in time, everyone will understand that the Ferguson protesters are wrong

[ThemBombs]

... and everything will begin to come clear.
that from the very beginning, this was another attempt at brewing a race war that would permanently shake up America.

[Patrick Chewing]

... and everything will begin to come clear.
that from the very beginning, this was another attempt at brewing a race war that would permanently shake up America.


I blame the President and the Attorney General for putting race before the rule of Law.

Black Leaders are meant to inspire, not to divide. Even now, Obama doesn't have the backing of fellow blacks.

[BasedTom]

Future history classes will consists of constant videos of these riots, worldstar hiphop fights, and other stupid shit like Miley Cyrus twerking. The instructor will then hammer home the message that the Police State exists to protect us from out own feral, hedonist nature.

[ThemBombs]

Pretty everyone already understands they are dummies

Except the dummies themselves
there's still some widespread support for them, particularly among the left.
but soon, there will be none as more and more facts will continue to trump emotion.

[GimmeThat]

time must have done something terribly wrong. to have all this criticism as well as hate towards it.

[RidonKs]

actually time will yield the opposite understanding, as it most often does. history rarely frowns upon public disobedience. it is only unfortunate that it just as infrequently remembers public disobedience.

[KyrieTheFuture]

In time, everyone will realize Isis was right.

[RidonKs]

They are dumb people being childish and doing nothing productive and only hurting their community
i'd say with this sentence, you've perfectly captured why the intense emotional backlash against the ferguson protesters will fade into foolishness along with the rest of history's passionate but spiteful reactionaries.

[Swaggin916]

Some people... just don't care about the facts. They are homers but in ways that can actually hurt people.

[HitandRun Reggie]

My gf's 10 year old nephew fell asleep on the sofa, wakes up and sees the Ferguson footage and then says to me half asleep, "Black people make it easy for people not to like them huh?", then went back to sleep. :lol

[RidonKs]

I can use big words too but it doesn't make me more righter
its a ubiquitous pass of tense to divulge our transgressions with so much more than a whisper. your panic is my indulgence, your thrift is my reward. amass what you will; i'll be speaking from my own solitary confinement.

[DonDadda59]

All they're doing is burning down their own community and no one is going to rebuild it. In 30 years, Ferguson will be a ghost town with shells of buildings because of what happened tonight. There are still whole towns like that in NJ from the race riots in the 60s.

[miggyme1]

All they're doing is burning down their own community and no one is going to rebuild it. In 30 years, Ferguson will be a ghost town with shells of buildings because of what happened tonight. There are still whole towns like that in NJ from the race riots in the 60s.


in 30 years?


try 10 years....that city is done for....im sure they wiped out at least 60 to 80 percent of the jobs there tonight..and thats not taking into account the people that are just gonna be so spooked and they just pack up and move their businesses elsewhere.

[Draz]

What did I miss

[Bandito]

its a ubiquitous pass of tense to divulge our transgressions with so much more than a whisper. your panic is my indulgence, your thrift is my reward. amass what you will; i'll be speaking from my own solitary confinement.
What?

[bagelred]

did anyone read the cop's testimony? everything he said sounds logical and he seemed pretty confident in his answers.

In a nutshell
- sees pedestrians walking in middle of street
- asks pedestrians to go to sidewalk
- Brown reacts belligenerently
- Cop realizes they are robber suspects
- Tries to cut them off with car to arrest them
- Brown attacks cop in his car...pummeling cop twice
- Cop realizes guy is huge and strong, cop is pinned in his car...one punch could kill/knock him out
- After a struggle, Cop finally reaches for gun and manages to get some shots off...one hits Brown
- Brown runs, cop goes in pursuit after calling for backup
- Chase ensues
- Brown turns back to attack cop..cop yells get on ground, Brown keeps charging...cop fires
- Brown keeps charging and cop backs up...cop yells get on ground, Brown keeps charging...cope fires again
- same thing...cop fires again
- Finally, Brown hits ground...cop waits for backup


Not sure in what world the cop could have done anything different....someone explain what cop did wrong.

[Dresta]

actually time will yield the opposite understanding, as it most often does. history rarely frowns upon public disobedience. it is only unfortunate that it just as infrequently remembers public disobedience.
Seriously, what the **** are you talking about dude?

Lynching was a form of 'public disobedience', exercised by the mob, and yet very few people don't frown on that practice i would surmise.

You know nothing of history if you are ignorant of the horrors perpetuated by the mob in expressing their 'public disobedience'

They were called the feral masses for a reason, and that's because their tendency has been to loot, pillage, burn and kill whenever granted the opportunity.

[KevinNYC]

did anyone read the cop's testimony? everything he said sounds logical and he seemed pretty confident in his answers.
Remember this police officer didn't have write up his account of what happened on the night it happened.

Or on the next night.

Or the next night.
That is highly, highly unusual. There was no police report on a use of force resulting in someone's death. The police report on the theft of a bunch of cigars was something like 8 pages. Ask any cop how much paperwork must be written just for shooting a gun once that didn't hit any one.

He was able to wait until the autopsy results came out.
He was able to wait until other witness stories came out in the press
He was able to hear basically everything they had against him AND THEN give his side.

A grand jury is not setup to determine if Wilson is guilty or innocent. That's what a trial is set up for. A grand jury is intended simply to determine if there is enough in question for the case to go to trial. The standard of evidence is NOT proof beyond reasonable doubt. The standard is probable cause which means if other testimony conflicts with the defendant's testimony then in almost all cases you have a trial.

There's absolutely no doubt that if the prosecutors wanted an indictment returned against Wilson, they could have easily gotten one given how much power a prosecutor has in the grand jury.

[Ne 1]

"McCulloch rigged the system. He never showed how Wilson feared for his life. He never told why Wilson chased him 150 feet and shot him twice in the head at close range. He was unarmed. McCulloch denigrated the testimony of all black witnesses. I don't believe him. There was no justification for shooting an unarmed person. The fix was in. Wilson got special treatment. This was bull malarkey. It's a major disappointment for our nation and its promise of justice. Justice was not served tonight."

[MJ23forever]

"McCulloch rigged the system. He never showed how Wilson feared for his life. He never told why Wilson chased him 150 feet and shot him twice in the head at close range. He was unarmed. McCulloch denigrated the testimony of all black witnesses. I don't believe him. There was no justification for shooting an unarmed person. The fix was in. Wilson got special treatment. This was bull malarkey. It's a major disappointment for our nation and its promise of justice. Justice was not served tonight."
>Wilson chased Brown
Brown did not have the right to escape. Wilson had the right to apprehend Brown after the fact so he chased him. When Brown decided to fight instead of flight Wilson was allowed to defend himself.
Everything else is a manipulation of facts or opinion.
>Shot him twice in head at close range
Shot till he stops moving. That's what cops are trained to do. Who cares where or at what range?
>denigrated the testimony of all the black witnesses
Most, if not all, the witnesses were black. There were some that even defended Wilson. The ones who lied were proven to have lied because of the autopsy or other reasons and were forced to step down. That's the judicial process. Don't like it. Leave.
>No justification for shooting an unarmed person
I can kill people just fine with my bare hands. Brown is much larger than I am. Weapons are not needed for someone to be a threat.
>Justice. Special Treatment. Justice.
Since when do you get to decide what justice is? Wilson was run out of his home by the protesters before he was even accused of a crime. Is that justice? Criminals are not convicted through democracy and Justice is not decided by it. Quit shouting justice because you don't like how it ended up.

[bagelred]

Remember this police officer didn't have write up his account of what happened on the night it happened.

Or on the next night.

Or the next night.
That is highly, highly unusual. There was no police report on a use of force resulting in someone's death. The police report on the theft of a bunch of cigars was something like 8 pages. Ask any cop how much paperwork must be written just for shooting a gun once that didn't hit any one.

He was able to wait until the autopsy results came out.
He was able to wait until other witness stories came out in the press
He was able to hear basically everything they had against him AND THEN give his side.

A grand jury is not setup to determine if Wilson is guilty or innocent. That's what a trial is set up for. A grand jury is intended simply to determine if there is enough in question for the case to go to trial. The standard of evidence is NOT proof beyond reasonable doubt. The standard is probable cause which means if other testimony conflicts with the defendant's testimony then in almost all cases you have a trial.

There's absolutely no doubt that if the prosecutors wanted an indictment returned against Wilson, they could have easily gotten one given how much power a prosecutor has in the grand jury.

But everything you wrote here doesn't show any evidence that the incident happened a different way. All the evidence we've seen in public seems to support what police if saying...he was attacked in the car, he was punched in face repeatedly, fired gun in car, hit Brown once, pursued on foot, shot Brown when Brown wouldn't get on ground and approached him...is there evidence to support that might have happened a different way?

I don't know why documentation wasn't done that day or next day...I don't know. That doesn't prove anything. You are assuming the worst that he was waiting to plot what he was going to say. Or could have been dozens of reasons paperwork wasn't done right away. Maybe because the officer was injured. I don't know...

So was the grand jury presented evidence that contradicted what officer said or not? Be specific.

[Patrick Chewing]

did anyone read the cop's testimony? everything he said sounds logical and he seemed pretty confident in his answers.

