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Heilige
11-24-2014, 05:55 PM
[QUOTE]Ninety-three percent of blacks are killed by other blacks,

ThemBombs
11-24-2014, 06:40 PM
:facepalm
it's been 50 years since segregation ended and black culture continues to rapidly decline as the years go by. there's no more excuses.

ThemBombs
11-24-2014, 06:42 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/08/28/these-seven-charts-show-the-black-white-economic-gap-hasnt-budged-in-50-years/

Trollsmasher
11-24-2014, 06:42 PM
das racis tho

KyrieTheFuture
11-24-2014, 07:11 PM
:facepalm
it's been 50 years since segregation ended and black culture continues to rapidly decline as the years go by. there's no more excuses.
Are you implying 50 years is a good amount of time to adapt to radical change? Because if so, you know nothing about history.

ThemBombs
11-24-2014, 07:25 PM
Are you implying 50 years is a good amount of time to adapt to radical change? Because if so, you know nothing about history.
so why has it been getting worse and worse for blacks as the decades went by since the Civil Rights Act?

:facepalm
SMH. accountability and personal responsibility mean absolutely nothing anymore in America. it's always point the finger elsewhere and blame someone else for your problems.

97 bulls
11-24-2014, 09:02 PM
:facepalm
it's been 50 years since segregation ended and black culture continues to rapidly decline as the years go by. there's no more excuses.
Oh stop it. Blacks would be doing just fine had racists whites not consistently burned down any effort for them to start new lives outside of slavery. shortly after slavery, we had their own towns, schools, businesses, churches etc. And whites consistently attacked those towns and basically forced blacks to assimilate into the white culture. Go watch the movie Rosewood.

And what about reparations? Jews and Asians got theirs. So did Indians. Why can't blacks be afforded the same opportunities?

97 bulls
11-24-2014, 09:05 PM
so why has it been getting worse and worse for blacks as the decades went by since the Civil Rights Act?

:facepalm
SMH. accountability and personal responsibility mean absolutely nothing anymore in America. it's always point the finger elsewhere and blame someone else for your problems.
You are obviously an ignorant individual. Have you ever taken the time to read up on black history?

The way our legal system is set up, blacks dont stand a chance as a whole. We are treated differently from all other races.

SunsN07BookIt
11-24-2014, 09:10 PM
Most white people are killed by white people as well. Need to stop this white on white hate crime!


Do you have any figures of non Hispanic white on non Hispanic white crime? I'd be curious to see that. With Hispanics lumped in with whites by the FBI it's around 80% I believe, so I bet your right it's still in the majority, but whites and Asians don't have(not a significant number) gangs running around killing each other like blacks and Hispanics, so I'd be curious to see how much lower the figure would be with Hispanics left out.

Norcaliblunt
11-24-2014, 09:28 PM
Do you have any figures of non Hispanic white on non Hispanic white crime? I'd be curious to see that. With Hispanics lumped in with whites by the FBI it's around 80% I believe, so I bet your right it's still in the majority, but whites and Asians don't have(not a significant number) gangs running around killing each other like blacks and Hispanics, so I'd be curious to see how much lower the figure would be with Hispanics left out.

There sure were a lot of whites killing other whites in both World Wars. Lol.

IamRAMBO24
11-24-2014, 11:00 PM
Black victimization is the biggest reason why blacks are not moving up in society.

"All of these things have lead to a lack of education, poverty, violence, and a broken families with absent parents. "

Bullsh*t.

Asian americans come from absolutely nothing but yet they are taking advantage of education and opening small businesses to move up in society.

The more black people complain and blame the whites for their weaknesses, the less likely they will find empowerment within themselves to overcome any weaknesses.

Blacks need to realize they are strong individuals who can overcome any obstacle, not weak victims being kept down by the white man.

Patrick Chewing
11-24-2014, 11:09 PM
Are you implying 50 years is a good amount of time to adapt to radical change? Because if so, you know nothing about history.


Yes it is. Asians, and Latinos have been here much less and are more successful.

Blacks dominate sports and we have had a Black President. The opportunity is there. If people choose not to take it, then they deserve ridicule and blame.

