90% of all championship teams had these 3 things

[Duderonomy]

A dominant big man
Solid defense
3 point shooters

When will teams learn this is how you win.

[BuffaloBill]

A dominant big man
Solid defense
3 point shooters

When will teams learn this is how you win.



Easier said than done.

[DamnMixes]

Not exactly a dominant big, but minimum a 6'11 big good enough for defense and post game. Tweeners don't win you championships.

Also most of the championship teams had mid range threat, A MUST thing even though shooting them long 2 pointers is not an efficient thing, but so the teams could have problems guarding your team. otherwise they would just defend the paint and 3pt area.

[russwest0]

With the additions of Adams and Morrow, OKC now has all 3 of those things.

[La Frescobaldi]

One of my very first posts on Ish was talking about those kinds of things.

EVERY championship team - 100% of them - has these three things.


Winning rings is like a 3 legged stool. You gotta have these 3 legs to win a championship:

* Talent
* System/Coaching
* Injuries

If any one of those legs breaks, the stool falls. You do not get to pass Go, you do not get to collect $200... you do not get a championship.

It makes no sense to say one leg is more important than the other, because if any leg breaks, that stool won't bear weight.

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You can see examples of this in any season. Probably every season.

2010 - Kendrick Perkins breaks his knee in the Finals, the Celtics lose.
Now it could be debated whether the Celtics were going to win that series, but did anyone think they were going to win without Perk?

2011 - the Heat have a monster so-called Big 3 lineup... but lose to Dallas's smoother system. Spoelstra, in my opinion, didn't have a system in place, and he wasn't a strong enough coach to keep the motivation level high enough to finish.

88-89 Bulls had a great lineup, but they didn't have Phil Jackson. System/coaching cost them against the Pistons. Doug Collins, in my opinion, couldn't control his team.... and in 90, PJ was there but it took a full year to get rampaging egos to run his system.

The '71 Lakers also had a monster, so-called Big 3 lineup, with Baylor, West, and Chamberlain.... But Baylor & West both missed the entire playoffs, drawing DNP - injury.... and lost to Kareem's Bucks.

90s Shaq-Penny Magic got destroyed by injuries.

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All three factors are out of the control of any individual player, no matter how great he is.

Using rings as a measurement of individual greatness is absurd.

[TemporaMutantur]

With the additions of Adams and Morrow, OKC now has all 3 of those things.

I wouldn't exactly call Adams a dominant big man, but he's certainly improving.

Perkins...you know where I'm going.

[G0ATbe]

33.3% of championship teams in the last 15 years had Kobe on them.

[Cocaine80s]

33.3% of championship teams in the last 15 years had Kobe on them.
60% of them he wasn't fmvp

[BigBoss]

60% of them he wasn't fmvp

60% of the time Lebron loses in the Finals


http://i.imgur.com/0UX3zQ6.png

" 2 for 5 strive for greatness"

[inclinerator]

100 percent of championship teams has done this

outscore their opponents in the playoffs more times than the other way around

[G0ATbe]

60% of the time Lebron loses in the Finals


http://i.imgur.com/0UX3zQ6.png

" 2 for 5 strive for greatness"
http://hornetsplanet.com/public/style_emoticons/default/kobeyuck.png

[Bandito]

60% of the time Lebron loses in the Finals


http://i.imgur.com/0UX3zQ6.png

" 2 for 5 strive for greatness"
This made me chuckle:oldlol:

[CelticBaller]

1 of those things alone is a hard af to find

[Kvnzhangyay]

A dominant big man
Solid defense
3 point shooters

When will teams learn this is how you win.

So basically the team has everything? :coleman:

3 point shooters + dominant big man = solid players in at least the 1,2,5 nowadays

and solid defense= decent team defense + everyone is good at man defense

[imnew09]

60% of the time Lebron loses in the Finals


http://i.imgur.com/0UX3zQ6.png

" 2 for 5 strive for greatness"


DAMM I wish I could rep you but my rep has as much power as Lebron in the final

[noob cake]

A dominant big man
Solid defense
3 point shooters

When will teams learn this is how you win.

Dwight ✓
2nd in Defensive Efficiency ✓
Leading league in 3 pointers chucked, crapping on second place ✓

:lol :lol :lol

[Marchesk]

A dominant big man
Solid defense
3 point shooters

When will teams learn this is how you win.

The Bulls won six titles without a dominant big. The Pistons won two titles right before them. The Heat won twice without one. And recent Duncan is good, but not the same as dominant, peak Duncan.

Dominant big at least means healthy Dwight Howard level, but guys like Shaq, Kareem and Wilt are what first come to mind. Bosh, Lambier, and Horace Grant don't come to mind. Rodman only in the rebounding sense.

You don't need a dominant big to win a title. If you have an MVP level superstar with the other two things, it can be done.

[Duderonomy]

Dwight ✓
2nd in Defensive Efficiency ✓
Leading league in 3 pointers chucked, crapping on second place ✓

:lol :lol :lol
Actually the Magic for a 2-3 period were a great example, that team wasn't anything special but had those 3 things and were knocking on the door of a championship.

I guess Rodman and Horace Grant don't count an impactful big. Bosh and last year's Duncan meh close enough.

[Lebronxrings]

2012-2013 heat didn't have those

[SouBeachTalents]

2012-2013 heat didn't have those

http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/articles/sports/sports_nut/2013/06/_2013_nba_finals_game_6_ray_allen_s_three_pointer_ revealed_everything_that/170833043.jpg.CROP.rectangle3-large.jpg

[gts]

A dominant big man
Solid defense
3 point shooters

When will teams learn this is how you win.
Defense yes,

dominant big man it helps but it can be worked around

3 pt shot 90% of all titles..that's pretty interesting considering 50% of the titles ever won were before the 3 point shot...:lol