Lebron tweets this picture

[JohnMax]

https://twitter.com/KingJames/status/537079866802589696

http://i.imgur.com/TYz9j02.jpg

[stalkerforlife]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4UK0v9uTMM

Black cops kill unarmed white teen.

[Dengness9]

I have no opinion on whether those two deserved to die but it's also a sham treating them like they weren't engaging in criminal activity.


Brons a ****ing idiot anyway so whatever.

[handbanana]

should have tweeted this one

http://i.imgur.com/tsCoR9C.jpg

[inclinerator]

lol yea lebron basically killed mike brown's career

[Dresta]

An uneducated buffoon reverts to his tribal sentiments at the first available opportunity? No surprise there...

[CelticBaller]

lebron should join them and steal MJ's rings

[russwest0]

Didn't Kobe call LeBron a bitch for this a while back?

[Haymaker]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4UK0v9uTMM

Black cops kill unarmed white teen.

Isolated incident.

[MavsSuperFan]

should have tweeted this one

http://i.imgur.com/tsCoR9C.jpg
:lol

[moaz]

An uneducated buffoon reverts to his tribal sentiments at the first available opportunity? No surprise there...

Another half intellectual would have been St

[MavsSuperFan]

Before anyone claims that some great injustices occurred you should at least review these 2 links.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/11/25/us/evidence-released-in-michael-brown-case.html?_r=0

those are the grand jury documents (the evidence they saw to arrive at their decision)

The grand jury was 12 random people from the Ferguson community

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dd5sQEI_chs&list=UUupvZG-5ko_eiXAupbDfxWw

That is the video of the prosecutor explaining the decision not to indict.

[ivienthol]

There's only one race and that's the human race under God. People who think otherwise are gonna be severely disappointed come Judgement Day.

[chips93]

Before anyone claims that some great injustices occurred you should at least review these 2 links.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/11/25/us/evidence-released-in-michael-brown-case.html?_r=0

those are the grand jury documents (the evidence they saw to arrive at their decision)

The grand jury was 12 random people from the Ferguson community

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dd5sQEI_chs&list=UUupvZG-5ko_eiXAupbDfxWw

That is the video of the prosecutor explaining the decision not to indict.

we aint got time for that

you have anything shorter?

[Nash]

He actually had a great neutral message.


As a society how do we do better and stop things like this happening time after time!! I'm so sorry to these families. Violence is not the answer people. Retaliation isn't the solution as well. #PrayersUpToTheFamilies #WeHaveToDoBetter
'Violence is not the answer, retaliation isn't the solution either'. I think thats a pretty good message that everybody could get behind.

[3ball]

it's amazing most people are making the leap in their minds, that after being shot and running away, it is more likely that Brown turned around and attacked the officer, than turned around to surrender.

it makes no sense why someone that began to run away BECAUSE THEY HAD BEEN SHOT TWICE, would then turn around and attack the armed officer - why would anyone do that?... would anyone here do that?

isn't it more likely that brown decided to turn around and surrender instead?
.

[Eric Cartman]

He actually had a great neutral message.


'Violence is not the answer, retaliation isn't the solution either'. I think thats a pretty good message that everybody could get behind.

Negro please.

[J Shuttlesworth]

He actually had a great neutral message.


'Violence is not the answer, retaliation isn't the solution either'. I think thats a pretty good message that everybody could get behind.
Well LeBron said it, so I'm pretty sure ISH will have to find a problem with it

[DukeDelonte13]

Mike Brown must have been insane. Why in the hell would a kid who just committed a strong arm robbery just straight up try an attack a cop that's sitting in his car?

I would think the moment the MB sees a cop he would try and act as inconspicuous as possible. Or just run the f*ck away.

Either MB is f*cking out of his mind, or the cop fabricated a lot of the story.

[Trollsmasher]

cretin:facepalm

[3ball]

or the cop fabricated a lot of the story.


assuming brown ran away from the officer after being shot twice, what is more likely - that he turned around and tried to attack the officer that just shot him and was still pointing a gun at him, or, that he turned around to surrender?

[DukeDelonte13]

assuming brown ran away from the officer after being shot twice, what is more likely - that he turned around and tried to attack the officer that just shot him and was still pointing a gun at him, or, that he turned around to surrender?


i read the officers testimony as:

Brown walking down the middle of the street

Brown refused to leave the middle of the street

Cop realizes this could be the robber

Cop maneuvers his car to somewhat block them

MB goes ballistic and runs up to the car and tries shutting the cop in and strikes him in the head

Cop shoots him.

[Nash]

Well LeBron said it, so I'm pretty sure ISH will have to find a problem with it
it's unbelievable, some idiot said lebron is a dumbass for what he said as if he said something controversial.

If half of the shit that's been said on ISH is said IRL people would think they are mentally ill.

[CJ Mustard]

I could care less what race the shooter/victim is, if you have to empty your clip on an unarmed man as a police officer, you flat out suck at your job. Whether Brown was a "thug" or not, he was an unarmed teenager up against a (supposedly) trained cop.

[SouBeachTalents]

There's only one race and that's the human race under God. People who think otherwise are gonna be severely disappointed come Judgement Day.

:roll:

[tpols]

Mike Brown must have been insane. Why in the hell would a kid who just committed a strong arm robbery just straight up try an attack a cop that's sitting in his car?

I would think the moment the MB sees a cop he would try and act as inconspicuous as possible. Or just run the f*ck away.

Either MB is f*cking out of his mind, or the cop fabricated a lot of the story.

Why is a kid committing strong arm robberies in the first place? His decision making ability should be questioned there first.

If youre out robbing stores.. youre probably not going to be the type of person to avoid confrontation.. common sense would dictate. Not all criminals are cunning. And judging by the fact that this 'kid' was something like 6'3 300 lbs he probably had that ego a lot of big guys have where they think they can push people around and get whatever they want because of their size.. that richie incognito syndrome.

[3ball]

i read the officers testimony as:

Brown walking down the middle of the street

Brown refused to leave the middle of the street

Cop realizes this could be the robber

Cop maneuvers his car to somewhat block them

MB goes ballistic and runs up to the car and tries shutting the cop in and strikes him in the head

Cop shoots him.
that was the altercation at the police car.

there were 8 more shots fired AFTER Brown ran away from the car.

once brown is running away from the armed officer that just shot him and is still pointing a gun at him, it is far more likely that brown was turning around to surrender rather than attack the officer.

[kennethgriffin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwWUzESOkcg

maybe black people should actually watch the video


cop - "get your hands out of your pocket"

guy filming - "hes got his gun out"

cop - "get your hands up"

( michael brown refuses )

cop - "drop the gun"

( michael brown keeps walking towards cops )

michael brown "shoot me now mother F*cker

( michael brown keeps walking towards cops )

civilian - "drop it bro"


( michael brown now within 5 feet of cops )

( cops open fire )



:facepalm

[DukeDelonte13]

i've represented many many criminals. Guys people would consider "thugs" or "gang bangers" or whatever the f*ck you want to call them. I've represented people in police brutality cases and in cases where people have attacked police officers. I've never in my career have ever heard something as ridiculous as this cop's story.

a guy just commits a strong arm robbery and is telling a uniformed cop to go f*ck himself after the cop politely asks him to move to the sidewalk? And he's carrying the cigarillos he stole in plain view? WTF?


Every single assault on an officer case either deals with cops that aren't in uniform or somebody struggling after they have been arrested. I've never heard of one where a guy just goes after a uniformed cop like this.

[pastis]

An uneducated buffoon reverts to his tribal sentiments at the first available opportunity? No surprise there...

for this you would risk being prosecuted in germany. could be interpreted as incitement of the people


and in addition you are a wade stan.:facepalm

[kennethgriffin]

dont know if this is the real mike brown shooting video. but it seems the cops were right



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwWUzESOkcg


cop - "get your hands out of your pocket"

guy filming - "hes got his gun out"

cop - "get your hands up"

( michael brown refuses )

cop - "drop the gun"

( michael brown keeps walking towards cops )

michael brown "shoot me now mother F*cker

( michael brown keeps walking towards cops )

civilian - "drop it bro"


( michael brown now within 5 feet of cops )

( cops open fire )

[CJ Mustard]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwWUzESOkcg

maybe black people should actually watch the video


cop - "get your hands out of your pocket"

guy filming - "hes got his gun out"

cop - "get your hands up"

( michael brown refuses )

cop - "drop the gun"

( michael brown keeps walking towards cops )

michael brown "shoot me now mother F*cker

( michael brown keeps walking towards cops )

civilian - "drop it bro"


( michael brown now within 5 feet of cops )

( cops open fire )



:facepalm
That isn't Mike Brown.

[3ball]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwWUzESOkcg

maybe black people should actually watch the video


cop - "get your hands out of your pocket"

guy filming - "hes got his gun out"

cop - "get your hands up"

( michael brown refuses )

cop - "drop the gun"

( michael brown keeps walking towards cops )

michael brown "shoot me now mother F*cker

( michael brown keeps walking towards cops )

civilian - "drop it bro"


( michael brown now within 5 feet of cops )

( cops open fire )



:facepalm
sorry, but no one is going to turn around and attack and officer that just shot them twice and still has the gun pointed at them.... they might turn around to surrender, but not to attack the guy that just shot them.

but keep being biased so things fit your world view.

[kennethgriffin]

That isn't Mike Brown.

whos the guy in this video then lol

[mehyaM24]

bottom line, that picture lebron posted was hyberbole.

here's brown robbing the liquor store. smh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5ga8xM8W4M

[kennethgriffin]

sorry, but no one is going to turn around and attack and officer that just shot them twice and still has the gun pointed at them.... they might turn around to surrender, but not to attack the guy that just shot them.

but keep being biased so things fit your world view.

you're the one whos biased. you just commented without even watching the video

atleast someone else watched it and let me know its the wrong vid

and i'm not biased. i just reported what i saw. but it wasnt the right vid anyway.

is there any video of the actual mike brown shooting

[kennethgriffin]

bottom line, that picture lebron posted was hyberbole.

here's brown robbing the liquor store. smh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5ga8xM8W4M

model citizen




black people should thank the cops for there being one less criminal in their their neighborhood


if a white guy was going store to store robbing and lowering the standard of where i live. putting me in danger. i'd want the cops to shoot that a**hole too

regardless of his skin colour hes a god damn scum bucket thieving degenerate lowlife thug piece of sh*t

anyone who defends criminals should be shot

f*ck lebron

[tpols]

bottom line, that picture lebron posted was hyberbole.

here's brown robbing the liquor store. smh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5ga8xM8W4M

what a fking scumbag :facepalm

Yea.. its a real shame this guy isnt around.