ThemBombs
11-24-2014, 11:10 PM
You are obviously an ignorant individual. Have you ever taken the time to read up on black history?

The way our legal system is set up, blacks dont stand a chance as a whole. We are treated differently from all other races.
:facepalm
you just don't get it, and are most likely a left-wing fanatic who not only believes egalitarianism is feasible but also ideal.

guess what? it's neither. that's why things like college exist; college (typically) separates those who will excel in the future and those who will blame whoever and whatever for their piss-poor life because when they were younger they didn't take their education seriously(it is NOT JUST BLACKS who do this but in fact IDIOTS OF ALL RACE, ETHNICITY, RELIGION, ETC.). See: Occupy Wall Street. humanity as a whole isn't meant to be "one" and "equal", it's always been a game of one-upping and exceeding over your rival.

and spare me the "we are treated differently from all other races" garbage. yes, your people are treated differently from others. in the fact that when "your people" commit atrocities against non-blacks, the media doesn't keep it on blast to attempt to fuel a race war, as they do whenever a non-black kills a black.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
11-24-2014, 11:45 PM
I can dig some of the issues that Dyson has elaborated on in the past, but calling Giuliani a white supremacist? Race baiting nonsense lol

ThemBombs
11-24-2014, 11:48 PM
I can dig some of the issues that Dyson has elaborated on in the past, but calling Giuliani a white supremacist? Race baiting nonsense lol
someone gets it, finally.

GimmeThat
11-24-2014, 11:55 PM
you can't look out for your own people.
you can only help create a system in which helps look out for people.


- unknown

97 bulls
11-25-2014, 01:26 AM
:facepalm
you just don't get it, and are most likely a left-wing fanatic who not only believes egalitarianism is feasible but also ideal.
Nope. What I believe in is a fair chance. Something typical blacks don't have. And its people like you that keep the divide by spouting nonsense. How can you honestly expect that blacks should be on equal footing as all other races when they are constantly held back? Rather it be through beaking up our families through the wellfare system, the inequality in the legal system, as well as our financial system.


guess what? it's neither. that's why things like college exist; college (typically) separates those who will excel in the future and those who will blame whoever and whatever for their piss-poor life because when they were younger they didn't take their education seriously(it is NOT JUST BLACKS who do this but in fact IDIOTS OF ALL RACE, ETHNICITY, RELIGION, ETC.). See: Occupy Wall Street. humanity as a whole isn't meant to be "one" and "equal", it's always been a game of one-upping and exceeding over your rival.
But you're acting as if blacks are afforded the same opportunities as most other races and just choose to fail. The facts show thats just not true.


and spare me the "we are treated differently from all other races" garbage. yes, your people are treated differently from others. in the fact that when "your people" commit atrocities against non-blacks, the media doesn't keep it on blast to attempt to fuel a race war, as they do whenever a non-black kills a black.
Most of the time, blacks only make issues out of law enforcement. And even more when they are let go. Wed be rioting every day if we were to get out panties in a bunch due to atrocities committed against us.

97 bulls
11-25-2014, 01:28 AM
Oh. And for the record, over 80% of crimes committed against Caucasians are from other Caucasians.

ThePhantomCreep
11-25-2014, 01:31 AM
so why has it been getting worse and worse for blacks as the decades went by since the Civil Rights Act?

:facepalm
SMH. accountability and personal responsibility mean absolutely nothing anymore in America. it's always point the finger elsewhere and blame someone else for your problems.

Because it's not? Black on black crime has declined significantly since the end of the crack epidemic.

Swaggin916
11-25-2014, 02:16 AM
Black people are okay with getting killed by their own kind... not by whites. freakin racists...

Draz
11-25-2014, 06:27 AM
Black people are okay with getting killed by their own kind... not by whites. freakin racists...
:roll:

End this thread :roll:

tomtucker
11-25-2014, 06:35 AM
Black people are okay with getting killed by their own kind... not by whites. freakin racists...
:oldlol: :roll:

Dresta
11-25-2014, 09:24 AM
Black victimization is the biggest reason why blacks are not moving up in society.

