Countdown until LeBron overtakes Kobe in Assists All-Time

[trabash]

Countdown until LeBron overtakes Kobe in Assists All-Time

1. John Stockton 15806
2. Jason Kidd 12091
3. Steve Nash 10335
...
31. Kobe Bryant 5984
...
34. LeBron James 5883


Edit:

Playoffs All-Time:

1. Magic Johnson 2346
2. John Stockton 1839
3. Jason Kidd 1263
...
7. Kobe Bryant 1040
...
10. LeBron James 1019

[kNIOKAS]

:lol

So much tension between Kobe and Labran on ISH lately

[KingPush]

Kobe done had 5984 since 2011

[Dragic4Life]

No surprise. In fact I'm shocked it hadn't happened 2 seasons ago.

[VengefulAngel]

LeBron should surpass Jerry West by the end of the season.

24. Norm Nixon 6386
25. Chris Paul 6241
26. Jerry West* 6238
27. Scottie Pippen* 6135
28. Clyde Drexler* 6125
29. John Havlicek* 6114
30. Baron Davis 6025
31. Kobe Bryant 5984
32. Mookie Blaylock 5972
33. Sam Cassell 5939
34. LeBron James 5883

:bowdown:

He could end up with 10k assists.

:bowdown: :bowdown:

[Graviton]

Who the **** is Norm Nixon lol.

[KingPush]

Who the **** is Norm Nixon lol.
A top 25 all time assist maker :no:

[Graviton]

A top 25 all time assist maker :no:
Sounds like a bad white rapper name. :oldlol:

[sbw19]

Finals
Kobe: 187 assists
LeBron: 174 assists

Is this the season LeBron overtakes Kobe in Finals assists tally?

[VengefulAngel]

Finals
Kobe: 187 assists
LeBron: 174 assists

Is this the season LeBron overtakes Kobe in Finals assists tally?


This Cleveland squad won't make the finals. Especially with nonathletic Lebron.

[r0drig0lac]

Kobe done had 5984 since 2011
:lol

[pauk]

He could end up with 10k assists.

:bowdown: :bowdown:

Just getting into top 10 all-time assist leaders list will be a historic/unbreakable feat, imo considering no non-PG has ever touched foot there and i doubt there will be another one after Lebron...... hell, a non-PG doesnt even exist inside top 25.... currently the non-PG who is the highest up there is Scottie Pippen (#27).

...and neither does a player exist who is top 10 all-time scorer while also being a top 10 all-time assist leader...

Lebron will do all that and it will be unbreakable i believe, just as hard to surpass as Wilts 100 pts & Oscars TD season is. Considering a SG/SF/PF/C averaging more than 7 assists a game for his entire career doesnt come very often, if ever... especially not while also averaging 27-28 ppg for the career.... and it will take more than that career assist average to surpass Lebron.... so i really doubt there will be such a player...

[trabash]

Just getting into top 10 all-time assist leaders list will be a historic/unbreakable feat, imo considering no non-PG has ever touched foot there and i doubt there will be another one after Lebron...... hell, a non-PG doesnt even exist inside top 25.... currently the non-PG who is the highest up there is Scottie Pippen (#27).

...and neither does a player exist who is top 10 all-time scorer while also being a top 10 all-time assist leader...

Lebron will do all that and it will be unbreakable i believe, just as hard to surpass as Wilts 100 pts & Oscars TD season is. Considering a SG/SF/PF/C averaging more than 7 assists a game for his entire career doesnt come very often, if ever... especially not while also averaging 27-28 ppg for the career.... and it will take more than that career assist average to surpass Lebron.... so i really doubt there will be such a player...

While I agree in parts, i don't agree LeBron will have a career average of 27-28 ppg when he retires, more like 23-25 ppg.

[Dresta]

Just getting into top 10 all-time assist leaders list will be a historic/unbreakable feat, imo considering no non-PG has ever touched foot there and i doubt there will be another one after Lebron...... hell, a non-PG doesnt even exist inside top 25.... currently the non-PG who is the highest up there is Scottie Pippen (#27).

...and neither does a player exist who is top 10 all-time scorer while also being a top 10 all-time assist leader...

Lebron will do all that and it will be unbreakable i believe, just as hard to surpass as Wilts 100 pts & Oscars TD season is. Considering a SG/SF/PF/C averaging more than 7 assists a game for his entire career doesnt come very often, if ever... especially not while also averaging 27-28 ppg for the career.... and it will take more than that career assist average to surpass Lebron.... so i really doubt there will be such a player...

:roll:

No mention of the fact that Lebron has basically played the role of a PG who just doesn't have to bring the ball up the floor, and has done so most of his career. Stat-padders always gonna look good on the all-time stats lists.

[pauk]

While I agree in parts, i don't agree LeBron will have a career average of 27-28 ppg when he retires, more like 23-25 ppg.