[IncarceratedBob]

The way I look at it is simple. One life was already ruined, why ruin another and put the guy in jail? Live and learn.

[3ball]

i just reported what i saw.


why are you posting a video of someone ELSE being shot?

we are talking about michael brown... not someone else.

to post a video of someone else being shot, and then saying that this is what happened to michael brown - well, you can get sued for stuff like this.

also, this is not biased, it's common sense:




no one is going to turn around and attack an officer that just shot them twice and still has the gun pointed at them.... they might turn around to surrender, but not to attack the guy that just shot them.

[ImKobe]

http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/whoo.pngyou called?

http://www.soraspy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/mikebrown.jpg

[AlphaWolf24]

Right or Wrong...I wish athletes did not get involved in important issues that Society needs to remedy...



ala Michael Jordan....

[r15mohd]

Right or Wrong...I wish athletes did not get involved in important issues that Society needs to remedy...

ala Michael Jordan....


well they are a public figures, especially someone like MJ or Lebron and the stardom they endure. anything they remotely feel/say is brought up and made headlining news

could care less what lebron says or does outside of bball, so long as it doesn't impact his ability to remain on the court

[MavsSuperFan]

we aint got time for that

you have anything shorter?
The video is a summary of the evidence presented to the grand jury. Just watch the video, its like 45 mins, shorter than an episode of GoT.

You dont even need to watch it, just an old white guy standing and talking and then taking questions.

Play it on your phone and listen to it on the drive to work, or while working out, etc.

[r15mohd]

The video is a summary of the evidence presented to the grand jury. Just watch the video, its like 45 mins, shorter than an episode of GoT.

You dont even need to watch it, just an old white guy standing and talking and then taking questions.

Play it on your phone and listen to it on the drive to work, or while working out, etc.

you're asking the impossible...attention span isn't that lengthy on ISH :D

[AlphaWolf24]

well they are a public figures, especially someone like MJ or Lebron and the stardom they endure. anything they remotely feel/say is brought up and made headlining news

could care less what lebron says or does outside of bball, so long as it doesn't impact his ability to remain on the court


I don't recall MJ ever saying anything about any important issues...especially the issue of Race/Racism/prejudice.


especially Since so many people look up to him ..and him being prolly the most famous athlete in teh world.

[MavsSuperFan]

i've represented many many criminals. Guys people would consider "thugs" or "gang bangers" or whatever the f*ck you want to call them. I've represented people in police brutality cases and in cases where people have attacked police officers. I've never in my career have ever heard something as ridiculous as this cop's story.

a guy just commits a strong arm robbery and is telling a uniformed cop to go f*ck himself after the cop politely asks him to move to the sidewalk? And he's carrying the cigarillos he stole in plain view? WTF?


Every single assault on an officer case either deals with cops that aren't in uniform or somebody struggling after they have been arrested. I've never heard of one where a guy just goes after a uniformed cop like this.
Where are you getting that wilson was polite? He is a cop, cops are never polite. I am white and I have never experienced a polite cop.

From what I remember reading/hearing, wilson was like "Get the **** out of the middle of the road!!!"

[r15mohd]

I don't recall MJ ever saying anything about any important issues...especially the issue of Race/Racism/prejudice.


especially Since so many people look up to him ..and him being prolly the most famous athlete in teh world.


MJ just this year spoke about him being racist to white people as a kid and young adult :rolleyes:

[AlphaWolf24]

MJ just this year spoke about him being racist to white people as a kid and young adult :rolleyes:


Wasn't that in his book?....

and he was talking about a personal experience with a white girl...

MJ has never spoke on Society's problems... especially Racism ( Not that I recall )

Not sure if he should or shouldn't..:confusedshrug:

EDIT: I actually found this qoute....“I look at this from two perspectives—as a current owner and a former player. As an owner, I’m obviously disgusted that a fellow team owner could hold such sickening and offensive views,” the New York Post quotes Jordan on Sterling. “As a former player, I’m completely outraged. There is no room in the NBA—or anywhere else—for the kind of racism and hatred that Mr. Sterling allegedly expressed."

ironic considering MJ wouldn't take a picture with Chamillionaire

[Pointguard]

https://twitter.com/KingJames/status/537079866802589696

http://i.imgur.com/TYz9j02.jpg
You guys are reading a lot into a picture that doesn't have to be there. The picture doesn't say they are even innocent. The only obvious interpretation is that these two guys have stories that weren't told from their side and were killed by gun fire. And those two guys would probably feel a need to support each other if they were to meet in another dimension. Sure the elements are loaded, but most of the interpretation is built up by one's prejudgement (prejudices) which is what good art does.

[r15mohd]

Wasn't that in his book?....

and he was talking about a personal experience with a white girl...

MJ has never spoke on Society's problems... especially Racism ( Not that I recall )

Not sure if he should or shouldn't..:confusedshrug:

he states his opinion time n again

"Michael Jordan said he's both disgusted and outraged by the racist comments allegedly made by Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling."

Link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/27/michael-jordan-don-sterling_n_5222868.html

[Akhenaten]

He immediately grabs my gun and says; "You're too much of a puzzy to shoot me"


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/Haskel45/yayoplease_zps769b65de.jpg

[WeGetRing2012]

Right or Wrong...I wish athletes did not get involved in important issues that Society needs to remedy...



ala Michael Jordan....

Ala Muhammed Ali the greatest athlete ever. Athletes are very much apart of these "important issues" because of the color of their skin.

[r15mohd]

[QUOTE=AlphaWolf24]Wasn't that in his book?....

and he was talking about a personal experience with a white girl...

MJ has never spoke on Society's problems... especially Racism ( Not that I recall )

Not sure if he should or shouldn't..:confusedshrug:

EDIT: I actually found this qoute....[B]

[mehyaM24]

You guys are reading a lot into a picture that doesn't have to be there. The picture doesn't say they are even innocent.
nah just harmless individuals (brown the "gentle giant") who were completely wronged by society.

people that cant read between the lines :facepalm

[AlphaWolf24]

doubt it was racist intent...he probably snubbed him as he prefers to associate himself with the more educated b/millionaires, rather than hip-hop built ones :confusedshrug:


absolutely....Much like in Society....most peoples prejudice are " Class " based rather then pure " Race" based....

poor or Lower "class" ( whatever that is ) have to feed the Rich....

not that it makes it any better.

[Pointguard]

You guys are reading a lot into a picture that doesn't have to be there. The picture doesn't say they are even innocent. The only obvious interpretation is that these two guys have stories that weren't told from their side and were killed by gun fire. And those two guys would probably feel a need to support each other if they were to meet in another dimension. Sure the elements are loaded, but most of the interpretation is built up by one's prejudgement (prejudices) which is what good art does.


nah just harmless individuals (brown the "gentle giant") who were completely wronged by society.

people that cant read between the lines :facepalm
You could not repost my whole post because it eliminates your response.

Good art lets you bring your experiences to the canvas. What's between the lines (as you say) is really what's between ears, once you get your understanding up. There is nothing in that picture that is a symbol of innocence. There is ton of that in your head, and therefore interprets your reality. Your pre judgement, could be interpreted as the same prejudice that killed the two men. Good art shows you the fallacy of our thoughts. You and several others, see a boogey man and want to kill it again: The story that doesn't get told but you see it in a lot of responses here.

Another person sees the name of two killed people (could be Furguson protestors but they do suggest the killed individuals) weary and supporting each other, at least those symbols are actually there on the canvas.

[mehyaM24]

You could not repost my whole post because it eliminates your response.

i highlighted what i wanted to address.


Good art lets you bring your experiences to the canvas. What's between the lines (as you say) is really what's between ears, once you get your understanding up.

people with a healthy, functional brain capable of applying logic can put 2 and 2 together and see what the picture interprets. point blank. im not going to debate semantics (what some may be perceive to be "artistic") because judging from your post history, this is what you prefer. not the meat and potatoes, but the peanut butter and jelly of the discussion.


You and several others, see a boogey man and want to kill it again: The story that doesn't get told but you see it in a lot of responses here.

you should practice what you preach, pre judging and all.

if there were a reset button, i am sure all parties would be spamming it right about now (all parties that aren't destructive beasts and shoot first / ask questions later).

of course, that is beside the point, as whats done is done and the harsh reality sets in, trying to fix and make sense of it all.

[xoracle55]

I could care less what race the shooter/victim is, if you have to empty your clip on an unarmed man as a police officer, you flat out suck at your job. Whether Brown was a "thug" or not, he was an unarmed teenager up against a (supposedly) trained cop.

:rockon:

It is very hard to fathom how a police officer can shoot an unarmed man six times, killing him, and not face trial on any charges. Most people here of course see nothing wrong with this. Just bunch of idiots.

[kennethgriffin]

Why do black people always revert to crime, stealing, vandalism, assault when they "protest"

[mehyaM24]

Why do black people always revert to crime, stealing, vandalism, assault when they "protest"
its like, you are not happy with the grand jury's decision so you are going to protest by means of breaking into stores and stealing other peoples property? i can give some of these people a little latitude to burn rubber or throw a rock or whatever, but posters legit think its ok to rob someone because you are angry at the man?

"burn this __ down!" wait, so you are going to destroy your neighbors car/store/house? think i missed the connection there...

[kennethgriffin]

its like, you are not happy with the grand jury's decision so you are going to protest by means of breaking into stores and stealing other peoples property? i can give some of these people a little latitude to burn rubber or throw a rock or whatever, but posters legit think its ok to rob someone because you are angry at the man?

"burn this __ down!" wait, so you are going to destroy your neighbors car/store/house? think i missed the connection there...



Theyre mad that one of their own got shot.... a fellow...



















Criminal

[andremiller07]

So LeBron admits to killing Mike Brown's career for no reason? He killed an unarmed coach :facepalm

[mehyaM24]

I'm going to reserve judgement on this.. we don't know the complete story. Was Michael Brown a good guy? Clearly from looking at the convenience store footage he was a bully and a thug.. that's obvious. But did he deserve to die because of that? From watching prosecutor's speech, it's obvious that the prosecutor didn't do his full due diligence in presenting the complete evidence.

If someone has their hands up and surrenders.. whether they are a POS or not shouldn't come into the equation. You don't shoot in that scenario. But again, I don't know if that was the case or not.. but that is a possibility I feel.

Also, I find it deplorable that [a few] Michael Brown supporters decided [when they didn't get their way] to riot and loot their own city. All of these people involved in the riot and damage of private and city property should be held accountable and prosecuted and jailed. Dumbasses.

I don't see anything wrong with LeBrons statement and photo he posted.. people just like to bitch for the sake of bitching. Kobe (as well as MJ prior) was hated on for the opposite reason with the Jim Brown (an old tard) comments. Let them post how they feel.. they side with the family and I don't see anything wrong with it.

on ISH: mehyaM24 (a known dumbass), kennethgriffin (unfortunately) and others should reserve their race baiting, premature judgments and stop with the hyperbole and their makebelieve fantasies. You look stupid.. sit your asses down.

thank you for saying absolutely nothing. i've been commenting on the riots, but because you are intimidated by me as a poster, im a "race baiter"? bitch please. :coleman:

[kennethgriffin]

I propose all cops be made black people. Just so the next time someone gets shot for bein an idiot. I dont have to hear about it

[mehyaM24]

:lol Bitch please.. again with the make believe fantasies. You really think you're a tough guy. :oldlol: SOFT.
:kobe:

do us all a favor and crawl back into the hole you came from. ok? you offer nothing insightful except for the occasional strawman bait. in other words - you're worthless.


I propose all cops be made black people. Just so the next time someone gets shot for bein an idiot. I dont have to hear about it

same results likely. i just find it hard to believe that this particular one, wilson, left his home that morning saying "i hope i get to shoot someone and I hope he is black." it was a split second decision on both of their parts.

[3ball]

I propose all cops be made black people. Just so the next time someone gets shot for bein an idiot. I dont have to hear about it


based on your logic, someone should shoot you, since you're an idiot.

but that doesn't make it right and doesn't mean someone should get to avoid punishment for doing it.

[daily]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwWUzESOkcg

maybe black people should actually watch the video


cop - "get your hands out of your pocket"

guy filming - "hes got his gun out"

cop - "get your hands up"

( michael brown refuses )

cop - "drop the gun"

( michael brown keeps walking towards cops )

michael brown "shoot me now mother F*cker

( michael brown keeps walking towards cops )

civilian - "drop it bro"


( michael brown now within 5 feet of cops )

( cops open fire )



:facepalm

that's not the Brown shooting we're talking about...

[RRR3]

ISH idiocy strikes again, with some pretty blatant racism from a few posters.
I'm from the area, and while I'm in Oregon now, I went back home to visit a little while after the shooting. My mom took me to a panel at the university she teaches where they discussed the shooting.

Here's my opinion: It really doesn't matter if Mike Brown was the worst person ever-the fact is dude was unarmed, was shot at while fleeing, and according to some witnesses was holding his hands up in surrender. Being a "thug", if we're going to pigeonhole him as such, is not an excuse for murder.


Something else you guys may not know:
His body was left in the streets for HOURS. Little kids saw that. He was gunned down and left to rot in the street how on earth is this ok?

[Pointguard]

people with a healthy, functional brain capable of applying logic can put 2 and 2 together and see what the picture interprets. point blank. im not going to debate semantics (what some may be perceive to be "artistic") because judging from your post history, this is what you prefer. not the meat and potatoes, but the peanut butter and jelly of the discussion.

I can do both because I lived in both worlds. Art involves another dimension beyond pure logic. Whichever way you want to go I will be happy to go there with you. As I see from other posters on this page, you prefer looney tunes rather than food.

The picture is more about emotions than it is logical. Maybe that's why you are lead astray - bamboozled. Everybody has a loaded interpretation of what they are seeing. Its about that. Its not about logic at all. But you might think you are being logical but you are far from it. You are loaded with emotions/prejudices that are not factually in that picture but do all the interpretation for you.

[Heavincent]

His body was left in the streets for HOURS. Little kids saw that. He was gunned down and left to rot in the street how on earth is this ok?

yall wanna see a dead body?

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m97tdskshd1qcpo3ko1_500.jpg

[mehyaM24]

:facepalm :facepalm

You are one pathetic and weak individual. Ever since I posted a clip of myself shooting hoops in the 100 shots thread, you've been following me around every single thread attempting your best contrarian act.. It got to the point where you'd quote me and say "this was a stupid post" and then continue to say pretty much the same thing.. by far one of the most bizarre troll jobs I've seen on here.

hey dimwit, i was the one who originally posted my thoughts here...you followed, quoting me yearning for my attention, as per usual.

i am going to draw the line here though... not gonna waste my time arguing with some loony toon stalker infatuated with my posting.


Conversely, ever since KennethGriffin posted a clip of him showing he's a white dude, you've been on his nuts sucking up to him left and right. In that very same thread you hated on my clip (granted, it wasn't that good anyways) and payed homage to Grif.

i dont even.... :biggums:

[lilteapot]

LeBron said nothing wrong and took no sides in that tweet.

[kennethgriffin]

based on your logic, someone should shoot you, since you're an idiot.

but that doesn't make it right and doesn't mean someone should get to avoid punishment for doing it.


I've never robbed a store, set buildings and cars on fire or attacked police/riot officers


I'm a law abiding citizen

Kaythanksbye

[mehyaM24]

I can do both because I lived in both worlds. Art involves another dimension beyond pure logic. Whichever way you want to go I will be happy to go there with you. As I see from other posters on this page, you prefer looney tunes rather than food.

The picture is more about emotions than it is logical. Maybe that's why you are lead astray - bamboozled. Everybody has a loaded interpretation of what they are seeing. Its about that. Its not about logic at all. But you might think you are being logical but you are far from it. You are loaded with emotions/prejudices that are not factually in that picture but do all the interpretation for you.

as i said, i am not going to debate the meaning behind the picture. you're notorious for making a mountain out of a molehole. simply put, i dont have the patience for your nonsensical drivel.

this discussion has evolved into the riots and what they mean for the community and people all over the world, watching.

and from an outsider looking in because these people didn't get their way, they burned businesses to the ground that had no connection to the shooting, and vandalized property belonging to people who had no connection. SMH.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Alborz' BFF getting used and abused in here. :oldlol: Resort to posting pics of another male's used condoms. Creepy and disturbing.

[Dresta]

[QUOTE=moaz]Another half intellectual would have been St

[mehyaM24]

Alborz' BFF getting used and abused in here. :oldlol: Resort to posting pics of another male's used condoms. Creepy and disturbing.
dude is a quintesential loser/stalker. yearns for my attention as you can see. i would tell him to take his meds, but i've done so before, again and again... :oldlol:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=354571&page=12

[SamuraiSWISH]

What purpose does rioting serve?

It endangers innocents, creates property damage, some for small business owners.

And all it really does is reinforce the stereotypes that blacks are emotional, violent animals (hi Westbrook)prone to outbursts ... which in turn facilitates scum bag, racist, entitled crooked cops to use excessive force without probable cause.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

1. Who the **** is Alborz? BFF? :roll:
2. Speaking of BFF.. This isn't the first time you've attempted to back mehyaM24, what's the connection?

Needs more used condom pics...

Derp.

[mehyaM24]

please answer this question for me:

do you think that after getting shot twice by the cop and fleeing, that it is more likely Brown turned around on the same gun-drawn, pursuing cop and ATTACKED the cop, or surrendered to the cop?
you are asking the wrong person this question. i dont have enough evidence to say any other way. :confusedshrug:

[3ball]

as i said, i am not going to debate the meaning behind the picture. you're notorious for making a mountain out of a molehole. simply put, i dont have the patience for your nonsensical drivel.

this discussion has evolved into the riots and what they mean for the community and people all over the world, watching.

and from an outsider looking in because these people didn't get their way, they burned businesses to the ground that had no connection to the shooting, and vandalized property belonging to people who had no connection.. SMH.
please answer this question for me:

do you think that after getting shot twice by the cop and fleeing, that it is more likely Brown turned around on the same gun-drawn, pursuing cop and ATTACKED the cop, or surrendered to the cop?

[mehyaM24]

please answer this question for me:

do you think that after getting shot twice by the cop and fleeing, that it is more likely Brown turned around on the same gun-drawn, pursuing cop and ATTACKED the cop, or surrendered to the cop?
bro why are you repeatedly spamming? you have asked me this question 3 times.....deleting your posts twice already......

[3ball]

you are asking the wrong person this question. i dont have enough evidence to say any other way. :confusedshrug:
you're playing dumb when you know better, just because you don't want to admit that some shit could be racist.

a kindergartner could tell you that brown was more likely to be surrendering to his gun-drawn, pursuing cop that had already shot him, than attacking said cop.

that's common sense.... just based on that alone, and multiple witnesses, there should have been a trial... and there WOULD have been, if Brown was white.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

... Go on..
About what? That I'm shaqpopcorn34/mehyA or whatever he goes by on youtube? Like you, he's a troll.. A better one than yourself I might add. :lol

[SamuraiSWISH]

I used to talk to both Alborz, and ImmortalD24 on AIM. Yao Ming's Foot feels like Alborz more than anyone. The psychotic way he just repeats himself, and repeats himself. Willingly ignoring the logic or context of everything is very much his modus operandi.

Alborz aka KB42PAH is the same dude who stalked Kobe into a bathroom at a Wedding he wasn't invited to and took a picture with Kobe in the men's room. And the look on Kobe's face is of being utterly horrified at the creepiness.

I don't know if Immortal is ImmortalD24. But both seem to be black men from Canada. So it's possible. Immortal has heavy attention seeking, troll like tendancies doe.

[gts]

please answer this question for me:

do you think that after getting shot twice by the cop and fleeing, that it is more likely Brown turned around on the same gun-drawn, pursuing cop and ATTACKED the cop, or surrendered to the cop?

i'm rounding off the numbers but looking at the forensic evidence using his blood trail (in the court papers) looks like he walked away from the cop and the cruiser down the street about 175 feet then turned around and walked back towards the cop about 25 feet, the cop had been following and they were about 15 feet apart when the fatal shots were fired

i'm sure somebody will make a reenactment video soon enough

[Joyner82reload]

Someone who grew up with a single parent who was a crackwhore thinks there is something unjust in Ferguson, no surprise.

[IGOTGAME]

An uneducated buffoon reverts to his tribal sentiments at the first available opportunity? No surprise there...

where did you go to school? just curious.

[Joyner82reload]

Also just out of curiosity, if you are unarmed then at what point does a police officer have just cause to shoot you? Why the hell would anyone surrender to a cop when they draw their gun if they have no right to shoot you unless you're armed as well? Even if you assault the officer or run, they have no right to shoot you. Hell if you are bigger/faster than the 95% of the population, then you should be a very capable career criminal with no threat from police. Apparently it's ok to even assault as officer as long as you aren't armed.

[3ball]

i'm rounding off the numbers but looking at the forensic evidence using his blood trail (in the court papers) looks like he walked away from the cop and the cruiser down the street about 175 feet then turned around and walked back towards the cop about 25 feet, the cop had been following and they were about 15 feet apart when the fatal shots were fired

i'm sure somebody will make a reenactment video soon enough
according to the man accused of murdering Brown.

sounds like you take him at his word.... :applause: ... if all cases could be so easy.

but in reality, a kindergartner could tell you that brown was more likely to be surrendering to his gun-drawn, pursuing cop that had already shot him, than attacking said cop.

that's common sense.... just based on that alone, and multiple witnesses, there should have been a trial... and there WOULD have been, if Brown was white.

any other conclusions are just people playing dumb when they know better, or maybe they don't know better and actually think no racism exists anymore.

[mehyaM24]

I don't know if Immortal is ImmortalD24. But both seem to be black men from Canada. So it's possible. Immortal has heavy attention seeking, troll like tendancies doe.

guy is a massive cornball, pissed that i clowned his basketball mixtape. :oldlol: ever since, he's been following me around trying to throw strawman bait (itt, apparently im a "race baiter").

my intelligence and opinions obviously get him very emotional, but there is no need to act like a psycho ex-girlfriend about it. :biggums:



What purpose does rioting serve?

It endangers innocents, creates property damage, some for small business owners.

And all it really does is reinforce the stereotypes that blacks are emotional, violent animals (hi Westbrook)prone to outbursts ... which in turn facilitates scum bag, racist, entitled crooked cops to use excessive force without probable cause.

like, how is this type of behavior acceptable for any race? there will be consequences for their actions and it is just a matter of time before they will reap what they sow. following the law and having respect for our justice system is what separates the us from any other country. we have a right to protest but not to act like common criminals while doing so.

[gts]

according to the man accused of murdering Brown.

sounds like you take him at his word.... :applause: ... if all cases could be so easy.

but in reality, a kindergartner could tell you that brown was more likely to be surrendering to his gun-drawn, pursuing cop that had already shot him, than attacking said cop.

that's common sense.... just based on that alone, and multiple witnesses, there should have been a trial... and there WOULD have been, if Brown was white.

any other conclusions are just people playing dumb when they know better, or maybe they don't know better and actually think no racism exists anymore.:facepalm

What part of "but looking at the forensic evidence using his blood trail (in the court papers)" are you having trouble with?

This has nothing to do with the cops testimony, it was from the investigators on the scene and their diagrams, where the blood drops were, were the shell casing were, where the body was in relationship etc etc etc

nowhere in my post did i mention the cops testimony, smarten up if you're going to discuss big boy things

[Joyner82reload]

I would also like to state that there are indeed racist police officers as well as those out there with a chip on their shoulders. Does that mean they go around practicing racial discrimination and target blacks when they're on the job? Absolutely not. Do black people really believe that a police officer, racist or not, is going to try and find black males in their youth to gun down out of bigotry? Ya, let me just go ahead and throw my entire career away while potentially setting myself up for a life in prison so I can shoot some black kid out of hate. That's absurd.

[Foster5k]

There's so many angles to look at this. One could say it's a race issue, class issue, police issue, government issue, parenting issue, etc. I thinking it's a little of everything.

When the smoke clears, I just hope these same people doing all this rioting/looting/etc are also putting in positive work to actually help the community. Help clean up the mess you made. Help educate the youth about their rights. Help bring jobs into the community. Work hard and teach others the value of an education and hard work. Truly, they all can make Ferguson a better place for everyone. Let's hope that's the end result of this chaos.

[3ball]

:facepalm

What part of "but looking at the forensic evidence using his blood trail (in the court papers)" are you having trouble with?

This has nothing to do with the cops testimony, it was from the investigators on the scene and their diagrams, where the blood drops were, were the shell casing were, where the body was in relationship etc etc etc

nowhere in my post did i mention the cops testimony, smarten up if you're going to discuss big boy things
there will be many ways to interpret that forensic data.

and what i'm saying, is that a kindergartner could tell you that brown was more likely to be surrendering to his gun-drawn, pursuing cop that had already shot him, than attacking said cop.

accordingly, that will be one of the interpretations of the forensic evidence and should be the primary way the evidence is looked at, barring anything substantial to change this approach.

this is how it would be done with a white victim - everyone would assume he was surrendering to a gun-drawn, pursuing cop that had already shot them twice, not attacking said cop.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Never heard of him.. also, hop off my dick you creepy turd bucket. :facepalm ******.

You're not that special, you goofy poster.

Well maybe you're special, but in the short yellow bus way.

:cheers:

[SamuraiSWISH]

Which is quite bizzare to infatuate about to begin with.
I'm infatuated?


Also, not sure why you got the impression but, I'm not Canadian. Where did you get that idea? In fact, I don't think I've ever mentioned my nationality.. but I am black (as I pointed out numerous times and seen in the clips I've posted).
It's cool. You might not be him. I really don't care even if you were ImmortalD24, bro. Makes no difference to me. You are a troll here on ISH though. But yeah ...

:oldlol:

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

:facepalm

Brah, if it's patently obvious that either you're a complete retard and/ or you have a thing for me (big black men).. If it's a latter: I'm not homophobic but I don't swing that way. You'll have to look elsewhere for the bbc action all up in your rectum.. Good luck. ******.

Look how pissed you're getting when I quote your posts. :roll: Relax dude, like I said, you're not THAT special. I see the internet has inflated your already massive head.

[KOBEtherealKing]

There's only one race and that's the human race under God. People who think otherwise are gonna be severely disappointed come Judgement Day.
:roll: :roll: at the bolded. are you white? Because that is what a white person would say.

[Graviton]

Guys cmon, ISH is a family. This drama is not needed. Please just hug it out.I lied, keep going.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

My massive head.. :kobe:

You're very sensitive. They have help for that ya know? :confusedshrug:

[SamuraiSWISH]

:roll: :roll: at the bolded. are you white? Because that is what a white person would say.
Are you black or brown? Because this what sounds like a "woe is us", antiquated minority statement would make.

Bruh, the PRESIDENT of the free world is an African American. No more excuses. Both whites, and blacks cling to ancient ideas of race to define people.

[mehyaM24]

You're very sensitive. They have help for that ya know? :confusedshrug:
he is an emotional wreck, all over me clowning his bball skillz. its obvious he lives on here with the emotionally charged laden responses, desperately wanting to be liked on an internet forum.

lol immortal.....not everyone sits around worrying about everyone's feelings. should I call you fvckboy? would that make you feel more at home?

[Graviton]

No point in wasting time with kuniva_dAMiGhTy - a complete lowlife scum who is rendered to one liners when not sucking MJ off. Now lets get back on topic.
Dude that's low, how you gonna call someone that, then expect people to have a civil discussion with you. At least try to restrain yourself first and act like an adult, using such words makes all your other points irrelevant. You could have just said he is the cumshot his mom shoulda swallowed and moved on, but calling him a "lowlife scum" and attacking his character is totally uncalled for.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

I'm a troll desperate for attention

Yeah, we knew that already, you sad and lonely man.

Keep on trucking, troll. We're here for ya :cheers:

[SamuraiSWISH]

No point in wasting time with kuniva_dAMiGhTy - a complete lowlife scum who is rendered to one liners when not verbally (and if he could physically) suckling MJ off. Now lets get back on topic.
He's not that bad. Lately he just likes getting into conflict. Long time respected member here though. No offense but you're more of a new buck. I don't have any issues with you BTW besides your attention seeking troll posts.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Dude that's low, how you gonna call someone that, then expect people to have a civil discussion with you. At least try to restrain yourself first and act like an adult, using such words makes all your other points irrelevant. You could have just said he is the cumshot his mom shoulda swallowed and moved on, but calling him a "lowlife scum" and attacking his character is totally uncalled for.
You know a thread has hit rock bottom, when Westbrook's KB42PAH has arrived.

http://www.gifsforum.com/images/gif/i%27m%20out%20of%20here/grand/seinfeld-George-Costanza-im-out-of-here-eccbc87e4b5ce2fe28308fd9f2a7baf3-345.gif

Deuces!

[Graviton]

You know a thread has hit rock bottom, when Westbrook's KB42PAH has arrived.

http://www.gifsforum.com/images/gif/i%27m%20out%20of%20here/grand/seinfeld-George-Costanza-im-out-of-here-eccbc87e4b5ce2fe28308fd9f2a7baf3-345.gif

Deuces!
Wtf is KB42PAH?

Anyway I am just ****ing around, nothing actually targeted at you. More at Immortal's word choice.

[mehyaM24]

Wtf is KB42PAH?
read samurai's post a few pages back. he is the king of all stans.

anyway, this topic has been reduced to trolling because of immortal's irregular sensitivity and baiting. nobody is feeling sorry for you pathetic clown, move on and rebut my posts with something tangible besides "race baiting".

[Graviton]

read samurai's post a few pages back. he is the king of all stans.

anyway, this topic has been reduced to trolling because of immortal's irregular sensitivity and trolling. nobody is feeling sorry for you pathetic clown, move on and rebut my posts with something tangible besides "race baiting".
Ah i see.

Slow day on ISH, Lebron thread dies before reaching page 10. :(

[AlphaWolf24]

He's not that bad. Lately he just likes getting into conflict. Long time respected member here though. No offense but you're more of a new buck. I don't have any issues with you BTW besides your attention seeking troll posts.

Samurai....you a straight Ho...

#1. You talk a lot alot of ish about being able to ball.....yet you scared as F@ck to post any videos....

you are the proto typical Jordan Stan.... I see the B!tch in yo eye...


#2.:lol :lol :lol :lol You neg me and because I said MJ "pushed off"..

B!tch I don't give a F@ck about little green blocks.....It was a "Push off".... " extended his off hand on Russ's back....

#3 I aint Mad at ya.....you just batsh!t crazy ....and scrub who can't ball to save his life.....prolly got hands like feet to...uncoordinated bastard....




Of course you can prove me wrong and make me eat crow.....If you post a vid showing yer skills... but until then.....You is a Capital B!tch......at least Kobe stans be posting Videos......unlike yo B!ych azz.

[Graviton]

Samurai....you a straight Ho...

#1. You talk a lot alot of ish about being able to ball.....yet you scared as F@ck to post any videos....

you are the proto typical Jordan Stan.... I see the B!tch in yo eye...


#2.:lol :lol :lol :lol You neg me and because I said MJ "pushed off"..

B!tch I don't give a F@ck about green blocks.....It was a "Push off".... " extended his off hand on Russ's back....

#3 I aint Mad at ya.....you just batsh!t crazy ....and scrub who can't ball to save his life.....prolly got hands like feet to...uncoordinated bastard....

Damn Swish, you gonna take that from a Kobe stan?

[AlphaWolf24]

Damn Swish, you gonna take that from a Kobe stan?


Hell yeah he's gonna take it......he just talks about his game.....F@ck that...he can't even talk right now because my **** is all up in his mouth...

just like when Kobe dropped 55 on MJ..... Samurai B!sh....more like Beverly Hills ninja you fat bastard.

[L8kersfan222]

Samurai....you a straight Ho...

#1. You talk a lot alot of ish about being able to ball.....yet you scared as F@ck to post any videos....

you are the proto typical Jordan Stan.... I see the B!tch in yo eye...


#2.:lol :lol :lol :lol You neg me and because I said MJ "pushed off"..

B!tch I don't give a F@ck about little green blocks.....It was a "Push off".... " extended his off hand on Russ's back....

#3 I aint Mad at ya.....you just batsh!t crazy ....and scrub who can't ball to save his life.....prolly got hands like feet to...uncoordinated bastard....




Of course you can prove me wrong and make me eat crow.....If you post a vid showing yer skills... but until then.....You is a Capital B!tch......at least Kobe stans be posting Videos......unlike yo B!ych azz.
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[SamuraiSWISH]

#1. You talk a lot alot of ish about being able to ball.....yet you scared as F@ck to post any videos....
I know, my buddy Aaron is going to have to get behind the camera the next time we play pick up. Good call.


#2.:lol :lol :lol :lol You neg me and because I said MJ "pushed off"
I told you why though ... you were trolling, bruh. You deserved it

Happy Thanksgiving doe, Wolf.

:oldlol:

[AlphaWolf24]

I know, my buddy Aaron is going to have to get behind the camera the next time we play pick up. Good call.


I told you why though ... you were trolling, bruh. You deserved it

Happy Thanksgiving doe, Wolf.

:oldlol:


http://static3.businessinsider.com/image/5450f0c469beddc803b33573/kobe%20bryant%20calls%20dwight%20howard%20soft%20g if.gif

[magictricked]

Looking forward to it.. oh and not that I care, but was that neg really necessary? :oldlol: (assuming it's you)Why you answering posts not directed at you?

wrong account :lol

[moaz]

My family was actually oppressed by nazism, with one suffering in one of their camps
After reading your first post he would be so proud of you. He sure would have regretted not having your ideas while in camp. They would have been a great common subject to discuss with the guards.


Another moron who's congenitally incapable of discussing anything sensibly, and so proves Godwin's law at the first available opportunity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law
What does nazi ideology have to do with anything you pathetic waste of human life? My family was actually oppressed by nazism, with one suffering in one of their camps, so go suck a dick.
To make another member of your family proud, please show this post (along with the first) to your mom.

[3ball]

Bruh, the PRESIDENT of the free world is an African American. No more excuses. Both whites, and blacks cling to ancient ideas of race to define people.


what do you think is the reason for the current socioeconomic disparity between blacks and whites?

[3ball]

this is how it would be done with a white victim - everyone would come to the natural conclusion that he was surrendering to a gun-drawn, pursuing cop that had already shot him twice, instead of attacking said cop.

but with the black victim, the ridiculous notion that he would attack a gun-drawn cop that had already shot him, is not only completely plausible, but likely.
.

[Pointguard]

as i said, i am not going to debate the meaning behind the picture.

You are admitting that your role in this thread is beyond your understanding then. Look at the title of the thread and then the logic of your statement.


you're notorious for making a mountain out of a molehole. simply put,
Molehill for termites and thats where you are at. People talk about you like you are garbage here. In this thread alone much less many others. Anyway basic fundamental of participating in the thread requires understanding the picture.


this discussion has evolved into the riots and what they mean for the community and people all over the world, watching.
That discussion wouldn't even be on this board. Its on another board. This is about the picture.


and from an outsider looking in because these people didn't get their way, they burned businesses to the ground that had no connection to the shooting, and vandalized property belonging to people who had no connection. SMH.
You can't understand a picture and now you are going to pretend that you understand people when its obvious you don't see people much. That you don't understand people. And that they don't like you? Yeah, good try.

[SpanishACB]

it's amazing most people are making the leap in their minds, that after being shot and running away, it is more likely that Brown turned around and attacked the officer, than turned around to surrender.

it makes no sense why someone that began to run away BECAUSE THEY HAD BEEN SHOT TWICE, would then turn around and attack the armed officer - why would anyone do that?... would anyone here do that?

isn't it more likely that brown decided to turn around and surrender instead?
.

because the cop ran out of bullets duh

[Dresta]

After reading your first post he would be so proud of you. He sure would have regretted not having your ideas while in camp. They would have been a great common subject to discuss with the guards.


To make another member of your family proud, please show this post (along with the first) to your mom.
What are you blabbering about foolish boy? Please point out a single point i've made on this site that is congruous with nazi ideology, because there isn't one.

Just reverting to the spurious and pathetic ad hominems that is so common to your type of blind ideologue. No substance, no debate, just 'you're a racist nazi' - i guess this is how an inferior and ignorant persons make themselves feel superior to their betters.

[Foster5k]

I'm somewhat changing my mind on this case.

Something sounds fishy about officer Darren Wilson's story. If you haven't heard him tell his side of the story, please look it up. It is pretty hard to believe those events actually happened the way he said it did.

Maybe these protesters are on to something.

[r15mohd]

ISH idiocy strikes again, with some pretty blatant racism from a few posters.
I'm from the area, and while I'm in Oregon now, I went back home to visit a little while after the shooting. My mom took me to a panel at the university she teaches where they discussed the shooting.

Here's my opinion: It really doesn't matter if Mike Brown was the worst person ever-the fact is dude was unarmed, was shot at while fleeing, and according to some witnesses was holding his hands up in surrender. Being a "thug", if we're going to pigeonhole him as such, is not an excuse for murder.


Something else you guys may not know:
His body was left in the streets for HOURS. Little kids saw that. He was gunned down and left to rot in the street how on earth is this ok?

that's apart of any shooting/death situation...they don;t remove the body until forensic folks, investigators, etc. do their rounds of the scene to ensure they have what's needed. it's not uncommon, it's actually fully warranted. now out of respect for the victim, they should of pulled the yellow tarp over his body when that particular area was not in use for investigations. you can certainly complain on the latter, but the aforementioned you can't.

[r15mohd]

I'm somewhat changing my mind on this case.

Something sounds fishy about officer Darren Wilson's story. If you haven't heard him tell his side of the story, please look it up. It is pretty hard to believe those events actually happened the way he said it did.

Maybe these protesters are on to something.


I'd go by witness stories more so than the cops...a lot of them have changed their stories, initially Brown was running away from the officer when shot. after forensics showed the shots were made oncoming to Brown, they all dumped the initial story, some even came forward saying they didn't directly see what happened but now hear-say, so even their interpretation of the incident is invalid.

I'm not saying the cop is right, but with the change in some of the witnesses statements to the complete opposite, it can only show Brown may be at fault just as well. :confusedshrug:

[Magic 32]

Lebron wants to be Ali.

Ends up like Mayweather.

[moaz]

What are you blabbering about foolish boy? Please point out a single point i've made on this site that is congruous with nazi ideology, because there isn't one.

Just reverting to the spurious and pathetic ad hominems that is so common to your type of blind ideologue. No substance, no debate, just 'you're a racist nazi' - i guess this is how an inferior and ignorant persons make themselves feel superior to their betters.
Half-intellectual. Quod erat demonstrandum
Difficile est satiram non scribere :roll: :roll: :roll:

[stanlove1111]

this is how it would be done with a white victim - everyone would come to the natural conclusion that he was surrendering to a gun-drawn, pursuing cop that had already shot him twice, instead of attacking said cop.

but with the black victim, the ridiculous notion that he would attack a gun-drawn cop that had already shot him, is not only completely plausible, but likely.
.

Your just pulling this right out of your backside....Irrational...

[mehyaM24]

You are admitting that your role in this thread is beyond your understanding then. Look at the title of the thread and then the logic of your statement.
try to keep up. my initial interpretation of the picture has been posted, and as you can see, most would concede that it is hyperbole.


Molehill for termites and thats where you are at. People talk about you like you are garbage here.
who? that one poster "immortal"? he's obviously intimidated by intelligence and superior basketball knowledge, so he follows me into threads looking to bait.

you? you're a known liar evidenced by dmavs41 completely exposing your idiocy in debates. of course - you compensate for your lack of knowledge by straying away from topics, focusing on red-herrings. like so.


That discussion wouldn't even be on this board. Its on another board. This is about the picture.

reading is fundamental. this discussion has evolved into the ACTUAL case and the subsequent riots.

check the OT lounge for reference.


You can't understand a picture and now you are going to pretend that you understand people when its obvious you don't see people much. That you don't understand people. And that they don't like you? Yeah, good try.
i work in telecommunications and deal with all sorts of people. you're easy to gauge. an insecure male projecting his insecurities onto others by means of straw-man debate. its a nice tactic, but just like most of your posts, you fail to execute actual substance.

most of us understand the picture, you literally just described your emotions, stapling it onto this piece of "art".

tldr; more pb and j, hold the logic.

[Pointguard]

try to keep up. my initial interpretation of the picture has been posted, and as you can see, most would concede that it is hyperbole.
So you think you are right, even after I asked you to show me one representation of your interpretation in the picture??? You see names and you think it's a license to let your faulty logic to run rampant and supersede what's in the picture.



dmavs41 completely exposing your idiocy in debates. of course - you compensate for your lack of knowledge by straying away from topics, focusing on red-herrings. like so.
Maybe you can list my debates with Dmavs and you can show me which ones your drugs convinced you of this madness? Really? You think Houston last year in the playoffs had a better offense than SA? That Monta Ellis is better than healthy Rose? This is what happens when you don't have any interpretation skills whatsoever. You are like a binbo on steroids.


i work in telecommunications and deal with all sorts of people. you're easy to gauge. an insecure male projecting his insecurities onto others by means of straw-man debate. its a nice tactic, but just like most of your posts, you fail to execute actual substance. I just told you how to interpret art. But you had no formal training so it went waaaay over your head.

You are one of the biggest sheep on this board. You never have an original thought. Please, show one thread where you show originality or a well thought out theory? Just one. While you are at it show me one insecure thought you might even imagine I have. You are a sheep, something in art that symbolizes a lack independence and the herd mentality? You think a sheep can interpret the courage of a Lion? Or even think he can rank it?


most of us understand the picture, you literally just described your emotions, stapling it onto this piece of "art".

Why is is that I can quote great artist or art critics with the same thought as mine? And you??? Art will show you your own prejudices. Its that simple.

[ArbitraryWater]

wtf is Pointguard talking about

[3ball]

Your just pulling this right out of your backside....Irrational...
not at all.. common sense and deductive reasoning is important.

with a black victim, things that fly in the face of common sense become completely plausible - it's completely plausible to many that after being shot in the car and fleeing while bleeding, Michael Brown is more likely to turn around and attack a gun-drawn, pursuing cop from 40 feet away, than surrender to said cop.

especially from so far away - no one would ever think they could bumrush a gun-drawn, pursuing cop from 40 feet out, when the cop has already shown that he will shoot, has shot you, and has already made you bleed profusely.

with a white victim, the more common sense logic would be the prevailing opinion: when a cop shoots you twice and then pursues you gun-drawn, you are much more likely to turn around and surrender, than turn around and attack the gun-drawn cop that had already shot you and made you bleed profusely.

the criminal justice system uses a lot more common sense when dealing with white victims and perpetrators.

[stanlove1111]

not at all.. common sense and deductive reasoning is important.

with a black victim, things that fly in the face of common sense become completely plausible - it's completely plausible to many that after being shot in the car and fleeing while bleeding, Michael Brown is more likely to turn around and attack a gun-drawn, pursuing cop from 40 feet away, than surrender to said cop.

especially from so far away - no one would ever think they could bumrush a gun-drawn, pursuing cop from 40 feet out, when the cop has already shown that he will shoot, has shot you, and has already made you bleed profusely.

with a white victim, the more common sense logic would be the prevailing opinion: when a cop shoots you twice and then pursues you gun-drawn, you are much more likely to turn around and surrender, than turn around and attack the gun-drawn cop that had already shot you and made you bleed profusely.

the criminal justice system uses a lot more common sense when dealing with white victims and perpetrators.

All bullcrap..

First of all when someone is out of control enough to attack a cop to begin with all bets are off on whether he would return to attack the cop one more time after being shot..I know you think you have a good argument because you have repeated it so often but its crap.

Did you even see the other video posted on this thread of the black guy charging cops where they had to shoot him..IF there wasn't video of it you would be on here telling everyone that common sense shows that the guy wasn't charging the cops..Now that's a fact.

One more case of a black thug causing his own death and people blaming the wrong person..

[Dresta]

for this you would risk being prosecuted in germany. could be interpreted as incitement of the people


and in addition you are a wade stan.:facepalm
No, it wouldn't, unless Germany suddenly became the former Soviet Union while i wasn't looking...



Half-intellectual. Quod erat demonstrandum
Difficile est satiram non scribere :roll: :roll: :roll:
You've again said absolutely nothing, as usual.

[mehyaM24]

So you think you are right, even after I asked you to show me one representation of your interpretation in the picture??? You see names and you think it's a license to let your faulty logic to run rampant and supersede what's in the picture.

i dont "think" - i know. following my initial description, people followed suit (this backed from twitter responses and the first 3 or so pages of this thread). these people, unlike yourself, have logic running their stimuli.


Maybe you can list my debates with Dmavs and you can show me which ones your drugs convinced you of this madness?

i could get dmavs in here to expose you for the fraud and liar you TRULY are - but what for? your flagrant idiocy is common knowledge.


I just told you how to interpret art. But you had no formal training so it went waaaay over your head.

your incoherent rambling isn't teaching or interpreting anything - the poster below you cant even decipher your strange rhetoric.

in short, you are an ignorant buffoon without a shred of self respect.


You are one of the biggest sheep on this board. You never have an original thought. Please, show one thread where you show originality or a well thought out theory? Just one. While you are at it show me one insecure thought you might even imagine I have. You are a sheep, something in art that symbolizes a lack independence and the herd mentality? You think a sheep can interpret the courage of a Lion? Or even think he can rank it?
:sleeping :sleeping :sleeping

rinse. repeat. some more. instead of begging for people to do your work, google my posting history on here and youtube. what you will find are numerous websites and other forums quoting my research.

however, this will be last post directed at you. i see that you are a complete waste of time and not even remotely compelling to debate.

have fun looking for me on the internet. maybe you will learn something?

:cheers:

[gts]

this thread.... :lol

[moaz]

You've again said absolutely nothing, as usual.

Why should I? its too obvious; anyone who says that a black American from Cleavland who tweets a political cartoon is a "buffoon reverts to his tribal sentiments" is clearly a blant, biased, small penxxxised racist (btw I don't know wher are u from, but all indices point to European keyboard warrior type of racism)
I was just making fun of your attempts to sound educated, but your second post showed some unmasked insights of you.


No, it wouldn't, unless Germany suddenly became the former Soviet Union while i wasn't looking

Sure you would, because again you Godwin law fan, I haven't brought the stuermer without a reason. You used Nazi terminology "tribal" (you'll find the word "Stamm" almost in every Nazi literature about blacks). In the contest of the discussion here, any German prosecutor could charge you under Section 130.1- "incitement of popular hatred" - of the Strafgesetzbuch (Germany's criminal code), or even Section 86a - "Use of Symbols of Unconstitutional Organizations".

[Kidbasketball20]

How many of you defending Brown have seen this? Seriously.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_ErCzbXOxU

[3ball]

How many of you defending Brown have seen this? Seriously.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_ErCzbXOxU
we've all seen it - and no one supporting Brown thinks him getting shot relates in any way to the store incident.

people will believe what they want to believe - look at the Trayvon case... phone records show there was a call with Rachel Jeantel that was cuttoff 2 minutes before Trayvon was shot - nonetheless, some people automatically assumed Rachel Jeantel was lying about being on the phone with Trayvon at the time of the zimmerman initial encounter... others believe she was telling the truth, and therefore Trayvon would never have attacked zimmerman while simultaneously being on the phone with Rachel.

depending on what side you're on, it's very easy to completely dismiss a witness testimony, just because we all have built-in inclinations to prefer one outcome over another.

look at the Michael Brown case - some people believe when he turned around and approached wilson, that he was attacking his gun-drawn pursuer from 40 feet away after already being shot and bleeding... and some assume that he was surrendering when he turned around and approached wilson.

:confusedshrug: ... we'll never know - the only thing i know and can predict with great certainty based on empirical evidence: the next time an unarmed teen gets sprayed with bullets by a white officer, the teen will not be white.
.

[Kidbasketball20]

we've all seen it - and no one supporting Brown thinks him getting shot relates in any way to the store incident.

people will believe what they want to believe - look at the Trayvon case... phone records show there was a call with Rachel Jeantel that was cuttoff 2 minutes before Trayvon was shot - nonetheless, some people automatically believed Rachel Jeantel was lying when she said she was on the phone with Trayvon at the time of the zimmerman initial encounter... others believe she was telling the truth, and therefore Trayvon would never have attacked zimmerman while simultaneously being on the phone with Rachel.

depending on what side you're on, it's very easy to completely dismiss a witness testimony, just because we all have built-in inclinations to prefer one outcome over another.

look at the Michael Brown case - some people believe when he turned around and approached wilson, that he was attacking his gun-drawn pursuer from 40 feet away after already being shot and bleeding... and some assume that he was surrendering when he turned around and approached wilson.

:confusedshrug: ... we'll never know - the only thing i know and can predict with great certainty based on empirical evidence: the next time an unarmed teen gets shot by a white officer, the teen will not be white.



This wasn't some innocent angel who just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. This was a 6'4" 240-lbs who just assaulted a store owner that he stole from.

If ____ strong arm robs a guy earlier in the day and exhibits that same aggression toward a police officer, then it obviously sets the tone for the encounter. Look at that video, it's only minutes later the "incident" happens.

[Kidbasketball20]

When I go to the store and want something, I pay for it. I don’t take it and shove an employee or business owner in the chest or throat area. Bottom line.

[3ball]

This wasn't some innocent angel who just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. This was a 6'4" 240-lbs who just assaulted a store owner that he stole from.

He just attacked the store owner UNPROVOKED. You think he did NOTHING to cause the cop to shoot at him? :wtf:
he did nothing... nothing that required shooting him... what could he have done?

based on Dorian's testimony (Brown's friend), wilson was the one that instigated the incident at the car... this obviously conflicts with wilson's story, but i'm no more inclined to believe the accused here than a dozen witnesses.

then there is the separate incident where Brown flees the police car, and is pursued - this is where common sense tells you what happened - no one would ever think they could bumrush a gun-drawn, pursuing cop from 40 feet out, when the cop has already shown that he will shoot, has shot you, and has already made you bleed profusely.

to believe wilson's account, it requires us to abandon common sense many times throughout his account.

[Kidbasketball20]

he did nothing... nothing that required shooting him... what could he have done?

based on Dorian's testimony (Brown's friend), wilson was the one that instigated the incident at the car... this obviously conflicts with wilson's story, but i'm no more inclined to believe the accused here than a dozen witnesses.

then there is the separate incident where Brown flees the police car, and is pursued - this is where common sense tells you what happened - no one would ever think they could bumrush a gun-drawn, pursuing cop from 40 feet out, when the cop has already shown that he will shoot, has shot you, and has already made you bleed profusely.

to believe wilson's account, it requires us to abandon common sense many times throughout his account.


Dorian Johnson the same guy who claimed Brown was shot in the back multiple times until evidence revealed he WASN'T and then he changed his story? :biggums: :biggums: :biggums:

[Kidbasketball20]

I admire your conviction and passion in support of Brown 3ball, but you don't have all the facts from whatever sources you're reading.

Racial profiling is a serious issue, but to make Brown the poster child for it is gonna look really bad since... the facts/evidence show a very obvious story.

[3ball]

Dorian Johnson the same guy who claimed Brown was shot in the back multiple times until evidence revealed he WASN'T and then he changed his story? :biggums: :biggums: :biggums:
you are thinking of other witnesses.

i read every page of dorian's account - it was the longest and most important - and he did VERY well in the face of them trying to trip him up... he actually said that when the cop fired while Brown was running away, that the bullet could have hit him, or could have grazed him, but all he knew was that Brown's body jerked at the sound of the shot and he immediately halted his running.

think about it deeply for a sec - if you had been shot, began to flee, and then heard another shot, you would immediately stop and freeze up, which is why all the witnesses said Brown's body "jerked".

that doesn't mean the bullet hit him at all, but some of the witnesses assumed it did, which got them tripped up when the investigators informed them that the shots missed... not dorian though; he didn't trip up - he did very well and they couldn't poke holes in his testimony.

btw, witnesses said wilson shot while Brown was running away - why the **** would he shoot a guy that is running away?
.

[longtime lurker]

I admire your conviction and passion in support of Brown 3ball, but you don't have all the facts from whatever sources you're reading.

Racial profiling is a serious issue, but to make Brown the poster child for it is gonna look really bad since... the facts/evidence show a very obvious story.

You sure about that? I'm just going to leave this here. You decide:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sblJdLcgXfU

[Dresta]

Why should I? its too obvious; anyone who says that a black American from Cleavland who tweets a political cartoon is a "buffoon reverts to his tribal sentiments" is clearly a blant, biased, small penxxxised racist (btw I don't know wher are u from, but all indices point to European keyboard warrior type of racism)
I was just making fun of your attempts to sound educated, but your second post showed some unmasked insights of you.



Sure you would, because again you Godwin law fan, I haven't brought the stuermer without a reason. You used Nazi terminology "tribal" (you'll find the word "Stamm" almost in every Nazi literature about blacks). In the contest of the discussion here, any German prosecutor could charge you under Section 130.1- "incitement of popular hatred" - of the Strafgesetzbuch (Germany's criminal code), or even Section 86a - "Use of Symbols of Unconstitutional Organizations".
:facepalm

You are such a moralising douchebag that you need to see racial insults where none exist so you can incessantly moralise over the internet. Seriously, all human beings are tribal to some extent, and they all have tribal instincts. The yearnings of Marxism and socialism are based on tribal instincts, and the reason they manage to prosper despite their clear inadequacies is because they cater so well to these tribal human instincts. I've also called Lebron a buffoon plenty of times, and it has nothing to do with the colour of his skin, you prat.

The reason you don't know all this is because you're completely uneducated. But yeah, keep comparing calling automatically associating with people based on their skin colour alone tribal to being a nazi, it's the mark of a real unprejudiced individual!

[32jazz]

https://twitter.com/KingJames/status/537079866802589696

http://i.imgur.com/TYz9j02.jpg

I especially liked the 'hoodie' tweet by LeBron a couple years ago.


Not commenting on Lebrons opinion I do admire his willingness to speak & give strong honest answers about controversial topics like Trayvon, Mike Brown, Donald Sterling,etc......unlike Madison avenue robots like Michael Jordan(Guy had nothing to say about Sterling besides 'no comment' & released a critical statement days later. Has never given an opinion on anything of note).



He is in the breaking the Madison avenue robot controlled mold of MJ & is thoughtful & vocal like Black athletes of the past like Bill Russell, Jim Brown, Ali, Jabaar, Ashe, etc.....

Its actually refreshing.

[3ball]

You sure about that? I'm just going to leave this here. You decide:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sblJdLcgXfU
their testimony was insightful.

what bothers me isn't so much wilson's guilt or innocence (although i personally think he's guilty), but it's that if the victim was white and there were 12 witnesses, there would be an automatic indictment and trial...

there wouldn't be all these shenanigans where we do a completely different and unique process than what is normal, for the purpose of avoiding the indictment - the freiking PROSECUTOR got up there and gave a 20 minute DEFENSE for wilson while announcing the indictment decision... despicable.

[tobethdope]

i really don't have a stance on that ferguson issue, so don't get this the wrong way..but doesn't anyone else find it curious that there are so many obvious racists on an nba forum? :wtf:

[32jazz]

i really don't have a stance on that ferguson issue, so don't get this the wrong way..but doesn't anyone else find it curious that there are so many obvious racists on an nba forum? :wtf:


In Rome I believe most(not all) Gladiators were slaves, convicts,etc ......& the citizens absolutely loved the games. Doesn't mean they personally respect the humanity of the slaves(gladiators) or liked them ,but they love the Spectacle.

The same applies to modern day NFL/NBA where about 75% of the athletes are Black & many just love the spectacle(especially NFL).


The huge salaries that these fans help to pay directly or indirectly don't help with the resentment either.

[Bandito]

I especially liked the 'hoodie' tweet by LeBron a couple years ago.


Not commenting on Lebrons opinion I do admire his willingness to speak & give strong honest answers about controversial topics like Trayvon, Mike Brown, Donald Sterling,etc......unlike Madison avenue robots like Michael Jordan(Guy had nothing to say about Sterling besides 'no comment' & released a critical statement days later. Has never given an opinion on anything of note).



He is in the breaking the Madison avenue robot controlled mold of MJ & is thoughtful & vocal like Black athletes of the past like Bill Russell, Jim Brown, Ali, Jabaar, Ashe, etc.....

Its actually refreshing.
You lebrontards defend anything he does :facepalm:

[Lebron23]

i really don't have a stance on that ferguson issue, so don't get this the wrong way..but doesn't anyone else find it curious that there are so many obvious racists on an nba forum? :wtf:

Dresta is such a tool bag.

[GimmeThat]

I would agree that he himself is being a hypocrite on the matter of "size doesn't matter"


edit - I might be blind

[Dresta]

Dresta is such a tool bag.
Now, now, Bron stans, lets not go 100% hysterical and start proclaiming anyone who dislikes your God and his idiotic posturing as racist - i guess it was only a matter of time as you guys have no shame, constantly debasing yourselves at the feet of a person you don't even know. You bunch of pathetic masochists :facepalm


their testimony was insightful.

what bothers me isn't so much wilson's guilt or innocence (although i personally think he's guilty), but it's that if the victim was white and there were 12 witnesses, there would be an automatic indictment and trial...

there wouldn't be all these shenanigans where we do a completely different and unique process than what is normal, for the purpose of avoiding the indictment - the freiking PROSECUTOR got up there and gave a 20 minute DEFENSE for wilson while announcing the indictment decision... despicable.
You are wrong. Police shooting and killing of individuals who have done nothing wrong (unlike Brown) happens all over the world, and they almost always try to avoid prosecution. Nor are the victims in any way limited to a single skin tone.

Even in the UK (a much smaller and less populous country where only a specialised unit of the police carry firearms), you have incidents such as this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Harry_Stanley

and this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Jean_Charles_de_Menezes

Where unarmed men were shot and killed for no reason, having committed no crime and being mistaken for a threat. This kind of shit always happens when the police are involved, irrespective of the race of the victim. They will tend to protect their own like most people, and that much is obvious.


In Rome I believe most(not all) Gladiators were slaves, convicts,etc ......& the citizens absolutely loved the games. Doesn't mean they personally respect the humanity of the slaves(gladiators) or liked them ,but they love the Spectacle.

The same applies to modern day NFL/NBA where about 75% of the athletes are Black & many just love the spectacle(especially NFL).


The huge salaries that these fans help to pay directly or indirectly don't help with the resentment either.
:lol

Did this idiot just compare the NBA to Gladiator combat?

[Foster5k]

but doesn't anyone else find it curious that there are so many obvious racists on an nba forum? :wtf:
Some are just trolling, etc. Others are just ignorant and don't have the mental capacity to think logically. Most of them are nut jubs with extremist ideologies.

In a case such as this, the real terrorist of the world come out of the wood work. These people terrorize certain groups based on skin color/class/gender/etc. They make the looters in Ferguson look civilized. We're currently fighting a war on terror. Ironically, some of the terrorist are living right in our own back yard. They're just waiting for an opportunity when good men and women remain silent.

There is always another Hitler waiting for people to forget the horrors of WWII. Luckily, in America we have people that will stand up no matter the cost, unlike in Nazi Germany.

[R.I.P.]

There is always another Hitler waiting for people to forget the horrors of WWII. Luckily, in America we have people that will stand up no matter the cost, unlike in Nazi Germany.

http://lolsnaps.com/upload_pic/MyNativeAmericanfriendsarepostingthistoday-66213.jpg

[Dresta]

Some are just trolling, etc. Others are just ignorant and don't have the mental capacity to think logically. Most of them are nut jubs with extremist ideologies.

In a case such as this, the real terrorist of the world come out of the wood work. These people terrorize certain groups based on skin color/class/gender/etc. They make the looters in Ferguson look civilized. We're currently fighting a war on terror. Ironically, some of the terrorist are living right in our own back yard. They're just waiting for an opportunity when good men and women remain silent.

There is always another Hitler waiting for people to forget the horrors of WWII. Luckily, in America we have people that will stand up no matter the cost, unlike in Nazi Germany.
Ah yes, people posting opinions on an internet message board are far worse and more uncivilised than those looting, rioting, and burning.

There will never be another Hitler, and i wish people would stop childishly bringing him up as if complaining about Hitler automatically puts you in the moral right. Hitler was one of a kind, like all the monumental figures of history, and it is not possible for there to be another one of him. National Socialism and anything associated with it is completely dead and has been thoroughly repudiated by the vast majority of mankind. It poses zero threat, literally zero. The next kind of tyranny will be the obvious mob overreaction to the previous tyranny of nazism and racial intolerance - a tyranny of correct thinking akin to the Victorian era, with all the attendant puritanism (health and anti-pleasure fanatics) that comes along with. The regulation of the private life, the centralisation of administrative power, the monopolistic control of education, gross intolerance towards those who think differently, and ever growing concessions in the name of safety and security are the things you ought to be worried about, but instead you are focused on a non-existent reincarnation of nazism.

You should be concerned about how rigid society is becoming in enforcing its codes of morality, of greatly limiting thought, because it is from the breakers of conventional morality and wisdom that all human progress is made. Hence why all human progress is the result of strong individuals pitting their will against the correct-thinking of the herd, the masses of people who have always been wrong, and always a couple of centuries behind the most advanced thinkers of their time.

Men like Jenner, Haeckel, Thomas Huxley, Darwin, Lincoln, Bismarck, William Harvey, Pasteur, were great men because they progressed the cause of mankind against the wants and desires of the masses of mankind. Jenner, for example, pitted his single opinion against the near-consensus of the human race - the masses themselves did not want to be vaccinated because they were too ignorant and stupid to understand the theory of inoculation and to appreciate impalpable benefits (and they still are, to the great detriment of political principles whose value can't be directly observed).

You really have to be straight up blind to be worrying about nazism in the present climate.

edit: and i highly doubt you would stand up to nazi Germany if you were actually there and got to see the consequences of disobedience first-hand. American people are not special either, and the actions of the masses and of mob-opinion towards Germans during WW1 show the American mob is just as happy to engage in the same kind of behaviour as the nazis. You think it is 'good' men or women who allow things to happen by being silent? No, it is the 'good' the 'moral' and 'pious' who have engaged in this kind of behaviour since time immemorial. Go read some history instead of peddling these idiotic platitudes.

[Heilige]

Ah yes, people posting opinions on an internet message board are far worse and more uncivilised than those looting, rioting, and burning.

There will never be another Hitler, and i wish people would stop childishly bringing him up as if complaining about Hitler automatically puts you in the moral right. Hitler was one of a kind, like all the monumental figures of history, and it is not possible for there to be another one of him. National Socialism and anything associated with it is completely dead and has been thoroughly repudiated by the vast majority of mankind. It poses zero threat, literally zero. The next kind of tyranny will be the obvious mob overreaction to the previous tyranny of nazism and racial intolerance - a tyranny of correct thinking akin to the Victorian era, with all the attendant puritanism (health and anti-pleasure fanatics) that comes along with. The regulation of the private life, the centralisation of administrative power, the monopolistic control of education, gross intolerance towards those who think differently, and ever growing concessions in the name of safety and security are the things you ought to be worried about, but instead you are focused on a non-existent reincarnation of nazism.

You should be concerned about how rigid society is becoming in enforcing its codes of morality, of greatly limiting thought, because it is from the breakers of conventional morality and wisdom that all human progress is made. Hence why all human progress is the result of strong individuals pitting their will against the correct-thinking of the herd, the masses of people who have always been wrong, and always a couple of centuries behind the most advanced thinkers of their time.

Men like Jenner, Haeckel, Thomas Huxley, Darwin, Lincoln, Bismarck, William Harvey, Pasteur, were great men because they progressed the cause of mankind against the wants and desires of the masses of mankind. Jenner, for example, pitted his single opinion against the near-consensus of the human race - the masses themselves did not want to be vaccinated because they were too ignorant and stupid to understand the theory of inoculation and to appreciate impalpable benefits (and they still are, to the great detriment of political principles whose value can't be directly observed).

You really have to be straight up blind to be worrying about nazism in the present climate.

edit: and i highly doubt you would stand up to nazi Germany if you were actually there and got to see the consequences of disobedience first-hand. American people are not special either, and the actions of the masses and of mob-opinion towards Germans during WW1 show the American mob is just as happy to engage in the same kind of behaviour as the nazis. You think it is 'good' men or women who allow things to happen by being silent? No, it is the 'good' the 'moral' and 'pious' who have engaged in this kind of behaviour since time immemorial. Go read some history instead of peddling these idiotic platitudes.


Good post. Who do you think were the ten greatest men of all time?

[sick_brah07]

Ah yes, people posting opinions on an internet message board are far worse and more uncivilised than those looting, rioting, and burning.

There will never be another Hitler, and i wish people would stop childishly bringing him up as if complaining about Hitler automatically puts you in the moral right. Hitler was one of a kind, like all the monumental figures of history, and it is not possible for there to be another one of him. National Socialism and anything associated with it is completely dead and has been thoroughly repudiated by the vast majority of mankind. It poses zero threat, literally zero. The next kind of tyranny will be the obvious mob overreaction to the previous tyranny of nazism and racial intolerance - a tyranny of correct thinking akin to the Victorian era, with all the attendant puritanism (health and anti-pleasure fanatics) that comes along with. The regulation of the private life, the centralisation of administrative power, the monopolistic control of education, gross intolerance towards those who think differently, and ever growing concessions in the name of safety and security are the things you ought to be worried about, but instead you are focused on a non-existent reincarnation of nazism.

You should be concerned about how rigid society is becoming in enforcing its codes of morality, of greatly limiting thought, because it is from the breakers of conventional morality and wisdom that all human progress is made. Hence why all human progress is the result of strong individuals pitting their will against the correct-thinking of the herd, the masses of people who have always been wrong, and always a couple of centuries behind the most advanced thinkers of their time.

Men like Jenner, Haeckel, Thomas Huxley, Darwin, Lincoln, Bismarck, William Harvey, Pasteur, were great men because they progressed the cause of mankind against the wants and desires of the masses of mankind. Jenner, for example, pitted his single opinion against the near-consensus of the human race - the masses themselves did not want to be vaccinated because they were too ignorant and stupid to understand the theory of inoculation and to appreciate impalpable benefits (and they still are, to the great detriment of political principles whose value can't be directly observed).

You really have to be straight up blind to be worrying about nazism in the present climate.

edit: and i highly doubt you would stand up to nazi Germany if you were actually there and got to see the consequences of disobedience first-hand. American people are not special either, and the actions of the masses and of mob-opinion towards Germans during WW1 show the American mob is just as happy to engage in the same kind of behaviour as the nazis. You think it is 'good' men or women who allow things to happen by being silent? No, it is the 'good' the 'moral' and 'pious' who have engaged in this kind of behaviour since time immemorial. Go read some history instead of peddling these idiotic platitudes.

someone with a brain

well done good sir.

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[Foster5k]

Ah yes, people posting opinions on an internet message board are far worse and more uncivilised than those looting, rioting, and burning.

Throughout history racist ideologies have killed millions of people. Racism only breeds more hate and more violence. It has been used throughout time to alienate certain groups to gain some type of advantage. It was founded on a lie about superiority through Biblical writings and later through genetics. Racism was a clever device to deceive the ignorant and to falsely validate certain ideologies to gain the upper hand in societies.

We all know the end game for racism. Hitler taught the world why racism cannot be allowed to exist and cultivate. It was a painful and horrific lesson that no sane person would ever wish upon the world. Millions of people slaughtered and thrown in mass graves. Others thrown in concentration camps only to be tortured and die from malnutrition and starvation. Women and children raped and beaten to death. Babies used as target practice. A nation believing a lie and ultimately being lead down a path of hell and destruction. A world burning in the fires of war and death. This is the end game for racist ideology.

So, yes, I'm more worried about those ideologies than I am some looters in Ferguson. The end game for looting is the loss of liquor, car rims, and electronic devices. The end game for racist ideology is Nazi Germany and millions dead.


There will never be another Hitler, and i wish people would stop childishly bringing him up as if complaining about Hitler automatically puts you in the moral right.

That is a pretty bold claim. You sound like the guy that proclaimed personal computers would never become a hit. The funny thing about history is that it tends to repeat itself. After World War I, people thought there could never be another world war. It was thought impossible such a thing could ever happen again. However, on September 1, 1939, the world was thrown into another blood bath and World War II had begun. Something thought impossible and unimaginable had come to pass.


Hitler was one of a kind, like all the monumental figures of history, and it is not possible for there to be another one of him. National Socialism and anything associated with it is completely dead and has been thoroughly repudiated by the vast majority of mankind. It poses zero threat, literally zero.

As stated above, there is always another like minded Hitler waiting in the shadows. National socialism may be a thing of the past, however some of the core ideas of Nazi Germany like antisemitism/racism/etc still lingers on as seen around the world and even in this very thread.


The next kind of tyranny will be the obvious mob overreaction to the previous tyranny of nazism and racial intolerance - a tyranny of correct thinking akin to the Victorian era, with all the attendant puritanism (health and anti-pleasure fanatics) that comes along with. The regulation of the private life, the centralisation of administrative power, the monopolistic control of education, gross intolerance towards those who think differently, and ever growing concessions in the name of safety and security are the things you ought to be worried about, but instead you are focused on a non-existent reincarnation of nazism.

I'm not focusing on the true reincarnation of Nazism. I'm focusing on its antisemitism/racist ideology. If allowed to cultivate, it could have dire consequences just as in Nazi Germany. It's more of a threat than you tend to believe or possibly just to make your argument seem valid.


You should be concerned about how rigid society is becoming in enforcing its codes of morality, of greatly limiting thought, because it is from the breakers of conventional morality and wisdom that all human progress is made. Hence why all human progress is the result of strong individuals pitting their will against the correct-thinking of the herd, the masses of people who have always been wrong, and always a couple of centuries behind the most advanced thinkers of their time.

Who's to say I'm not concerned with the way society is taking shape. However, antisemitism/racism is still a huge problem throughout the world. Look at the Middle East and even in our own back yard here in the USA. These ideologies still linger and still cost lives on a daily basis.


Men like Jenner, Haeckel, Thomas Huxley, Darwin, Lincoln, Bismarck, William Harvey, Pasteur, were great men because they progressed the cause of mankind against the wants and desires of the masses of mankind. Jenner, for example, pitted his single opinion against the near-consensus of the human race - the masses themselves did not want to be vaccinated because they were too ignorant and stupid to understand the theory of inoculation and to appreciate impalpable benefits (and they still are, to the great detriment of political principles whose value can't be directly observed).

You act as if I don't appreciate great minds in society. People who go against the status quo and fight for change, etc. I never said such things. What I did say is that racist ideology has lead to death and destruction and cannot be allowed to foster.


You really have to be straight up blind to be worrying about nazism in the present climate.

Not Nazism in a whole but it's core values on antisemitism/racism that still lingers as seen in the current Middle East and even here in the USA.


edit: and i highly doubt you would stand up to nazi Germany if you were actually there and got to see the consequences of disobedience first-hand.

When the Jews were beaten publicly in the streets, Germans did nothing. They felt as though it wasn't their problem. They chanted, "Hail Hitler!" and believed the lies that spewed out of his mouth for their own personal gain. They watched as millions were dragged to their deaths, tortured, and imprisoned in concentration camps only to die a horrible death.

I'm sorry but here in America that is not going to happen. People here will fight and stand up against acts of evil no matter the cost. Say what you will about the protesters in Ferguson, but they are out there possibly risking their lives, jail time, etc for what they believe to be unjust. I can respect that, even though I don't entirely agree with the means to their end.

Dresta, you obviously underestimate the American people. You almost sound like the British before the Revolutionary War, believing that the colonies would not fight back if provoked. Never underestimate the American people to fight for what they believe to be unjust.

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