"All of these things have lead to a lack of education, poverty, violence, and a broken families with absent parents. "

Bullsh*t.

Asian americans come from absolutely nothing but yet they are taking advantage of education and opening small businesses to move up in society.

The more black people complain and blame the whites for their weaknesses, the less likely they will find empowerment within themselves to overcome any weaknesses.

Blacks need to realize they are strong individuals who can overcome any obstacle, not weak victims being kept down by the white man.
This. In the end it's the simple Marxist concept of polylogism applied to a new group, and this has always been a means of shutting down debate and from preventing any real or meaningful solutions from being found, but it certainly gives you a feeling of typically Marxist superiority. Feminists, gays etc. all do the same thing now, and it just makes public discourse completely nonsensical - everyone clamouring for their own special privileges - don't forget us, we're disadvantaged too!!

When you think what people have struggled through in the past the way a lot of black Americans can't stop bitching and moaning about how tough life is for them right now is, well, a joke. Every unfortunate incident is an institutional attack on their very existence to some of these people, and also an excuse to remain ignorant plebs, and not bother with things like self-betterment. If there wasn't such an abundance of anti-intellectual bigots and snobs in predominantly black neighbourhoods and schools then it would be far easier for more blacks to break away from the mass of ignorance that predominates, but there isn't, so they don't. It's hard to break from a self-destructive community.

Nor is this a phenomenon limited to black people, but a bane for all of society that has contributed significantly to people's diminishing ability to think and reason for themselves, and on their own, to reach conclusions different from those that are predominant in the particular tribal group they associate with. Mass 'education' is creating a society of conceited and uneducated imbeciles.

Dresta
11-25-2014, 09:42 AM
Nope. What I believe in is a fair chance. Something typical blacks don't have. And its people like you that keep the divide by spouting nonsense. How can you honestly expect that blacks should be on equal footing as all other races when they are constantly held back? Rather it be through beaking up our families through the wellfare system, the inequality in the legal system, as well as our financial system.


But you're acting as if blacks are afforded the same opportunities as most other races and just choose to fail. The facts show thats just not true.


Most of the time, blacks only make issues out of law enforcement. And even more when they are let go. Wed be rioting every day if we were to get out panties in a bunch due to atrocities committed against us.
:roll:

You believe in an undefinable abstraction then? You keep talking about facts, but the very concept 'fair chance' has no objective existence, thus being completely arbitrary and subjective. I'd like to see how you'd numerically measure and dole out these 'fair chances', how you'd account for the fact that plenty of white men don't have 'fair chances' either. Do they get help too? Or is it only the black disenfranchised that are deserving, or are they special? Has Obama had less of a 'fair chance' than the white teen who died of cancer? You need to realise there is no such thing as a 'typical black' just different individuals with various natural privileges and endowments, like everyone else.

Life isn't FAIR. If it was it'd be something else.

So wait a minute: are you seriously suggesting that welfare is aimed at specifically ruining the black family? I agree some forms of welfare are offshoots of cultural Marxism, in that they aim at the eradication of the family structure altogether (well, they certainly incentivise its disintegration), but they aren't targeted directly at blacks, and never have been. It's a creature of feminism and the desire to break apart the patriarchal household, nothing to do with black people in particular.

Godzuki
11-25-2014, 10:00 AM
Nope. What I believe in is a fair chance. Something typical blacks don't have. And its people like you that keep the divide by spouting nonsense. How can you honestly expect that blacks should be on equal footing as all other races when they are constantly held back? Rather it be through beaking up our families through the wellfare system, the inequality in the legal system, as well as our financial system.


But you're acting as if blacks are afforded the same opportunities as most other races and just choose to fail. The facts show thats just not true.