Yes, but im just looking at his career averages now, 12th season.... and whatever his career avg will look like at the end he will still end up top 10 all-time scoring leader and top 10 all-time assist leader (i think he can manage 7987 asts before he retires), so i just doubt we will ever see some non-PG surpass that....

For somebody to surpass that he will need a career average of 27-28++ ppg (more than Lebron) and 7-8++ apg in his 12th season to JUST BE ON PACE..... thats what i mean....

[pauk]

:roll:

No mention of the fact that Lebron has basically played the role of a PG who just doesn't have to bring the ball up the floor, and has done so most of his career. Stat-padders always gonna look good on the all-time stats lists.

If Lebron would start PG he would have the role of handling the ball as a main fulltime role, in his case it would mean he would bring the ball up for literally the entire game, every single ball possession.... and not like he is doing now, which is to occasionally do that and which mainly is handled by a certain Kyrie Irving..... there is a huge difference in possessions to padd assists when being a Point-Forward (a guy who does PG stuff sometimes more or less) and a Point-Guard (a guy who does PG stuff 24-7)....

Lebron gets his assists MAINLY because of unselfishness & passing ability/vision, he will get you minimum 6-7 assists even if he never is allowed to bring the ball up.... he just has to touch the ball, no matter where he is on the court and his natural instincts & skills will kick in...... if he actually played PG, he would average at least 10 APG.... i can guarantee you that....

[pauk]

Here is an example of Lebron actually starting PG in his prime, 13 straight games (Mo & Gibson were injured or played injured in & out)..... notice the assist increase (despite still shooting/scoring alot):

http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc500/pauk666/Untitled-2-2.png

No my friends, if Lebron really was a full-time PG... only 7 assists a game would be a travesty by his standards....

Him at PG is "Lebron ball" at a level you have never seen before lol

[sportjames23]

kenneth and 9erempire avoiding this thread like the plague. :oldlol:

[Nash]

Here is an example of Lebron actually starting PG in his prime, 13 straight games (Mo & Gibson were injured or played injured in & out)..... notice the assist increase (despite still shooting/scoring alot):

http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc500/pauk666/Untitled-2-2.png

No my friends, if Lebron really was a full-time PG... only 7 assists a game would be a travesty by his standards....

Him at PG is "Lebron ball" at a level you have never seen before lol
'Age: 25-020'

some of these statisticians are unbelievably creepy

[Done_And_Done]

Here is an example of Lebron actually starting PG in his prime, 13 straight games (Mo & Gibson were injured or played injured in & out)..... notice the assist increase (despite still shooting/scoring alot):

http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc500/pauk666/Untitled-2-2.png

No my friends, if Lebron really was a full-time PG... only 7 assists a game would be a travesty by his standards....

Him at PG is "Lebron ball" at a level you have never seen before lol

Pretty crazy stretch of numbers right there

[Dragonyeuw]

Pretty crazy stretch of numbers right there

I still say that year (2010) was Lebron at his best. Yeah he was smarter and more efficient in 2012/2013, but in terms of sheer dominance, 2010 Lebron was scary.

[ImKobe]

Here is an example of Lebron actually starting PG in his prime, 13 straight games (Mo & Gibson were injured or played injured in & out)..... notice the assist increase (despite still shooting/scoring alot):

http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc500/pauk666/Untitled-2-2.png

No my friends, if Lebron really was a full-time PG... only 7 assists a game would be a travesty by his standards....

Him at PG is "Lebron ball" at a level you have never seen before lol

MJ had a better stretch and averaged 32/8/8 when he was on that stat pad shit

Kobe playing PG at 34 had some great stretches as well

[ImKobe]

I still say that year (2010) was Lebron at his best. Yeah he was smarter and more efficient in 2012/2013, but in terms of sheer dominance, 2010 Lebron was scary.

Dude's last 3 Playoff games as a Cav though...

[Mr. Jabbar]

lebrons accolades are shots made by others :rolleyes:

http://www.nbaminer.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/ray-allen-three-pointer.jpg

[Megabox!]

lebrons accolades are shots made by others :rolleyes:

http://www.nbaminer.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/ray-allen-three-pointer.jpg
A Kobe stan making a statement like this? :roll: Shaq says hi

[guy]

Just getting into top 10 all-time assist leaders list will be a historic/unbreakable feat, imo considering no non-PG has ever touched foot there and i doubt there will be another one after Lebron...... hell, a non-PG doesnt even exist inside top 25.... currently the non-PG who is the highest up there is Scottie Pippen (#27).

...and neither does a player exist who is top 10 all-time scorer while also being a top 10 all-time assist leader...

Lebron will do all that and it will be unbreakable i believe, just as hard to surpass as Wilts 100 pts & Oscars TD season is. Considering a SG/SF/PF/C averaging more than 7 assists a game for his entire career doesnt come very often, if ever... especially not while also averaging 27-28 ppg for the career.... and it will take more than that career assist average to surpass Lebron.... so i really doubt there will be such a player...

