Show me a SOCCER player as athletic as this guy...

[Im Still Ballin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNReN6hMmeQ
Or even come close to being as athletic as this guy. Take note. I'm not talking about skills here. Or conditioning.

ATHLETICISM.

[Bless Mathews]

Dayum.

Could you imagine dat buff ass niggah swinging a stick wit all his strength on a 4 year old?

[sweggeh]

Can he do this doe?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vmm-xCq4To

[Im Still Ballin]

Skill wise? very impressive.

But athleticism wise? He's just a midget running at a decent speed that any NFL player could match.

[sweggeh]

Skill wise? very impressive.

But athleticism wise? He's just a midget running at a decent speed that any NFL player could match.

Football has some of the fastest sports stars in the world. Guys like Theo Walcott were on their way to the Olympics in sprinting before they chose football. Pierre Emerick Aubameyang has a faster first 30m than Usain Bolt.

Also Theirry was no slouch back in the day either..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jw0-cWvmwKA

[Im Still Ballin]

Every sport has their bit of elite. NFL's top end and average are just higher IMO

Throw on 50 more pounds of solid muscle and i doubt any of those soccer speedsters could keep up with the NFL speedsters.

[dannywpt]

It seems you have athletic ability confused with explosiveness

[sweggeh]

Every sport has their bit of elite. NFL's top end and average are just higher IMO

Throw on 50 more pounds of solid muscle and i doubt any of those soccer speedsters could keep up with the NFL speedsters.

Well they could if they trained to do so. But they don't because it is borderline useless in their sport. Also lets not pretend there aren't huge guys in football like Yaya Toure who are big as **** but can run very fast.

[dude77]

2:32 bicep curling 405 lbs ? lol .. gtfoh .. nice editing

[Blue&Orange]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNReN6hMmeQ
Or even come close to being as athletic as this guy. Take note. I'm not talking about skills here. Or conditioning.

ATHLETICISM.
What's your point? American football is a dumb skilless sport, you just need to pump those PED's to be successful?

We already know that.

[Im Still Ballin]

NFL has the elite of the elite genetic specimens. How many others sports will you find a guy like Calvin Johnson? Maybe basketball and rugby or volleyball but thats it.

In the end it depends on how you value athleticism. Thats what's being discussed here. Who's more athletic? The 5 foot 7 160 pound soccer player who can run a 4.5 40 yard, or the 6 foot 5 265 pound NFL player who also runs a 4.5 40 yard? I think the answer is pretty simple.

[kurple]

Skill wise? very impressive.

But athleticism wise? He's just a midget running at a decent speed that any NFL player could match.
do you have any idea what athleticism means? Balance, body controll, stamina, sprint speed, acceleration, space awereness, eye-feet coordination are all athletic abilities

[Im Still Ballin]

But the main elements of athleticism are

1. Strength
2. Speed
3. Size

[kurple]

depends on what your goals are, doesnt it?

are you really this stupid

[kurple]

and there are plenty of "athletic" (by your definition) "soccer" players

micah richards (pre-injury) comes to mind. as quick as anyone and built as a tank

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/cossie%40ste/richardsDM0509_186x250.jpg

[sweggeh]

and there are plenty of "athletic" (by your definition) "soccer" players

micah richards (pre-injury) comes to mind. as quick as anyone and built as a tank

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/cossie%40ste/richardsDM0509_186x250.jpg

Don't forget the real beast mode, Adebayo Akinfenwa.

http://i.imgur.com/htg6f.jpg

[Im Still Ballin]

Let me say it again.

Size matters. We don't weigh athleticism on the same scale for a 5 foot 11 guy who runs a 4.5 and a 6 foot 8 guy who runs a 4.5. The 6 foot 8 guy IS MORE ATHLETIC. Theoretically a 6 foot 8 guy should not be able to be equally as fast as a 5 foot 11 guy, but nature don't work that way. This is superior genetics.

All I'm saying is elite athletic soccer player don't come close to elite athletic NFL players. The most gifted athletes don't play soccer. This is the elite of the elite. They go to sports where their superior height and limb lengths are put to best use.

[ace23]

All I'm saying is elite athletic soccer player don't come close to elite athletic NFL players.
No one is debating the point you're trying to make if size, speed strength are your main criteria in determining athleticism. Why do you continue to post about it?

[sweggeh]

Let me say it again.

Size matters. We don't weigh athleticism on the same scale for a 5 foot 11 guy who runs a 4.5 and a 6 foot 8 guy who runs a 4.5. The 6 foot 8 guy IS MORE ATHLETIC. Theoretically a 6 foot 8 guy should not be able to be equally as fast as a 5 foot 11 guy, but nature don't work that way. This is superior genetics.

All I'm saying is elite athletic soccer player don't come close to elite athletic NFL players. The most gifted athletes don't play soccer. This is the elite of the elite. They go to sports where their superior height and limb lengths are put to best use.

http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/67/590x/chelsea.gif-469968.jpg

Courtois, one of the worlds best goalkeepers, 6ft 6.

http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Peter+Crouch+Queens+Park+Rangers+v+Stoke+City+uFS-mVnF1oWl.jpg

Peter Crouch. 6ft 8.

There are plenty of tall guys in football.

[sweggeh]

What I love most about football aside from it being the best sport, is that it brings out emotions that you just will not see anywhere else.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTSULy5LkKs&t=3m46s

Could you imagine USA commentators getting this hyped over a NBA/NFL game? No. Cause it just isn't anywhere near as important.

[sweggeh]

Oh yeah how could I forget....Zlatan himself is 6ft 5. What 6ft 5+ guy in the NFL can ever do something like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ck5P30zC3Z0

[Im Still Ballin]

You missed my point entirely

[sweggeh]

Oh yeah how could I forget....Zlatan himself is 6ft 5. What 6ft 5+ guy in the NFL can ever do something like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ck5P30zC3Z0

This refers to your point about height + athleticism right here.

[Im Still Ballin]

That is a show of skill more than athleticism

[Im Still Ballin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdTYsrbdnrs

[Im Still Ballin]

Show me a soccer player who is that size and can record those numbers

[Im Still Ballin]

Of course soccer players are different athletes (endurance) but I struggle to see ANY soccer player who has the potential to match these NFL guys if they were the same size and had the same training. Bottom line. They are genetically inferior athletes compared to these Nfl guys

[qrich]

Main elements of athleticism are:

1] Stamina
2] Eye-Foot Coordination
3] Sprint Speed


Therefore, these steroid infested NFL "athletes" are genetically inferior to, not only, football athletes, but also field hockey athletes.

[Im Still Ballin]

Let me reiterate...

Size is not so much an element of athleticism as it is a multiplier. The larger the athlete, the more force that is required for movement.

Strength: the ability to produce force
Speed: the ability to move very rapidly
Endurance: the ability to resist fatigue
Flexibility: The ability to attain large ranges of motion at the joints
Coordination: the ability to move the body in order to accomplish a task

I guess it really comes down to opinion. I think that more explosive, stronger and faster athletes are the most "athletic" and impressive. As would most people. Then you combine that with size.

[waseem780]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Axt0GWHCMAAk3cr.jpg

http://www.goolfm.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/seed.jpg

around 36 years old^

http://i.imgur.com/91YlQ88.jpg


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A0L1-naCUAEFiv1.jpg


http://cdn01.cdn.socialitelife.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/micah-richards-shirtless-south-beach-photos-03092010-10-435x580.jpg

http://www.espn.co.uk/PICTURES/CMS/20500/20533.2.jpg

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/yd42eAvn9EI/0.jpg
^He could squat a shit load.

But tbh you're right , none are as explosive as adrian peterson

[waseem780]

I bet you guys like Prime Eto,Aubameyang,Walcott,Gervinho and maybe even Bale are a shit ton faster than a prime Chris Johnson though.

[chosen_one6]

I bet you guys like Prime Eto,Aubameyang,Walcott,Gervinho and maybe even Bale are a shit ton faster than a prime Chris Johnson though.

I bet they aren't.

Chris Johnson ran a sub 4.3 40 if I remember correctly. A shit ton faster would mean being faster than any human being ever. Don't talk out your ass, its not a good look.

[waseem780]

I bet they aren't.

Chris Johnson ran a sub 4.3 40 if I remember correctly. A shit ton faster would mean being faster than any human being ever. Don't talk out your ass, its not a good look.
Aubameyang, Bolly, and Maybe Prime Eto'o are for sure faster than 4.24 40 yard dash.

But yeah Idk why I wrote a shit ton faster my bad.

[sweggeh]

Aubameyang is faster than USAIN BOLT over 30m.

[Im Still Ballin]

Usain is a big guy. Tall

He isn't known for blistering acceleration.

[chosen_one6]

Aubameyang, Bolly, and Maybe Prime Eto'o are for sure faster than 4.24 40 yard dash.

But yeah Idk why I wrote a shit ton faster my bad.

:cheers:

[MavsSuperFan]

The NFL at certain positions definitely put an emphasis on certain athletic traits.

Eg. Power for Oline and DLine
Speed for DB

Dont watch much soccer but I dont think anyone in soccer is stronger than an elite Offensive linemen or faster than an elite cornerback.

With that said from what i have seen of soccer overall i think it requires more skill and less raw physical attributes. Off the top of my head other than "sports" like sprinting and power lifting I cant think of a sport that is more based on raw physical traits than some positions in football.