Most of the time, blacks only make issues out of law enforcement. And even more when they are let go. Wed be rioting every day if we were to get out panties in a bunch due to atrocities committed against us.


coming from the reverse racist mf'er that was acting like it was good that the LA riots happened and drove out and burned down korean liquor stores from black communities, its funny how u keep spouting this WOE IS ME nonsense :facepalm

its been like a 100~ years since slavery, how fukkin long is everyone that wasn't even alive back then in a completely different world, in as opportunistic a country there is in the world today based on drive to succeed, going to owe you for something YOU never went thru? :facepalm

sorry feel sorry for yourself mf'ers, so many black people like that these days who never made much of themselves and blame all of their shortcomings on the MAN. got to have a scapegoat for anyone but yourselves, as individuals, right? :cheers: this shit was even pushing it in the 80's but its fukkin 2014....all of us who grew up here in America know we ALL were only limited by our drive to succeed. and some of us know we're WAY more fortunate with a head start than every immigrant, and soomehow they make something of themselves with no english and $0~ :pimp:

ImKobe
11-25-2014, 11:18 AM
Black people are okay with getting killed by their own kind... not by whites. freakin racists...
:applause:

97 bulls
11-25-2014, 11:41 AM
coming from the reverse racist mf'er that was acting like it was good that the LA riots happened and drove out and burned down korean liquor stores from black communities, its funny how u keep spouting this WOE IS ME nonsense :facepalm

its been like a 100~ years since slavery, how fukkin long is everyone that wasn't even alive back then in a completely different world, in as opportunistic a country there is in the world today based on drive to succeed, going to owe you for something YOU never went thru? :facepalm

sorry feel sorry for yourself mf'ers, so many black people like that these days who never made much of themselves and blame all of their shortcomings on the MAN. got to have a scapegoat for anyone but yourselves, as individuals, right? :cheers: this shit was even pushing it in the 80's but its fukkin 2014....all of us who grew up here in America know we ALL were only limited by our drive to succeed. and some of us know we're WAY more fortunate with a head start than every immigrant, and soomehow they make something of themselves with no english and $0~ :pimp:
This is a bold faced lie. What I wanted you as ans Asian to do is accept responsibility for their role in what happened that day. I personally believe that it would've been much better had African American patrons just flat out STOP going to stores owned by Asians. As opposed to burning them down.

The rest of your post is gibberish. I've plainly stated and backed up with facts as to how blacks are oppressed today. As well as actual video. You're just too ignorant to accept it.

97 bulls
11-25-2014, 11:49 AM
:roll:

You believe in an undefinable abstraction then? You keep talking about facts, but the very concept 'fair chance' has no objective existence, thus being completely arbitrary and subjective. I'd like to see how you'd numerically measure and dole out these 'fair chances', how you'd account for the fact that plenty of white men don't have 'fair chances' either. Do they get help too? Or is it only the black disenfranchised that are deserving, or are they special? Has Obama had less of a 'fair chance' than the white teen who died of cancer? You need to realise there is no such thing as a 'typical black' just different individuals with various natural privileges and endowments, like everyone else.

Life isn't FAIR. If it was it'd be something else.

So wait a minute: are you seriously suggesting that welfare is aimed at specifically ruining the black family? I agree some forms of welfare are offshoots of cultural Marxism, in that they aim at the eradication of the family structure altogether (well, they certainly incentivise its disintegration), but they aren't targeted directly at blacks, and never have been. It's a creature of feminism and the desire to break apart the patriarchal household, nothing to do with black people in particular.
So you justify black oppression by saying life isn't fair? Which is basically an acknowledgement that blacks are oppressed. Then you want to say that blacks should be doing better? What gives?

Here's my point. You have two people running a race. One has plenty of help by way of water, adequate shoes, proper traing etc. The other isn't even allowed the same support that I listed, and whats more, has to run with 50 lb weights on his back.

You actually would look down upon runner number two? Come on. Theres a huge difference in having equal chances (which isnt realistic) and having a fair chance to succeed.

Dresta
11-25-2014, 11:53 AM
This is a bold faced lie. What I wanted you as ans Asian to do is accept responsibility for their role in what happened that day. I personally believe that it would've been much better had African American patrons just flat out STOP going to stores owned by Asians. As opposed to burning them down.

The rest of your post is gibberish. I've plainly stated and backed up with facts as to how blacks are oppressed today. As well as actual video. You're just too ignorant to accept it.Accept responsibility for what exactly? To suggest such a thing as race responsibility is racist in itself. It is only individuals who can bear responsibility, and they should only bear responsibility for their conduct as individuals, not the past crimes of their 'race'. 2000 years of your kind of thinking and race blaming is what culminated in mass incineration of Jews you know, or just about any kind of ethnic genocide you care to name.

Race problems will only end once idiots stop peddling such tribalistic sentiments as those you have been expressing in this thread.

DwnShft2Xcelr8
11-25-2014, 12:15 PM
its been like a 100~ years since slavery
:oldlol:
Guys, it's apparently 1965 right now.

Godzuki
11-25-2014, 12:16 PM
This is a bold faced lie. What I wanted you as ans Asian to do is accept responsibility for their role in what happened that day. I personally believe that it would've been much better had African American patrons just flat out STOP going to stores owned by Asians. As opposed to burning them down.

The rest of your post is gibberish. I've plainly stated and backed up with facts as to how blacks are oppressed today. As well as actual video. You're just too ignorant to accept it.


this is the reverse racist mentality that makes me laff. you don't even realize how racist you are while accusing everyone else of being racists holding u down ROFL :facepalm

reality is NOBODY is preying on black people for setting up business's in the city. if it just so happens that the inner city has a high concentration of black people who like their liquor and buy from those stores its not some big conspiracy against black people :facepalm

you might as well blame McDonalds while you're at it for serving black people junk food. nevermind they serve white, azn, etc. people junk food too, just like liquor stores serve white, azn's liquor as well who happen to live in the inner city. GTFO here with that WOE IS ME dumbass everyone is against black people nonsense :facepalm

this is what i'm talking about tho, shit is unreal how a lot of black people think like you, and its worse politically correct America lets you all get away with it like weak minded sheep, like they still owe you so much for shit that happened so fukking long ago so many generations past that has zero relevance to your chances of making something of yourselves today. its just always a fukking excuse with a lot of you,, can never own up to your own failures, laziness, or issues. GOT to blame the man, anyone but yourselves.

thats some real pitiful shit :facepalm

casual_fan
11-25-2014, 12:16 PM
This is a bold faced lie. What I wanted you as ans Asian to do is accept responsibility for their role in what happened that day. I personally believe that it would've been much better had African American patrons just flat out STOP going to stores owned by Asians. As opposed to burning them down.

The rest of your post is gibberish. I've plainly stated and backed up with facts as to how blacks are oppressed today. As well as actual video. You're just too ignorant to accept it.

:biggums:
What is wrong with shopping at an asian store ? Do they " take away fair chances of black business owner ?"

Godzuki
11-25-2014, 12:16 PM
:oldlol:
Guys, it's apparently 1965 right now.


Guys, this stupid mf'er takes generalizations literally :oldlol:

KyrieTheFuture
11-25-2014, 12:32 PM
Guys, this stupid mf'er takes generalizations literally :oldlol:
A wrong number isn't a generalization you dumb ****

Godzuki
11-25-2014, 12:37 PM
A wrong number isn't a generalization you dumb ****


ROFL its called a generalized number followed by ~ to emphasize exactly that u stupid feel sorry for yourself lil bitch ass failure :oldlol:

keep preaching your stupid sheep think shit tho, its making me laff :pimp:

97 bulls
11-25-2014, 12:43 PM
:biggums:
What is wrong with shopping at an asian store ? Do they " take away fair chances of black business owner ?"
Theres nothing wrong with shopping Asian owned businesses. My point was instead of burning the buildings down, just stop going.

Do you know why blacks were attacking Asian owned businesses?

west_tip
11-25-2014, 12:47 PM
Theres nothing wrong with shopping Asian owned businesses. My point was instead of burning the buildings down, just stop going.

Do you know why blacks were attacking Asian owned businesses?

Because Koreans had previously shot/killed black store patrons, right?

casual_fan
11-25-2014, 12:51 PM
Theres nothing wrong with shopping Asian owned businesses. My point was instead of burning the buildings down, just stop going.

Do you know why blacks were attacking Asian owned businesses?

No i can

Dresta
11-25-2014, 12:55 PM
So you justify black oppression by saying life isn't fair? Which is basically an acknowledgement that blacks are oppressed. Then you want to say that blacks should be doing better? What gives?

