Better Point Guard: Steph Curry or Mark Price

[IGOTGAME]

Both great shooters at the point guard position.

[Ariza4three]

Steph and it's not close.

[KyrieTheFuture]

Seriously? Why?

[navy]

Steph it's not close.

[MellowYellow]

Price, but it's close

[Kvnzhangyay]

Steph...

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Funny how nikkas say Steph not close than say Nash is better than Steph..........Price and Nash were pretty much the same except Price was a bit better on defense and played in a much worse system

not that i disagree............Stephs clearly better than both

[masonanddixon]

Mark Price, for sure.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Curry. But both are underrated. Price is one of those guys who would be better today even than he was when he played.

[Kvnzhangyay]

Mark Price, for sure.

Did you even watch Price to say for sure :eek:

[MellowYellow]

Comparing peaks

Price 19 8 on 52/44/90 2.8 turnovers
Curry 24 8 on 47/42/89 3.8 turnovers

Close but ill take price on efficiency and less to's

[masonanddixon]

Did you even watch Price to say for sure :eek:

Yes I am 33 years old.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Comparing peaks

Price 19 8 on 52/44/90 2.8 turnovers
Curry 24 8 on 47/42/89 3.8 turnovers

Close but ill take price on efficiency and less to's
Curry is more efficient. Curry shoots like 8 3s a game. Price shot like 5.

[navy]

Comparing peaks

Price 19 8 on 52/44/90 2.8 turnovers
Curry 24 8 on 47/42/89 3.8 turnovers

Close but ill take price on efficiency and less to's
5 points is a huge difference.

[MellowYellow]

Curry is more efficient. Curry shoots like 8 3s a game. Price shot like 5.
so? %'s man that's all that matters with efficiency

[RoundMoundOfReb]

so? %'s man that's all that matters with efficiency
No. scoring most possible points on least possible attempts = efficiency. Curry was at 61% Ts Price at 59% Ts and Curry scored at a pretty significantly higher volume.

[MellowYellow]

No. scoring most possible points on least possible attempts = efficiency. Curry was at 61% Ts Price at 59% Ts and Curry scored at a pretty significantly higher volume.
The year I am talkin bout, Price had a 62% ts

[IGOTGAME]

Let's also remember that Price played with handchecking and better comp at the guard position.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Curry is a better player (not much of a debate there) and a slightly better pointguard IMO.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

The year I am talkin bout, Price had a 62% ts
Ooh was looking at the wrong year...my bad :cheers:

But yeah Price was better at taking care of the ball whcih factors into effeciency i suppose

[navy]

better comp at the guard position.
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[IGOTGAME]

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this could be he dumbest smiley in board history.

[navy]

this could be he dumbest smiley in board history.
Point guard position has never been stronger.

[bizil]

I would say Curry, but Price was the forerunner to the style Steph is dominating the league with. Curry just put it in a 6'3 frame and REALLY has explored the boundaries of great shooting more than any PG EVER!! Hell maybe any player ever PERIOD!! Steph simply took what Price did to an EPIC level. Steph is arguably one of the top five players in the NBA. Price was never on that level, even though he was a great point guard who had HOF kind of ability.

Nash is similar to both guys as well, but Nash is one of the five greatest passers of all time. Curry and Price are both great passers, but if both were 6'5, they would have been SG's. If Nash was 6'5, I think he would still be a PG.

[IGOTGAME]

Point guard position has never been stronger.

the rules have never been more favorable. Price was going against Magic, Isiah and Stockton. Each better than every point guard in the league today. This isn't mentioning guys like KJ, Gary Payton and Tim Hardaway.

[FatComputerNerd]

Price shoot as good if not better. He was tough defensively too...very scrappy.

He was also a great floor general. His assists were generally lower than Stocktons but really he was just as good.

[iamgine]

Funny how nikkas say Steph not close than say Nash is better than Steph..........Price and Nash were pretty much the same except Price was a bit better on defense and played in a much worse system

not that i disagree............Stephs clearly better than both
Uhh, no. Nash >> Price

[Kovach]

Price was amazing but Curry is just unreal. Dude is a monster.

[bdreason]

I doubt many here watched Price. I watch him play, but I was in my early teens and certainly didn't follow the game like I do now. It didn't help that he played for the Cavs. Despite the Cavs having a great team they weren't getting any national exposure until playoff time. I will say that Price and Daugherty is easily the most underrated, overlooked duo in the history of the NBA.

As for who is better, I would say that Curry is the better talent (more potential), while Price was the better PG. I think if Curry and Price matched up in a playoff series... Price would get the better of Steph (at this point). I still think Steph can get significantly better when it comes to his decision making and general understanding of the game though.

[Collie]

Love Mark Price, was one of my favorite non-MJ players back in the 90's, but Curry is playing at an unreal level right now. To be fair to Price, at his best, he was probably top 3 shooter/passer along with Steve Nash, and he's a better distributor, but I haven't seen this kind of level of PG play since 09 Chris Paul.

[FKAri]

The rules make it really hard to compare PGs across eras; especially Price and Curry who both would be radically different if they swapped eras.

[Bigsmoke]

Compare the best point guard today/MVP candidate/best shooter of all time to someone who didn't even make the Hall of Fame:roll: :roll:


Picking price just means you're stupid

[IGOTGAME]

Compare the best point guard today/MVP candidate/best shooter of all time to someone who didn't even make the Hall of Fame:roll: :roll:


Picking price just means you're stupid

this post is ignorant. the rule changes make all the difference and btw...Price has a 1st team all NBA over HOF dudes. Put Price in this NBA and he is doing work...guy was a much better floor general.

[Bigsmoke]

this post is ignorant. the rule changes :blah :blah :blah and btw...Price has a 1st team all NBA :blah :blah . Put Price in this NBA and he is doing work...guy was a much better :blah :blah .

More of this "(insert 90's player) would dominate in this era" BS. Points allows was a lot greater back then than they are now:lol just because 2 or 3 teams played elite defense, that doesn't mean they all did. For the record... Mark Price played in that era and didn't achieve shit.... Not even a Hall of Fame spot.:confusedshrug:

Curry will be in the HOF if he continues playing at this level and I think he still has room to grow and get even better.

[IGOTGAME]

More of this "(insert 90's player) would dominate in this era" BS. Points allows was a lot greater back then than they are now:lol just because 2 or 3 teams played elite defense, that doesn't mean they all did. For the record... Mark Price played in that era and didn't achieve shit.... Not even a Hall of Fame spot.:confusedshrug:

Curry will be in the HOF if he continues playing at this level and I think he still has room to grow and get even better.

and? the rules are drastically different now. Steve Nash isn't an MVP back when Nash played, he may not even be a perennial all star. The rules matter and it is a big deal. Its not about the elite defense, it is the handchecking and the protecting of the 3 point shooters now as well as the shot blocking at the rim in that era. Its just a lot different. Steph Curry wouldn't even be a top 10 player back when Mark Price played. Even now, he is overrated.

btw...I can guarantee you that Steph Curry never wins anything as the best player on a team. Id also bet that he never makes the finals either. He isnt that level of player and lets not make him out to be something he isnt

[Ariza4three]

and? the rules are drastically different now. Steve Nash isn't an MVP back when Nash played, he may not even be a perennial all star. The rules matter and it is a big deal. Its not about the elite defense, it is the handchecking and the protecting of the 3 point shooters now as well as the shot blocking at the rim in that era. Its just a lot different. Steph Curry wouldn't even be a top 10 player back when Mark Price played. Even now, he is overrated.

btw...I can guarantee you that Steph Curry never wins anything as the best player on a team. Id also bet that he never makes the finals either. He isnt that level of player and lets not make him out to be something he isnt
lol
nostalgia is so strong and it makes people so dumb

[Bigsmoke]

and? the rules are drastically different now. Steve Nash isn't an MVP back when Nash played, he may not even be a perennial all star. The rules matter and it is a big deal. Its not about the elite defense, it is the handchecking and the protecting of the 3 point shooters now as well as the shot blocking at the rim in that era. Its just a lot different. Steph Curry wouldn't even be a top 10 player back when Mark Price played. Even now, he is overrated.

btw...I can guarantee you that Steph Curry never wins anything as the best player on a team. Id also bet that he never makes the finals either. He isnt that level of player and lets not make him out to be something he isnt

And how do u know if Mark Price could stay in this league knowing that PG are more athletic and he couldn't hand check?:rolleyes:

If Mark won something in that so called "golden era" then fine.... But that's not the case.:lol

This shit is like comparing Pete Nice from 3rd base to Kendrick Lamar.

[SugarHill]

Players from the past are always better than players from today if they're even remotely comparable. Sometimes, they don't even need to be comparable, just pick the one from the past.

[MellowYellow]

Compare the best point guard today/MVP candidate/best shooter of all time to someone who didn't even make the Hall of Fame:roll: :roll:


Picking price just means you're stupid

He will get in eventually, his career was cut short though because of injuries. His prime was great though, on par with what curry did last couple of years.

[DMV2]

Curry will easily surpass Price after this season when he finishes in the Top 5 for MVP.

[chocolatethunder]

and? the rules are drastically different now. Steve Nash isn't an MVP back when Nash played, he may not even be a perennial all star. The rules matter and it is a big deal. Its not about the elite defense, it is the handchecking and the protecting of the 3 point shooters now as well as the shot blocking at the rim in that era. Its just a lot different. Steph Curry wouldn't even be a top 10 player back when Mark Price played. Even now, he is overrated.

btw...I can guarantee you that Steph Curry never wins anything as the best player on a team. Id also bet that he never makes the finals either. He isnt that level of player and lets not make him out to be something he isnt
You say a lot of good things and I'm 42 so I've seen all these dudes play from my teens on up (not when I was 10 ).

First, I think that Nash's shooting and passing pretty much makes him effective across mostly all eras (you said nash isn't an MVP when nash played but I assume you mean when price played). It's difficult to say how he would have dealt with hand checking but he was very quick and a super shooter so I'm not sure that he's be MVP but I think that he would have been an all star.

Secondly, Curry is becoming overrated. He's really a passing two to me with an awesome shot. He has the ball a lot and gets assists but he's nothing like Price or Nash. Nash and Price and Isaiah could all have scored more and passed less but that's not what was best for their teams. Isaiah may not have been the shooter that those two were but he was a hell of a scorer. Anyone who was old enough to have seen these guys play in the handchekcing era shudders to think what those guards would be able to do in this era.

This is why I don't bother with comparisons because it's just impossible. You have to look at the players in their context. The PG position as is has been known is dying. Its a shoot first position now so that makes it even more difficult to compare to past eras.

Curry and Price are both great players in their eras and that's about all there is to say. It's not Steph Curry's fault that he plays in an era where hand checking is illegal and it's not Prices fault that he played when you could hand check a guy to death and there were stud shot blockers on every team. There is no comparison here. But people calling Steph the greatest shooter of all time are just foolish. Nash did the 40/50/90 for years. And guys like Dale Ellis and Reggie were great shooters before the three point shot was shot 20x a game for each team. So saying a guy has x amount of makes now and trying to compare it to someone like ellis is just dumb because teams weren't taking anywhere near that much then. They are all very good players.

[Bigsmoke]

He will get in eventually, his career was cut short though because of injuries. His prime was great though, on par with what curry did last couple of years.

Curry >>

[SHAQisGOAT]

Both great overall shooters, both with great handles, both can finish inside, both great players/PG's.

I think Curry is the better scorer (although Price is close behind, and Steph looks more for it) and also a better shooter off the dribble; Price had better shot selection and was better at the ft line... Mark was also a better passer and better at taking care of the ball, Stephen can't run an offense like Price could.

I'd probably say Price was a better PG but Curry a better player, or something like that, but they're neck-to-neck now.
If Curry keeps this level, while getting wins and then getting it done in the Playoffs too... I'll go with him, and most likely he'll still improve (barring injuries).
Ofc, rules also make it "easier" for guards now, and Price got his career cut short due to dealing with more physicality too (same for "little" PG's like Isiah and so on)... Stuff like that can't be neglected, as well.

Now, people saying "Curry and not even close"??? :rolleyes: Gimme a break...

Mark was something like a slight more athletic Nash, with slight less passing skills and ability to run an offense, but also better, more gritty defender - Nash being better as an overall player... And Price also came up without a 3pt line (as a kid and before the pros), in a more physical time, in an era where rules (written/unwritten) made it harder for guards than nowadays.

[PsychoBe]

the inventor of the pick n roll split :applause:

you can watch any game of price and you will be able to see why he was such a special player. what he did for those cavs team was something special.

[SHAQisGOAT]

the inventor of the pick n roll split :applause:

you can watch any game of price and you will be able to see why he was such a special player. what he did for those cavs team was something special.

Always loved to watch him ball (same for Steph though, especially when he gets it going):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sua9u318wGo

Kinda of funny because Kerr - who speaks in that vid - at some point played with Price and now coaches Curry.

Still...


I'd probably say Price was a better PG but Curry a better player, or something like that, but they're neck-to-neck now.
If Curry keeps this level, while getting wins and then getting it done in the Playoffs too... I'll go with him, and most likely he'll still improve (barring injuries).
Ofc, rules also make it "easier" for guards now, and Price got his career cut short due to dealing with more physicality too (same for "little" PG's like Isiah and so on)... Stuff like that can't be neglected, as well.

Now, people saying "Curry and not even close"??? :rolleyes: Gimme a break...

... and so on (from my previous post)...

[PsychoBe]

Always loved to watch him ball (same for Steph though, especially when he gets it going):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sua9u318wGo

Kinda of funny because Kerr - who speaks in that vid - at some point played with Price and now coaches Curry.

Still...

... and so on (from my previous post)...

i agree completely. i've also seen poster say ridiculous crap like "curry is the only player to shoot so well off the dribble" when price had been doing it 20 years earlier :oldlol:

it was a thing of beauty too. he'd just dribble and pull-up or he'd use his incredible handles to create space to get to his spots and shoot it like it was nothing.

[sundizz]

Price is a better point guard, but Curry is definitely the superior player.

To win a title it is more important to have a go to scorer, than a go to passer. History has shown this over and over and over again.

You can (and they do) put the ball in Curry's hand to score in late game or important possessions. He doesn't need to rely on screens, on etc that most point guards do. This is what makes him absolutely unique. He is lethal from 25 feet on in and can get free against anybody.

His handles and ability to create separation for his shot are unparalleled in NBA history. It is not that he takes difficult shots...he just uses handles to create enough space better than anyone I've seen in 20 years of watching basketball. It is why Kobe sometimes is ridiculous...he doesn't create separation so the degree of difficulty on his shot is 10/10. Iverson created good separation usually but didn't have as skilled of a shot. Dwayne Wade actually has a killer step back move to create separation.

If there is someone that I'm missing please show me. I've watched lots of clips of Mark Price and even full games but he doesn't create separation to get off a shot the way Curry does. He drives really well, but that is completely different.

I can agree that Price and Nash are better floor general though. They dictate a style of offense better than Curry. Whether that is more or less effective is up for debate. I prefer a scoring guard that has ridiculously good vision over a better vision but significantly inferior scorer if I'm trying to win in the playoffs. Curry can play off ball much better and this allows the whole team to be involved (e.g., Kerr's current offense). Both Price and Nash would not be as good as playing off ball as Curry is.

[plowking]

and? the rules are drastically different now. Steve Nash isn't an MVP back when Nash played, he may not even be a perennial all star. The rules matter and it is a big deal. Its not about the elite defense, it is the handchecking and the protecting of the 3 point shooters now as well as the shot blocking at the rim in that era. Its just a lot different. Steph Curry wouldn't even be a top 10 player back when Mark Price played. Even now, he is overrated.

btw...I can guarantee you that Steph Curry never wins anything as the best player on a team. Id also bet that he never makes the finals either. He isnt that level of player and lets not make him out to be something he isnt

How do you know any of this?

Seriously... There are so many players back from the 80's and 90's that are gangly, awkward, and not aesthetic in the way they play, and you could say the same thing about them playing in this era.
Team defenses are better, less points are scored, more outside shots are forced today. Basketball seems to be the only sport not willing to let go of the past.

It is basketball at the end of the day. They would work things out, around some small rules that some of you nostalgic posters on here thinks impacts the game on so many levels. It doesn't.

Nash might not win an MVP in the 80's or 90's, but a few players from back then might not win one today.