In a nutshell
- sees pedestrians walking in middle of street
- asks pedestrians to go to sidewalk
- Brown reacts belligenerently
- Cop realizes they are robber suspects
- Tries to cut them off with car to arrest them
- Brown attacks cop in his car...pummeling cop twice
- Cop realizes guy is huge and strong, cop is pinned in his car...one punch could kill/knock him out
- After a struggle, Cop finally reaches for gun and manages to get some shots off...one hits Brown
- Brown runs, cop goes in pursuit after calling for backup
- Chase ensues
- Brown turns back to attack cop..cop yells get on ground, Brown keeps charging...cop fires
- Brown keeps charging and cop backs up...cop yells get on ground, Brown keeps charging...cope fires again
- same thing...cop fires again
- Finally, Brown hits ground...cop waits for backup


Not sure in what world the cop could have done anything different....someone explain what cop did wrong.


:applause:

[InfiniteBaskets]

OP should reference looters, not protesters. And it's true, even within 2 years I'd say Ferguson is going to start looking like Camden where no business will want to be there for fear of looting and vandalism.

[rezznor]

How are the gun laws over there? the store owners should have camped on their rooftops and sniped those scumbag looters.

at the very least, set up a high pressure water hose and drench them. dripping wet in 30 degree weather will send those idiots home fast.

[CelticBaller]

All they're doing is burning down their own community and no one is going to rebuild it. In 30 years, Ferguson will be a ghost town with shells of buildings because of what happened tonight. There are still whole towns like that in NJ from the race riots in the 60s.
Good riddance, their ignorance shouldn't be spread

[Myth]

there's still some widespread support for them, particularly among the left.
but soon, there will be none as more and more facts will continue to trump emotion.

A huge chunk of the left does not support how they are protesting.

[nathanjizzle]

All they're doing is burning down their own community and no one is going to rebuild it. In 30 years, Ferguson will be a ghost town with shells of buildings because of what happened tonight. There are still whole towns like that in NJ from the race riots in the 60s.

this is an example of Darwinian theory. dumb people eliminate themselves.

[chips93]

this is an example of Darwinian theory. dumb people eliminate themselves.

dumb broke people fvck more and have more kids

its going the opposite direction, humankind has essentially stopped evolving

[RidonKs]

Seriously, what the **** are you talking about dude?

Lynching was a form of 'public disobedience', exercised by the mob, and yet very few people don't frown on that practice i would surmise.

You know nothing of history if you are ignorant of the horrors perpetuated by the mob in expressing their 'public disobedience'

They were called the feral masses for a reason, and that's because their tendency has been to loot, pillage, burn and kill whenever granted the opportunity.
yeah, you hate people and they are all savages. we get your m.o. dude.

my point is that, in each of these "white cop kills black teen" cases, there has been significantly more peaceful protest and civil disobedience than there has been disruption, petty crime, and violence.

this is why history will not remember the ongoing protests, of which ferguson is only a single example, not as a mad rabid dog pile but as representative of a much larger cause. which of course it is.

and of course none of the same could be said of the kkk and its lynch mobs.

[Dresta]

Yeah, representative of the cause of burning down and vandalising their own community, attacking and destroying the property of people who have nothing to do with their grievances: what a cause!!!

You're just a hopelessly romantic imbecile who's completely unwilling to admit reality. A coward, in other words.

[9erempiree]

Any live streams tonight?

[rezznor]

Yeah, representative of the cause of burning down and vandalising their own community, attacking and destroying the property of people who have nothing to do with their grievances: what a cause!!!

You're just a hopelessly romantic imbecile who's completely unwilling to admit reality. A coward, in other words.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g37HT4-EtzE

[ILLsmak]

yeah, you hate people and they are all savages. we get your m.o. dude.

my point is that, in each of these "white cop kills black teen" cases, there has been significantly more peaceful protest and civil disobedience than there has been disruption, petty crime, and violence.

this is why history will not remember the ongoing protests, of which ferguson is only a single example, not as a mad rabid dog pile but as representative of a much larger cause. which of course it is.

and of course none of the same could be said of the kkk and its lynch mobs.


heh, It took a long time for me to even hear dude was possibly doing something wrong.

That guy was huge. Words are very powerful tools. The way you initially break a story and how you describe it... can paint a picture. In a way that could transform into backlash later. It's like a first impression.

White cop shot unarmed black teen makes you think that it was something unnecessary, and while it maybe was or wasn't (probably was), there's a lot of people who are like AGGGH THIS SHIT AGAIN already. Then they get all angry and are like IF HE DOESN'T GET JUSTICE, WE'RE GONNA RIOT.

It's sad that the government and the world in general is ****ed up. We could change the world by going on strike from work. We run the country, really. But, you know what? The only time people band together is to do some animalistic shit like this... basically chopping off your own limbs in protest.

So, in the end, if we ever reach a higher level of understanding (doubtful), we will look back at these situations and see that media is manipulating us, and how much something can be spun to get a reaction while telling some of the truth. If we look back and say "This is symbolic of racial tensions at the time" then we are ****ing up. However, we probably will.

-Smak