Here's my point. You have two people running a race. One has plenty of help by way of water, adequate shoes, proper traing etc. The other isn't even allowed the same support that I listed, and whats more, has to run with 50 lb weights on his back.

You actually would look down upon runner number two? Come on. Theres a huge difference in having equal chances (which isnt realistic) and having a fair chance to succeed.
Justify? I wasn't justifying anything, simply pointing out a few realities you seem to be ignoring. First, that 'oppression' is defined as 'prolonged cruel or unjust treatment or control' - cruelty and justice are human constructs, and can only be applied to the actions of individuals, them being the only things capable of acting. Thus 'black oppression' is a nonsensical expression as oppression is a word that can only be used to explicate the relationship between individuals, not between an individual and their environment. It makes as much sense to talk of an abstract 'black oppression' in this way as it does to talk about 'sun oppression' for people who get skin cancer.

Here's my point: your dividing things into their racial classifications serves no purpose other than to erect further racial barriers and stir the alluring pot of self-victimisation and the apathy it carries along with. The point is that in your race allegory there is nothing stopping the handicapped racer from being white, and the one with the advantages from being black. In fact, in terms of the success of multi-millionaire professional athletes, things seem to be this way around. Stop reducing society to a world of binary averages and thinking this justifies crude generalisations about relative ease of life: it's childish, and ignores the individual problems themselves, which amount to far more than skin-colour.

You're a racial conspiracy theorist who think there is some contrived plot to ruin the lives of black people, even to the point where you declared that the institution of marriage is being attacked specifically to target black people. This is ridiculous.

KyrieTheFuture
11-25-2014, 12:55 PM
ROFL its called a generalized number followed by ~ to emphasize exactly that u stupid feel sorry for yourself lil bitch ass failure :oldlol:

keep preaching your stupid sheep think shit tho, its making me laff :pimp:
http://img.pandawhale.com/post-52629-Michael-Jordan-laughing-gif-Im-5pAX.gif

97 bulls
11-25-2014, 12:57 PM
this is the reverse racist mentality that makes me laff. you don't even realize how racist you are while accusing everyone else of being racists holding u down ROFL :facepalm

reality is NOBODY is preying on black people for setting up business's in the city. if it just so happens that the inner city has a high concentration of black people who like their liquor and buy from those stores its not some big conspiracy against black people :facepalm

you might as well blame McDonalds while you're at it for serving black people junk food. nevermind they serve white, azn, etc. people junk food too, just like liquor stores serve white, azn's liquor as well who happen to live in the inner city. GTFO here with that WOE IS ME dumbass everyone is against black people nonsense :facepalm

this is what i'm talking about tho, shit is unreal how a lot of black people think like you, and its worse politically correct America lets you all get away with it like weak minded sheep, like they still owe you so much for shit that happened so fukking long ago so many generations past that has zero relevance to your chances of making something of yourselves today. its just always a fukking excuse with a lot of you,, can never own up to your own failures, laziness, or issues. GOT to blame the man, anyone but yourselves.

thats some real pitiful shit :facepalm
What are you missing? How is this going so far over your head? I'm only.refuting YOUR positions. You're the one attempting to make the claim that the black community is inherently lazy, and has a criminal mentality.

But im positive that you haven't taken the time to actually delve into why certain situations or circumstances are the way they are past skin color.

97 bulls
11-25-2014, 01:15 PM
[QUOTE=casual_fan]No i can

casual_fan
11-25-2014, 01:21 PM
Because blacks got sick of constantly being accused off stealing from them. As well as being harrased. That Harlens kid was just more fuel to the fire.

Which is why I feel that instead of burning down buildings, just stop going.

I agree that would be the right response. But i can

Trollsmasher
11-25-2014, 01:24 PM
http://i.imgur.com/eXaWAMN.png

when blacks shop in Asian stores

Burgz V2
11-25-2014, 01:36 PM
this quote from Giuliani is based off a narrative that has been disproven by academics, law enforcement officials and community members time and time again. the only thing a statement like that has been useful for is POLITICAL GAIN that no citizen will benefit from. All it does is allow millions (and billions in the case of the state of NY) of dollars to be pumped into the budgets of local police departments and the heightened surveillance of ALL CITIZENS. they prey off the fear that the middle class has of some inherent black, criminal, contagion, as if they don't police these people, little Jonnie and Billy will become gang bangers and little Becky will be out strutting her stuff on the corner.

