surprise surprise.. the lakers suck whether or not kobe shoots allot

[kennethgriffin]

22 points on 14 shots.

1.57 points per shot ( well above his career average )

tried setting up an assist 15 times tonight and his team mate only hit the shot 2 times

tried playing like lebron to let hill and lin be his bosh and wade

didnt work

wonder why

[KingPush]

Lakers lost because Kobe choked


They were in the game still

[nathanjizzle]

there was a dozen times kobe brought up the ball instead of lin. kobe killed the game homie. dude is taking away from everyone elses game especially lin.

[Springsteen]

Yea, it totally wasn't those late game turnovers.

[konex]

I don't get why peope keep harping on the offense. They cannot stop PGs or bigs and give up wide open 3s. Defense has always been the issue

[J Shuttlesworth]

Didn't set up shit for anybody at the end there. The last few minutes, he just kept chucking bricks and airballs. The only way Lin was able to get to the free throw line is off an offensive rebound off one of kobe's bricks.

[Rodmantheman]

It was a close game.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Kobe scored 22 points on 15 + 0.44*10 = 19.4 "shots" giving him a ts of 56.7% which actually isn't bad. But TS uses a general 0.44 multiplier for free throws which is fine for a whole season but pretty bad on individual games. I'm pretty sure he had no and-1s today so that puts his real efficiency at 55% TS....still not too bad for his standards....

But the problem goes beyond the #s...for one dude is atrocious on defense....2 it's the way he's shooting...it isn't within the flow of the offense it all..it's almost always iso pull-ups..

[Magic 32]

Lakers lost because Kobe choked


They were in the game still


His teammates took 9 shots in the last 7 min.

Can you guess how many they made.

[ImKobe]

Dude, the game was for the taking in the 4th with both teams missing shots, he made 1 out of 4 shots in the 4th, that one being a layup....and he turned it over with the Lakers down 4 with 20+ seconds to go

Why bother defending him when he's terrible, own up to the mistakes your man makes.

[kennethgriffin]

Didn't set up shit for anybody at the end there. The last few minutes, he just kept chucking bricks and airballs. The only way Lin was able to get to the free throw line is off an offensive rebound off one of kobe's bricks.

i seem to remember kobe letting lin try and do something, he missed. then boozer missed. then kobe set up davis and he missed. johnson took a three and missed. young took a shot in the paint and missed

this was all with under a few minutes left. kobe missed a three and a jumper on the other side that he got fouled on. but made a left handed layup

so you see. the lakers suck as a team. and they suck with kobe taking allot of shots

might aswell shoot em all kobe. look good while losing

[Kvnzhangyay]

i seem to remember kobe letting lin try and do something, he missed. then boozer missed. then kobe set up davis and he missed. johnson took a three and missed. young took a shot in the paint and missed

this was all with under a few minutes left. kobe missed a three and a jumper on the other side that he got fouled on. but made a left handed layup

so you see. the lakers suck as a team. and they suck with kobe taking allot of shots

might aswell shoot em all kobe. look good while losing

Kobe shot 5-15

[Knoe Itawl]

i seem to remember kobe letting lin try and do something, he missed. then boozer missed. then kobe set up davis and he missed. johnson took a three and missed. young took a shot in the paint and missed

this was all with under a few minutes left. kobe missed a three and a jumper on the other side that he got fouled on. but made a left handed layup

so you see. the lakers suck as a team. and they suck with kobe taking allot of shots

might aswell shoot em all kobe. look good while losing

Lol, I clown Kobe Stans on here of course. However, I'm being 100% serious when I tell you that you're one sick hero worshipping ***. I mean, you decided that you wanted to Out Stan the Stans. You decided you wanted to be King Stan. Fukk a Jabbar, fukk a konex, *** a Jacks, fukk a (etc. etc.). I honestly and truly believe you would let Kobe *** your mother and girlfriend in front of you, smack you in the face and say "bytch, why didn't you include your sister"? and run out and get her for him all the while begging his forgiveness for not including her at the beginning.

Congrats. In all of my years of battling Kobe scum, you officially take the cake as King Stan.

:rockon:

[kennethgriffin]

Kobe shot 5-15

so? his free throws and threes more than made up for it

its about output/efficiency overall

in reality he shot over 50% and had 1.57 PPS ( his career points per shot is 1.30... so 0.27+ )

highly efficient

[ImKobe]

so? his free throws and threes more than made up for it

its about output/efficiency overall

in reality he shot over 50% and had 1.57 PPS ( his career points per shot is 1.30... so 0.27+ )

highly efficient

Who cares, he missed them when they mattered. We lost.

3 straight losses that were all winnable until the team gave up in the 2nd half...

[Magic 32]

Congrats. In all of my years of battling Kobe scum, you officially take the cake as King Stan.

:rockon:


I wonder Knoe ...when will you pimp away into the night?

Raising your fist in victory as the bitter 30-something you are, once again using insidehoops as a outlet for your frustrations.

Do you want us to dig up your past activity on this forum again???

Now go to bed.

[JT123]

Lol, I clown Kobe Stans on here of course. However, I'm being 100% serious when I tell you that you're one sick hero worshipping ***. I mean, you decided that you wanted to Out Stan the Stans. You decided you wanted to be King Stan. Fukk a Jabbar, fukk a konex, *** a Jacks, fukk a (etc. etc.). I honestly and truly believe you would let Kobe *** your mother and girlfriend in front of you, smack you in the face and say "bytch, why didn't you include your sister"? and run out and get her for him all the while begging his forgiveness for not including her at the beginning.

Congrats. In all of my years of battling Kobe scum, you officially take the cake as King Stan.

:rockon:
:roll: Body bagged!

[kennethgriffin]

Who cares, he missed them when they mattered. We lost.

3 straight losses that were all winnable until the team gave up in the 2nd half...


if you really were a laker fan you'd be happy when they lose.

you're obviously one of those fake alt accounts that pretends to be a kobe fan. you already renounced your fake fanship tonight

it doesnt make sense for this team to win when it has a top 5 protected pick and no chance at the playoffs

lose every damn game for all i care. as long as kobe gets 25+ i'm happy lol

[Mr. Jabbar]

I would care about kobe taking too many shots and whatnot if he was playing with irving/love to randomly name 2 good players, but i dont kid when sacre looks like the 2nd best laker at times, team would struggle in D-league :facepalm

[JT123]

if you really were a laker fan you'd be happy when they lose.

you're obviously one of those fake alt accounts that pretends to be a kobe fan. you already renounced your fake fanship tonight

it doesnt make sense for this team to win when it has a top 5 protected pick and no chance at the playoffs

lose every damn game for all i care. as long as kobe gets 25+ i'm happy lol
Weren't you claiming Kobe would lead them to the playoffs before the season started? Now you doing a complete 180 and saying you are happy about them losing. :rolleyes:

[sportjames23]

Kenneth in meltdown mode. :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[pastis]

Who cares, he missed them when they mattered. We lost.

3 straight losses that were all winnable until the team gave up in the 2nd half...

wow appreciating what you just admit:applause:

but be aware of kobe stans hating on you know and pretending you arent a real kobe or laker fans

edit: oh already happened.

[Hey Yo]

i seem to remember kobe letting lin try and do something, he missed. then boozer missed. then kobe set up davis and he missed. johnson took a three and missed. young took a shot in the paint and missed

this was all with under a few minutes left. kobe missed a three and a jumper on the other side that he got fouled on. but made a left handed layup

so you see. the lakers suck as a team. and they suck with kobe taking allot of shots

might aswell shoot em all kobe. look good while losing
Welcome to LeBron's world his first 7 seasons.

[CelticBaller]

kobe shot for 30% and this nikka still wondering why they lost? :roll:

[Magic 32]

Welcome to LeBron's world his first 7 seasons.

Except for the top 3 defense and veteran shooters surrounding him.

Not a new success model for top teams in the eastern conference...

http://s29.postimg.org/a8mi6c26v/Mountrushmore.jpg

[Goldrush25]

lose every damn game for all i care. as long as kobe gets 25+ i'm happy lol

That's sad. You're probably too young to understand how sad this statement is coming from an alleged Lakers fan.

[Hey Yo]

What veteran shooters you referring to considering James basically had new starters just about every year his first 7yrs?

btw.....nice pic of the guy Kobe begged to stay in LA and the other he tried to recruit without luck about 8yrs ago

[Magic 32]

btw.....nice pic of the guy Kobe begged

F*ck your lies.



btw.....nice pic of the guy Kobe begged to stay in LA and the other he tried to recruit without luck about 8yrs ago

Nobody's perfect.

Kobe like so many others was blinded by some of the losers on Mount Rushmore of overrated eastern conference "winners".

[T_L_P]

if you really were a laker fan you'd be happy when they lose.

you're obviously one of those fake alt accounts that pretends to be a kobe fan. you already renounced your fake fanship tonight

it doesnt make sense for this team to win when it has a top 5 protected pick and no chance at the playoffs

lose every damn game for all i care. as long as kobe gets 25+ i'm happy lol

:biggums:

How can you call yourself a Laker fan when you throw everyone under the bus not named Kobe?

[Magic 32]

How can you call yourself a Laker fan when you throw everyone under the bus not named Kobe?

Maybe because almost nobody from the outside of the Lakers fanbase is pointing fingers at them, despite the fact that it's a group of players who have done nothing in their careers (and nothing for the Lakers), and are showing no signs of being anything other than awful.

Laker fans are rightly focusing on the failings of unproven career losers.

Kobe haters are focusing their wrath on a proven winner (a reality I guess they try to destroy, even if it takes constant attacks on a 36 year old 5 time champion coming of a complete achilles tear).

[Papaya Petee]

He shot 5-15... 33% from the field.

The Lakers suck when Kobe can't make shots, which is every game.

[T_L_P]

Maybe because almost nobody from the outside of the Lakers fanbase is pointing fingers at them on a daily basis, a group of players who have done nothing in their career (and nothing for the Lakers), and are showing no signs of being anything other than awful.

Laker fans are rightly focusing on the failings of unproven career losers.

Kobe haters are focusing their wrath on a proven winner (a reality I guess they are trying to destroy, even if it takes constent attacks on a 36 year old 5 time champion coming of a complete achilles tear).

I actually do get it this season. The squad sucks and there's no real bright spots aside from Randle (injured) and Ed Davis.

But kenneth and most 'Laker' fans on ISH do this constantly. Pau Gasol is a career loser and because he has less All-Stars than Bosh he wasn't nearly the player. Like, that dude was a huge reason Kobe's team won two extra rings.

Kobe fans would rather his team go to the Finals with him as the man than win it all with him as the second option/disputed #1.

Kenneth wrote on here once that he hopes the talent level in the NBA stays low because he doesn't want Kobe's legacy to be threatened. :kobe:

[kennethgriffin]

kobe haters still dont get it


its a win/win situation every single game



win = and kobe gets praised

lose = and the lakers get closer to that top 5 pick. kobe gets closer to the all time record



take the good with the bad in both cases. but it all balances itself out.


i'd rather them lose every game. but a few wins every now and then is fun

a true laker fan knows whats best for the team. and right now its losing.

[Ariza4three]

Kobe is a massive shitbag choker and so is Kenneth's beta ass. I wish I knew this dude in real life. I really do.

[DMAVS41]

He shot 5-15... 33% from the field.

The Lakers suck when Kobe can't make shots, which is every game.

It's unfair for Kobe because he's old, but yea....it's not hard. If your best player is shooting 37% from the field while jacking it up 23 times a game...while also being a horrid defensive player...and turning it over 3 times a game.

You just aren't winning many games...especially when the supporting cast is as bad as the Lakers cast is.

This isn't difficult though....shit offense, shit defense, and terrible crunch time play so far from Kobe. Doesn't lead to winning...


Sucks, because in the right situation, Kobe could be one of the most dangerous guys in the league...

[Magic 32]

But kenneth and most 'Laker' fans on ISH do this constantly. Pau Gasol is a career loser and because he has less All-Stars than Bosh he wasn't nearly the player. Like, that dude was a huge reason Kobe's team won two extra rings.


I'm not going to defend Pau bashers (although I will gladly discuss what I see as his shortcomings), but I think you will find that these comments are as much of a defense mechanism against Kobe haters as it is a sign of pro-active hero worship.




Kobe fans would rather his team go to the Finals with him as the man than win it all with him as the second option/disputed #1.

I dont think this is always true, but look at the 8 years of hate they had to endure during the Shaq era. Even now the argument is used against Kobe. You never hear people diminish Magic's rings with Kareem. No fanbase has had to defend rings like that.



Kenneth wrote on her
e once that he hopes the talent level in the NBA stays low because he doesn't want Kobe's legacy to be threatened. :kobe:

I think this pretty normal. Just look at all the 30-somethings sprewing "things were better in the old days" garbage in the comment section of MJ youtube videos.

Same thing.

[Kblaze8855]

You cant judge Laker fans by Kenneth. I know lots of real Laker fans. 3 of my 5 best friends have been Laker fans for life. Perfectly reasonable people. Kenneth doesnt care about the Lakers. Hes a Kobe fan. Not my opinion. Hes said hes a Kobe fan not a Laker fan in the past. Cant really hold him against the whole Laker nation.

[Hey Yo]

Maybe because almost nobody from the outside of the Lakers fanbase is pointing fingers at them, despite the fact that it's a group of players who have done nothing in their careers (and nothing for the Lakers), and are showing no signs of being anything other than awful.

Laker fans are rightly focusing on the failings of unproven career losers.

Kobe haters are focusing their wrath on a proven winner (a reality I guess they try to destroy, even if it takes constant attacks on a 36 year old 5 time champion coming of a complete achilles tear).
You mean teammates like Mo Williams, Larry Hughes, Delonte West, Donyell Marshall. Ira Newble, Damon Jones, Scot Pollard, Sasha Pavlovic, Boobie Gibson, Anthony Parker, etc...etc....etc...

Like I said earlier, welcome to LeBron's world his first 7yrs while no one back then (outside of the Cavs fanbase) were blaming them instead of James.

[Magic 32]

You mean teammates like Mo Williams, Larry Hughes, Delonte West, Donyell Marshall. Ira Newble, Damon Jones, Scot Pollard, Sasha Pavlovic, Boobie Gibson, Anthony Parker, etc...etc....etc...

Like I said earlier, welcome to LeBron's world his first 7yrs while no one back then (outside of the Cavs fanbase) were blaming them instead of James.

Welcome to the East.

Where AI, Kidd, Dwight and Lebron all accomplished the greatest feat imaginable in professional basketball...

They reached the NBA finals without another legitimate all-star.

All of them equally great players :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

All the same. I will give you that.



no one back then (outside of the Cavs fanbase) were blaming them instead of James.

Another blatant lie. Go on digging that hole.

[Kblaze8855]

Some of those teams knocked off 7-8 all star players on the way to the finals...

Not like Ray, Sam, and Bigdog with borderline 6th man of the year Tim Thomas was a bad team. They were 6-0 against the Lakers, Spurs, and Kings.

It isnt unimpressive to knock that team off with Mutombo as your second option. When you need old Mutombo to step back into a scoring role...your offense is pretty lacking.

He did his thing....not gonna say he didnt play well. He played great. Im just saying...at that point of his career he shouldnt be leaned on for 15-16ppg.

[InfiniteBaskets]

The past two games were completely winnable for the Lakers against the Nuggets and Grizzles. It's not like the Lakers just completely suck in a different level. Their offense was clicking just fine in the first half last night and then they couldn't run anything in the last five minutes.

If they actually work on some solid set plays to get Kobe the ball in the post area during crunch time they win both games no doubt. It's when Kobe starts jacking up airball 3s and Lin freezes up that they collapse.

[kennethgriffin]

You cant judge Laker fans by Kenneth. I know lots of real Laker fans. 3 of my 5 best friends have been Laker fans for life. Perfectly reasonable people. Kenneth doesnt care about the Lakers. Hes a Kobe fan. Not my opinion. Hes said hes a Kobe fan not a Laker fan in the past. Cant really hold him against the whole Laker nation.
:roll: this guy pretending to have friends while moderating ISH 24/7

i have never seen a moment when you're not online

what do your "friends" think of you always being on your laptop or phone app when theyre around.

do you go "hold up. i'ma let you finish. i just gotta do something real quick" ( 10 minutes later )

"you were saying?...... ah sh*t i gotta respond to griff. i hate this guy!"

( friends leave the room )

( 20 minutes later )

"whered everyone go?"

[Ariza4three]

Some of those teams knocked off 7-8 all star players on the way to the finals...

Not like Ray, Sam, and Bigdog with borderline 6th man of the year Tim Thomas was a bad team. They were 6-0 against the Lakers, Spurs, and Kings.

It isnt unimpressive to knock that team off with Mutombo as your second option. When you need old Mutombo to step back into a scoring role...your offense is pretty lacking.

He did his thing....not gonna say he didnt play well. He played great. Im just saying...at that point of his career he shouldnt be leaned on for 15-16ppg.
Are you the mod who banned Jameerthefear?

[Magic 32]

If they actually work on some solid set plays to get Kobe the ball in the post area during crunch time they win both games no doubt. It's when Kobe starts jacking up airball 3s and Lin freezes up that they collapse.

Or his teammates goes 0-9 in the last 7 min. of the game.

[kennethgriffin]

The past two games were completely winnable for the Lakers against the Nuggets and Grizzles. It's not like the Lakers just completely suck in a different level. Their offense was clicking just fine in the first half last night and then they couldn't run anything in the last five minutes.

If they actually work on some solid set plays to get Kobe the ball in the post area during crunch time they win both games no doubt. It's when Kobe starts jacking up airball 3s and Lin freezes up that they collapse.

nobody has a clue what to do or where to go except kobe


i caught lin staring at kobe in the back court a few times flat footed. and kobe had to tell him where to go


then when kobe gets to the top of the 3pt line. everyones standing still.. kobe has to tell the guys on the right side to cut accross or set a pick

he spends 15 seconds of the shot clock just getting people in the right position so kobe or someone else can get an open look

theyre clueless.

[DMV2]

nobody has a clue what to do or where to go except kobe


i caught lin staring at kobe in the back court a few times flat footed. and kobe had to tell him where to go


then when kobe gets to the top of the 3pt line. everyones standing still.. kobe has to tell the guys on the right side to cut accross or set a pick

he spends 15 seconds of the shot clock just getting people in the right position so kobe or someone else can get an open look

theyre clueless.

Kobe is clueless too....seems like he has no clue on how to shoot over 40% anymore.

[Magic 32]

Kobe is clueless too....seems like he has no clue on how to shoot over 40% anymore.

It's called not having legs.

And not playing for 18 months.

And playing with guys who are untrustworthy and can't hit a shot for 7 minutes straight (even at the rim).

[Mr. Jabbar]

lakers are utter garbage, and their performance during crunch time is beyond pathetic. i can see philly taking their first W against us

our best player is playing bad and hes old n coming from injury, he looks GASSED halfway through the first quarter and hes taking all the shots in the 4th smh, then it gets interesting, cause whos our 2nd best player? ffs some games it has bee SACRE :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

our coach is clueless and beta as phvck, hes afraid of kobe

at least da real lambo aint banging kobes mom

[pastis]

It's called not having legs.

And not playing for 18 months.

And playing with guys who are untrustworthy and can't hit a shot for 7 minutes straight (even at the rim).

im not sure if you are a kenneth alt or a hidden kobe-lover with a magicjohnson mask. or...and this would be more dangerous....there are more blind kobe-stans like griffin out there




our coach is clueless and beta as phvck, hes afraid of kobe

kobe is not coachable if you arent the gota coach. kobe stans may interprete this as "alpha", but most of the intelligent and objective bball inerested people would call this just "shitty behavior to coach and m8s"

[Hey Yo]

Kobe is clueless too....seems like he has no clue on how to shoot over 40% anymore.
Saw a stat earlier that in the 15gms that Kobe has played this season, only 1 of them has he shot above 50%

[DMV2]

It's called not having legs.

And not playing for 18 months.

And playing with guys who are untrustworthy and can't hit a shot for 7 minutes straight (even at the rim).
Doesn't seem like it's affecting his shot attempts(23.4 attempts per game).

Returns from an 18-month injury. Bad legs. Still taking the most shots in the league.

How great is our God? LOL

[Hey Yo]

lakers are utter garbage, and their performance during crunch time is beyond pathetic. i can see philly taking their first W against us

our best player is playing bad and hes old n coming from injury, he looks GASSED halfway through the first quarter and hes taking all the shots in the 4th smh, then it gets interesting, cause whos our 2nd best player? ffs some games it has bee SACRE :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

our coach is clueless and beta as phvck, hes afraid of kobe

at least da real lambo aint banging kobes mom
Outside of Phil, they all have been. But hey, at least Magic is happy with the Mike D firing and Scott hiring.

[Kblaze8855]

our best player is playing bad and hes old n coming from injury, he looks GASSED halfway through the first quarter and hes taking all the shots in the 4th smh, then it gets interesting, cause whos our 2nd best player? ffs some games it has bee SACRE

Meanwhile Pau putting up 19/11 with a career high in blocks.

[Mr. Jabbar]

Outside of Phil, they all have been. But hey, at least Magic is happy with the Mike D firing and Scott hiring.

dfish wasn't either :bowdown:

[DMAVS41]

Meanwhile Pau putting up 19/11 with a career high in blocks.

:roll:

[Mr. Jabbar]

Meanwhile Pau putting up 19/11 with a career high in blocks.

dammit, the east is like early retirement :facepalm

[Nowitness]

dammit, the east is like early retirement :facepalm

but kobe under performed in 5 of his 7 eastern playoff matchups :eek:

[DMV2]

I actually blame Lin more than anybody on the Lakers. This is the perfect opportunity for him to rekindle some Linsanity magic but he's being a p*ssy. 8.5 FGA per game isn't enough. Even if Kobe is chucking away, Lin can still take about 12-15 FGA per game. Especially when Swaggy was out for most of the year.

Last night, he hit his first two 3-pointers then kinda stopped. Kobe wasn't even that aggressive on shots either until the 2nd half.

[Kblaze8855]

22/9 on 54% vs the west.

I wish we got him years ago. Boozer working out? Liking that pick and roll D?

[Mr. Jabbar]

22/9 on 54% vs the west.

I wish we got him years ago. Boozer working out? Liking that pick and roll D?

i wish we got Boozer years ago, now we're tanking properly

[DMAVS41]

I actually blame Lin more than anybody on the Lakers. This is the perfect opportunity for him to rekindle some Linsanity magic but he's being a p*ssy. 8.5 FGA per game isn't enough. Even if Kobe is chucking away, Lin can still take about 12-15 FGA per game. Especially when Swaggy was out for most of the year.

Last night, he hit his first two 3-pointers then kinda stopped. Kobe wasn't even that aggressive on shots either until the 2nd half.

It's really hard to blame the teammates the most when:

Lakers offense with Kobe? 106
Lakers offense without Kobe? 108

Lakers defense with Kobe? 120
Lakers defense without Kobe? 107

Kobe TS%? 49%
Lakers TS%? 52%

Kobe efg%? 42%
Lakers efg%? 47%


Kobe is clearly the best player here, but lets tap the breaks on this notion that Kobe is being held back by terrible teammates. Teammates have been terrible no doubt, but guess what...so has Kobe so far.

[navy]

I actually blame Lin more than anybody on the Lakers. This is the perfect opportunity for him to rekindle some Linsanity magic but he's being a p*ssy. 8.5 FGA per game isn't enough. Even if Kobe is chucking away, Lin can still take about 12-15 FGA per game. Especially when Swaggy was out for most of the year.

Last night, he hit his first two 3-pointers then kinda stopped. Kobe wasn't even that aggressive on shots either until the 2nd half.
Yep. It's pretty obvious that the Lakers go as Lin goes. He needs to be aggressive and smart. His inconsistency has always been a problem.

Should have kept Dantoni

[AnaheimLakers24]

lakers suck including the bean

[DMV2]

It's really hard to blame the teammates the most when:

Lakers offense with Kobe? 106
Lakers offense without Kobe? 108

Lakers defense with Kobe? 120
Lakers defense without Kobe? 107

Kobe TS%? 49%
Lakers TS%? 52%

Kobe efg%? 42%
Lakers efg%? 47%


Kobe is clearly the best player here, but lets tap the breaks on this notion that Kobe is being held back by terrible teammates. Teammates have been terrible no doubt, but guess what...so has Kobe so far.
No doubt, Kobe's been awful and a cancer. But for Lin, who's been heavily criticized for his $5/5/15MM contract, he should be more aggressive especially on an expiring contract. This is his $15MM season!

[ArbitraryWater]

if you really were a laker fan you'd be happy when they lose.

you're obviously one of those fake alt accounts that pretends to be a kobe fan. you already renounced your fake fanship tonight

it doesnt make sense for this team to win when it has a top 5 protected pick and no chance at the playoffs

lose every damn game for all i care. as long as kobe gets 25+ i'm happy lol

You can't be this stupid.... you can't. Joke account.

kenneth = Undisputed GOAT troll.

[Magic 32]

but kobe under performed in 5 of his 7 eastern playoff matchups :eek:

Do you know what top heavy means?

[sportjames23]

:roll: this guy pretending to have friends while moderating ISH 24/7

i have never seen a moment when you're not online

what do your "friends" think of you always being on your laptop or phone app when theyre around.

do you go "hold up. i'ma let you finish. i just gotta do something real quick" ( 10 minutes later )

"you were saying?...... ah sh*t i gotta respond to griff. i hate this guy!"

( friends leave the room )

( 20 minutes later )

"whered everyone go?"

LOL, you still mad KBlaze lit you up the other day? :oldlol:

[InfiniteBaskets]

Or his teammates goes 0-9 in the last 7 min. of the game.


nobody has a clue what to do or where to go except kobe


i caught lin staring at kobe in the back court a few times flat footed. and kobe had to tell him where to go


then when kobe gets to the top of the 3pt line. everyones standing still.. kobe has to tell the guys on the right side to cut accross or set a pick

he spends 15 seconds of the shot clock just getting people in the right position so kobe or someone else can get an open look

theyre clueless

It's completely on Kobe if he's consciously choosing to take bad 3 point shots when he himself can get a better shot off. As old and as he is, Kobe still has some elite footwork in the post and scores at a high efficiency rate when he's got a SG backed down. He just doesn't have the quickness and strength to do it all by himself. That's on Byron Scott to draw up plays where Lin and the other guys can feed Kobe sealing off his man.

And it's hilarious to blame Lin last night for not saving the Lakers and passing it to Kobe prior to the turnover. It's like blaming Chalmers for the 2011 finals and asking him why did he have to pass to LeBron to look bad when he should've single-handedly taken it upon himself to win Miami a championship.

Lin didn't have the angle to attack, so he passed to Kobe and got out the way. Kobe came off a nice pick and roll and drew Gasol out. Literally all he had to do was execute a bounce pass to his big man and you knew the Lakers would've had a lay-up. That shovel pass which Gasol deflected was a mistake and anyone who plays basketball could've told you that. Were there a bunch of other mistakes committed by the Lakers? Sure, Lin could've dumped it off to Davis a few plays earlier rather than challenging Gasol at the baseline. Swaggy could've not gone ISO himself for bricks. Lin could've hit 2/2 FTs rather than 1/2. But Kobe is still the unequivocal leader of his team and he's going to get criticized the most.

[Cali Syndicate]

Kenneth in meltdown mode. :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

But, when is he not?

[KungFuJoe]

I just can't stand Kobe...the way he's always feast or famine. Takes 0 shots in the 1st quarter, moving the ball well, lakers playing as a team and up.

Then as soon as they got a little cold in the third quarter...he's like "**** this" and he starts chucking away. He should know that you don't just abandon what was working because of a lapse. You stick with the game plan....it's the only way these guys will become more consistent.

But when guys are so used to Kobe shot jacking and standing around watching (cuz they know they ain't getting the ball) they get confused and don't know what to do. The lakers inability to close out games is ALL on Kobe and Scott. They are instilling and encouraging bad game play.

Not that I'd expect differently from Kobe. Just a dumb dumb player. Maybe the dumbest in the league. He's highly skilled but dumb as a door knob.

[Ariza4three]

I just can't stand Kobe...the way he's always feast or famine. Takes 0 shots in the 1st quarter, moving the ball well, lakers playing as a team and up.

Then as soon as they got a little cold in the third quarter...he's like "**** this" and he starts chucking away. He should know that you don't just abandon what was working because of a lapse. You stick with the game plan....it's the only way these guys will become more consistent.

But when guys are so used to Kobe shot jacking and standing around watching (cuz they know they ain't getting the ball) they get confused and don't know what to do. The lakers inability to close out games is ALL on Kobe and Scott. They are instilling and encouraging bad game play.

Not that I'd expect differently from Kobe. Just a dumb dumb player. Maybe the dumbest in the league. He's highly skilled but dumb as a door knob.
Funny how you only say this because your a LOF.

[SwayDizzle]

People need to lay off the Kobes. Kobe is a specialist. There is a reason why a coach is in place. It is on the coach to manage the team properly. Kobe tries his best every night; puts in the time and effort to improve. A good coach would bench Kobe when he isn't playing well and manage his minutes properly. If his legs give up after 30-35 mins, then don't play him so much in the beginning of the game. Kobe is a closer. Let him do just that.