Stone Temple Pilots

[BigBoss]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXhmwMdUKfA


:rockon:

[Im so nba'd out]

Yuck

[BigBoss]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlp9bPRRGgM

They don't make em like they used to :(

[Im so nba'd out]

I mean i dont really listen to rock but if i was to it would be something like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTxG81thoDw

[dilley]

poor mans creed

[BigBoss]

I mean i dont really listen to rock but if i was to it would be something like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTxG81thoDw

:roll:

This kid actually just posted some emo shit and said yuck to one of the most legendary rock and roll bands. Noob. **** outta here

[BigBoss]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdCEPhNBnrM

[BigBoss]

poor mans creed

Creed is garbage LOL. STP's debut album came out 5 years earlier. NOOB

[BigBoss]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCFOlQxW220

[DeuceWallaces]

poor mans creed

3/10 troll effort.

[ROCSteady]

I have a pretty gnar 90s playlist on Spotify.


These guys were OK. If u wanna point me to some great deep cuts I'd be willing see if they are worthy of my playlist

[DeuceWallaces]

Anything off the first 3 is good. Third album is my favorite front to back.

[BigBoss]

Anything off the first 3 is good. Third album is my favorite front to back.

Deuce knows whats up :cheers:

[BigBoss]

One of my favorite bands definitely. Played plush almost exclusively as my workout song over the summer. 'Murica.

Whats your opinion of Chester replacing Scott?

[ROCSteady]

Anything off the first 3 is good. Third album is my favorite front to back.

Tiny Music?

[Bless Mathews]

Stp aight.

They some good junkies.

[kentatm]

always really liked Big Bang Baby (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0gAxuvo5rc)

[Rake2204]

Tiny Music?I haven't really made a point of listening to them in probably 15 years but Tiny Music was probably my favorite as well, if that's the one for which he's referring. I wasn't sure if I'd catch flak for that or not - it seems like STP fans would probably hold Core and Purple in the highest regard.

Tiny Music came out right when I was going through middle school though, so it caught me at the right time. I remember the music video from "Big Bang Baby" pretty well. Something about that video's basic nature fascinated me at the time. Still kind of a weird watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0gAxuvo5rc. I guess it's a pretty standard 90's rock music video though, probably leading seamlessly into a Presidents of the United States of America song.

Sidenote, I actually didn't mind Velvet Revolver's first album either.

[Lakers Legend#32]

STP = Best Band of the 90's

[Relinquish]

STP is one of the few grunge bands I enjoy. Still, they are grunge, a style of rock that is mediocre at best.

[Relinquish]

STP = Best Band of the 90's

No, just no.

[Im so nba'd out]

:roll:

This kid actually just posted some emo shit and said yuck to one of the most legendary rock and roll bands. Noob. **** outta here
kid im not white all that rock shit sounds the same to me eat a d**k

[D-FENS]

poor mans creed

:biggums:

[dude77]

ah plush .. one of my favorites .. great workout/weightlifting track .. legit thread

[rufuspaul]

STP is one of the few grunge bands I enjoy. Still, they are grunge, a style of rock that is mediocre at best.


This. Grunge was the poor man's punk. There were a few bands that did it right (Nirvana) and a whole slew of wannabes. In the end it was a flash in the pan along with the Swing craze. The 90s were odd.

[JohnnySic]

STP was NOT a grunge band. :rolleyes:

[JohnnySic]

STP = Best Band of the 90's
Not even close.

[DeuceWallaces]

They're 90's alternative rock. Grunge is a silly term. Not even sure what that's supposed to mean beyond flannel, which they didn't wear.

[JohnnySic]

They're 90's alternative rock. Grunge is a silly term. Not even sure what that's supposed to mean beyond flannel, which they didn't wear.
IMO their music was a little too mainstream to be considered alternative.

[JtotheIzzo]

IMO their music was a little too mainstream to be considered alternative.

The music was made mainstream because it was what the people wanted at the time.

In retrospect, Nirvana has become overrated, because up until Pearl Jam started sucking (after their 3rd album Vitology) PJ was the better band and Vedder every bit the frontman Kurt was.

But history went on, Dave Grohl put out great music thus enhancing Nirvana's image and PJ started missing the mark.

Pound for pound the best band of the 90s was Smashing Pumpkins, but not being from Seattle they get a bit lost in the shuffle with all the retrospective documentaries and what not. Melancholy and the Infinite Sadness is as good a work of music as any ever created and at least equal to Pearl Jam's Ten and Nirvana's Nevermind (with Soundgarden's Badmotorfinger coming fourth, though the favorite of the rock kids).

The new millennium would not have been kind to Cobain, IMO he went out on top.

Stone Temple Pilots were originally seen as grunge wannabes and poseurs, and took a lot of shit for their music. Big Bang Baby was their first critically acclaimed hit (ecxecept ofr maybe Interstate Love Song), a lot of people hated Plush and that first album the same way people hate Creed.

Time has been kind though and those song have withstood the test. Ironically STP was voted best new band by readers and worst new band by critics in Rolling Stone magazine (back when the magazine meant something).

That tells you how they were at the time.

[JohnnySic]

The music was made mainstream because it was what the people wanted at the time.

In retrospect, Nirvana has become overrated, because up until Pearl Jam started sucking (after their 3rd album Vitology) PJ was the better band and Vedder every bit the frontman Kurt was.

But history went on, Dave Grohl put out great music thus enhancing Nirvana's image and PJ started missing the mark.

Pound for pound the best band of the 90s was Smashing Pumpkins, but not being from Seattle they get a bit lost in the shuffle with all the retrospective documentaries and what not. Melancholy and the Infinite Sadness is as good a work of music as any ever created and at least equal to Pearl Jam's Ten and Nirvana's Nevermind (with Soundgarden's Badmotorfinger coming fourth, though the favorite of the rock kids).

The new millennium would not have been kind to Cobain, IMO he went out on top.

Stone Temple Pilots were originally seen as grunge wannabes and poseurs, and took a lot of shit for their music. Big Bang Baby was their first critically acclaimed hit (ecxecept ofr maybe Interstate Love Song), a lot of people hated Plush and that first album the same way people hate Creed.

Time has been kind though and those song have withstood the test. Ironically STP was voted best new band by readers and worst new band by critics in Rolling Stone magazine (back when the magazine meant something).

That tells you how they were at the time.
Its arguable whether PJ was better than Nirvana. PJ's music was more "accessible", that's for sure (at least until No Code, which was too folky and weird).

You also forgot AIC's Dirt - that album is every bit as good as Nevermind, Ten, Badmotorfinger, Superunknown, and SP's stuff. Possibly better than all of them.

STP's music doesn't resonate the same way. It was good, but not on the level of these other bands. They were the forerunners of the sanitized, radio friendly "grunge" bands of the late 90's/early 2000's.

[Rake2204]

Speaking of the Smashing Pumpkins, you guys ever see this Billy Corgan commercial?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESMCx0KNVkw

A Brief History of Billy Corgan Losing His Damn Mind: http://noisey.vice.com/blog/a-brief-history-of-billy-corgan-losing-his-goddamn-mind

[nightprowler10]

My only exposure to STP has been at a concert a few years ago in Chicago. I thought they were pretty bland as a live band, and kept waiting for someone to trip over a CD player and the music to just stop.

According to my friends that was not one of their best efforts and they're usually much better than that. Didn't exactly spur me to go out and buy their records.

[JtotheIzzo]

Its arguable whether PJ was better than Nirvana. PJ's music was more "accessible", that's for sure (at least until No Code, which was too folky and weird).

You also forgot AIC's Dirt - that album is every bit as good as Nevermind, Ten, Badmotorfinger, Superunknown, and SP's stuff. Possibly better than all of them.

STP's music doesn't resonate the same way. It was good, but not on the level of these other bands. They were the forerunners of the sanitized, radio friendly "grunge" bands of the late 90's/early 2000's.


Not sure about the 'accessible' part. Ten was out for quite a while before 'Evenflow' became a hit, while 'Smells Like Teen Spirit' was on MTV every half hour. 'Jeremy' however spun out of control in rotation however.

[DeuceWallaces]

IMO their music was a little too mainstream to be considered alternative.

Well they were alternative rock. Played on alternative rock stations. They were the alternative to the 85-92 hair rock and your mainstream rock artists of the early mid 90s i.e. Van Halen, U2, Def Leppard, Black Crowes, Extreme, and every other band that was born out of the classic rock genre.

[DeuceWallaces]

Stone Temple Pilots were originally seen as grunge wannabes and poseurs, and took a lot of shit for their music. Big Bang Baby was their first critically acclaimed hit (ecxecept ofr maybe Interstate Love Song), a lot of people hated Plush and that first album the same way people hate Creed.

Time has been kind though and those song have withstood the test. Ironically STP was voted best new band by readers and worst new band by critics in Rolling Stone magazine (back when the magazine meant something).

That tells you how they were at the time.

No. They were not seen as wannabes. They were alternative hard rock. They did nothing to promote themselves as Seattle grunge and they got increasingly more experimental with each release.

Moreover Tiny wasn't nearly as critically acclaimed as it was a radio hit and it sold about 5 million fewer units than each of its predecessors. To top it off their greatest critical success came like 3-4 years earlier because they won a Grammy for Plush, which is pretty much the definition of critical acclaim.

[Smoke117]

You guys have no idea what you are talking about. No Code is easily better than Pearl Jams earlier albums. In general Pearl Jam are just students of their idols: Led Zeppelin, Jimi Hendrix, Neil Young etc. Their songwriting as far as their "rock" songs is mostly dull because we've heard it all before and with better songwriters. Now EDDIE...he's actually a great songwriter and a great lyricist, but his best songwriting is his singer/songwriter, folky, acoustic material. I've thought he should have left Pearl Jam years ago. He should have left after Riot Act which was their last interesting album and considering a lot of their "rock" material wasn't interesting anyway...this just makes it worse with these newer albums the last 10 years or so.

I bet the majority of you morons actually believe "grunge" is an actual genre of music...

[TheMan]

Purple is my fave STP album

[TheMan]

And while we're on the subject of 90s bands, my favorites were in the following order...

Rage Against The Machine
Tool
Soundgarden
Alice In Chains
Radiohead
Pearl Jam
Pantera
Smashing Pumpkins
Stone Temple Pilots






Nirvana

Not a huge fan of Nirvana, I like the Foo Fighters a lot more than Nirvana...

[JohnnySic]

:lol
You guys have no idea what you are talking about. No Code is easily better than Pearl Jams earlier albums. In general Pearl Jam are just students of their idols: Led Zeppelin, Jimi Hendrix, Neil Young etc. Their songwriting as far as their "rock" songs is mostly dull because we've heard it all before and with better songwriters. Now EDDIE...he's actually a great songwriter and a great lyricist, but his best songwriting is his singer/songwriter, folky, acoustic material. I've thought he should have left Pearl Jam years ago. He should have left after Riot Act which was their last interesting album and considering a lot of their "rock" material wasn't interesting anyway...this just makes it worse with these newer albums the last 10 years or so.

I bet the majority of you morons actually believe "grunge" is an actual genre of music...
You must be a hard core PJ fan. Only the hard core fans like No Code. I really like PJ and even I cant really get into it.

That's the album that killed PJ's mainstream popularity, and sent its casual fans running away screaming into the arms of Matchbox 20 and Hootie and the Blowfish. :lol

And in no way is it better than "Ten".

[JohnnySic]

Well they were alternative rock. Played on alternative rock stations. They were the alternative to the 85-92 hair rock and your mainstream rock artists of the early mid 90s i.e. Van Halen, U2, Def Leppard, Black Crowes, Extreme, and every other band that was born out of the classic rock genre.
Fair enough.

[JohnnySic]

Not sure about the 'accessible' part. Ten was out for quite a while before 'Evenflow' became a hit, while 'Smells Like Teen Spirit' was on MTV every half hour. 'Jeremy' however spun out of control in rotation however.
By "accessible" I mean easier for casual radio listeners to get into. Its easier to rock out to most of PJ's stuff than Nirvana's.

[Thorpesaurous]

Anything off the first 3 is good. Third album is my favorite front to back.


You are correct sir!

[DeuceWallaces]

You guys have no idea what you are talking about. No Code is easily better than Pearl Jams earlier albums. In general Pearl Jam are just students of their idols: Led Zeppelin, Jimi Hendrix, Neil Young etc. Their songwriting as far as their "rock" songs is mostly dull because we've heard it all before and with better songwriters. Now EDDIE...he's actually a great songwriter and a great lyricist, but his best songwriting is his singer/songwriter, folky, acoustic material. I've thought he should have left Pearl Jam years ago. He should have left after Riot Act which was their last interesting album and considering a lot of their "rock" material wasn't interesting anyway...this just makes it worse with these newer albums the last 10 years or so.

I bet the majority of you morons actually believe "grunge" is an actual genre of music...

Lol. Hey retard. Gossard, Ament, and McCready wrote the first two albums. Vedder doesn't write the music and hardly wrote the early lyrics; if at all. :lol

No Code is the first in a string of shit albums as they purposefully tried to not write hits.

[Smoke117]

Lol. Hey retard. Gossard, Ament, and McCready wrote the first two albums. Vedder doesn't write the music and hardly wrote the early lyrics; if at all. :lol

No Code is the first in a string of shit albums as they purposefully tried to not write hits.

The songs are much more interesting on No Code than Ten or Vs. Also...what the **** are you talking about? Vedder wrote all the lyrics on Ten and Vs. He also wrote the music for Porch on Ten and Elderly Woman and Rearview Mirror on VS. Don't open your stupid mouth if you have no idea what you are talking about. Clown.

[DeuceWallaces]

He'd have writing credits if he contributed in a major way to the lyrics; which he doesn't.

[andgar923]

Semantics aside....most of what people are posting is true even if they are contradictory.

Bottom line STP is a good to great rock band.

They may not be the hardest/heaviest, the most innovative/experimental, groundbreaking/pioneers but their music was still f*ckin good.

[Relinquish]

STP was NOT a grunge band. :rolleyes:

They were definitely grunge, especially early on. A band didn't have to come from Seattle to be grunge.