense and offense. Sprinting back on defense after makes. This is why I always say I would take 09 LJ over them all. I would sacrifice the slightly better shooting from 13 LJ.

This.

About three different times tonight you saw Lebron come up short at the basket then look completely drained as he pondered having to run up back the court and play D while his entire Team beat him back.

I hope someone has the Gifs.

SugarHill
11-22-2014, 02:07 AM
You never contribute anything of substance to basketball discussion. Just sarcasm and forced humor 24/7. Why are you here moe? Go to the Off Topic lounge.

Why are you on your period? That is a fact and absolutely ontopic.

You negged on 3 accounts. Christ. haha

SamuraiSWISH
11-22-2014, 02:13 AM
Why are you on your period? That is a fact and absolutely ontopic.

You negged on 3 accounts. Christ. haha
You offer nothing of substance on basketball related topics. No I didn't neg you. And I always sign my negs so people know who gave it to them. I don't have multiple accounts, either and don't have time for that ish to begin with.

Warfan
11-22-2014, 02:13 AM
This.

About three different times tonight you saw Lebron come up short at the basket then look completely drained as he pondered having to run up back the court and play D while his entire Team beat him back.

I hope someone has the Gifs.

Yeah his body language was shit tonight, id be very disappointed if I were a cavs fan. If he wants to be the leader of the team, he has to actually lead, not just tell everyone you are a leader.

https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/03DF2E258D1147776863570173952_32ee44a1925.0.1.6487 327923735458426.mp4?versionId=YSoNw2aEojnvRotVNcEL 6DodAiAjDOTY

:facepalm

SugarHill
11-22-2014, 02:16 AM
You offer nothing of substance on basketball related topics. No I didn't neg you. And I always sign my negs so people know who gave it to them. I don't have multiple accounts, either and don't have time for that ish to begin with.

You're sitting here talking about HGH and LeBron's efficiency being purely a systematic creation and that's all I really care to discuss. Whatever bipolar tendencies you hold that makes you lash out is none of my concern so keep your garbage to yourself.

PsychoBe
11-22-2014, 02:16 AM
we can neg now?

JT123
11-22-2014, 02:24 AM
You're sitting here talking about HGH and LeBron's efficiency being purely a systematic creation and that's all I really care to discuss. Whatever bipolar tendencies you hold that makes you lash out is none of my concern so keep your garbage to yourself.
Swish getting shit on. :lol

HOoopCityJones
11-22-2014, 02:25 AM
You're sitting here talking about HGH and LeBron's efficiency being purely a systematic creation and that's all I really care to discuss. Whatever bipolar tendencies you hold that makes you lash out is none of my concern so keep your garbage to yourself.

Stop catching feelings moe because he's talking about your boyfriend Lebron. It's not like he's talking bullshit, the cat looks different.

SamuraiSWISH
11-22-2014, 02:26 AM
You're sitting here talking about HGH and LeBron's efficiency being purely a systematic creation
I said his absurd Miami FG% was systematic. You retorted with his pre 2011 FG%.

He's had high FG percentage on great volume before, pre Miami. In the 47 - 50% range which is phenomenal on 27 - 31 ppg volume. That's ideal for a perimeter superstar.

I'm talking about the gaudy, padded, system created FG% he had in Miami that was pushing 60% from the field at times. It was a fraud.

This season in Cleveland is total proof of that as well. That's all I was getting at ... the LeBron stans who hyped up his efficiency exclusively for the Prius, skinny jeans, fedora, lenseless glasses, latte drinking generation as if tat was the shining example of his greatness.

Even though that FG% plummeted off a cliff the second the playoffs hit.

chazzy
11-22-2014, 02:51 AM
I don't have any numbers to back this up, but his half court finishing ability at the rim took a step back from his Cavs days 2 or 3 years ago. But Miami generated so many fast break opportunities that it wasn't reflected in his at-rim FG%. That's why I've always maintained that he was at his peak ability as a Cav.

Mr. Jabbar
11-22-2014, 02:57 AM
I don't have any numbers to back this up, but his half court finishing ability at the rim took a step back from his Cavs days 2 or 3 years ago. But Miami generated so many fast break opportunities that it wasn't reflected in his at-rim FG%. That's why I've always maintained that he was at his peak ability as a Cav.

exactly :applause:

miamis D led to so many fast breaks, it was their main strengh, i was never impressed by their half court offense. cavs on the other hand get scored on every single posesion :roll:

if they could get some stops the love assist to sprinting bran would be lethal

Dresta
11-22-2014, 09:25 AM
This or back injury.

Explains the sudden loss of dramatic explosion, and lift that makes him so unguardable as a physical specimen.

Which means he isn't exploding to the basket, and without his leaping ability isn't finishing around the rim consistently.

Where did those 50+ FG% games go since arriving in Cleveland? It always was fools gold. All of it was transition dunks set up by superior defense in Miami.

Also his FG% in Miami was boosted by the intelligence of Wade off the ball keeping the defense honest. Kyrie, Waiters are more concerned with dribble ... dribble ... dribble shot jack.


We're seeing that the high efficiency of Bron clearly had a lot to do with playing with Wade, despite the incessant claims by idiot Bron stans that it was Lebron making everyone else more efficient.

Funny then, that Bron's efficiency has fallen off a cliff, whereas Wade's hasn't changed much at all, and he's shot 50+% in every game but one.

Indian guy
11-22-2014, 10:29 AM
He's just not getting up, it's that simple. His vertical this season from last has been cut in half. But that's not the only issue. I thought his quickness was pretty good last week, but he has looked awful on that front the last 2 games too.

G0ATbe
11-22-2014, 10:31 AM
Because he's not good.

STATUTORY
11-22-2014, 10:37 AM
like i said in the very beginning of the season, and really after all star break last year. the guy is DONE. visibly exited his prime right in front of our eyes

take away Lebron's hops and top speed with his long strides and what do you have left?
good passing, good court vision, but a player with no iso game, clunky mechanics and off balanced jumpshot, no post game, no ability to compromise defense at ALL

that is the black Luke Walton, nothing more.

I give him 3 more years in this league. The guy is putting up numbers based on his reputation and smoke and mirrors right now.

But teams have actually caught on, they are not even doubling him anymore. As a result he cant cheese his assists off the double

hes absolutely a detriment to his team RIGHT NOW

HOoopCityJones
11-22-2014, 10:58 AM
Lebron looks like he just remembered how to get tired or something.

Hmm...