Why aren't blacks protesting the sentence Ray Rice got?

[Akrazotile]

This dude is a NFL runningback who slugged a woman unconscious which very easily could have KILLED her.

He basically got probation.


Where's Al??

Where's Jessie???

[Dictator]

:lol

[Akrazotile]

:lol

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:lol

[Akrazotile]

Imagine if a white player had done that to a black woman :lebronamazed:


Shit would be ferguson times a thousand.

[97 bulls]

What else should've happened to him? The suspension cost him 10 million dollars, he was cut by the Ravens, his name has been dragged through the mud in the media. And he got what most first time offenders for spousal abuse.

Let me guess, because he's black, he should be killed right?

[Akrazotile]

What else should've happened to him? The suspension cost him 10 million dollars, he was cut by the Ravens, his name has been dragged through the mud in the media. And he got what most first time offenders for spousal abuse.

Let me guess, because he's black, he should be killed right?


Hey, I personally dont care what he did to the woman because she decided to still marry him so that whole thing is between them.

But theres so much outrage here when police officers use violence on criminals who cause trouble and then the officer gets off with barely a legal wrist slap.... Why isnt that same standard applied to Rice? Can you imagine if a policeman punched a random black guy that way? DAMN. But because Rice is black, other blacks dont care if hes violent?

Seems to be what it comes down to. Blacks are silent about black violence, loud about white violence.

Waddup wit dat doe??

[Dictator]

Hey, I personally dont care what he did to the woman because she decided to still marry him so that whole thing is between them.

But theres so much outrage here when police officers use violence on criminals who cause trouble and then get off with barely a legal wrist slap.... Why isnt that same standard applied to Rice? Can you imagine if a policeman punched a black guy that way? DAMN. But because Rice is black, other blacks dont care if hes violent?

Seems to be what it comes down to. Blacks are silent about black violence, loud about white violence.

Waddup wit dat doe??

Obviously there is difference in outrage between physical assaulting someone and killing someone.

[wakencdukest]

Black opinion doesn't even matter in this case, it wasn't racial.

[KyrieTheFuture]

Uh I'm pretty sure Black people are pissed COPS are killing them, not random White people

[Jailblazers7]

Poor troll attempt. And if you're not trolling then you're blinded by some serious priors.

[navy]

This is really the best you got?

[gts]

Black opinion doesn't even matter in this case, it wasn't racial. i'm pretty sure he said "nikka please" when he slapped her

[IamRAMBO24]

Hey, I personally dont care what he did to the woman because she decided to still marry him so that whole thing is between them.

But theres so much outrage here when police officers use violence on criminals who cause trouble and then the officer gets off with barely a legal wrist slap.... Why isnt that same standard applied to Rice? Can you imagine if a policeman punched a random black guy that way? DAMN. But because Rice is black, other blacks dont care if hes violent?

Seems to be what it comes down to. Blacks are silent about black violence, loud about white violence.

Waddup wit dat doe??

Stupid post.

Analogies are usually fallacious in nature, but you took this one to the extreme and multilate it to find some sort of comparison.

If Rice was a black cop who beat on a white woman, then it would be a fair comparison.

[Swaggin916]

This is a reach

[Jailblazers7]

Stupid post.

Analogies are usually fallacious in nature, but you took this one to the extreme and multilate it to find some sort of comparison.

If Rice was a black cop who beat on a white woman, then it would be a fair comparison.

Yeah hes smart enough to know that but hes playining stupid. The outrage is that black people feel that the legal system is working against them. That the legal institutions in America are slanted against them. It about institutional racism. But hey he found a famous black guy doing something to another black person so...hypocrisy!

But it's more of a feminist issue because this is more about the traditional (and by that I mean deeply historical) male/female dynamic...but let's ignore the fact that feminists actually made a huge deal about it.

[IamRAMBO24]

Yeah hes smart enough to know that but hes playining stupid. The outrage is that black people feel that the legal system is working against them. That the legal institutions in America are slanted against them. It about institutional racism. But hey he found a famous black guy doing something to another black person so...hypocrisy!

But it's more of a feminist issue because this is more about the traditional (and by that I mean deeply historical) male/female dynamic...but let's ignore the fact that feminists actually made a huge deal about it.

I don't think he is smart, he is being serious by reaching for straws trying to defend the actions of the police. He's not the only one doing it, there are other posters doing the same.

Their argument is that because police officers are persons of authority, the use of force is justified no matter what level of threat they face, basically, if the person did not follow orders, he should die.

This kind of blind obedience to authority is worrisome to say the least.

[Patrick Chewing]

What else should've happened to him? The suspension cost him 10 million dollars, he was cut by the Ravens, his name has been dragged through the mud in the media. And he got what most first time offenders for spousal abuse.

Let me guess, because he's black, he should be killed right?


Let me ask you a question, how come Al Sharpton never shows his face when thousands of blacks die at the hands of other blacks in senseless crimes across America?

Why is it that he only decides to show his face when it is a white person responsible for the death of a black person?

I thought he was supposed to be impartial and be a uniter as a spokesperson for the Black community?


Get back to me on that, son.

[iamgine]

This dude is a NFL runningback who slugged a woman unconscious which very easily could have KILLED her.

He basically got probation.


Where's Al??

Where's Jessie???
Why should they?

[IamRAMBO24]

Let me ask you a question, how come Al Sharpton never shows his face when thousands of blacks die at the hands of other blacks in senseless crimes across America?

Why is it that he only decides to show his face when it is a white person responsible for the death of a black person?

I thought he was supposed to be impartial and be a uniter as a spokesperson for the Black community?


Get back to me on that, son.

Grasping at straws again. Can you guys ever have an honest discussion?

A fair comparison would be black cops killing whites.

[christian1923]

Women should be the ones mainly protesting about that case.

Men care, but not enough to protest over.

[Akrazotile]

Yeah hes smart enough to know that but hes playining stupid. The outrage is that black people feel that the legal system is working against them. That the legal institutions in America are slanted against them. It about institutional racism. But hey he found a famous black guy doing something to another black person so...hypocrisy!

But it's more of a feminist issue because this is more about the traditional (and by that I mean deeply historical) male/female dynamic...but let's ignore the fact that feminists actually made a huge deal about it.


No it's not.

What about Duke Lacrosse? A completely made up story with a made-up black victim and made-up white perpetrators.

Al spoke out. Jessie spoke out. New Black Panthers held a protest. Jessie Jackson set up a fund to pay for the fraudulent accusers tuition, and even once it began to come out she was probably lying he said it IT DID NOT MATTER IF SHE FABRICATED THE STORY - THEY WOULD PAY HER TUITION.


This shit has NOTHING TO DO WITH JUSTICE IN THE LEGAL SYSTEM. It has nothing to do with police. Just like the riots have nothing to do with a solution. Ferguson, Garner, Dukethese things have nothing to do with justice, but rather black people taking any opportunity they can to skewer a white person. If they cared about violence, they'd care about black murder rates, about ray rice, about all these countless stories. THEY ONLY CARE WHEN THE PERPETRATOR IS WHITE BECAUSE THEY WANT TO SEE A WHITE GUY PUNISHED, REGARDLESS OF GUILT.


Look at how much more blame ROGER GOODELL is getting in the media than Ray Rice, the guy who actually KNOCKED OUT janaynay. Scared little cowards like you only feel comfortable targeting the big rich white guy, or the white cop, or any white guy with authority, and it's NOT about stopping violence, it's NOT about stopping crime, it's about taking someone down higher than you. That's all you care about, that's all they care about. Nobody goes after poor criminals because you're not jealous or resentful of poor criminals, you don't presume them to be arrogant and look down on you. You do presume those things of any member of the white 'establishment' i.e. the wealthy, republicans, police officers, the church. It's ok when YOU get to be the arbitrary decider, it's ok how much money YOU make, of course YOU can make an unPC joke but it's not ok if someone else does. This whole thing has nothing to do with the way a human was treated, it has everything to do with the usual suspect liberals targeting any person higher than them in the establishment out of primal human resentment. Goodell, the police, I'm sure George Bush is being blamed for this somewhere, doesn't matter. You will never blame a black person, a poor person, a muslim, a woman, even if they're at fault because you're afraid. You NEED those people on your side to go against the big bad establishment you dont see yourself as being a part of. Of course, if someone gave you a million dollars and some high-up connections all that would change. But while it doesn't, your witch hunting of authority on false pretenses is purely self interested.

Period.

[Jailblazers7]

We're there riots for duke lacrosse? No, Al and Jessie don't matter. I didn't see people taking to the street in NY for Duke lacrosse. So idk why you are comparing the two.

And I lean Democrat...you really wanna argue that I'm scared to go after a rich white guy or whit cop? This is one time where stereotypes work against you.

[97 bulls]

Let me ask you a question, how come Al Sharpton never shows his face when thousands of blacks die at the hands of other blacks in senseless crimes across America?

Why is it that he only decides to show his face when it is a white person responsible for the death of a black person?

I thought he was supposed to be impartial and be a uniter as a spokesperson for the Black community?


Get back to me on that, son.
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[Akrazotile]

We're there riots for duke lacrosse? No, Al and Jessie don't matter. I didn't see people taking to the street in NY for Duke lacrosse. So idk why you are comparing the two.



Al and Jessie are exemplary of the way all those Fergunson rioters and NY protesters think. They spoke out in the Duke Lacrosse case without having the facts because they WANTED a white guy to be guilty. Just like kevinnyc and igotgame and oh the horror WANTED michael brown to be murdered in cold blood, so they could see the white guy get his. You are for some reason trying your damnest to give these people a plausible 'out' when it's simply not merited, and the question is 'why?' You even mentioned bankers and the like in another thread when I mentioned crime. Why is any wall street scandal so much more important to you to speak out against than chicago gang violence? It's because of the skin color and financial status of the people involved. It's sad that's what motivates you and that those are the lines your principles are divided along.


Back to Duke Lacrosse - an actual black 'professor of negro studies' at Duke, Houston Baker, called the white kids (and he specifically referred to their race) rapists and thugs, this was all based on the false accusation, well before the trial took place. When the players were declared innocent by the state attorney general, this same "negro-studies" professor still decided to refer to the players as farm animals, simply because he continued to harbor resentment toward them for being white, even after the facts came out and cleared them. This guy is actually still employed amazingly, currently by Vanderbilt. His entire academic career is based on spewing bile about white people. And that's ok with you I guess, because he's black and you can't be mad at him ever for anything. He's not accountable because he's a minoirty right?

That's what the anger in the michael brown thing is all about, and is also a factor in the garner situation. Not a thorough measuring of the facts and circumstances, but a resentment of the establishment. Black people resenting white people, period, and pvssy white people trying to be cool and doing it too. If you're REALLY upset about the physical harm done by one person to another in these situations, then where is your OUTRAGE over ray rice's sentence? over epic gang violence in chicago? where is it???



And I lean Democrat...you really wanna argue that I'm scared to go after a rich white guy or whit cop? This is one time where stereotypes work against you.

My point was people like you are scared to go after anyone BUT them. When was the last time you criticized someone who was black for ANYTHING? Probably never, meanwhile you've probably criticized white people for the exact same things you remain silent about when committed by anyone other than a straight white christian male. The fact is that you probably don't see yourself as being very high in the traditional white heirarchy, so you try to instead carve out some kind of leadership/hero role amongst the rest. That's really what most liberals are doing. Just trying to say 'well, i'm not too important over here, so i'll go where i can seem to matter more, where my voice will carry more, where i'll be welcomed as an important contributor in the fight against blah blah blah'. That's really ALL most liberals are in it for. Because when you break things down with them on a logical level issue by issue... you see theyre actually like the quantum bit - they make absolutely no sense and have no fundamental rhyme or reason backing up their slogans.

[dude77]

No it's not.

What about Duke Lacrosse? A completely made up story with a made-up black victim and made-up white perpetrators.

Al spoke out. Jessie spoke out. New Black Panthers held a protest. Jessie Jackson set up a fund to pay for the fraudulent accusers tuition, and even once it began to come out she was probably lying he said it IT DID NOT MATTER IF SHE FABRICATED THE STORY - THEY WOULD PAY HER TUITION.


This shit has NOTHING TO DO WITH JUSTICE IN THE LEGAL SYSTEM. It has nothing to do with police. Just like the riots have nothing to do with a solution. Ferguson, Garner, Dukethese things have nothing to do with justice, but rather black people taking any opportunity they can to skewer a white person. If they cared about violence, they'd care about black murder rates, about ray rice, about all these countless stories. THEY ONLY CARE WHEN THE PERPETRATOR IS WHITE BECAUSE THEY WANT TO SEE A WHITE GUY PUNISHED, REGARDLESS OF GUILT.


Look at how much more blame ROGER GOODELL is getting in the media than Ray Rice, the guy who actually KNOCKED OUT janaynay. Scared little cowards like you only feel comfortable targeting the big rich white guy, or the white cop, or any white guy with authority, and it's NOT about stopping violence, it's NOT about stopping crime, it's about taking someone down higher than you. That's all you care about, that's all they care about. Nobody goes after poor criminals because you're not jealous or resentful of poor criminals, you don't presume them to be arrogant and look down on you. You do presume those things of any member of the white 'establishment' i.e. the wealthy, republicans, police officers, the church. It's ok when YOU get to be the arbitrary decider, it's ok how much money YOU make, of course YOU can make an unPC joke but it's not ok if someone else does. This whole thing has nothing to do with the way a human was treated, it has everything to do with the usual suspect liberals targeting any person higher than them in the establishment out of primal human resentment. Goodell, the police, I'm sure George Bush is being blamed for this somewhere, doesn't matter. You will never blame a black person, a poor person, a muslim, a woman, even if they're at fault because you're afraid. You NEED those people on your side to go against the big bad establishment you dont see yourself as being a part of. Of course, if someone gave you a million dollars and some high-up connections all that would change. But while it doesn't, your witch hunting of authority on false pretenses is purely self interested.

Period.

hit it out of the ballpark :oldlol: I see shit all over these posters' faces ..

inb4 'akra you're dumb, stupid .. you don't know what you're talking about yada yada' anything to deflect from the actual truth

[dude77]

the one constant you see in these type of 'popular' stories full of 'outrage' .. are black 'victim' .. 'white perpetrator' .. the minute they find out the perpetrator was not white/or was black, the story is dead and they don't mention race again .. doesn't even matter what the race of the victim is at that point

[Akrazotile]

the one constant you see in these type of 'popular' stories full of 'outrage' .. are black 'victim' .. 'white perpetrator' .. the minute they find out the perpetrator was not white/or was black, the story is dead and they don't mention race again .. doesn't even matter what the race of the victim is at that point

LOL seriously. It doens't even matter that there WAS a victim at that point.

"hm, no chance for me to get up on a soapbox? ok. well let me just step around this dead body here and go get some coffee from starbucks"

[IamRAMBO24]

Al and Jessie are exemplary of the way all those Fergunson rioters and NY protesters think. They spoke out in the Duke Lacrosse case without having the facts because they WANTED a white guy to be guilty. Just like kevinnyc and igotgame and oh the horror WANTED michael brown to be murdered in cold blood, so they could see the white guy get his. You are for some reason trying your damnest to give these people a plausible 'out' when it's simply not merited, and the question is 'why?' You even mentioned bankers and the like in another thread when I mentioned crime. Why is any wall street scandal so much more important to you to speak out against than chicago gang violence? It's because of the skin color and financial status of the people involved. It's sad that's what motivates you and that those are the lines your principles are divided along.


Back to Duke Lacrosse - an actual black 'professor of negro studies' at Duke, Houston Baker, called the white kids (and he specifically referred to their race) rapists and thugs, this was all based on the false accusation, well before the trial took place. When the players were declared innocent by the state attorney general, this same "negro-studies" professor still decided to refer to the players as farm animals, simply because he continued to harbor resentment toward them for being white, even after the facts came out and cleared them. This guy is actually still employed amazingly, currently by Vanderbilt. His entire academic career is based on spewing bile about white people. And that's ok with you I guess, because he's black and you can't be mad at him ever for anything. He's not accountable because he's a minoirty right?

That's what the anger in the michael brown thing is all about, and is also a factor in the garner situation. Not a thorough measuring of the facts and circumstances, but a resentment of the establishment. Black people resenting white people, period, and pvssy white people trying to be cool and doing it too. If you're REALLY upset about the physical harm done by one person to another in these situations, then where is your OUTRAGE over ray rice's sentence? over epic gang violence in chicago? where is it???




My point was people like you are scared to go after anyone BUT them. When was the last time you criticized someone who was black for ANYTHING? Probably never, meanwhile you've probably criticized white people for the exact same things you remain silent about when committed by anyone other than a straight white christian male. The fact is that you probably don't see yourself as being very high in the traditional white heirarchy, so you try to instead carve out some kind of leadership/hero role amongst the rest. That's really what most liberals are doing. Just trying to say 'well, i'm not too important over here, so i'll go where i can seem to matter more, where my voice will carry more, where i'll be welcomed as an important contributor in the fight against blah blah blah'. That's really ALL most liberals are in it for. Because when you break things down with them on a logical level issue by issue... you see theyre actually like the quantum bit - they make absolutely no sense and have no fundamental rhyme or reason backing up their slogans.

I made a couple of threads about calling out black victimization. I think white victimization is just as bad. You're no better.

Again, you're grasping at straws. Cops victimizing minorities is a real issue. There are stats to back this up. It is not the same thing as the lacrosse issue. If it was a white person being victimized, I would say the same thing. It has nothing to do with race but rather a social injustice deeply imbedded in our legal system.

[Akrazotile]

I made a couple of threads about calling out black victimization. I think white victimization is just as bad. You're no better.

Again, you're grasping at straws. Cops victimizing minorities is a real issue. There are stats to back this up. It is not the same thing as the lacrosse issue. If it was a white person being victimized, I would say the same thing. It has nothing to do with race but rather a social injustice deeply imbedded in our legal system.


Yes but not in these recent cases. These cases objectively had nothing to do with race, yet race is what is motivating the protests because these people never protest ANY kind of crime except white on black. Duke Lacrosse, Travonz Martin, Eric Garner, Teddy Bear Brown, that's it.

Why did the Kelly Thomas story not blow up on a national level? Because he was white, so AL AND JESSIE DIDNT SHOW UP. Those two and their legions of followers (key word: followers) in the black community only become "outraged about terrible injustice" in its most rare occurences, i.e. white perp, black victim. Black on white, black on black, white on white? THEY DONT CARE. And the white liberal followers (key word: followers) take that same exact cue because i guess its cool and edgy or something to always cry 'racism!'.

So who are the racists really?

[Akrazotile]

I made a couple of threads about calling out black victimization. .


Also nobody cares what you made a thread about because you're a brain dead retard using an internet gimmick.

[IamRAMBO24]

Yes but not in these recent cases. These cases objectively had nothing to do with race, yet race is what is motivating the protests because these people never protest ANY kind of crime except white on black. Duke Lacrosse, Travonz Martin, Eric Garner, Teddy Bear Brown, that's it.

Why did the Kelly Thomas story not blow up on a national level? Because he was white, so AL AND JESSIE DIDNT SHOW UP. Those two and their legions of followers (key word: followers) in the black community only become "outraged about terrible injustice" in its most rare occurences, i.e. white perp, black victim. And the white liberal followers (key word: followers) take that same excat cue because i guess its cool and edgy or something.

So who are the racists really?

Cops have been victimizing blacks for decades now. The tension is growing; we're just seeing the outcome of a long conflict that has been ongoing.

White americans are taking the wrath for something that has nothing to do with them.

[oarabbus]

Yes but not in these recent cases. These cases objectively had nothing to do with race, yet race is what is motivating the protests because these people never protest ANY kind of crime except white on black. Duke Lacrosse, Travonz Martin, Eric Garner, Teddy Bear Brown, that's it.