:oldlol: STFU. You're clearly biased if you think that. Those achievements by Wilt and Oscar being unbreakable has more to do with the game being much different back then over anything else i.e. no one is averaging 40 shots per game today like Wilt did and there's nowhere near enough rebounding opportunities for a PG to get 10+ rebounds a game. That's not the case with Lebron possibly being a top 10 scoring and assist leader. It would be an incredible achievement, but its not nearly as close to impossible as those achievements. Grant Hill may have done it if he was healthy. Dwyane Wade could've been capable of doing it he was healthy.

[heyhey]

pauk goin wild in this thread like an adolescent that just stumbled upon a brazzers pass

[stalkerforlife]

A lot of assists are actually selfish. Kobe makes the right passes that lead to hockey assists. Lebron makes a pass, regardless of consequence, in hopes of padding his stats.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

A lot of assists are actually selfish. Kobe makes the right passes that lead to hockey assists. Lebron makes a pass, regardless of consequence, in hopes of padding his stats.

LeBron 1.1 secondary assists per game
Kobe 0.5 secondary assists per game

http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/player/passing/

[navy]

LeBron 1.1 secondary assists per game
Kobe 0.5 secondary assists per game

http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/player/passing/
:roll:

[stalkerforlife]

LeBron 1.1 secondary assists per game
Kobe 0.5 secondary assists per game

http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/player/passing/

Third, fourth, etc...

Not just secondary.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Third, fourth, etc...

Not just secondary.
You said "hockey assist". that means secondary.

[stalkerforlife]

You said "hockey assist". that means secondary.

Be objective.

[Megabox!]

LeBron 1.1 secondary assists per game
Kobe 0.5 secondary assists per game

http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/player/passing/
Well damn

[J Shuttlesworth]

damn stalkerforlife just got eaten apart

[stalkerforlife]

damn stalkerforlife just got eaten apart

Wanna fight?

[3ball]

You said "hockey assist". that means secondary.
kobe did whatever it took to win, which included 3rd, 4th and 5th assists.

contrastingly, lebron-ball puts a ceiling on his team's capability.

for example, kobe's teams were never as anemic as the lebron-ball-inspired 92 ORtg the Heat put up against the Spurs in 2014 Finals...

that would be impossible for a Kobe-led team, because he wasn't out there stat-padding and marginalizing anyone.. he was trying to win.

[kennethgriffin]

kobe won 5 championships as his teams #1 playmaker/assist leader


whens the countdown for lebron catching kobe in that department



































:lol

[stalkerforlife]

kobe did whatever it took to win, which included 3rd, 4th and 5th assists.

contrastingly, lebron-ball puts a ceiling on his team's capability.

for example, kobe's teams were never as anemic as the lebron-ball-inspired 92 ORtg the Heat put up against the Spurs in 2014 Finals...

that would be impossible for a Kobe-led team, because he wasn't out there stat-padding and marginalizing anyone.. he was trying to win.

:applause:

[ImKobe]

Kobe won 5 rings while being a complete cancer and a chucker

Lebron up to this point could hardly win 2 while being the best teammate he could be :kobe:

[stalkerforlife]

kobe won 5 championships as his teams #1 playmaker/assist leader


whens the countdown for lebron catching kobe in that department



































:lol

Just posted it and it was deleted.

Hypocrisy. Poor management.

Kobe >

[navy]

for example, kobe's teams were never as anemic as the lebron-ball-inspired 92 ORtg the Heat put up against the Spurs in 2014 Finals...


http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2014_finals.html#SAS-MIA

Why are you always lying?

The Heat offensive rating was 104.8. That's 12 higher than the number you randomly posted.

[riseagainst]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2014_finals.html#SAS-MIA

Why are you always lying?

The Heat offensive rating was 104.8. That's 12 higher than the number you randomly posted.

prolly meant 92 points.

[navy]

prolly meant 92 points.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2010_finals.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2004_finals.html

Then he is still lying.

[riseagainst]

Then he is still lying.

Heat averaged 91.6 points a game.
:confusedshrug:

[navy]

Heat averaged 91.6 points a game.
:confusedshrug:
Yeah and here is his post. Either way he is lying. The Heat were at a 104 rating and Kobe's teams have averaged less points than 92 ppg. In fact ppg is not even a relevant finals statistic as several finals from multiple years have been lower.



for example, kobe's teams were never as anemic as the lebron-ball-inspired 92 ORtg the Heat put up against the Spurs in 2014 Finals...




Dude is a chronic liar. inb4 he starts spamming gifs

[Keno]

passing kobe in assists in like 8 less seasons. :roll:

[imdaman99]

He's already past him in Finals losses in like 8 less seasons. :roll: