View Full Version : Rose for Rondo. Does either team bite?
Dr Seuss
11-26-2014, 04:35 PM
Keeping contract length/money in mind, is this a move that you think either team considers?
Real Men Wear Green
11-26-2014, 04:56 PM
I'd be surprised if any team wanted to be committed to paying Rose 90 mil right now. Meanwhile Chi gets the NBA's assist leader in the final year of his contract. Meaning worst-case they have gotten out of paying max money to a guy that is looking like he's going to miss half the season every year. With max space an a higher cap next season Chi brings in one, maybe even two of the top free agents or keeps Rondo if he's working well on their team and adds on another good player. For Chi it would be a blessing. It's the Cs that have no need for a part time max player.
Rolando
11-26-2014, 06:20 PM
Keep in mind also that last time Rondo played with Thibodeau they won a championship. The NBA would block this for "basketball reasons".
Rose is fool's gold and Rondo is the real deal.
outbreak
11-26-2014, 06:28 PM
Keep in mind also that last time Rondo played with Thibodeau they won a championship. The NBA would block this for "basketball reasons".
Rose is fool's gold and Rondo is the real deal.
Why do people keep bringing this up in situations that are totally different and irrelevant to that event?
To answer the OP no way Boston do this with Rose's contract and status right now.
Rolando
11-26-2014, 06:45 PM
Why do people keep bringing this up in situations that are totally different and irrelevant to that event?
To answer the OP no way Boston do this with Rose's contract and status right now.
In this case it would be because I (Celtics Homer) think Rondo is an incredibly good player and would give the Bulls an almost unfair advantage over the rest of the teams. Therefore, the NBA executives would have to block the trade in order to prevent the situation.
outbreak
11-26-2014, 06:48 PM
In this case it would be because I (Celtics Homer) think Rondo is an incredibly good player and would give the Bulls an almost unfair advantage over the rest of the teams. Therefore, the NBA executives would have to block the trade in order to prevent the situation.
Again that does not fit the situation AT ALL. The reason the original deal was vetoed was because one team was owned by the NBA and as such they had the power to negate the trade if they felt it would devalue the franchise in the immediate future and bring in less money when it sold. Totally different scenario. People on ISH try to act like the NBA just randomly decided to stop an every day trade.
I agree though that Rondo on the bulls would be really fun to watch with how they have been playing lately.
CJ Mustard
11-26-2014, 07:20 PM
Why would Boston give up a guy who is notorious for playing with/through injuries, for a guy who calls in sick with a headache. Give me the guy who can stay on the floor for more than 2-3 games at a time before being in a suit on the bench again.
Lebronxrings
11-26-2014, 07:32 PM
In this case it would be because I (Celtics Homer) think Rondo is an incredibly good player and would give the Bulls an almost unfair advantage over the rest of the teams. Therefore, the NBA executives would have to block the trade in order to prevent the situation.
:applause: rose is overrated
Heatles201
11-26-2014, 07:36 PM
Again that does not fit the situation AT ALL. The reason the original deal was vetoed was because one team was owned by the NBA and as such they had the power to negate the trade if they felt it would devalue the franchise in the immediate future and bring in less money when it sold. Totally different scenario. People on ISH try to act like the NBA just randomly decided to stop an every day trade.
I agree though that Rondo on the bulls would be really fun to watch with how they have been playing lately.
^ this. it was ok at first but now it's just plain annoying the only reason that trade was veto-ed was cause the league owned that team, the commish did what the OWNERS told him to do
Levity
11-26-2014, 07:36 PM
i dont see the celtics doing this unless their management pictures a healthy Drose in the horizon. and if that was the case, maybe the bulls dont easily part ways with him
anyhow, rondo on the bulls.... would be amazing. if it were to happen this year, theyd easily be my favorites, due to the emergence of the best 2 way player in the league, jimmy buckets
so, maybe itd behoove the bulls to get rid of rose's contract this year. so 1) they can go after rondo in the off season 2) and more importantly, they can prepare themselves to match the ridiculous contract offers jimmy b will get.
poido123
11-26-2014, 07:45 PM
I love rondo's game.
Gritty, competitive guy who will make big plays and stand up when it matters.
He would work great on the bulls and find our open shooters. Much better defender than Rose too.
Still, I'm sticking by rose and I have a gut feeling that all this commotion about rose being soft and not caring is totally overblown.
If this trade happened, I wouldn't be against it as rondo is one of my favorite point guards next to rose.
Ariza4three
11-26-2014, 07:46 PM
bulls would sure as hell do it. boston wouldn't.
Chicago is going to trade the guy who was born in Chicago, grew up in Chicago, and was drafted by Chicago for a stat-padding point guard that can't shoot? Like the Bulls don't have enough problems with outside shooting, then you throw Rondo in the backcourt with Jimmy Butler. Who's your #1 option? Pau Gasol. Rose is MVP at his best, top 10 at worst (if healthy). Rondo is a very good starter - CP3 without the scoring ability.
No thanks.
KyrieTheFuture
11-26-2014, 11:11 PM
Chicago is going to trade the guy who was born in Chicago, grew up in Chicago, and was drafted by Chicago for a stat-padding point guard that can't shoot? Like the Bulls don't have enough problems with outside shooting, then you throw Rondo in the backcourt with Jimmy Butler. Who's your #1 option? Pau Gasol. Rose is MVP at his best, top 10 at worst (if healthy). Rondo is a very good starter - CP3 without the scoring ability.
No thanks.
After the bolded, I don't think there is a single sentence in here that is accurate.
I have 0 clue if this is possible, but can you trade a player and split paying his salary?
CelticBaller
11-26-2014, 11:18 PM
Chicago is going to trade the guy who was born in Chicago, grew up in Chicago, and was drafted by Chicago for a stat-padding point guard that can't shoot? Like the Bulls don't have enough problems with outside shooting, then you throw Rondo in the backcourt with Jimmy Butler. Who's your #1 option? Pau Gasol. Rose is MVP at his best, top 10 at worst (if healthy). Rondo is a very good starter - CP3 without the scoring ability.
No thanks.
If he's a stat padding pg who can't shoot, why does he shoot a better FG% than rose in the playoffs? and why does rose shrink against lebron? oh and why hasn't "MVP" led his team to a final? to top it off why is it when rondo got injured, his team only managed to snag a 7 seed, while rose's team always are on top the conference without him?
outbreak
11-26-2014, 11:31 PM
If he's a stat padding pg who can't shoot, why does he shoot a better FG% than rose in the playoffs? and why does rose he shrink against lebron? oh and why does the "MVP" hasn't lead his team to a final? to top it off why is it when rondo got injured, his team only managed to snag a 7 seed, while rose's team always are on top the conference without him?
shhh you're bringing facts into his opinion post!
After the bolded, I don't think there is a single sentence in here that is accurate.
Rondo can't shoot. Can't make free throws. (34.6% this season).
Him and Jimmy Butler offer no outside scoring threat.
Rondo is CP3 without the scoring ability.
If he's a stat padding pg who can't shoot, why does he shoot a better FG% than rose in the playoffs?
Rondo playing as 4th option behind Pierce, KG, Allen. Takes easy transition shots.
why does rose shrink against lebron?
This isn't a LeBron thread.
why hasn't "MVP" led his team to a final?
Injuries. Miami was a better team. This has nothing to with him being better or worse than Rondo.
rose's team always are on top the conference without him
East is weak.
shhh you're bringing facts into his opinion post!
Nice multi.
All Net
11-27-2014, 08:07 AM
Bulls should. ..
CelticBaller
11-27-2014, 10:04 AM
Rondo can't shoot. Can't make free throws. (34.6% this season).
Him and Jimmy Butler offer no outside scoring threat.
Rondo is CP3 without the scoring ability.
Rondo playing as 4th option behind Pierce, KG, Allen. Takes easy transition shots.
This isn't a LeBron thread.
Injuries. Miami was a better team. This has nothing to with him being better or worse than Rondo.
East is weak.
Nice multi.
Rondo as a 4th option? that 08 offense ran through the hot hand idiot, they were no first option or 2nd options, and guess who ran it? Rondo. But if you really want to go there, who was in charge of the 2010 playoff run?
An you are dumb ass a brick, the MVP shrinks against LeBron and shoots terrible FG% while that stat padding PG puts legendary numbers against the best player in the league, of course that type of reference will take a freshman in high school to understand it, and you're dumber than that.
Injuries? and who's fault is that? and you still didn't answer me on how the "MVP"'s team manages to always get a top seed without him? Maybe cause he's not so valuable after all? and lol at the Miami was a much better team, a team the old ass celtics led by Rondo took to 7 games? how come the MVP with a much better squad couldn't' do that?
Clocian-IGN
11-27-2014, 10:23 AM
Bulls shouldn't and wont.
oh and why hasn't "MVP" led his team to a final?
yep, rondo alone led them to the finals :rolleyes:
CelticBaller
11-27-2014, 10:28 AM
yep, rondo alone led them to the finals :rolleyes:
The Bulls have had a better team for years now and not once has this MVP led them to the finals
If he's so much better than rondo, why can't he pull a 2010 Rondo? the team is a 4th seed without him, so with their mvp they should be in the finals? right?
Wait, you're a knicks fan? my bad, let me help you put your helmet back on
The Bulls have had a better team for years now and not once has this MVP led them to the finals
If he's so much better than rondo, why can't he pull a 2010 Rondo? the team is a 4th seed without him, so with their mvp they should be in the finals? right?
Are you really trying to argue that Rondo is the better individual player? What exactly did Rondo pull in 2010? Beeing the 4th best player behind Pierce, KG and Allen? well congratulations to that ...
Wait, you're a knicks fan? my bad, let me help you put your helmet back on
great discussion ****head
nathanjizzle
11-27-2014, 10:42 AM
The Bulls have had a better team for years now and not once has this MVP led them to the finals
If he's so much better than rondo, why can't he pull a 2010 Rondo? the team is a 4th seed without him, so with their mvp they should be in the finals? right?
Wait, you're a knicks fan? my bad, let me help you put your helmet back on
youre not objective at all, youre talking as if rose has been healthy these past 3 years. "why hasnt he taken them to the finals if hes an mvp" :facepalm seriously?
rose was on par with rondo in 2008 playoffs, did you watch that series? rookie rose was just as good as rondo if not better.
its just a matter if rose is healthy or not, if hes healthy, its really not a hard decision.
CelticBaller
11-27-2014, 10:43 AM
Are you really trying to argue that Rondo is the better individual player? What exactly did Rondo pull in 2010? Beeing the 4th best player behind Pierce, KG and Allen? well congratulations to that ...
great discussion ****head
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-psSaCpk6VKY/UGM3edtIV8I/AAAAAAAADPE/BkC8uaKjoAg/s1600/michael-jordan-laughing.gif
ha, really shows you're knicks fan, I'm going to hell for this :roll:
kshutts1
11-27-2014, 10:45 AM
You could have gotten me to sell on Rose last Spring/Summer. But not now.
Last May, I was on board for trading Rose for a "what if" trade... Lowry (who had not played well in consecutive years.. ever) and Ross for Rose. Toronto gambles on Rose returning to form, Chicago gambles on his not, while Lowry continuing to be good.
But now that we've seen that Rose is still talented, and just suffering through a very understandable rash of connected injuries, I wouldn't trade him for anyone less than a high-scoring PG. Bulls need scoring. Not Rondo's passing and D.
Not counting salary...
Ellis, Teague, Lowry are the worst players I'd trade Rose for, but I would ask for a pick back, though not necessarily a high pick.
Reggie Jackson would be fine, but I'd need a high pick back (plus, OKC would likely not do this).
I don't expect Rose to reach MVP status again, but I do expect him to be a 23/8 player again, and the Bulls scoring leader, fearless on the court. And it will be this year.
CelticBaller
11-27-2014, 10:49 AM
youre not objective at all, youre talking as if rose has been healthy these past 3 years. "why hasnt he taken them to the finals if hes an mvp" :facepalm seriously?
rose was on par with rondo in 2008 playoffs, did you watch that series? rookie rose was just as good as rondo if not better.
its just a matter if rose is healthy or not, if hes healthy, its really not a hard decision.
Again, how is he better than Rondo if he can't stay healthy? injuries are part of the game, have i ever brought up Rondo's torn acl as an excuse to why i would choose rose over him yet? no
and you do mean the 09 playoffs right? how the Bulls almost beat the then current champions(though KG wasn't there) I'd give you that, though the team was led by Hinrich, and this was probably the first time Rondo decided to become a primary scorer after KG went down.
KyrieTheFuture
11-27-2014, 01:07 PM
Chicago is going to trade the guy who was born in Chicago, grew up in Chicago, and was drafted by Chicago for a stat-padding point guard that can't shoot? Like the Bulls don't have enough problems with outside shooting, then you throw Rondo in the backcourt with Jimmy Butler. Who's your #1 option? Pau Gasol. Rose is MVP at his best, top 10 at worst (if healthy). Rondo is a very good starter - CP3 without the scoring ability.
No thanks.
Rondo can't shoot. Can't make free throws. (34.6% this season).
Him and Jimmy Butler offer no outside scoring threat.
Rondo is CP3 without the scoring ability.
Okay, Butler is at worst decent from 3, Mike Dunleavy, McDermott, and Mirotic are all excellent from deep. Don't sit here and pretend Rose is some deep threat either he can't shoot for shit. You just said Pau Gasol is a number one option when Butler and Noah are roughly twice as good as he is. Rose's MVP was a fluke so that's false also, and Rondo is a better play maker, and at least used to be a better defender than CP3.
ballup
11-27-2014, 01:25 PM
Rondo can't shoot. Can't make free throws. (34.6% this season).
Him and Jimmy Butler offer no outside scoring threat.
Rondo is CP3 without the scoring ability.
Rondo playing as 4th option behind Pierce, KG, Allen. Takes easy transition shots.
This isn't a LeBron thread.
Injuries. Miami was a better team. This has nothing to with him being better or worse than Rondo.
East is weak.
Nice multi.
I see your gimmick. By making terrible posts, you hope in turn to give other posters AIDS. Wow, so crafty.
I bashed Rondo a lot but he got more value at this point until Rose actually wants to play. Before you can give Rose a legitimate injury excuse but now it seems like his heart, his will is in question more so than his injuries.
That's something you won't question Rondo about, he's ready to play even with a broken arm as we saw in the playoffs once.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-psSaCpk6VKY/UGM3edtIV8I/AAAAAAAADPE/BkC8uaKjoAg/s1600/michael-jordan-laughing.gif
ha, really shows you're knicks fan, I'm going to hell for this :roll:
here comes the gif :applause:
injuries are part of the game
:facepalm
The Bulls have had a better team for years now and not once has this MVP led them to the finals
alright .. so if we put Rondo instead of Rose on those 2010/11 Bulls they still reach the ECF? By your logic, better team + better player, they should easily beat Miami and go to the finals
i would like to see rondo as the focal point of a defense ...
CelticBaller
11-27-2014, 01:51 PM
here comes the gif :applause:
:facepalm
alright .. so if we put Rondo instead of Rose on those 2010/11 Bulls they still reach the ECF? By your logic, better team + better player, they should easily beat Miami and go to the finals
i would like to see rondo as the focal point of a defense ...
you mean like in 2012? when he scored 44 on the heat? yeah give him, at least i know he''l show up and bring something more than scoring
brb when rondo averages below 40% in the playoffs doe
ProfessorMurder
11-27-2014, 02:11 PM
I bashed Rondo a lot but he got more value at this point until Rose actually wants to play. Before you can give Rose a legitimate injury excuse but now it seems like his heart, his will is in question more so than his injuries.
That's something you won't question Rondo about, he's ready to play even with a broken arm as we saw in the playoffs once.
Triple double on a torn acl, broken elbow win in the playoffs against prime Miami, comes back after 4 weeks with a broken hand to start this season.
Arguably the toughest guy in the league.
Genaro
11-27-2014, 02:13 PM
Bulls need a scoring PG, I don't know why they would do this except to get rid of Rose's contract.
Celtics certainly don't do that except maybe if they hire Suns medical staff.
outbreak
11-27-2014, 05:09 PM
you mean like in 2012? when he scored 44 on the heat? yeah give him, at least i know he''l show up and bring something more than scoring
brb when rondo averages below 40% in the playoffs doe
Celtics got robbed by the refs in that series too.
"idiot", "An you are dumb ass a brick", "you're dumber than that"
This is why I rarely bother with this forum. It's boring.
CelticBaller
11-27-2014, 09:45 PM
This is why I rarely bother with this forum. It's boring.
then keep taking the Ls and leave
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