Why did the Kelly Thomas story not blow up on a national level? Because he was white, so AL AND JESSIE DIDNT SHOW UP. Those two and their legions of followers (key word: followers) in the black community only become "outraged about terrible injustice" in its most rare occurences, i.e. white perp, black victim. Black on white, black on black, white on white? THEY DONT CARE. And the white liberal followers (key word: followers) take that same exact cue because i guess its cool and edgy or something to always cry 'racism!'.

So who are the racists really?


The cops racially profiling minorities are. Also Al Sharpton.

But at least he's not choking people to death.

[IamRAMBO24]

The cops racially profiling minorities are.

:applause:

[IamRAMBO24]

Also nobody cares what you made a thread about because you're a brain dead retard using an internet gimmick.

You're an idiot for race baiting and acting like a child with this white victimization you are pulling while at the same time criticizing black victimization.

[Akrazotile]

You're an idiot for race baiting and acting like a child with this white victimization you are pulling while at the same time criticizing black victimization.


From which part of my post did you get anything about white victimization? I'm stating a fact that white resentment motivates a ton of the people who always defend a minority even when he bears more responsibility for something than anyone else.

Nowhere did I say whites are a victim of anything. But even among whites, resentment of their own place within the culture leads a lot of them to 'white knight' as it were in ludicrous ways against imagined injustices. On the other hand someone like Charles Barkley who made it as a basketball player, made it as a tv personality, doesn't have an axe to grind against society, even tho he's black, even tho he grew up poor, doesn't automatically take the "omg injusticeeee!!!!' route.


It's a thing, I'm telling you. When mob think takes hold of large groups of minorities and white people who are confused about their place/identity they tend to take the "hey we'll take any opportunity to blame the establishment" item off the menu when they can. It's a natural reflex. EVEN when the facts don't warrant it. And that's the whole point. The facts and realities don't matter to them because they're motivated not by a problem with american violence, but a need to rally and riot against any group they perceive as more priveleged on the totem pole.

People have been doing it to jews for centuries. A lot of this protest stuff on a subconscious level is motivated by self interest and resentment for people doing better. Like all these "99%" who are more worried about how they can move up in the american middle class than going and helping the real 99% in south america, africa, the middle east. Yeah, real altruists :rolleyes: Down with Mitt Romney :rolleyes:

[IamRAMBO24]

From which part of my post did you get anything about white victimization? I'm stating a fact that white resentment motivates a ton of the people who always defend a minority even when he bears more responsibility for something than anyone else.

Nowhere did I say whites are a victim of anything. But even among whites, resentment of their own place within the culture leads a lot of them to 'white knight' as it were in ludicrous ways against imagined injustices. On the other hand someone like Charles Barkley who made it as a basketball player, made it as a tv personality, doesn't have an axe to grind against society, even tho he's black, even tho he grew up poor, doesn't automatically take the "omg injusticeeee!!!!' route.


It's a thing, I'm telling you. When mob think takes hold of large groups of minorities and white people who are confused about their place/identity they tend to take the "hey we'll take any opportunity to blame the establishment" item off the menu when they can. It's a natural reflex. EVEN when the facts don't warrant it. And that's the whole point. The facts and realities don't matter to them because they're motivated not by a problem with american violence, but a need to rally and riot against any group they perceive as more priveleged on the totem pole.

People have been doing it to jews for centuries. A lot of this protest stuff on a subconscious level is motivated by self interest and resentment for people doing better. Like all these "99%" who are more worried about how they can move up in the american middle class than going and helping the real 99% in south america, africa, the middle east. Yeah, real altruists :rolleyes: Down with Mitt Romney :rolleyes:

You're race baiting just like the media. These protests aren't out there saying let's go after every white person on the street. What they are saying is that there is an unfair bias in law enforcement that is motivating officers to use stronger force and arrest blacks at a far greater rate than whites and they believe this should change.

Where this bias comes from, we do not know, but they are assuming it is based on race.

They're not completely inaccurate in this assessment. There are stats and research to back this up.

[Akrazotile]

You're race baiting just like the media.



No.






































































U.

[oarabbus]

People have been doing it to jews for centuries. A lot of this protest stuff on a subconscious level is motivated by self interest and resentment for people doing better. Like all these "99%" who are more worried about how they can move up in the american middle class than going and helping the real 99% in south america, africa, the middle east. Yeah, real altruists :rolleyes: Down with Mitt Romney :rolleyes:


Damn, how relevant and on point to the topic at hand.

Wait, didn't you make this topic about Ray Rice? :biggums:

[IamRAMBO24]

No.

How am I race baiting? I'm just being objective. These protests aren't out to get white people. They are voicing a social injustice they want to see change and it is targetted at law enforcement they feel are using deadly force that has lead to a number of deaths against black men.

You're the one who is twisting the agenda to make it a white vs black issue just like the media.

[oarabbus]

How am I race baiting? I'm just being objective. These protests aren't out to get white people. They are voicing a social injustice they want to see change and it is targetted at law enforcement they feel are using deadly force that has lead to a number of deaths against black men.

You're the one who is twisting the agenda to make it a white vs black issue just like the media.

I wouldn't bank on receiving a rational, clear headed answer to this rational, clear headed post.

NO U@!!!!!! THE MEDIA HATEZ WHITEZ! BLACKS NEED TO STOP RESISTING ARREST!

[Akrazotile]

Damn, how relevant and on point to the topic at hand.

Wait, didn't you make this topic about Ray Rice? :biggums:



Those are examples of the same sociological theme my post was about.


I assumed those dots would be easy to connect but I guess there are some special people in the audience here this evening.

[dude77]

I wonder how many of these countrywide protests would be going on if the cops involved in this had all been black .. I wonder just how much national media coverage it would've gotten in the first place .. same with the mikey brown case .. somethin' tells me .. 'not quite the same'

[IamRAMBO24]

I wonder how many of these countrywide protests would be going on if the cops involved in this had all been black .. I wonder just how much national media coverage it would've gotten in the first place

You are aware that a lot of people in these protests are also white, so I would assume the outcry would be the same.

The more rational minds see it as an injustice issue. There are only a few idiots race baiting falling hook, line, and sinker for the media's agenda (race baiting).

[dude77]

You are aware that a lot of people in these protests are also white, so I would assume the outcry would be the same.

The more rational minds see it as an injustice issue. There are only a few idiots race baiting falling hook, line, and sinker for the media's agenda (race baiting).


lol the very reason these guilt ridden whiteys and sjw are out there protesting is because of the race of the 'perpetrator' and the race of the victim .. that's the premise behind their outrage .. black cop killing a black person isn't gonna give them that hard on ..

I do agree though this was totally wrong .. the guy is struggling to breathe and they just continue doing wtf they were doing completely ignoring his well being .. no fks given .. that shouldn't go down like that .. well I don't have a problem with that if it's a violent fugitive or someone who deserves it but this guy doesn't look like he deserved that ..

but I guess once they peg you the 'enemy' or 'criminal under arrest', you're basically fkd and you have to hope you don't have some type of attack while being arrested like what happened with this guy because you're dead if it happens .. although in this case it wasn't a side effect, it was direct from the chokehold .. so even worse

[IamRAMBO24]

lol the very reason these guilt ridden whiteys are out there protesting is because of the race of the 'perpetrator' and the race of the victim .. that's the premise behind their outrage .. black cop killing a black person isn't gonna give them that hard on

You do understand there are data and research behind the injustice correct? They are protesting against something that is real.

The media has perpetuated it as a race war. You're an idiot for falling for it. These protestors aren't going after white people. They want the deadly force to stop which they believe is being used against black men because of their race.

[Nanners]

lol the very reason these guilt ridden whiteys and sjw are out there protesting is because of the race of the 'perpetrator' and the race of the victim .. that's the premise behind their outrage .. black cop killing a black person isn't gonna give them that hard on

i disagree. no doubt the fact that this was white on black has raised its profile, but i think if it had been white on white there would still be a lot of outrage.

to me this whole incident is not about race at all, its about a violent and millitarized police force that is not accountable to anybody.

[IamRAMBO24]

i disagree. no doubt the fact that this was white on black has raised its profile, but i think if it had been white on white there would still be a lot of outrage.

to me this whole incident is not about race at all, its about a violent and millitarized police force that is not accountable to anybody.

Agreed.

It is not a white vs black issue. Any injustice towards a race can be an injustice towards any race since it is a failure in the system that is militarizing the police with no accountability for their actions.

[dude77]

You do understand there are data and research behind the injustice correct? They are protesting against something that is real.

The media has perpetuated it as a race war. You're an idiot for falling for it. These protestors aren't going after white people. They want the deadly force to stop which they believe is being used against black men because of their race.

:sigh: you're the one falling for whatever it is they're putting out there .. the police fk with all kinds of people .. not just blacks .. they don't give a fk who you are .. this is just another agenda driven story for the 'black cause'

[dude77]

i disagree. no doubt the fact that this was white on black has raised its profile, but i think if it had been white on white there would still be a lot of outrage.

to me this whole incident is not about race at all, its about a violent and millitarized police force that is not accountable to anybody.

oh you gotta be kidding me with this shit lol ..

show me all those protests around the country and all that cnn coverage when kelly thomas was literally beaten to death while he was screaming for his dad .. and his killers were cleared

[Nanners]

oh you gotta be kidding me with this shit lol ..

show me all those protests around the country and all that cnn coverage when kelly thomas was literally beaten to death while he was screaming for his dad .. and his killers were cleared

hey moron, maybe you should read the entire sentence instead of responding to half of it out of context


no doubt the fact that this was white on black has raised its profile

let me repeat that in case you didnt get it - NO DOUBT THE FACT THAT THIS WAS WHITE ON BLACK HAS RAISED ITS PROFILE.


and lets not pretend that there wasnt any outrage about the kelly thomas incident (https://www.google.com/search?q=kelly+thomas+protest&espv=2&biw=1920&bih=1099&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=I3WBVIyXL4OZjAL5ioGQCg&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAw#imgdii=_). yeah the kelly thomas protests were not anywhere near the scale of the recent ones, but if another kelly thomas happened next week, you bet your ass people would protest.

[IamRAMBO24]

:sigh: you're the one falling for whatever it is they're putting out there .. the police fk with all kinds of people .. not just blacks .. they don't give a fk who you are .. this is just another agenda driven story for the 'black cause'

No sh*t sherlock. It is common sense there is more social outrage for blacks since they are at the receiving end of the injustice.

[IamRAMBO24]

and lets not pretend that there wasnt any outrage about the kelly thomas incident (https://www.google.com/search?q=kelly+thomas+protest&espv=2&biw=1920&bih=1099&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=I3WBVIyXL4OZjAL5ioGQCg&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAw#imgdii=_). yeah the kelly thomas protests were not anywhere near the scale of the recent ones, but if another kelly thomas happened next week, you bet your ass people would protest.

:applause:

Nice way of shutting him up.

[dude77]

hey moron, maybe you should read the entire sentence instead of responding to half of it out of context



let me repeat that in case you didnt get it - NO DOUBT THE FACT THAT THIS WAS WHITE ON BLACK HAS RAISED ITS PROFILE.


and lets not pretend that there wasnt any outrage about the kelly thomas incident (https://www.google.com/search?q=kelly+thomas+protest&espv=2&biw=1920&bih=1099&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=I3WBVIyXL4OZjAL5ioGQCg&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAw#imgdii=_). yeah the kelly thomas protests were not anywhere near the scale of the recent ones, but if another kelly thomas happened next week, you bet your ass people would protest.

your statement was clear .. no there wouldn't be 'a lot of outrage' .. either you're trolling or you're a retard ..

some small protests and barely if any mention on cnn or anywhere .. maybe as a side story .. and that case is 10000 worse than mike brown getting gunned down .. I watch cnn(sadly) and I don't recall any significant coverage at all about that guy or the cops or their trial or anything .. compared to nationwide disruption of major roads .. president and attorney general talking about it .. and around the clock cnn coverage

[dude77]

No sh*t sherlock. It is common sense there is more social outrage for blacks since they are at the receiving end of the injustice.

yes blacks are at the receiving end of everything .. they're the butt of the joke in society

[Nanners]

your statement was clear .. no there wouldn't be the same outrage .. at all .. either you're trolling or you're a retard ..


apparently not. learn to read idiot.

[Nanners]

stfu you stupid piece of shit ... tired of you fggts and your dishonesty

lol

tbh i am shocked that you even said the cops were in the wrong in this eric garner case. i have seen you spewing your racist bullshit around here so often I thought for sure you would be on the cops side.

[IamRAMBO24]

stfu you stupid piece of shit ... tired of you fggts and your dishonesty

This is why I hate discussing anything on here. He just basically owned you and you have to act all childish about it. If someone is correct, man up and give them kudos. There's really no need to act like children. Some of the people you happen to disagree with could end up being the best teachers you have in your life.

[dude77]

apparently not. learn to read idiot.


stfu ..

right back at ya ..


your statement was clear .. no there wouldn't be 'a lot of outrage' .. either you're trolling or you're a retard


tired of you fggts and your disingenuity with these cases

[Nanners]

tired of you fggts and your disingenuity with these cases

:oldlol:

now you edited your post to try to hide your terrible reading comprehension.

[dude77]

This is why I hate discussing anything on here. He just basically owned you and you have to act all childish about it. If someone is correct, man up and give them kudos. There's really no need to act like children. Some of the people you happen to disagree with could end up being the best teachers you have in your life.

get the fk outta here .. he stated there would be a lot of outrage .. he's completely off base with that .. both of you are full of shit saying this isn't about race .. wtf are you on ?

[dude77]

:oldlol:

now you edited your post to try to hide your terrible reading comprehension.

no retard .. I used your stupid comment about 'a lot of outrage' .. posted it right there for you to read .. yet you're talking about reading comprehension :hammerhead:

[IamRAMBO24]

stfu ..

right back at ya ..




tired of you fggts and your disingenuity with these cases

Don't let the media get to you. They are trying to perpetuate this myth of a race war when these protestors are really after the legal system. They're not out there to get white people nor do they blame them for the actions of the police officers. They're just asking for fair treatment, which is a rational thing to ask.

[dude77]

lol

tbh i am shocked that you even said the cops were in the wrong in this eric garner case. i have seen you spewing your racist bullshit around here so often I thought for sure you would be on the cops side.

talking facts = racist

not defending a black person = racist

it's really a joke discussing anything to do with race with any of you .. brain dead retarded liberals

[dude77]

Don't let the media get to you. They are trying to perpetuate this myth of a race war when these protestors are really after the legal system. They're not out there to get white people nor do they blame them for the actions of the police officers. They're just asking for fair treatment, which is a rational thing to ask.

I don't disagree that the cops need to be reined in to a certain degree .. but you're still being dishonest in saying this isn't about race .. but I guess, having a video of the incident was more fuel for the outrage as well

[IamRAMBO24]

I don't disagree that the cops need to be reined in to a certain degree .. but you're still being dishonest in saying this isn't about race .. but I guess, having a video of the incident was more fuel for the outrage as well

Are you even watching these protests or listening to the speeches? It's clearly directed at the criminal justice system.

The media wants you to think blacks are blaming whites. They do this to get more viewers; they feed off of conflicts and race wars. In turn, by just going off what the media says and not listening to the facts, data, and research, you assume this is all about race.

There is a real problem in the system. Brushing it off as a race thing ignores the underlying issue.

[dunksby]

I don't agree with how the Ferguson protesters are going about it but that's beside the point. They are protesting racial profiling not domestic violence.

[Dresta]

The cops racially profiling minorities are. Also Al Sharpton.

But at least he's not choking people to death.
I think one thing that people should at least try to agree on is that Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are charlatans who certainly don't want racial tensions to end, and have a vested interest in stirring them up. I'm really tired of seeing these dumbasses on tv, as they promote a negative stereotype of black people and yet still pretend to be saviours!

It's sad that such clowns are seen as being representatives of the black community, simply because they're called Reverend (and, as you know, black leaders are always preachers for some reason!). Likewise the civil rights leaders of the 60s like Wilkins and Farmer have been generally ignored historically, while MLK has been insanely over-emphasised, resulting in the misconception that all black leaders must for some reason by preachers, and the media generally abides by this idiotic narrative.

edit: also agree that the US criminal justice system is needlessly brutal and tyrannical, and ruins a lot of lives, across all racial groups. Does Cali still have that incredible 3-strike policy?

[RidonKs]

whole thread is a blatant strawman

and another rendition of a starface classic

"OHH YOUR WORRIED ABOUT THAT??? WELL HERES SOMETHING ELSE! WHY DONT YOU WORRY ABOUT THIS?? MUAHAHAHA"


Why is any wall street scandal so much more important to you to speak out against than chicago gang violence? It's because of the skin color and financial status of the people involved. It's sad that's what motivates you and that those are the lines your principles are divided along.


Not a thorough measuring of the facts and circumstances, but a resentment of the establishment. Black people resenting white people, period, and pvssy white people trying to be cool and doing it too.


My point was people like you are scared to go after anyone BUT them. When was the last time you criticized someone who was black for ANYTHING? Probably never, meanwhile you've probably criticized white people for the exact same things you remain silent about when committed by anyone other than a straight white christian male.

you're pointing out hypocrisies that are a fact of everyday life.

to ask "why arent you protesting this" is to assume people protest about everything they feel strongly about. i know i don't do that. and i believe protest is a good way to affect change.

you only have so much time and energy. you fight a) for what you feel strongest about and b) in the areas you believe you can make the biggest difference.

all movements are hypocritical in where they focus their energies for reasons of plain common sense. you can't focus on everything or you won't be focused on anything.



but among the issues one could "speak out against" or actually protest if they so decide, yes greedy wall street bankers is a good one. i would think someone of your bent would regard any critical gesture of those cronies as not only justified but laudable.

the chicago gang violence is also an issue that requires much more attention. how could leaders of the black community possibly ignore it? well good on jesse jackson then (http://thegrio.com/2013/02/04/rev-jesse-jackson-protestors-call-on-obama-to-address-chicago-gun-violence/). and al sharpton too. (http://www.chicagotalks.org/2013/11/rev-al-sharpton-challenges-gun-violence/) this is not unusual for them i should add. and chicago is a far cry from the only city either of them have visited to talk about inner city crime. hell sharpton launched a summit LAST YEAR to talk about chicago.

so just the bare bone facts of your case are bunk. i don't really believe you have ever or perhaps even will ever pay attention to what either of these guys have to say. i'm not entirely sure why you even felt obliged to mention them at all.

these guys aren't personal heroes of mine or anything... i disagree with them about a lot, not least of all their faith. i also sorta stick up my nose at the whoring and the spectacle they put on for the spotlight. especially sharpton. he's just got a giant ego. jackson is better. i actually heard him speak at a conference a few years ago and was impressed by what he had to say. very approachable afterwards too.

you shouldn't be able to help but have some respect for the energy these guys put towards the things they care about. even if you disagree with some of their rhetorical or spin devices; which everybody in the public eye is already guilty of so who really cares.



if what you're looking for is jesse jackson and cornel west to give equal time and energy to complaining about shitty black people as they do complaining about shitty white people; as much time complaining about the bloods, the crips, the objectification of women on BET, terrible tyler perry sitcoms and some abusive football player as they spend time complaining about the drug war, stop and frisk, media stereotypes, and yes, white cops shooting black kids...

you aren't going to get it.

but what you also appear to be targeting them for is not prioritizing properly. they ignore a lot of extremely important issues. they sensationalize a lot of complex issues. they overhype a lot of issues that don't matter so much.

newsflash dude : so do you

[STATUTORY]

that's not a race issue, why would "blacks", the monolithic group you have deemed them to be, be protesting?