Giuliani needs to crawl back into his nonsensical hypocritical corner and just disappear already.

Andrew Wiggins
11-25-2014, 01:42 PM
michael eric dyson is a ****

he always claims anything that goes against his agenda is a false equivalency

casual_fan
11-25-2014, 01:44 PM
this quote from Giuliani is based off a narrative that has been disproven by academics, law enforcement officials and community members time and time again. the only thing a statement like that has been useful for is POLITICAL GAIN that no citizen will benefit from. All it does is allow millions (and billions in the case of the state of NY) of dollars to be pumped into the budgets of local police departments and the heightened surveillance of ALL CITIZENS. they prey off the fear that the middle class has of some inherent black, criminal, contagion, as if they don't police these people, little Jonnie and Billy will become gang bangers and little Becky will be out strutting her stuff on the corner.

Giuliani needs to crawl back into his nonsensical hypocritical corner and just disappear already.

New York is a lot safer now than its used to be. So it kind of worked, don

NumberSix
11-25-2014, 01:48 PM
this quote from Giuliani is based off a narrative that has been disproven by academics, law enforcement officials and community members time and time again. the only thing a statement like that has been useful for is POLITICAL GAIN that no citizen will benefit from. All it does is allow millions (and billions in the case of the state of NY) of dollars to be pumped into the budgets of local police departments and the heightened surveillance of ALL CITIZENS. they prey off the fear that the middle class has of some inherent black, criminal, contagion, as if they don't police these people, little Jonnie and Billy will become gang bangers and little Becky will be out strutting her stuff on the corner.

Giuliani needs to crawl back into his nonsensical hypocritical corner and just disappear already.
Which quote? He said a bunch of things.

Burgz V2
11-25-2014, 02:03 PM
[QUOTE=casual_fan]New York is a lot safer now than its used to be. So it kind of worked, don

97 bulls
11-25-2014, 02:43 PM
Justify? I wasn't justifying anything, simply pointing out a few realities you seem to be ignoring. First, that 'oppression' is defined as 'prolonged cruel or unjust treatment or control' - cruelty and justice are human constructs, and can only be applied to the actions of individuals, them being the only things capable of acting. Thus 'black oppression' is a nonsensical expression as oppression is a word that can only be used to explicate the relationship between individuals, not between an individual and their environment. It makes as much sense to talk of an abstract 'black oppression' in this way as it does to talk about 'sun oppression' for people who get skin cancer.

Here's my point: your dividing things into their racial classifications serves no purpose other than to erect further racial barriers and stir the alluring pot of self-victimisation and the apathy it carries along with. The point is that in your race allegory there is nothing stopping the handicapped racer from being white, and the one with the advantages from being black. In fact, in terms of the success of multi-millionaire professional athletes, things seem to be this way around. Stop reducing society to a world of binary averages and thinking this justifies crude generalisations about relative ease of life: it's childish, and ignores the individual problems themselves, which amount to far more than skin-colour.

You're a racial conspiracy theorist who think there is some contrived plot to ruin the lives of black people, even to the point where you declared that the institution of marriage is being attacked specifically to target black people. This is ridiculous.
Lol. Let's try to find a common ground. I've seen and read in this forum the feeling that its ok to profile Blacks and Hispanics. I disagree. That does not mean that its ok.for blacks to commit crimes and do what they want. I also disagree with the notion that blacks and hispanics are inherently lazy and criminals. So the question comes down to why a disproportionate number of crimes are committed by a small percentage of people. Before I answer this, I'd like and appreciate your opinion on why you feel this is.

97 bulls
11-25-2014, 02:47 PM
[QUOTE=casual_fan]I agree that would be the right response. But i can

ace23
11-25-2014, 03:16 PM
To think this dude was elected to lead a city :oldlol: