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Mass Debator
12-02-2014, 07:01 PM
Is shooting about 54% at 21 ppg. 22ppg on 58% if you exclude his single worst game of the season where he went Kobe-mode.

Harden PER 25.06
Lebron PER 24.88
Wade PER 24.28
Kobe PER 20.84
Klay PER 19.80

His mid-range has been automatic. Pull ups, fade aways, etc.

Still sucks at the free throw line though :facepalm

Wade always start slow too. If he stays healthy, I can't wait to see the numbers he put up around all-star break. :bowdown:

dubeta
12-02-2014, 07:02 PM
and?

jrong
12-02-2014, 07:17 PM
Is shooting about 54% at 21 ppg. 22ppg on 58% if you exclude his single worst game of the season where he went Kobe-mode.

Harden PER 25.06
Lebron PER 24.88
Wade PER 24.28
Kobe PER 20.84
Klay PER 19.80

His mid-range has been automatic. Pull ups, fade aways, etc.

Still sucks at the free throw line though :facepalm

Wade always start slow too. If he stays healthy, I can't wait to see the numbers he put up around all-star break. :bowdown:

He's played 10 games and shot 50 percent or better in 9 of them. The one you referenced where he was below 50% was a doozy, though, 4/18. If not for that game, he'd be the team's leading scorer and the media would have to stop pushing false narratives about the team.

His FT shooting is inexcusable, however, especially considering how good his mid-range has become. He also needs to rebound more, since the Heat need all the help they can get on the glass.

Above all, he needs to demonstratively take over the team, stat. Even if it means fewer assists and a lower FG%. The Heat can't guard anybody, so they need all the scoring they can get. That's the only way they're gonna win.

GrapeApe
12-02-2014, 07:35 PM
His scoring arsenal is as complete as it's ever been, but as others have mentioned he HAS to improve his FT shooting. Still though, 21/6/4 on 54% for a player who historically starts slow is nothing to sneeze at. I like him as a facilitator but I agree he needs to step up and be more assertive as a scorer. He's capable of being a 25ppg guy on good efficiency and frankly the Heat might need those type of numbers from him.

NZStreetBaller
12-02-2014, 08:16 PM
If d wade wins the chip this year does that put him above lebron???

Lebronxrings
12-02-2014, 08:18 PM
If d wade wins the chip this year does that put him above lebron???
no cuz they're expected to win this year.

2 "Super"stars
2 all stars
1 rising star
best pg in the draft, and college dominater, champion
great role players
refs

LoneyROY7
12-02-2014, 08:37 PM
no cuz they're expected to win this year.

2 "Super"stars
2 all stars
1 rising star
best pg in the draft, and college dominater, champion
great role players
refs

This dude MAD.

Droid101
12-02-2014, 08:41 PM
no cuz they're expected to win this year.

2 "Super"stars
2 all stars
1 rising star
best pg in the draft, and college dominater, champion
great role players
refs
If this isn't ban worthy, what is?

Smoke117
12-03-2014, 03:15 AM
Funniest thing is all the haters before the season...saying how dwade can't adjust and that now that his athleticism is falling he isn't shit...yeah well he's averaging 21ppg on 54% basically doing whatever he has pleased scoring wise ALL WITH A GAME OF SKILL. He isn't out there splitting the double team and exploding to the rim or even attacking it in general. It's rare to see him dunk...BUT he's still doing whatever he wants with what he has. If anything he needs to shoot enough to average 25ppg in the 30-34mpg he will play because the team needs it. The sad part is just like before lebron...the heat have no pg that can really help play make and take the pressure off of wade. Chalmers is a nice player, but he's not really a good fit as a play maker...so wade is stuck with that role while having to lead the team in scoring. This isn't 2009 though and he's not 27 anymore. He's still easily doubting all you haters wrong doe.

Dresta
12-03-2014, 06:38 AM
Yeah, he's got so little explosiveness finishing around the rim now, but the large array of skillful moves he has to finish in the 5-10 foot range, and his ability to hit extremely tough shots at a high clip has allowed him to continue playing at an elite level. Still blows by most defenders on the perimeter though.

JebronLames
12-03-2014, 06:57 AM
Gonna bump this thread when wade is a bum in the playoffs, and heat get bounced in the first round.

ImKobe
12-03-2014, 07:13 AM
Dude's had so much rest, he should be efficient.

plowking
12-03-2014, 07:14 AM
If this isn't ban worthy, what is?

Do you post anything about basketball, or is it all complaining and crying for the most part?

IMObjective
12-03-2014, 07:33 AM
Gonna bump this thread when wade is a bum in the playoffs, and heat get bounced in the first round.
Damn, are the haters the heat fans talking about mostly LeBron stans? That's just sad. This poster was rooting for dwade's team just last year.

Dragic4Life
12-03-2014, 08:21 AM
so?

CasterL
12-03-2014, 08:25 AM
As others have said, if he stays healthy those numbers should only improve. I think taking games by the scruff of the neck is probably done for him though.

And Lebron stans... No shame.

