I didn't get to watch any games last night, but apparently Louis Williams...

[sammichoffate]

Outscored the ENTIRE Cavs bench by himself? :biggums:

[Legends66NBA7]

Career high too.

Safe to say that he has no more problems with his ACL injury.

[sammichoffate]

Career high too.

Safe to say that he has no more problems with his ACL injury.What does that say about how bad the Cavs defense is? :facepalm Also, Raptors suddenly seem legit af if he can average even 40% of that :eek:

[AKADS]

Lou has played great this season. And the Raptors really let him play to his strengths.

To think. He was traded for John Salmons contract.

[Fudge]

AND the Cavs have one of the best benches in the NBA.

Dude was just torching everybody that was defending him. Waiters, Irving, LeBron, etc.

[andremiller07]

What does that say about how bad the Cavs defense is? :facepalm Also, Raptors suddenly seem legit af if he can average even 40% of that :eek:
Lou Williams in his Philly days was as devastating bench scorer as there has been in the NBA. Seems like he's coming back to that.

[sammichoffate]

Lou Williams in his Philly days was as devastating bench scorer as there has been in the NBA. Seems like he's coming back to that.Not gonna lie, Toronto is looking pretty scary if they can **** a team like the Cavs like last night :eek:

[Legends66NBA7]

Not gonna lie, Toronto is looking pretty scary if they can **** a team like the Cavs like last night :eek:

Cleveland isn't playing good basketball.

Wins over Washington and Memphis were more impressive. True, Memphis didn't have their bench guys that night but their core (Gasol - Randolph - Conley) almost won them the game. Even the game against Boston on the road was more impressive considering the Raps didn't Amir and Val, while the Raps were on a back to back.

[J Shuttlesworth]

AND the Cavs have one of the best benches in the NBA.

Dude are you retarded? They are quite literally the worst bench in the NBA

30th in scoring
26th in rebounding
30th in assists
27th in FG%
30th in efficiency rating,
30th in in defensive efficiency

If you think that's one of the best benches in the NBA, you must have been severely dropped on the head as a baby

[Fudge]

Dude are you retarded? They are quite literally the worst bench in the NBA

30th in scoring
26th in rebounding
30th in assists
27th in FG%
30th in efficiency rating,
30th in in defensive efficiency

If you think that's one of the best benches in the NBA, you must have been severely dropped on the head as a baby
Tristan Thompson
Mike Miller
Dion Waiters
Joe Harris

:facepalm

NUFF said.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Tristan Thompson
Mike Miller
Dion Waiters
Joe Harris

:facepalm

NUFF said.
Have you watched any of these dudes play this year? The only one who has been remotely decent in Tristan Thompson

You can't say they're one of the best benches when they're the worst performing bench in the league. It's simple as that.

[Qwyjibo]

Tristan Thompson
Mike Miller
Dion Waiters
Joe Harris

:facepalm

NUFF said.
You named one competent player. Their bench is awful. Plus they have the corpse of Shawn Marion starting. That's why there is so little margin for error for Lebron, Love and Kyrie.

[Fudge]

You can't say they're one of the best benches when they're the worst performing bench in the league. It's simple as that.
Nope, too much stars on their team for them to fully reach their potential as a bench unit.

Still sooOoo much talent, they're just being badly utilized.

I should have said one of the most talented, not best.

[Legends66NBA7]

Dude are you retarded? They are quite literally the worst bench in the NBA

30th in scoring
26th in rebounding
30th in assists
27th in FG%
30th in efficiency rating,
30th in in defensive efficiency

If you think that's one of the best benches in the NBA, you must have been severely dropped on the head as a baby

Got a link for this ?

What's Toronto's bench ranking in all this ?

[J Shuttlesworth]

Nope, too much stars on their team for them to fully reach their potential as a bench unit.

Still sooOoo much talent, they're just being badly utilized.

I should have said one of the most talented, not best.
What do the stars on their team have to do with them as a bench unit? If they are a great bench, they should shine when LeBron/Love/Irving are off the floor.. but they don't. You can't say superstars are holding them back when they are the bench unit.

2 games ago, they only scored 2 points through 3 quarters. That is not one of the best benches, or most talented. Reggie Jackson himself is putting up better numbers than the entire cleveland bench combined.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Got a link for this ?

What's Toronto's bench ranking in all this ?
http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/teamstats/14/7/diffeff/1-1

Raptors:

6th offensive efficiency
2nd defensive eff
7th pts
10th reb
10th assists

[Legends66NBA7]

http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/teamstats/14/7/diffeff/1-1

Raptors:

6th offensive efficiency
2nd defensive eff
7th pts
10th reb
10th assists

2nd in defensive efficiency is the most impressive stat, considering what I've seen. You're bench unit is out there primarily to add more scoring punch and the Raptors don't have a rim protector (playing regularly) coming off the bench. It's usually Hansbrough-Patterson as the first bigs off the bench. I would like to see Stiemsma or Hayes more at C. In more versatile times, play Patterson at C and James Johnson at the PF spot off the bench.

I'm just waiting for this bench to be properly utilized. That's when they can be even more potent.

[SAKOTXA]

You named one competent player. Their bench is awful. Plus they have the corpse of Shawn Marion starting. That's why there is so little margin for error for Lebron, Love and Kyrie.
He was an average role player last year... Averaging 10/6 and playing OK defense at 35 years old. Lebron makes everybody better.

Oh and i almost forgot...

http://cdn1.sbnation.com/imported_assets/737001/MARIONBEAT.gif.pagespeed.ce.OV2bxjYXuv.gif

[Qwyjibo]

Marion did look fine last year. He's just a horrible fit in that starting lineup. The Cavs have a gaping hole at SG where they desperately need perimeter shooting. Although Love is supposed to give them that and he's not stepping up yet.

[heyhey]

Lebron makes everyone better, especially on the opposing team