Is Carmelo Anthony on his prime?

[Mr. Jabbar]

:roll:

:facepalm

worst superstar ever, literally zero intangibles

[YouGotServed]

24 Million/year

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[Magic 32]

:roll:

:facepalm

worst superstar ever, literally zero intangibles

If he has to do nothing but score, he can be a near-excellent player....somethimes.

Like the first half of the 2009 WCF.

[imdaman99]

He doesn't make anyone better, not with his Melo-ball. I am sick of his end of the game trying to be a hero attitude. Motherfcker, pass the fcking ball to the open guy. You've already proven you are no hero, he is shooting bran-esque 2-27 on game winning or game tying shots. He is no superstar. A star, sure.

[STATUTORY]

that ni99a is actually releasing a documentary talking about how he is only in nyc for the money

:roll:

[dunksby]

He is not even the man of the house, LA LA has him on a leash.

[PsychoBe]

he doesn't drive to the hoop, at all. he just shoots and smiles and says "i did all i could." no you didn't. doing all you can means being aggressive and driving to the hoop for easy opportunities to get your offense going and to make the defense respect you to open the game up.

[ALBballer]

Not a big fan of Melo and I miss the days when the Knicks had David Lee, Gallinari and Chandler. Instead the Knicks, in typical NY fashion, went all out for STAT, the supposive superstar, who has not played any better than David Lee and gave up Gallinari, Chandler, Mozgov and Felton (who was good at the time) for Billups and Melo in a deal where the Nuggets had no leverage. The trade was typical of NY of going all out for the "superstar."

Knicks will continue to suck with Melo on the team making 20 million+ and no other superstar wants to play with him.

[STATUTORY]

Not a big fan of Melo and I miss the days when the Knicks had David Lee, Gallinari and Chandler. Instead the Knicks, in typical NY fashion, went all out for STAT, the supposive superstar, who has not played any better than David Lee and gave up Gallinari, Chandler, Mozgov and Felton (who was good at the time) for Billups and Melo in a deal where the Nuggets had no leverage. The trade was typical of NY of going all out for the "superstar."

Knicks will continue to suck with Melo on the team making 20 million+ and no other superstar wants to play with him.

I became done with the knicks when they made that trade for Melo

I knew right then and there the franchise was hopeless as long as dolan was in charge

[ALBballer]

I became done with the knicks when they made that trade for Melo

I knew right then and there the franchise was hopeless as long as dolan was in charge

Yep donnie Walsh did a great job rebuilding the team and Dolan ****ed it all up by giving up valuable assets for Melo when the Nuggets had no leverage.

[Mr. Jabbar]

throughout his career he has pretty much lost every single playoff series his team wasn't favored to win and many where his team was favored :applause:

[MellowYellow]

throughout his career he has pretty much lost every single playoff series his team wasn't favored to win and many where his team was favored :applause:
Beat Dallas in 09, not favored. Melo has never lost a series he was favored in, yet people want to judge him for not beating teams that were better than his:biggums: . The closest might be the Pacer series, but that was pretty even steven noone was really favored.

[Fudge]

Melo f*cking sucks.

[SugarHill]

Visibily exited his prime right before our eyes

[Milbuck]

Who would have thought Pau Gasol at literally over 100 million dollars cheaper would be a 20/11/2 blocks monster for the Bulls, while 124 million dollar man Carmelo would be having his worst statistical season since his 2nd year, while leading his team to the worst start in franchise history?

In hindsight, I'm glad the Melo to Chicago thing didn't work out. That front office has rebounded from that situation beautifully, built a damn good squad from what they had to work with.

[BigBoss]

Melo picked up where Tracy Mcgrady left off.

I will say one thing though Melo has a bad agent :lol. He should be playing on a contender right now. If I were his agent I would have sold him on Chicago.

[MellowYellow]

Melo picked up where Tracy Mcgrady left off.

I will say one thing though Melo has a bad agent :lol. He should be playing on a contender right now. If I were his agent I would have sold him on Chicago.

T-mac at 30- 8 3 3 on 39% shooting
Melo at 30- 23 6 3 on 45% shooting

:biggums:

[bizil]

Who would have thought Pau Gasol at literally over 100 million dollars cheaper would be a 20/11/2 blocks monster for the Bulls, while 124 million dollar man Carmelo would be having his worst statistical season since his 2nd year, while leading his team to the worst start in franchise history?

In hindsight, I'm glad the Melo to Chicago thing didn't work out. That front office has rebounded from that situation beautifully, built a damn good squad from what they had to work with.

I agree. I'm not surprised by Pau's numbers BUT I am surprised at how Melo's is playing. I think Melo is still strong in his prime, but I think the Triangle has everybody in NY confused. The Bulls got WAY MORE BANG for their buck with Pau who is ALSO strong in his prime at 34 years old.

I think Pau's game is likely to age well like Duncan's. So the Bulls made an EPIC investment for a HOF big man who was willing to play for less in order to win some more rings. Pau going to the Bulls may have given him a ticket to be a top 10 GOAT PF if they can win a ring or two.

[j3lademaster]

Melo picked up where Tracy Mcgrady left off.

I will say one thing though Melo has a bad agent :lol. He should be playing on a contender right now. If I were his agent I would have sold him on Chicago.No you wouldn't have. The 30 mil(?) he'd have left on the table is a ton of your commission. An agent isn't responsible for where his client ends up on a casual fan's top 10 list, it's how much $$$ he made him throughout his career. This was Melo's last major payday and any smart agent wasn't going to let those checks slip.

[Dengness9]

Who would have thought Pau Gasol at literally over 100 million dollars cheaper would be a 20/11/2 blocks monster for the Bulls, while 124 million dollar man Carmelo would be having his worst statistical season since his 2nd year, while leading his team to the worst start in franchise history?

In hindsight, I'm glad the Melo to Chicago thing didn't work out. That front office has rebounded from that situation beautifully, built a damn good squad from what they had to work with.


Spread reputation around more before giving it to MILBUCK :applause:

[Dengness9]

Take the two year max in Chicago and your job is easier and you have a chance at the chip, at minimum a trip to the conference finals.

[Mr. Jabbar]

Visibily exited his prime right before our eyes

:roll:

[Ramza]

Kobe-esque :bowdown:

[Nash]

Not a big fan of Melo and I miss the days when the Knicks had David Lee, Gallinari and Chandler. Instead the Knicks, in typical NY fashion, went all out for STAT, the supposive superstar, who has not played any better than David Lee and gave up Gallinari, Chandler, Mozgov and Felton (who was good at the time) for Billups and Melo in a deal where the Nuggets had no leverage. The trade was typical of NY of going all out for the "superstar."

Knicks will continue to suck with Melo on the team making 20 million+ and no other superstar wants to play with him.
wonder how knicks would look like if they kept all of those pieces and instead added a few quality free agents instead.

[Nash]

Who would have thought Pau Gasol at literally over 100 million dollars cheaper would be a 20/11/2 blocks monster for the Bulls, while 124 million dollar man Carmelo would be having his worst statistical season since his 2nd year, while leading his team to the worst start in franchise history?

In hindsight, I'm glad the Melo to Chicago thing didn't work out. That front office has rebounded from that situation beautifully, built a damn good squad from what they had to work with.
I do agree with that. Although, Melo's weaknesses would be erased with Chicago and vice versa.

Btw, are you a Bulls fan or Bucks?

[upside24]

he doesn't drive to the hoop, at all. he just shoots and smiles and says "i did all i could." no you didn't. doing all you can means being aggressive and driving to the hoop for easy opportunities to get your offense going and to make the defense respect you to open the game up.
Draw fouls get your points and your team in the bonus quicker.

Post up like a beast. We've seen him do work in the post and a lot of times when he misses he gets his own board and scores. His quickness and size make him a problem for teams in the post, not to mention he is skilled down there.

I don't mind the quick pullups inside the arc when he is feeling it, but he shouldn't make it a steady habit. Stop being lazy and settling for 3s and contested 2s.

He could be a great player but I don't think he wants it that bad.

[Milbuck]

I do agree with that. Although, Melo's weaknesses would be erased with Chicago and vice versa.

Btw, are you a Bulls fan or Bucks?
Yeah, but I also think Chicago's depth would've been compromised. I'm not entirely aware of how the cap situation would've played out with Melo there, but would they be able to sign Mirotic, Brooks, re-sign Kirk, etc with Melo taking the max they could offer? And I think the combination of Gasol, Mirotic, Brooks, Hinrich, etc is just as good if not better than the version of Melo we're seeing, the one that is (reportedly) dealing with back issues and just flat out not playing to his standards. I don't know if those issues just disappear in Chicago.

Bucks fan. Born near Chicago, lived there for a while. I wouldn't call myself a Bulls fan, but if I had to pick a 2nd team, it's them. I like to see them do well.

[Prometheus]

Visibily exited his prime right before our eyes

:lol

[Nash]

Yeah, but I also think Chicago's depth would've been compromised. I'm not entirely aware of how the cap situation would've played out with Melo there, but would they be able to sign Mirotic, Brooks, re-sign Kirk, etc with Melo taking the max they could offer? And I think the combination of Gasol, Mirotic, Brooks, Hinrich, etc is just as good if not better than the version of Melo we're seeing, the one that is (reportedly) dealing with back issues and just flat out not playing to his standards. I don't know if those issues just disappear in Chicago.

Bucks fan. Born near Chicago, lived there for a while. I wouldn't call myself a Bulls fan, but if I had to pick a 2nd team, it's them. I like to see them do well.
Cool. How is the rivalry between people from Milwaukee and Chicago? Is it friendly and do you guys support each other?

[CHi1PriDe]

Who would have thought Pau Gasol at literally over 100 million dollars cheaper would be a 20/11/2 blocks monster for the Bulls, while 124 million dollar man Carmelo would be having his worst statistical season since his 2nd year, while leading his team to the worst start in franchise history?

In hindsight, I'm glad the Melo to Chicago thing didn't work out. That front office has rebounded from that situation beautifully, built a damn good squad from what they had to work with.

QFT :cheers:

[STATUTORY]

Visibily exited his prime right before our eyes

:coleman:

this did not go unnoticed

[MellowYellow]

32 7 4 on 50% shooting tonight, hit a bunch of clutch shots too. Keep hating losers :cheers:

[SugarHill]

:coleman:

this did not go unnoticed
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[Shih508]

Melo is always just glorified Glenn Robinson. He's not someone who can carry a team

[tontoz]

Doesn't really matter if this is his prime or not. He plays for the Knicks. They are destined to suck no matter what he does.

[BigBoss]

No you wouldn't have. The 30 mil(?) he'd have left on the table is a ton of your commission. An agent isn't responsible for where his client ends up on a casual fan's top 10 list, it's how much $$$ he made him throughout his career. This was Melo's last major payday and any smart agent wasn't going to let those checks slip.

Chicago-->nike team jordan marketing-->championship--->more endorsements-->oppurtunities post-retirement as a brand

New york---->30 million---->no championship--->tnt job

[Smook A.]

Carmelo is a good player, but Knicks really screwed up by re-signing him to that monster $130 million dollar contract. He can score and rebound well but thats really it. Also, sometimes he actually tries on defense, but other times he really doesn't give a shit. Kinda like Harden's defense last season, except he tried 0.001% of the time that year. Honestly, if I were the Knicks I would have let Melo walk. Like I said, he's a good player and all but you won't win a championship if your team is paying him that fat ass contract. Because of that, Knicks couldn't sign anyone else and that’s why Carmelo has a bunch of scrubs surrounding him.

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In yesterday's game vs the Hornets, Carmelo had a nice night scoring-wise. He made buckets when the Knicks needed him most. Scored 15 of his 32 in 4th, and made a huge 3 pointer to put the Knicks up by 1 with less than a minute left. Melo's team just needed one more stop, but he didn't make the play he could have. Looking at these pictures, Melo just stared at Kemba as he drove to the lane to eventually make the game-winning bucket. Who knows... if Melo really got in front of Kemba as he drove, maybe he would've missed that layup. He could have at least TRIED to strip the ball or he could've even gotten his hands up to alter the shot. New York, your $130 million dollar man. "The hero that Gotham needed" :applause:

[oarabbus]

It's pretty unreal when you think back to how Carmelo was compared to LeBron back around '03-'05.

[MellowYellow]

Carmelo is a good player, but Knicks really screwed up by re-signing him to that monster $130 million dollar contract. He can score and rebound well but thats really it. Also, sometimes he actually tries on defense, but other times he really doesn't give a shit. Kinda like Harden's defense last season, except he tried 0.001% of the time that year. Honestly, if I were the Knicks I would have let Melo walk. Like I said, he's a good player and all but you won't win a championship if your team is paying him that fat ass contract. Because of that, Knicks couldn't sign anyone else and that’s why Carmelo has a bunch of scrubs surrounding him.

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In yesterday's game vs the Hornets, Carmelo had a nice night scoring-wise. He made buckets when the Knicks needed him most. Scored 15 of his 32 in 4th, and made a huge 3 pointer to put the Knicks up by 1 with less than a minute left. Melo's team just needed one more stop, but he didn't make the play he could have. Looking at these pictures, Melo just stared at Kemba as he drove to the lane to eventually make the game-winning bucket. Who knows... if Melo really got in front of Kemba as he drove, maybe he would've missed that layup. He could have at least TRIED to strip the ball or he could've even gotten his hands up to alter the shot. New York, your $130 million dollar man. "The hero that Gotham needed" :applause:

WOW, you're gonna blame Melo for that when Amare and Pablo both got blown by on that play and could have fouled him since they had a foul to give but failed to...:facepalm

Looking at the play in real time, there is really nothing he could have done on that play, Kemba went up with his left hand and that picture is deceiving.

But for that matter, why is 36 year old Pablo guarding Kemba???....... Why isn't Iman Shumpert in the game for defense and guarding Kemba??...... Why is Amare even in there??? Where is Dalembert??

So many times I wonder about Fish and his poor coaching/lineups, he is either the worst coach in history or purposely coaching like a nub because he got the word from Phil to tank.

[Smook A.]

WOW, you're gonna blame Melo for that when Amare and Pablo both got blown by on that play and could have fouled him since they had a foul to give but failed to...:facepalm

Looking at the play in real time, there is really nothing he could have done on that play, Kemba went up with his left hand and that picture is deceiving.

But for that matter, why is 36 year old Pablo guarding Kemba???....... Why isn't Iman Shumpert in the game for defense and guarding Kemba??...... Why is Amare even in there??? Where is Dalembert??
LOL im saying he could've atleast HELPED Amar'e out. He could've gotten in front of Kemba and put his hands up but didn't even do that... Don't even try to back up Carmelo there. Yes, Pablo and Amar'e did get blown out but Melo definitely could have done something.

@ bolded: Nope, you're wrong. He actually could have done something. As I mentioned, Melo could've have gotten in front of Kemba to draw a charge or he could have put his hands up to at least alter the shot.

[MellowYellow]

LOL im saying he could've atleast HELPED Amar'e out. He could've gotten in front of Kemba and put his hands up but didn't even do that... Don't even try to back up Carmelo there. Yes, Pablo and Amar'e did get blown out but Melo definitely could have done something.

@ bolded: Nope, you're wrong. He actually could have done something. As I mentioned, Melo could've have gotten in front of Kemba to draw a charge or he could have put his hands up to at least alter the shot.

Don't be silly man, I have league pass and I looked at the replay many times. Melo's man is on the other side of the court wide open, and to be honest, Tim is in a much better position to help Amare out on that play.

[Smook A.]

Don't be silly man, I have league pass and I looked at the replay many times. Melo's man is on the other side of the court wide open, and to be honest, Tim is in a much better position to help Amare out on that play.
Look how wide open Melo's man is. You already know Kemba wasn't looking to pass that ball because he had an easy opened lane. Im just saying Melo could've have at least tried to help out Amar'e there and who knows what would've happened if he did.

[MellowYellow]

Look how wide open Melo's man is. You already know Kemba wasn't looking to pass that ball because he had an easy opened lane. Im just saying Melo could've have at least tried to help out Amar'e there and who knows what would've happened if he did.

He was probably expecting Amare or Pablo to foul him, Melo can't see the future.... he doesn't know what Kemba is gonna do with the ball. Everything happened so fast.

[Magic731]

Look how wide open Melo's man is. You already know Kemba wasn't looking to pass that ball because he had an easy opened lane. Im just saying Melo could've have at least tried to help out Amar'e there and who knows what would've happened if he did.
It's really easy to nitpick these things from our arm chairs hours after the game.

[MellowYellow]

It's really easy to nitpick these things from our arm chairs hours after the game.

Seriously .6 seconds are elapsing in that picture, and this dude is acting like Melo had all day to get into position to defend right there.

[GimmeThat]

when you look at how that Denver team had gotten to the WCF.

Melo seems to be the type of player who you may be better off building with 8-12 mil type players, instead of another super star.



and I think "that" comes with his rebounding

[Smook A.]

Seriously .6 seconds are elapsing in that picture, and this dude is acting like Melo had all day to get into position to defend right there.
What? :oldlol:

Melo needed like 1 step to get in position. If he took that step and put his hands up, Kemba could've missed that layup.

[MellowYellow]

What? :oldlol:

Melo needed like 1 step to get in position. If he took that step and put his hands up, Kemba could've missed that layup.

Wrong, you don't know what you're talkin bout. He was in no position to take a charge at all.

[Smook A.]

Wrong, you don't know what you're talkin bout. He was in no position to take a charge at all.
:facepalm

Taking a charge wasn't his only option you brainless turd. How many times do I have repeat it? I told you like a hundred times that Carmelo could have either moved over and put his hands up to alter the shot or he could have tried stripping the ball. Instead, he didn't jack shit. Dude stopped and stared at Kemba like a deer when it looks at a car's headlights. And yes even with that little time, Melo could have made a move.

[oarabbus]

Wrong, you don't know what you're talkin bout. He was in no position to take a charge at all.

lol he could have contested the shot

[MellowYellow]

lol he could have contested the shot
from the other side of the rim? :facepalm

[MellowYellow]

:facepalm

Taking a charge wasn't his only option you brainless turd. How many times do I have repeat it? I told you like a hundred times that Carmelo could have either moved over and put his hands up to alter the shot or he could have tried stripping the ball. Instead, he didn't jack shit. Dude stopped and stared at Kemba like a deer when it looks at a car's headlights. And yes even with that little time, Melo could have made a move.

watch the replay again, you don't seem to know what was going on.

[MellowYellow]

:facepalm

Taking a charge wasn't his only option you brainless turd. How many times do I have repeat it? I told you like a hundred times that Carmelo could have either moved over and put his hands up to alter the shot or he could have tried stripping the ball. Instead, he didn't jack shit. Dude stopped and stared at Kemba like a deer when it looks at a car's headlights. And yes even with that little time, Melo could have made a move.

There was a whole slew of things that went wrong with that play starting with the personnel on the floor, and you want to blame Melo for not pulling off a miracle and somehow deflecting the shot or something? I don't see it at all, not without fouling.

[Smook A.]

from the other side of the rim? :facepalm
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Are you really telling me Melo couldn't make 1 big step to at least content the shot?


watch the replay again, you don't seem to know what was going on.
I watched it enough to know that Carmelo could've moved a little to his right to strip/contest Kemba's layup.

[MellowYellow]

http://i.imgur.com/U7ZLXRX.png

Are you really telling me Melo couldn't make 1 big step to at least content the shot?


I watched it enough to know that Carmelo could've moved a little to his right to strip/contest Kemba's layup.

nope he should have stayed right where he was and Amare should have forced Kemba to him, instead Matador D. Not Melo's fault bro.
Again the Knicks had a foul to give, why wasn't it used, you never answered that one.

[oarabbus]

nope he should have stayed right where he was and Amare should have forced Kemba to him, instead Matador D. Not Melo's fault bro.
Again the Knicks had a foul to give, why wasn't it used, you never answered that one.

Have you played basketball? And tried to win? Just seriously think about what you yourself would do in the gym in Melo's position. Game on the line, you're in the restricted area (meaning you are in the vicinity of the hoop from any direction, that's why it's the restricted area), your teammate sucks at defense, and you are the leader of your team.

[Smook A.]

nope he should have stayed right where he was and Amare should have forced Kemba to him, instead Matador D. Not Melo's fault bro.
Oh my god dude. You're making this way too difficult. Kemba was going to blow by Pablo and Amar'e either way. He had a completely straight path to the hoop. If Melo stayed in his place, then Kemba would still get the bucket and the Knicks would've still lost by 1. All im saying is that Melo chould've moved just a little to contest the layup... that's all im saying. Watching the reply, he really didn't do anything. Hell, he didnt even try to strip the ball.

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Look where they are. Melo had a lot of time to make a move

[andremiller07]

The Knicks should have had Dalembert and Acy in the game instead of Amare and whoever else. Dalembert is a no brainer since he can block shots and Acy is the best at switching/showing out on pick n rolls out of any of the bigs, that was a terrible line up with Amare (who get's lost on D more than any other player I have ever seen).

In all honesty Knicks didn't deserve to win that game anyway but yeah Melo should have done more in that situation.

[tontoz]

Oh my god dude. You're making this way too difficult. Kemba was going to blow by Pablo and Amar'e either way. He had a completely straight path to the hoop. If Melo stayed in his place, then Kemba would still get the bucket and the Knicks would've still lost by 1. All im saying is that Melo chould've moved just a little to contest the layup... that's all im saying. Watching the reply, he really didn't do anything. Hell, he didnt even try to strip the ball.

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Look where they are. Melo had a lot of time to make a move


:oldlol:

With so little time left you have to rotate to stop him from getting to the rim. That is just common sense.