Mass Debator
12-03-2014, 02:25 PM
Dude's had so much rest, he should be efficient.
Kobe had a whole year of rest and came back to shoot 39% lol
Rookie Wade basically had the same FG% as peak Kobe lol

penny4president
12-03-2014, 02:27 PM
no cuz they're expected to win this year.

2 "Super"stars
2 all stars
1 rising star
best pg in the draft, and college dominater, champion
great role players
refs

you're letting your vision block by lebron's ball :D

Droid101
12-03-2014, 02:30 PM
Do you post anything about basketball, or is it all complaining and crying for the most part?
I do. Most of it gets buried by the thousands of garbage posts such as the one by lebronxrings above. Maybe that's why you miss them?

Hope this helps.

Le Shaqtus
12-03-2014, 02:31 PM
Bran stans can't give props to anyone outside of LeBron, Jesus Christ.

The worst basketball fans ever.

Hey Yo
12-03-2014, 02:36 PM
His scoring arsenal is as complete as it's ever been, but as others have mentioned he HAS to improve his FT shooting. Still though, 21/6/4 on 54% for a player who historically starts slow is nothing to sneeze at. I like him as a facilitator but I agree he needs to step up and be more assertive as a scorer. He's capable of being a 25ppg guy on good efficiency and frankly the Heat might need those type of numbers from him.
Can't argue with that, but unfortunately for Heat fans Wade would only be able to do that for about 50 games due to future DNP's this year.

dubeta
12-03-2014, 04:00 PM
Efficient but not dominant

SexSymbol
12-03-2014, 05:48 PM
Kobe had a whole year of rest and came back to shoot 39% lol
Rookie Wade basically had the same FG% as peak Kobe lol
Well, he's a slasher, his FG% should be higher than somebody's who lives in mid-range for at least the last decade now

Mass Debator
12-03-2014, 06:07 PM
Well, he's a slasher, his FG% should be higher than somebody's who lives in mid-range for at least the last decade now
I don't get what you mean by "should be higher." Slashers don't automatically shoot high percentages you know...look at Tyreke, Ellis, Westbrook, Wall, Harden, Rose, etc.

A major aspect of his game WAS slashing, but his high IQ allows him to be efficient no matter the age. What is Wade now? His game is entirely mid-range and post play.

SexSymbol
12-03-2014, 06:23 PM
I don't get what you mean by "should be higher." Slashers don't automatically shoot high percentages you know...look at Tyreke, Ellis, Westbrook, Wall, Harden, Rose, etc.

A major aspect of his game WAS slashing, but his high IQ allows him to be efficient no matter the age. What is Wade now? His game is entirely mid-range and post play.
He still is a very good slasher, it's not exactly about speed, but a fast first step ant technique.

Ellis, Harden aren't exactly slashers, I'd argue Westbrook has a tendency for stupid shots from not his comfortable range too.
Tyreke is just a bad player, Rose is stupid.
Wall has a questionable IQ too.
We're trying to compare superstars here, don't bring Tyreke, Ellis or Harden in these debates. Don't bring a knife into a gun fight

GrapeApe
12-03-2014, 07:05 PM
Can't argue with that, but unfortunately for Heat fans Wade would only be able to do that for about 50 games due to future DNP's this year.

Obviously his health is an ongoing concern, but it's very encouraging that he's played in every back to back so far and looked very good in the process. Thankfully the games he missed weren't knee related and there's been no talk of a "maintenence plan" this season (which I believe did more harm than good last season). I can live with some DNP's for minor injuries as long as his knees are holding up. That said, the Heat will need him on the floor on a nightly basis in order to contend for the division.

gts
12-03-2014, 07:08 PM
no cuz they're expected to win this year.

2 "Super"stars
2 all stars
1 rising star
best pg in the draft, and college dominater, champion
great role players
refs:facepalm

Fire Colangelo
12-03-2014, 07:42 PM
He still is a very good slasher, it's not exactly about speed, but a fast first step ant technique.

Ellis, Harden aren't exactly slashers, I'd argue Westbrook has a tendency for stupid shots from not his comfortable range too.
Tyreke is just a bad player, Rose is stupid.
Wall has a questionable IQ too.
We're trying to compare superstars here, don't bring Tyreke, Ellis or Harden in these debates. Don't bring a knife into a gun fight

So who's a slasher then?

Wade has high fg% not because he's a "slasher", but because he has higher ball IQ than any other SG in the league.

Smoke117
12-03-2014, 07:47 PM
Wade was always the best post player of the "big three" and I've always liked that he mixes up the mid range post game with the deep post game. You don't see that a lot from guards. They just want to fade away from the basket...but Wade has a hook shot in the post that is complete money. He's been working down there a lot this season and putting in all kinds of work. He's so long and strong that his actual height has never mattered.

Fire Colangelo
12-03-2014, 08:03 PM
Not to mention Wade is the best shot blocking guard in the history of the NBA.

upside24
12-03-2014, 09:38 PM
Wade has always been one of my favorites to watch. His game is so complete.
His 46 point game against the Celtics in 2010 is my favorite game.

It's good to seem him having a good start to the season.