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Papaya Petee
12-08-2014, 11:20 PM
That is all. Kids unstoppable.

navy
12-08-2014, 11:21 PM
CP3 and Curry are clearly better than him...

Maybe Westbrook. But he's played like 4-5 games.

WallIn
12-08-2014, 11:21 PM
No he isn't. He's top 3 behind CP3 and Curry.

tontoz
12-08-2014, 11:22 PM
No. In 2 games against Boston he had 15 turnovers. And his scoring efficiency is weak.

He needs to cut down his TOs and improve his shot selection to become elite.

masonanddixon
12-08-2014, 11:23 PM
Top 10. Not even close to top 5.

Fudge
12-08-2014, 11:23 PM
Lmao, chill out there, poindexter.

ROCSteady
12-08-2014, 11:23 PM
Tried to tell y'all he is top 3 with his all around game.


Fck what u heard

masonanddixon
12-08-2014, 11:24 PM
CP3 and Curry are clearly better than him...

Maybe Westbrook. But he's played like 4-5 games.

Dragic
Parker
Lillard

and a few others possibly

rknine15
12-08-2014, 11:24 PM
He's the best defender at the PG position

WallIn
12-08-2014, 11:25 PM
Top 10. Not even close to top 5.

So like 8th, 9th? Yeah sure.

HomieWeMajor
12-08-2014, 11:25 PM
All those Drew League highlight videos with smooth sounding beats over them have done him well. :applause:
That reverse layup on Brandon Bass doe

Relinquish
12-08-2014, 11:25 PM
He's the best defender at the PG position

This. Either way, that was one of the most insane clutch scoring moments I've EVER seen.

Legends66NBA7
12-08-2014, 11:26 PM
Not even the best PG in the East.

Relinquish
12-08-2014, 11:26 PM
Not even the best PG in the East.

Incorrect.

masonanddixon
12-08-2014, 11:27 PM
So like 8th, 9th? Yeah sure.

Yeah that sounds about right. 8th or 9th best.

In PG driven league, though, so nothing to look down upon.

ROCSteady
12-08-2014, 11:49 PM
Lol a lot of u posters' mentality are just modernized it seems of the position.

Wall does amazing things in all facets. Get used to it. Gortat said it, he's the best PG in the league at this moment past couple weeks. Not saying he's the best in the big picture but right now he's playing like the best.

Watch this Celtics game. Sure they lost to them the other day and he had turnovers but it's not his fault Boston was outboarding in the clutch and the dude got a win almost by himself in 2OT while down by 5-7 at times.

26,7,17 That's well-rounded.

yobore
12-08-2014, 11:51 PM
Not saying he's the best in the big picture but right now he's playing like the best.

He's playing like the best but this year a couple pgs are playing like better than the best

RoundMoundOfReb
12-08-2014, 11:53 PM
No. That would be LeBron James.

ROCSteady
12-08-2014, 11:54 PM
He's playing like the best but this year a couple pgs are playing like better than the best

How many of their teams are almost 10 games over .500 doe?

Papaya Petee
12-09-2014, 12:00 AM
Look at how good the Wizards are, look at his insane assist numbers, and all around #s. Give it till the end of the year you will all agree.

Lillard, Parker, Dragic, not the best PG in the east?:roll: some of you are comical.

SugarHill
12-09-2014, 12:05 AM
Look at how good the Wizards are, look at his insane assist numbers, and all around #s. Give it till the end of the year you will all agree.

Lillard, Parker, Dragic, not the best PG in the east?:roll: some of you are comical.

Lowry > Wall :confusedshrug:

Relinquish
12-09-2014, 12:08 AM
Lowry > Wall :confusedshrug:

Nope. Come again.

Wall averages 18, 5, 10.4, 2.2 on 43.2% from the field and leads all guards in blocks with 0.7 per game. All this coupled with the best defense from the PG position in the game. Lowry averages 20.3, 5, 7.2, 1.2, and 0.2 blocks on 44.1%, with inferior defense. Sorry bud. 3.2 apg > 2.3 ppg, that's at LEAST 6.4 ppg created vs. 2.3.

Cali Syndicate
12-09-2014, 12:09 AM
I wouldn't agree but there is less than a handful of PGs I'd take over wall at this point.

SugarHill
12-09-2014, 12:16 AM
Nope. Come again.

Wall averages 18, 5, 10.4, 2.2 on 43.2% from the field and leads all guards in blocks with 0.7 per game. All this coupled with the best defense from the PG position in the game. Lowry averages 20.3, 5, 7.2, 1.2, and 0.2 blocks on 44.1%, with inferior defense. Sorry bud.

Lowry still scores more points on better efficiency and Wall averages those assists with 4 turnovers a game.

Relinquish
12-09-2014, 12:18 AM
Lowry still scores more points on better efficiency and Wall averages those assists with 4 turnovers a game.

No he doesn't. Lowry shoots 1% higher from the field AND from 3. That and turnovers is all he beats Wall in.

Relinquish
12-09-2014, 12:18 AM
Lowry still scores more points on better efficiency and Wall averages those assists with 4 turnovers a game.

No he doesn't. Lowry shoots 1% higher from the field AND from 3. That and turnovers is all he beats Wall in. Wall has him beat in everything else, sorry bud. Lowry is a great player, but also remember that once Derozan comes back lowry's scoring will go back down.

Young X
12-09-2014, 12:18 AM
Nope. Come again.

Wall averages 18, 5, 10.4, 2.2 on 43.2% from the field and leads all guards in blocks with 0.7 per game. All this coupled with the best defense from the PG position in the game. Lowry averages 20.3, 5, 7.2, 1.2, and 0.2 blocks on 44.1%, with inferior defense. Sorry bud. 3.2 apg > 2.3 ppg, that's at LEAST 6.4 ppg created vs. 2.3.He's also averaging 2 more turnovers per game with a 51 TS% to Lowry's 57 TS%. That's a big efficiency gap.

Relinquish
12-09-2014, 12:20 AM
He's also averaging 2 more turnovers per game with a 51 TS% to Lowry's 57 TS%. That's a big efficiency gap.

Lowry's TS is down vastly after tonight, where he shot 3-13. I included both players' totals after tonight. Lowry is shooting just 1% better from the field and from 3.

Legends66NBA7
12-09-2014, 12:21 AM
not the best PG in east ?

Nah, neither is he the best PG in the league.

SugarHill
12-09-2014, 12:22 AM
Lowry's TS is down vastly after tonight, where he shot 3-13. I included both players' totals after tonight. Lowry is shooting just 1% better from the field and from 3.

You're basing all this off a bad night which skewed what was their production up until now? Their efficiency was clearly separated. Lowry scores more points on much better efficiency. I have no doubt that it will return to what it was before.

Relinquish
12-09-2014, 12:23 AM
You're basing all this off a bad night which skewed what was their production up until now? Their efficiency was clearly separated. Lowry scores more points on much better efficiency. I have no doubt that it will return to what it was before.

Oh so now I'm cherry picking? Sorry, stats are stats. I love Lowry, but stats are stats. John Wall is a better player than Lowry, and there's nothing wrong with that. John is our 1st option and Lowry is your second, so once Derozan comes back it'll be back down to normal. I could say that you are cherry picking as well using stats where Lowry went berserk as the 1st option.

SugarHill
12-09-2014, 12:26 AM
Oh so now I'm cherry picking? Sorry, stats are stats. I love Lowry, but stats are stats. John Wall is a better player than Lowry, and there's nothing wrong with that. John is our 1st option and Lowry is your second, so once Derozan comes back it'll be back down to normal.

Like I said, I don't buy that and Lowry's numbers were the same all year, with or without Derozan. :durantunimpressed:

BigMacAttack
12-09-2014, 12:28 AM
You're basing all this off a bad night which skewed what was their production up until now? Their efficiency was clearly separated. Lowry scores more points on much better efficiency. I have no doubt that it will return to what it was before.

Not much of a seperation if one bad night has them almost even though.