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kuniva_dAMiGhTy
12-09-2014, 01:30 PM
Nique:
15 seasons
25/7/3 ~46% shooting (rounded)
9x NBA all star
1x Scoring Champ

Glyde:
15 seasons
20/6/6/2 ~47% shooting
10x NBA allstar
1 Championship (played a significant role)

I prefer Drexler's jumper (mostly his mechanics) and playmaking ability, but Nique was a better slasher, volume scorer, and had more memorable highlights, imo.

Myth
12-09-2014, 01:32 PM
Glyde:

1 Championship (played a significant role too)



Not only did he get a championship, he had significantly greater playoff success as the go to guy.

L.Kizzle
12-09-2014, 01:37 PM
Nique:
15 seasons
25/7/3 ~46% shooting (rounded)
9x NBA all star
1x Scoring Champ

Glyde:
15 seasons
20/6/6/2 ~47% shooting
10x NBA allstar
1 Championship (played a significant role)

I prefer Drexler's jumper (mostly his mechanics) and playmaking ability, but Nique was a better slasher, volume scorer, and had more memorable highlights, imo.
Lol at Drexler having a significant role. He was the 3rd best player in that whole Finals series behind Shaq and Hakeem. I think he avg like 21/9/7. Drexler went to the Finals three times (90, 92, 95), and the Conf Finals another two times (91, 97)

And lol at Nique having more memorable highlights, all his highlights come from the Dunk contest.

No knock on Nique, but he's below Drexler. This is like comparing Carmelo and Dwyane Wade.

Clyde's scoring is also not bad. His high was 28 ppg, and Nique's high 31.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
12-09-2014, 01:42 PM
Lol at Drexler having a significant role. He was the 3rd best player in that whole Finals series behind Shaq and Hakeem. I think he avg like 21/9/7. Drexler went to the Finals three times (90, 92, 95), and the Conf Finals another two times (91, 97)

Huh? Averaging 21/9/7 while playing elite defense isn't a significant role?


And lol at Nique having more memorable highlights, all his highlights come from the Dunk contest.

So you never watched Nique. That's fine, just keep your ignorance outta this thread though.

chocolatethunder
12-09-2014, 01:43 PM
Nique:
15 seasons
25/7/3 ~46% shooting (rounded)
9x NBA all star
1x Scoring Champ

Glyde:
15 seasons
20/6/6/2 ~47% shooting
10x NBA allstar
1 Championship (played a significant role)

I prefer Drexler's jumper (mostly his mechanics) and playmaking ability, but Nique was a better slasher, volume scorer, and had more memorable highlights, imo.
I like Clyde better but I'd never say that his mechanics were great on his J. As far as highlights are concerned, for any fans who actually got to see them both play, they are even as far as I'm concerned. Drexler was just an absolute beast and pretty much dunked in on everyone and dunked it from way further out (he was a one footed dunker not a two footed one like Nique). Drexler pretty much tomahawked everyone who was in the league when he played. I'm not taking anything away from Nique because we all know what Nique did, it's just that Drexler was underrated playing up there in Portland. Also Drxler was a far superior passer and really got his teammates involved. He was also a nightmare in the playoffs. I love and I mean love Nique but I'll go with Drexler and he's criminally underrated on this board.

Myth
12-09-2014, 01:44 PM
Lol at Drexler having a significant role. He was the 3rd best player in that whole Finals series behind Shaq and Hakeem. I think he avg like 21/9/7.


Well that settles it, Kobe didn't have a significant role in the 2000-2002 championship teams.

Marchesk
12-09-2014, 01:49 PM
And lol at Nique having more memorable highlights, all his highlights come from the Dunk contest.

There's some in game highlights on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyUf-9ruJi8

L.Kizzle
12-09-2014, 01:49 PM
Calm down folks, I was lol'ing at the OP even mentioning Clyde Drexler having a significant role in that Finals, as if we did not know that? I was making the point by putting his stats there to show he did have a significant role.

L.Kizzle
12-09-2014, 01:54 PM
There's some in game highlights on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyUf-9ruJi8
I know he had in-game dunks, but all his memorable highlights come from his dunk contest, especially in 88 when he should have won.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
12-09-2014, 01:57 PM
I like Clyde better but I'd never say that his mechanics were great on his J.
Agreed. But when comparing his shooting form to Wilkins, it just looks flat out better. To each his own though.


Also Drxler was a far superior passer and really got his teammates involved. He was also a nightmare in the playoffs. I love and I mean love Nique but I'll go with Drexler and he's criminally underrated on this board.
Definitely. His passing and defense make up for the scoring gap.

Regarding his "highlights" - maybe you're right, I just don't think all of Nique's stem from the dunk contest like that other idiot claimed. Glyde legit had thousands of coast to coast dunks and fingerolls. Watching him and Nique just seemed like two athletes who were dropped into a gym with no warm up or anything, and yet they still dominated.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
12-09-2014, 02:00 PM
Calm down folks, I was lol'ing at the OP even mentioning Clyde Drexler having a significant role in that Finals, as if we did not know that? I was making the point by putting his stats there to show he did have a significant role.
You would be surprised. I've seen countless stat nerds argue Hakeem won both those chips on his lonesome.

JohnnySic
12-09-2014, 02:04 PM
Very different players. 'Nique was a bit more "iconic".

L.Kizzle
12-09-2014, 02:08 PM
You would be surprised. I've seen countless stat nerds argue Hakeem won both those chips on his lonesome.
That is surprising, stat nerds should love Clyde's stats for the Finals.

21.5 ppg, 9.5 rpg, 6.8 apg.

L.Kizzle
12-09-2014, 02:09 PM
Very different players. 'Nique was a bit more "iconic".
How so?

Xiao Yao You
12-09-2014, 02:16 PM
Dominique was a high scoring small forward. Drexler was one of the greats. Not comparable.

JohnnySic
12-09-2014, 02:26 PM
How so?
'Nique was considered a top-flight superstar in the mid-late 80's. Won the dunk contest. He was very much in the limelight. Drexler was always in the backdground, often overlooked.

chocolatethunder
12-09-2014, 02:26 PM
Very different players. 'Nique was a bit more "iconic".
I love Nique and him and Bird had that awesome battle game and he had great dunk contests but as far as real tangible impact is concerned, it's Glide for me and it's not even remotely close. Glide could score with the best of them, dunk on everyone, make the great pass and play D. He did of course dribble with his head down and never look up and he could not beat the Bulls but he is an underrated great as far as I'm concerned. Drexler's highlights were just as good as Nique's but Portland is a small market. In addition, during Niques time, TBS (It may have been Turner at the time) broadcast every Hawks game. I live in Delaware but in 1988 or 89 I could see every Hawks game. This is pre internet and there was no ESPN and TNT didn't exist yet so the games were on CBS and NBC. So Nique def got more press. And hey, he didn't get the name human highlight film by accident. That being said, I'll take Glide and they're really a different tier of player.

turret
12-09-2014, 02:57 PM
I love Nique and him and Bird had that awesome battle game and he had great dunk contests but as far as real tangible impact is concerned, it's Glide for me and it's not even remotely close. Glide could score with the best of them, dunk on everyone, make the great pass and play D. He did of course dribble with his head down and never look up and he could not beat the Bulls but he is an underrated great as far as I'm concerned. Drexler's highlights were just as good as Nique's but Portland is a small market. In addition, during Niques time, TBS (It may have been Turner at the time) broadcast every Hawks game. I live in Delaware but in 1988 or 89 I could see every Hawks game. This is pre internet and there was no ESPN and TNT didn't exist yet so the games were on CBS and NBC. So Nique def got more press. And hey, he didn't get the name human highlight film by accident. That being said, I'll take Glide and they're really a different tier of player.


damn u old:D

i believe it was WTCG that turner first broadcast under
It was a huge thing back in the day. Hawks & braves nationally

100% agree on clyde

bizil
12-09-2014, 03:50 PM
GOAT standing, Clyde has the upper hand likely cause he won a chip and he's a top 5 GOAT SG. Peak wise, I would say Clyde as well due to his great all around ability. And even though it wasn't a huge gap, I think Nique was the better scorer and better rebounder. Nique's my favorite player of all time, but I gotta lean Clyde's way on this one. It's hard to top alpha dogs who are ALSO great all around players.

But I don't feel Nique needs to get shitted on either. Clyde's passing ability is the main difference in this equation. Many overrate Clyde's defense though. He was a good defender, but he wasn't great at D. Both guys in my book were true superstars though. U had MJ, Magic, Larry, Isiah, Drexler, and Nique as the top six perimeter players in that Golden Era once Doc slowed down.

At the time, MJ and Drexler were the freak athlete SG's at that point in NBA history who were great scorers, great rebounders, and great passers all in one. MJ gets credit for redefining the SG spot, but Clyde was VIRTUALLY doing that at the same time.

chocolatethunder
12-09-2014, 04:24 PM
GOAT standing, Clyde has the upper hand likely cause he won a chip and he's a top 5 GOAT SG. Peak wise, I would say Clyde as well due to his great all around ability. And even though it wasn't a huge gap, I think Nique was the better scorer and better rebounder. Nique's my favorite player of all time, but I gotta lean Clyde's way on this one. It's hard to top alpha dogs who are ALSO great all around players.

But I don't feel Nique needs to get shitted on either. Clyde's passing ability is the main difference in this equation. Many overrate Clyde's defense though. He was a good defender, but he wasn't great at D. Both guys in my book were true superstars though. U had MJ, Magic, Larry, Isiah, Drexler, and Nique as the top six perimeter players in that Golden Era once Doc slowed down.

At the time, MJ and Drexler were the freak athlete SG's at that point in NBA history who were great scorers, great rebounders, and great passers all in one. MJ gets credit for redefining the SG spot, but Clyde was VIRTUALLY doing that at the same time.
I agree with all that. I'm not overrating Clyde's D, it was just a lot better than Nique's that's all.

bizil
12-09-2014, 04:30 PM
I agree with all that. I'm not overrating Clyde's D, it was just a lot better than Nique's that's all.

I wasn't responding to what u said at all. I understand what u were saying. I was responding to people in the past who said Clyde was a lockdown caliber defender. I don't know where they got that from! lol But Clyde was great at getting steals though!

chocolatethunder
12-09-2014, 04:42 PM
I wasn't responding to what u said at all. I understand what u were saying. I was responding to people in the past who said Clyde was a lockdown caliber defender. I don't know where they got that from! lol But Clyde was great at getting steals though!
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