Anthony Davis went nuts tonight....

[EveryManALion]

30 pts(14 of 19 shooting) and 15 rbs against the team with the best record in the NBA. :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: Dude is a ****in' monster.

[Fudge]

And his team lost by 27.

That's when you know your team is absolute shit.

[andremiller07]

How much did the Pelicans win by?

[EveryManALion]

And his team lost by 27.

That's when you know your team is absolute shit.

He is still crazy good.

[CavaliersFTW]

How much did the Pelicans win by?
-27

[Warfan]

He did nothing in the 2nd half after a really good 1st half. He's obviously still a beast though and only 21.

[Bobcats2013]

Kevin Love 2.0

[EveryManALion]

Kevin Love 2.0

Except AD plays defense.

[Bobcats2013]

Except AD plays defense.

Turns water into wine that guy. He can do everything but win games.

[oarabbus]

And his team lost by 27.

That's when you know your team is absolute shit.

Empty stats doe

nah Davis is amazing but it's pretty funny how Love and others get called empty stat guys when Davis doesn't

[imdaman99]

I like AD but the hype is too much with this guy. Its like he is the basketball version of Andrew Luck where everyone loves him and predicts him to be an all time great at such an early stage in his career. Let him play for a couple of years before we anoint him as the next and best.

[MannyO]

I'll be honest I didn't see the game (just highlights) but I'm not so hype about AD's game. Yeah his stats are great and all but I watch his games sometimes and most of what I'm seeing is transition points, putbacks, quick cuts to the basket for easy layup/dunk, etc.. I just want to see him have a couple of moves he can go to.

[oh the horror]

I like AD but the hype is too much with this guy. Its like he is the basketball version of Andrew Luck where everyone loves him and predicts him to be an all time great at such an early stage in his career. Let him play for a couple of years before we anoint him as the next and best.



He's pretty good for a 21 year old. I mean the dude isn't even the best version of himself yet.


Unfortunately I'm curious how much longer he rots away on a sub par pelicans team.

[No_Look604]

Here's a real question for y'all...I haven't watched any Anthony Davis mind you...

How does he match up against a young KG?!

I was reminiscing the other day about the ballers I grew up with...maaaan KG was FLUID!

[No_Look604]

Kevin Love 2.0

So a prime Chris Webber would smash on both of them?

[hawksdogsbraves]

30/15/2blocks on 14/19 shooting and they got blown out.

This game is just a prime example on how badly the Pelicans have ****ed up on putting a decent team around him and why he will leave at the first opportunity.

[Bless Mathews]

I'll be honest I didn't see the game (just highlights) but I'm not so hype about AD's game. Yeah his stats are great and all but I watch his games sometimes and most of what I'm seeing is transition points, putbacks, quick cuts to the basket for easy layup/dunk, etc.. I just want to see him have a couple of moves he can go to.


Smh. Smh.

:facepalm

You watch highlights. You must not watched a game.

His jab step pull up from 10-15 is getting solid. Jump hook also.

Jab step j's aren't good for the highlight shows.

:facepalm

[RoseCity07]

Not even that great. Aldridge has had couple 30/20 games. Think he had a 30/25 against Dwight. Aldridge 46/18 in the playoffs.

brb call me when he does something like that. Oh, and these are all Blazer wins. Not getting their asses kicked.

[Bless Mathews]

Not even that great. Aldridge has had couple 30/20 games. Think he had a 30/25 against Dwight. Aldridge 46/18 in the playoffs.

brb call me when he does something like that. Oh, and these are all Blazer wins. Not getting their asses kicked.

Come on bruh.

Ad on the blazers???!!!!!?????!!???

Comeon......

[Shih508]

Not even that great. Aldridge has had couple 30/20 games. Think he had a 30/25 against Dwight. Aldridge 46/18 in the playoffs.

brb call me when he does something like that. Oh, and these are all Blazer wins. Not getting their asses kicked.

On def end, Davis' offday might be Aldridge's career night :facepalm

[RoseCity07]

On def end, Davis' offday might be Aldridge's career night :facepalm

Aldridge is a really good defender actually. Davis is better but not by some quantum leap. Aldridge has a knack for coming up with clutch blocks. He doesn't get aggressive until crunch time. Aldridge won defensive player of the year in college. I don't know how this myth got started that Aldridge isn't good on defense. There is a reason the Blazers win. He plays both ends.

Not trashing Davis. I'd love to have him on the Blazers playing next to Aldridge. I don't think this is a special game though. Cousins has better games.

[ThatCoolKid]

I'll be honest I didn't see the game (just highlights) but I'm not so hype about AD's game. Yeah his stats are great and all but I watch his games sometimes and most of what I'm seeing is transition points, putbacks, quick cuts to the basket for easy layup/dunk, etc.. I just want to see him have a couple of moves he can go to.

He's an elite midrange shooter.

0.432 from 16 ft to the free throw line.
For comparison LMA was at .435 last season.

You're right that he's assisted on the majority of his shots (.701), but that midrange shot is a shot teams will let him shoot all day. He's good enough at facing up and going by 4s that he'll get that midrange shot in crunchtime. He hit a game winner this season from midrange.

[pastis]

well i dont watch no games, but at least on the paper this team looks good.
but the west is so stacked, ad very young... enough reasons

[imdaman99]

He's pretty good for a 21 year old. I mean the dude isn't even the best version of himself yet.


Unfortunately I'm curious how much longer he rots away on a sub par pelicans team.
No doubt that he's really good. He is on his way, but he is no Duncan. You could run an offense around Duncan. You can't run an offense around AD, he is not that kind of player. His teammates might not complement his game, but there is other talent on the team. Jrue and Tyreke are good players. Asik is a winning kind of player. Players have won with less talent. I will give him time because it is only his 3rd year. I was saying similar things about Kyrie, and how it was his time to get his team to the playoffs last year and he didn't do it in a weak conference. AD is a great talent and he is playing in an impossible Western Conference, but everyone is already passing him over Durant as the next best player. I don't agree with it.

[ImKobe]

Jrue & Tyreke combined for 9/30 shooting with 11 TOs

Ryan anderson 2-9 with 0-5 from 3

AD was a -8 despite playing 38 minutes while the team lost by 27

[notatop29pg]

Don't bother posting any kind of statement in the thread if you haven't watched the guy play.

He's a game changer in every way.

His teammates ignored him for a good 5-6 mins in the 3rd and 4th tonight only for him to score on his own every single time they did pass him the ball.

He doesn't have moves like Duncan (yet) but he's 21... His mid range is right alongside LMA already.

Like everyone, he has some weaknesses like his inability to back defenders down. But seriously.. If your scoring 25 per game WITHOUT fancy go to moves... Jesus.. just wait until he does have them.

Would only take Durant over him right now.

[Cocaine80s]

Imagine if Durant goes to New Orleans :biggums:

Two of the longest dudes in the league on the same team

Could possibly be greater than Shaq-Kobe

[MiseryCityTexas]

Pelicans got all that talent, yet are still garbage.

[sportjames23]

He did nothing in the 2nd half after a really good 1st half. He's obviously still a beast though and only 21.


I'll take him on my Bulls. Give us Davis and the Bulls will own the league.

[fefe]

Pelicans got all that talent, yet are still garbage.
All that talent?

Well, Jrue is not even a top20 PG...
Eric Gordon will never be the same, he has lost all his athleticism.
Tyreke Evans can not shoot, and still hasn't got a real NBA position.
Ryan Anderson is a stretch 4, who can shoot, but isn't very athletic, and doesn't do anything else.
Asik is big, and he can defend and rebound, but he is slow, and is a liability on offense.

And they basically don't have any more NBA level talent on the roster beside these guys...

That team is absolutely flawed enough to make it close to impossible for Davis to take them to the playoffs...

[Smook A.]

Kevin Love 2.0
You're totally off. His situation is wayy more like KG's back when he was with the Wolves

[CoastalRyan]

All the people who have pointed out that his stat line looks nice but the bottom line doesn't hopefully will agree or see the opposite in that when it comes to debating the talent level of guys like Kawhi. Who's skill set is constantly targeted as a product of a system...which somehow is viewed negatively.

How would some feel about AD's season had he sacrificed some of those gaudy stat lines for wins. I think oddly some would question whether he's reached the next level the same as they do now.

The misnomer is that it shouldn't take a winning record and a fancy stat line to have arrived. So AD is producing and as far as I'm concerned its on the coach to figure out how to translate that production into team wins.

[chocolatethunder]

You're totally off. His situation is wayy more like KG's back when he was with the Wolves
I'm not sure what you're implying but AD is playing with way more talent than Love ever did.

Holiday has been an All Star and Reke was ROY.

[Bandito]

In who?

[fragokota]

I'm not sure what you're implying but AD is playing with way more talent than Love ever did.

Holiday has been an All Star and Reke was ROY.

Lol, it's not like he has an xtremelely rich offensive arsenal or he is a great defender. The guy is an athletic freak with a huge wingspan that allows him to have impressive numbers of steals and blocks. Love is definitely better offensively, better passer, better rebounder while also being unathletic af, far greater shooter, better post player. AD has a long way to go especially on offense to be considered the best in this league. BUT he certainly has the tools to get there, that's for sure.

[chocolatethunder]

Lol, it's not like he has an xtremelely rich offensive arsenal or he is a great defender. The guy is an athletic freak with a huge wingspan that allows him to have impressive numbers of steals and blocks. Love is definitely better offensively, better passer, better rebounder while also being unathletic af, far greater shooter, better post player. AD has a long way to go especially on offense to be considered the best in this league. BUT he certainly has the tools to get there, that's for sure.

I'm not disagreeing with anything you said. I made that initial comment because everyone says that Love has empty stats yea somehow KG "played his heart out" and Davis is surrounded with way more talent than certainly Love ever was and at least as much as KG was. I think Davis will be MVP soon it's just the hypocrisy here is maddening.

[dannywpt]

His ability to put back missed shots is 2nd to none. Gets like 2-5 field goals a game purely off that ability. He was spectacular to watch last night.

[imdaman99]

All that talent?

Well, Jrue is not even a top20 PG...
Eric Gordon will never be the same, he has lost all his athleticism.
Tyreke Evans can not shoot, and still hasn't got a real NBA position.
Ryan Anderson is a stretch 4, who can shoot, but isn't very athletic, and doesn't do anything else.
Asik is big, and he can defend and rebound, but he is slow, and is a liability on offense.

And they basically don't have any more NBA level talent on the roster beside these guys...

That team is absolutely flawed enough to make it close to impossible for Davis to take them to the playoffs...
OK, I see he will get the Lebron treatment, where it's everyone's fault but his because he puts up godly stats. I understand the media is in love with him, and I see why. I like him too, but if everyone is gonna make threads everyday about how crappy his teammates are and he's wasting his talent playing with scrubs, than I don't know what to say :oldlol:

If anything, it's because he is playing in a tough west. But please stop making excuses for him on the daily.

[hawksdogsbraves]

All the people who have pointed out that his stat line looks nice but the bottom line doesn't hopefully will agree or see the opposite in that when it comes to debating the talent level of guys like Kawhi. Who's skill set is constantly targeted as a product of a system...which somehow is viewed negatively.

How would some feel about AD's season had he sacrificed some of those gaudy stat lines for wins. I think oddly some would question whether he's reached the next level the same as they do now.

The misnomer is that it shouldn't take a winning record and a fancy stat line to have arrived. So AD is producing and as far as I'm concerned its on the coach to figure out how to translate that production into team wins.

What are you even talking about? He shot 14/19 and had only 2 turnovers. It was an insanely efficient performance and he threw in a bunch of blocks and steals to top it off.

This isn't a Kobe situation where the team might benefit if he takes less shots - if you're putting up 30 points on 60%+ you shouldn't change a damned thing.

He's been efficient all season, every different rating you want to look at from PER to WS has him at the top of the league. He's playing super efficient ball and if anything the Pelicans need to find a way to get him MORE involved in the offense. Their crappy guards dribble around and run iso's half their possesions.

He's not compared to Kawhi because he's twice the player Leonard is. They might as well not be playing the same game.

You're right about the coach sucking though.

[CoastalRyan]

What are you even talking about? He shot 14/19 and had only 2 turnovers. It was an insanely efficient performance and he threw in a bunch of blocks and steals to top it off.

This isn't a Kobe situation where the team might benefit if he takes less shots - if you're putting up 30 points on 60%+ you shouldn't change a damned thing.

He's been efficient all season, every different rating you want to look at from PER to WS has him at the top of the league. He's playing super efficient ball and if anything the Pelicans need to find a way to get him MORE involved in the offense. Their crappy guards dribble around and run iso's half their possesions.

He's not compared to Kawhi because he's twice the player Leonard is. They might as well not be playing the same game.

You're right about the coach sucking though.Well you've completely misunderstood me. Read my last line again. Basically I think he's "arrived" and "producing" regardless of wins. While some here are arguing against his production by citing a losing record.

However I feel its on the coach to figure out how to turn his talent and production into wins.

The earlier point was that if he was more like Leonard in the fact that he has wins behind subpar stat lines some here would debate his skill level...basically the opposite argument one would make when someone has great stats but a losing record.

To summarize I'm saying its a no-win situation with AD. He's damned if he does(gaudy stats) and damned if he doesn't(better record, less glamorous stats). I think that hold true with some players in the past like say Monte Ellis but in this case it has nothing to with AD needing to elevate his game...its the coaching staff and his supporting cast. I believe its clear that he's taken his game to another level this year.

[hawksdogsbraves]

Well you've completely misunderstood me. Read my last line again. Basically I think he's "arrived" and "producing" regardless of wins. While some here are arguing against his production by citing a losing record.

However I feel its on the coach to figure out how to turn his talent and production into wins.

The earlier point was that if he was more like Leonard in the fact that he has wins behind subpar stat lines some here would debate his skill level...basically the opposite argument one would make when someone has great stats but a losing record.

To summarize I'm saying its a no-win situation with AD. He's damned if he does(gaudy stats) and damned if he doesn't(better record, less glamorous stats). I think that hold true with some players in the past like say Monte Ellis but in this case it has nothing to with AD needing to elevate his game...its the coaching staff and his supporting cast. I believe its clear that he's taken his game to another level this year.

Oh my bad, I think I just got confused by your original post...

[Brujesino]

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[upside24]

Anthony Davis is a monster. I knew he would be good but he is joining a class of NBA elite at such a young age.

He has had numerous games where his statline would be a career game for most. I remember reading about him in SLAM when he was in high school and wondering if he was really as good as he was hyped to be and if he could be a high impact player on an elite level.

I think this is just the beginning of a decade of brilliance barring injuries and it's going to be fun watching him at his prime.

[FireDavidKahn]

And his team lost by 27.

That's when you know your team is absolute shit.
Pelicans supporting cast really isn't all that bad

[CoastalRyan]

Pelicans supporting cast really isn't all that badThere's talent and certainly good individual players but I don't see any standout players that have been a significant part of a good team or carry a legitimate reputation for being a great team player or teammate.

I had higher hopes for Monty. There's enough talent there that they should be much better than they are.

[Blue&Orange]

the only persons that keep saying his supporting cast are the ones that didn't watched a single pelicans game this year. Most are crappy, other can look awesome one game and the next look like pure trash.

[ILLsmak]

He's pretty good for a 21 year old. I mean the dude isn't even the best version of himself yet.


Unfortunately I'm curious how much longer he rots away on a sub par pelicans team.

I imagine that shit has a real psychological effect on players. I was thinking about it in reference to a team like Philly, when you feel like you are going out there to lose...

The Pelicans aren't nearly as bad as some other teams, though. It sucks that some players just get into winning situations (like Kobe and Duncan) and everyone lauds them for loyalty as well as success.

Not saying AD is on that level, but it's something to think about. I think the Pelicans could make the playoffs. They've got some v strange pieces, though.

-Smak

[LAZERUSS]

Gotta love ISH.

A 30-15 game on 14-19 shooting = "empty stats."

If that is the case, then there have truly many players who put up "empty stats" in their careers.

Jerry West with 29 ppg on a 36-45 team.

Oscar with a 31-10-10 season on a 33-46 team.

Wade with a 25 ppg season and with a 10-41 W-L record.

Kareem with a 28-17 season on a 40-42 team.

KG with a 22-13-4 season on a 33-46 team.

MJ with a 37 ppg season on a 40-42 team.

You can generally go right down the list. Aside from Russell, Bird, Duncan, and Magic...all whom inherited stacked rosters, virtually every other GOAT has played for a losing team. Some in spectacular seasons.

How about Moses in '81? A 28-15 season on a 40-42 team. Furthermore, he wiped the floor with Kareem and his 54-28 Lakers in the first round of the playoffs.

Wilt in 64-65? He single-handedly carried a 40-40 team (and what had been a bottom-feeder the year before he arrived) thru the first round of the playoffs in a romp over Oscar's 48-32 Royals, then to a game seven, one point loss against Russell's 62-18 Celtics, in a series in which he hung a monster 30-31 .555 series.

The reality is, this is a TEAM game. How do explain a KG going from a 33-46 team to anchoring a 66-16 team? Or KAJ going from a 59-23 team to a 38-44 team?

MJ? In his 85-86 playoffs, he averaged 44 ppg, including a 63 point OT game. How did his team do? They were SWEPT in the first round. Of course, it was his fault, and not the fact that his team was facing the 67-15 Celtics and there FIVE HOFers in that first round.

And did MJ then get so much better that he could win SIX titles in his last eight seasons? Or was it more like the fact that he had STACKED rosters in that eight year run? How good was his supporting cast in that period? Without Jordan, and with basically Pete Myers and Toni Kukoc replacing him, the Bulls went 55-27, and lost a close and controversial seven game series against a 56-26 Knicks team, that would lose a close seven game series against the 58-24 Rockets in the Finals (and they outscored them, BTW.)

And what happened the very next season, when a refreshed MJ came back to play the last 17 games of the regular season, and going 13-4 (.765) in them? They took a beating at the hands of the 57-25 (.695) Magic in the second round. How come?

How do explain Chamberlain leading the league in scoring, rebounding, and setting a then FG% record, for a 31-49 team, and then a couple of years later, again leading the NBA in scoring, rebounding, and setting a then FG% record, for a team with the best record in the league?


Russell truly has the greatest "winning" resume in NBA history, but he was handed a 39-33 team that had an MVP and the best shooter of his era. Oh, and he was the SECOND player taken by Boston in that draft, too, behind HOFer Tommy Heinsohn. How good was that Celtic team in his rookie season? Russell missed 24 games that year, and in the game's he played, they went 28-20 (.583), and in the games he missed, they went 16-8 (.667.)

Then, they added HOFer Sam Jones the very next season. How good was that team? Boston and St. Louis split the first two games of the Finals. In game three, Russell chipped his ankle in the 3rd quarter. The Hawks would go on to win that game, 111-108, but without Russell, the Celtics outscored the Hawks by five points in the 4th quarter. And without Russell in game four, the Celts still cruised to an easy win. Russell didn't play in game five, either, but the Celtics narrowly lost that game, 102-100. Russell gave it a go in game six, but could only play in the first half. The Hawks eked out a 110-109 series clinching win, but Boston outscored them in the second half without Russell.

Furthermore, Boston would add players every year. Havlicke joined them in 62-63, and by that season they were fielding a team of NINE HOFers. Hell, their seventh best player was Clyde Lovellette, who had averaged 21 ppg the year before with St. Louis. Later on they would add players like HOFer Bailey Howell, too.


Magic joined a stacked, but under-achieving Laker team that lacked leadership, and immediately led them to a world title. He would play with players like KAJ and Worthy for the rest of his career.

Bird played with loaded rosters his entire career, too. As great a "winner" as he was, he played on teams that lost with HCA seven times in his NBA career. And to be honest, he played well below average in several of them.

As dominant as Shaq was, how do explain his being SWEPT SIX times in his NBA playoff career? Or Hakeem getting blown-out EIGHT times in the First Round?

Or a KAJ winning FIVE MVPS in the 70's, and only winning ONE ring (and only going to TWO Finals, losing twice in the first round, losing with HCA in two, getting blown-out two years in a row by a Sonics team with FAR less talent, and missing the playoffs altogether in two more years)?

If Davis' teams are getting routed in games in which he is unstoppable, what else can he do? How about surrounding him with a decent supporting cast?

[DamnMixes]

This guy is crazy!

Too bad the team is kind of mediocre, they ruined it by giving eric gordon that contract, should have let him go to suns. That boy is done.

[jrong]

Imagine Anthony Davis playing with Chris Paul.

Just stop and let your mind consider that for a moment.

[IGOTGAME]

Imagine Anthony Davis playing with Chris Paul.

Just stop and let your mind consider that for a moment.
He would be getting the same amount of buckets and similar quality looks.

[Bless Mathews]

He would be getting the same amount of buckets and similar quality looks.


:facepalm

Dumbest poast of the week nominee.

[elementally morale]

well i dont watch no games

That's interesting. Why don't you?