The season after both Shaq/Gasol leaves Kobe misses the playoffs

[dubeta]

Interesting 2005 and now in 2014

Seriously not trying to upset/troll but just thought it is an interesting fact, considering the amount of people here saying things like '1a/1b, Kobe was clear cut the best player on the team'

Its interesting that the 2 seasons Kobe misses the playoffs (playing more than 10 games), is when he loses his dominant front court presence.

Discuss, is it just random chance that the Lakers arent good after they left, or is it something more?

[chazzy]

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[ImKobe]

Because he had a supporting cast that was good enough to make the Playoffs in those years, right?

And Gasol missed the Playoffs last year, and the year before got destroyed in the first round after Kobe sacrificed himself to make the Playoffs in the first place.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Because he had a supporting cast that was good enough to make the Playoffs in those years, right?
In 2005? They were. Coaching changes, and his own health didn't help matters.

[ImKobe]

In 2005? They were. Coaching changes, and his own health didn't help matters.

Really?

They were a Playoff-caliber team under Rudy T that year, but sucked under Hamblen

Plus, Kobe was playing injured and missed 16 games, Odom missed 18, most of the roster playing together for the first time, team was 30th in defense as well..

Devean George missed 67 games, Divac was a serviceable player the year before but only played 15 games that season and was finished, Chucky Atkins was the only player that didn't miss a game.

They needed at least 45 wins. That maybe would have happened if Kobe and Odom were healthy all season and Devean George didn't need ankle surgery prior to the season. :confusedshrug:

[GimmeThat]

they should have allowed Kwame Brown to wear some of those WR gloves

[Done_And_Done]

You're a terrible poster and I hate your face and your mothers demonic womb

That is all.

[Rooster]

Really?

They were a Playoff-caliber team under Rudy T that year, but sucked under Hamblen

Plus, Kobe was playing injured and missed 16 games, Odom missed 18, most of the roster playing together for the first time, team was 30th in defense as well..

Devean George missed 67 games, Divac was a serviceable player the year before but only played 15 games that season and was finished, Chucky Atkins was the only player that didn't miss a game.

They needed at least 45 wins. That maybe would have happened if Kobe and Odom were healthy all season and Devean George didn't need ankle surgery prior to the season. :confusedshrug:

I don't think Devean George would have made an impact regardless if he was healthy. His game relies heavily on other people making plays for him. Butler actually was decent but he was inexperience. I think Vlade could have done something but the rosters have just too many holes in defense. Chucky could hardly guard a lick, Mihm was just soft and Brian Grant was on his last legs.

[LilEddyCurry]

Because he had a supporting cast that was good enough to make the Playoffs in those years, right?

And Gasol missed the Playoffs last year, and the year before got destroyed in the first round after Kobe sacrificed himself to make the Playoffs in the first place.
Kobe was playing Kobe-ball on a stacked team which caused them to struggle to make the playoffs and form chemistry. That is the reason why he got so worn out and why the team struggled.

[Rooster]

Kobe was playing Kobe-ball on a stacked team which caused them to struggle to make the playoffs and form chemistry. That is the reason why he got so worn out and why the team struggled.

:facepalm . Nash was out early . Gasol was bothered by nagging injury and look awful at the first half of the season even getting outplayed by Earl Clark .Dwight just came back from back surgery and he struggled at both ends to the point of which he was having time keeping the ball in his hands. Team look stacked in paper but in reality it was only Kobe who was playing like an all Star.

[ImKobe]

Kobe was playing Kobe-ball on a stacked team which caused them to struggle to make the playoffs and form chemistry. That is the reason why he got so worn out and why the team struggled.

Kobe was leading the league in scoring while shooting around 48-50%

rest of the team struggled to score (bench was god awful), Dwight was getting hacked in crunch time and missed FTs, allowing us to lose some close games, team played horrible defense (defense was the issue).

Then Kobe switched to point guard and kept on dominating, Howard's back improved and Earl Clark stepped it up, Kobe led us to a dozen or so comeback wins that ended up putting us back into the Playoff picture.

Remember the Portland game prior to him tearing the achilles? Or the achilles game?

Kobe rallied the team back and was forced to play 40-48 minutes a game because our guards were injured outside of Meeks & Morris. He had to play full games because our bench got outplayed.

Nash injured himself in the 2nd game of the season, Pau was in and out of lineups with his leg injuries and struggled to shoot wide open jump shots (the same shots Jordan Hill is splashing for us right now). Dwight wasn't nearly as good defensively early in the season.


Sure, Kobe had his share of bad games, but the team overall didn't show up for half a season. They won like 28 out of their last 40 with Kobe averaging around 25/7/8 on 46% shooting in those games. Lakers don't make the Playoffs if Kobe doesn't go HAM @ Dallas, rallies the team back from 25 down in the 2nd half against the Pelicans, hits 3 straight 3s to get it to OT vs Raptors...

Kobe plays great = it's his fault the team is struggling
Kobe plays bad = it's his fault they lose

Regardless of how Kobe plays, it's his fault according to his haters.

[LEFT4DEAD]

Kobe was leading the league in scoring while shooting around 48-50%

rest of the team struggled to score (bench was god awful), Dwight was getting hacked in crunch time and missed FTs, allowing us to lose some close games, team played horrible defense (defense was the issue).

Then Kobe switched to point guard and kept on dominating, Howard's back improved and Earl Clark stepped it up, Kobe led us to a dozen or so comeback wins that ended up putting us back into the Playoff picture.

Remember the Portland game prior to him tearing the achilles? Or the achilles game?

Kobe rallied the team back and was forced to play 40-48 minutes a game because our guards were injured outside of Meeks & Morris. He had to play full games because our bench got outplayed.

Nash injured himself in the 2nd game of the season, Pau was in and out of lineups with his leg injuries and struggled to shoot wide open jump shots (the same shots Jordan Hill is splashing for us right now). Dwight wasn't nearly as good defensively early in the season.


Sure, Kobe had his share of bad games, but the team overall didn't show up for half a season. They won like 28 out of their last 40 with Kobe averaging around 25/7/8 on 46% shooting in those games. Lakers don't make the Playoffs if Kobe doesn't go HAM @ Dallas, rallies the team back from 25 down in the 2nd half against the Pelicans, hits 3 straight 3s to get it to OT vs Raptors...

Kobe plays great = it's his fault the team is struggling
Kobe plays bad = it's his fault they lose

Regardless of how Kobe plays, it's his fault according to his haters.
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[Mr. Jabbar]

i was hoping op would last more before the next ban :facepalm

[sportjames23]

Interesting 2005 and now in 2014

Seriously not trying to upset/troll but just thought it is an interesting fact, considering the amount of people here saying things like '1a/1b, Kobe was clear cut the best player on the team'

Its interesting that the 2 seasons Kobe misses the playoffs (playing more than 10 games), is when he loses his dominant front court presence.

Discuss, is it just random chance that the Lakers arent good after they left, or is it something more?


:whatever:

[I<3NBA]

Because he had a supporting cast that was good enough to make the Playoffs in those years, right?

you can say that about Lebron Cavs 1.0 the same too. but that doesn't stop you guys from making fun of him failing to beat the Spurs with that cast no?

[ImKobe]

you can say that about Lebron Cavs 1.0 the same too. but that doesn't stop you guys from making fun of him failing to beat the Spurs with that cast no?

Not making fun of him, but he did play like absolute garbage in the Finals. There were 2 close games in that series, and he sucked in both of em.

And the team Kobe spanked the Spurs the following year with was hardly better than the 07 Cavs...

Kobe alone dominated that series with 29/6/4 a game on 53% shooting, 16/30 in the clinching game to put up 39...

and before you say Pau & Odom, they averaged 13/10 both while Pau shot 44% and Odom 41% while Duncan put up 22/17/5 on that front court and TP averaged 19/4/6 on 48% shooting.

[Mr. Jabbar]

And lol at making the playoffs in the east some sort of feat smfh