Floyd Mayweather Breaks Silence on Pacquiao Fight

[sirkeelma]

"Absolutely. I would love to fight Manny Pacquiao. We tried to make the fight happen years ago. We had problems with random blood and urine testing. Like I said, I just want to be on an even playing field. Now he's in a very tight situation. He's lost to Marquez, he's lost to Bradley, pay-per-view numbers are down extremely low, so he's desperate. I've been wanted that fight a long time ago. I'm just waiting on them. Of course we have to make the fight happen on Showtime pay-per-view because Showtime Championship Boxing is number one and will remain number one and I'm the man; I'm here to stay..."

"Floyd Mayweather is not ducking or dodging any opponent. Bob Arum is stopping the fight. We have been trying to make this fight happen behind the scenes for years now, but the fans and the people have been fooled because they have been listening to people just on one side. Now it's time for us to talk. We want the fight. We're ready. Let's make it happen. May 2nd. Mayweather vs. Manny Pacquiao. Let's do it...."

"I know that he's not on my level, the fans would love to see the fight, and of course I want to go out with a bang, so let's make this fight happen. Manny Pacquiao, Bob Arum, you guys have been ducking us for year. We're tired of you guys fooling the public, fooling the critics. Before we tried to make the fight happen. You guys didn't want to take random blood and urine testing, so that's why the fight didn't happen. Then I offered you $40 million. Then you didn't want to make the fight happen. You lost twice. Now you coming back begging for the same money. That's not going to happen. Let's make this fight happen for the people and for the fans. Mayweather vs. Manny Pacquiao. May 2nd. Cinco De Mayweather...."

Floyd Mayweather Breaks Silence on Pacquiao Fight (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf2jqnhOKXo)

It will happen!!!:rockon:

[JohnFreeman]

Mayweather is boring

[SCREWstonRockets]

We'll see. It's still my story vs his story. Both sides saying they've been wanting the fight and both sides accusing the other of ducking. Egos will be the downfall on this fight....again.

But here's to another round of "negotiations" lol

[Batz]

Is he good? Can Lebron get him?

[Lebron23]

http://cdn29.elitedaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Its-about-damn-time.gif

[oh the horror]

Mayweather is boring



This. Both of them are boring me at this point.

[chosen_one6]

The f*ck ya'll n*ggas talkin bout? Boxing is boring. Period.

[Lebron23]

I think this fight is finally going to happen.

[navy]

We'll see. It's still my story vs his story. Both sides saying they've been wanting the fight and both sides accusing the other of ducking. Egos will be the downfall on this fight....again.

But here's to another round of "negotiations" lol
Mayweather set a date. I think it's time.

[Bless Mathews]

Mayweather wants 65/35 split.

[bdreason]

Floyd will just make some ridiculous requests then claim Manny didn't want the fight.

[L.Kizzle]

Floyd 8-4.

[deja vu]

Talk is cheap, Floyd.

[DCL]

still doesn't sound like mayweather ever wants to fight pacquiao

[L.Kizzle]

Undercard

Bradley/Khan
Maidana/Broner II
Porter/Thurman

[Tarik One]

Well i won't hold my breath

[L.Kizzle]

Well i won't hold my breath
Speaking of holding your breath, ya boy Adrien Broner look like hr can't breathe. Hopefully it's just bulky muscle.

http://jocksandstilettojill.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Broner-Berto-I-cant-breathe-300x213.jpg

[gts]

I think this fight is finally going to happen.don't get your hopes up

Mayweather's people will find a way to screw it up

[GimmeThat]

what's the website to check athletes networth?

something tells me Floyd Mayweather has got his finances situation in a decent situation for not having this fight happened yet.


not saying this same statement can't be implied for Pacquiao

[DonDadda59]

He's just using Manny's name to scare off Cotto/Canelo from the Cinco de Mayo weekend date. If you pay attention to what he actually said, he put up some new roadblocks- fight can only involve Showtime knowing damn well Pacquiao is signed to HBO and the only way a fight happens is if the 2 networks collaborate, which both are willing to do. Fight's never going to happen.

[SCREWstonRockets]

what's the website to check athletes networth?

something tells me Floyd Mayweather has got his finances situation in a decent situation for not having this fight happened yet.


not saying this same statement can't be implied for Pacquiao


^^ well according to 50 cent, hes make so much money fighting anyone, that he doesn't feel he needs the Pacquiao fight. Folks will pay to see him regardless.

And he's kinda right. Fight still hasn't happened, but Floyd is still banking. Numbers might be down but they're still higher than anybody else.

[L.Kizzle]

He's just using Manny's name to scare off Cotto/Canelo from the Cinco de Mayo weekend date. If you pay attention to what he actually said, he put up some new roadblocks- fight can only involve Showtime knowing damn well Pacquiao is signed to HBO and the only way a fight happens is if the 2 networks collaborate, which both are willing to do. Fight's never going to happen.
Are you sure Pac is exclusive to HBO. I know he's Top Rank until 2016. I don't remember him signing a deal like Canelo just did for 3 fights for HBO, Floyd Showtime for 6 fights, GGG is HBO exclusive.

[DonDadda59]

Are you sure Pac is exclusive to HBO. I know he's Top Rank until 2016. I don't remember him signing a deal like Canelo just did for 3 fights for HBO, Floyd Showtime for 6 fights, GGG is HBO exclusive.

Arum made it seem the recent Top Rank extension included Manny signing an extension with HBO. Either Yahoo or ESPN had an article detailing it. HBO actually fronted some of the money for Manny's signing bonus.

[L.Kizzle]

Arum made it seem the recent Top Rank extension included Manny signing an extension with HBO. Either Yahoo or ESPN had an article detailing it. HBO actually fronted some of the money for Manny's signing bonus.
I think Top Rank has an exclusive deal with HBO but not Manny. So if the fight is not promoted by Arum and Top Rank, and either Mayweather Promotions or Golden Boy Promotions handles it, it can be on Showtime.

Like the Loma/Russell fight earlier this year. Loma is with Top Rank but the fight was promoted by Golden Boy.

[SCREWstonRockets]

You really think Bob Arum is going to step aside and let the biggest fight in history go on without him? That's like asking Ellerbe or Haymon to step aside. Thats just not going to happen.

Being that Manny is Top Rank and Top Rank is exclusive to HBO, so is Manny. Only way this fight happens is if its HBO-Showtime like Tyson-Lewis. Not sure why it has to be Showtime only.

[DonDadda59]

You really think Bob Arum is going to step aside and let the biggest fight in history go on without him? That's like asking Ellerbe or Haymon to step aside. Thats just not going to happen.

Being that Manny is Top Rank and Top Rank is exclusive to HBO, so is Manny. Only way this fight happens is if its HBO-Showtime like Tyson-Lewis.

Exactly. Both Showtime (and parent company CBS) and HBO are open to the idea doing a co-promotion, this has been well-publicized. There's absolutely no logical reason for why the fight would have to be carried solely by Showtime.

And there's no way in hell Arum takes anything less than the 27% of Pacquiao's purse and other revenues (gate, television rights, sponsorships, etc) that he's contractually guaranteed in order to appease Floyd's out of control ego.


Not sure why it has to be Showtime only.

You and everyone else knows why, even if they won't admit it. Just more of the same year in, year out.

http://blogs.independent.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/road_block.jpg

[L.Kizzle]

You really think Bob Arum is going to step aside and let the biggest fight in history go on without him? That's like asking Ellerbe or Haymon to step aside. Thats just not going to happen.

Being that Manny is Top Rank and Top Rank is exclusive to HBO, so is Manny. Only way this fight happens is if its HBO-Showtime like Tyson-Lewis. Not sure why it has to be Showtime only.
Manny not exclusive to HBO, only to Top Rank promoted HBO cards.

I just search for Manny and HBO contract deals and can't find any articles. He doesn't have one.

[DonDadda59]

Manny not exclusive to HBO, only to Top Rank promoted HBO cards.

I just search for Manny and HBO contract deals and can't find any articles. He doesn't have one.

Top Rank is exclusive with HBO... Manny has a contract with Top Rank... not that hard to put together, holmes.

Tell me one logical reason for why the fight can't be co-distributed on both networks just like Tyson-Lewis.

[L.Kizzle]

Top Rank is exclusive with HBO... Manny has a contract with Top Rank... not that hard to put together, holmes.

Tell me one logical reason for why the fight can't be co-distributed on both networks just like Tyson-Lewis.
I just gave you that example with Loma/Gary Russell. Loma is Top Rank exclusive yet fought Russell on Showtime this year. But it was a GBP card, not a Top Rank card.

And it can be, problem is Floyd and Arum. It's obvious Floyd doesn't want to work with him, and this goes baxk pre Pacquiao.

If I was Pac, I'd call Floyds bluff. He should have signed a one year deal with GBP and agree to Floyd terms. It's no way Floyd turns that fight down right? If he does, we'd all know who was holding up the fight. The hold up is Arum, who is not even the fighter.

[DonDadda59]

I just gave you that example with Loma/Gary Russell. Loma is Top Rank exclusive yet fought Russell on Showtime this year. But it was a GBP card, not a Top Rank card.

And it can be, problem is Floyd and Arum. It's obvious Floyd doesn't want to work with him, and this goes baxk pre Pacquiao.

If I was Pac, I'd call Floyds bluff. He should have signed a one year deal with GBP and agree to Floyd terms. It's no way Floyd turns that fight down right? If he does, we'd all know who was holding up the fight. The hold up is Arum, who is not even the fighter.

So basically what you're saying is that Floyd has never had any intention of fighting Manny because he was never planning on doing business with Arum? :confusedshrug:

All that 'take da test' nonsense was just a PR campaign, no? At what point exactly did Arum become the reason Floyd refused to fight Pacquiao?

And Pacquiao signing with Golden Boy would've been a terrible business move considering what a mess that company is. And let's not make believe Floyd will fight a guy just because they're signed to/working with the same company. You forget both Floyd and Margarito were signed to Top Rank when Arum was trying to make that fight.

If Floyd doesn't want to fight a guy, he won't. He can come up with as many different excuses as is humanly possible knowing that whatever garbage he throws out there, his fans will eat it up. #TakeDaTest #NoArum #ShowtimeOrNoFight

[Tarik One]

I think Top Rank has an exclusive deal with HBO but not Manny. So if the fight is not promoted by Arum and Top Rank, and either Mayweather Promotions or Golden Boy Promotions handles it, it can be on Showtime.

Pac would be a stone fool to ditch HBO/Top Rank and go to Showtime.

[PistonsFan#21]

So basically what you're saying is that Floyd has never had any intention of fighting Manny because he was never planning on doing business with Arum? :confusedshrug:

All that 'take da test' nonsense was just a PR campaign, no? At what point exactly did Arum become the reason Floyd refused to fight Pacquiao?

And Pacquiao signing with Golden Boy would've been a terrible business move considering what a mess that company is. And let's not make believe Floyd will fight a guy just because they're signed to/working with the same company. You forget both Floyd and Margarito were signed to Top Rank when Arum was trying to make that fight.

If Floyd doesn't want to fight a guy, he won't. He can come up with as many different excuses as is humanly possible knowing that whatever garbage he throws out there, his fans will eat it up. #TakeDaTest #NoArum #ShowtimeOrNoFight

You like to point out the reasons Floyd mentionned for the fight not happening but i never see you mention Manny's excuses of refusing blood testing, claiming hes scared of needles, saying it all depends on his promoter Bob Arum etc.

And then there was Bob Arum himself saying they cant make a fight happen until he builds an outdoor stadium that can seat 40 000 people. How is the construction of that stadium doing? :hammerhead:

#DependsOnMyPromoterBobArum
#ScaredOfNeedles
#NeedAnOutdoorStadium
#NeedANoticeBeforeTheRandomBloodTesting


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XfgFopbiRg

[PistonsFan#21]

Excuse my ignorance on the state of boxing, but wouldn't it be better to be on PPV instead of HBO or Showtime?

its gonna be a PPV (probably around $85-100 to order it if it happens). The negotiations is whether its on HBO PPV or Showtime PPV, but it most likely would have to be a split between both

[Wally450]

He said what he said because if he chooses to fight Khan, barring him winning his fight tonight, it's going to do awful ratings compared to Canelo Cotto. He's just trying to put media hype out there because it is the only fight that will out do Canelo Cotto.

[Tarik One]

You like to point out the reasons Floyd mentionned for the fight not happening but i never see you mention Manny's excuses of refusing blood testing, claiming hes scared of needles, saying it all depends on his promoter Bob Arum etc.

And then there was Bob Arum himself saying they cant make a fight happen until he builds an outdoor stadium that can seat 40 000 people. How is the construction of that stadium doing? :hammerhead:

#DependsOnMyPromoterBobArum
#ScaredOfNeedles
#NeedAnOutdoorStadium
#NeedANoticeBeforeTheRandomBloodTesting


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XfgFopbiRg


Pac fans can say what they want but they can't change or twist facts: everything was agreed on - money, venue, rights, ect. Only one thing remained: the drug testing issue. Floyd wanted a 14 day cut off date, Manny wanted a 24 day cut off date. That was the sole sticking point and the reason the fight never happened.

If Manny had agreed to a 14 day cut off date for the drug testing, this fight would have happened 4 years ago. He didn't. He felt that having blood drawn as close as two weeks before a fight would be way too traumatic for a boxing warrior to recover from... even though Floyd would have had to have taken the same test. So the fight never happened.

[NZStreetBaller]

This is just outright fukin annoying.....

floyds fault mannys fault arums fault.

why is it so damn hard to just get two fighters in the goddam ring and fight.

Boxers these days man:facepalm

UFC UFC UFC !!!

[BigBoss]

If I were Pacquiao I would give Mayweather the 60/40 split just to get his him in the ring. A win against him means a 50-50 split for the rematch and skyrockets his status as P4P best in the world.

[BigBoss]

This is just outright fukin annoying.....

floyds fault mannys fault arums fault.

why is it so damn hard to just get two fighters in the goddam ring and fight.

Boxers these days man:facepalm

UFC UFC UFC !!!

Because hundreds of millions of dollars are on the table. A Mayweather-Pacquiao fight is 10 UFC PPV's.

[plowking]

Top Rank is exclusive with HBO... Manny has a contract with Top Rank... not that hard to put together, holmes.

Tell me one logical reason for why the fight can't be co-distributed on both networks just like Tyson-Lewis.

So why did Manny sign with Top Rank again? Isn't he big enough to go out on his own like Mayweather? If getting a fight with Mayweather was so important to him, he would be able to get one without Top Rank, and get more money than he ever has, even with only taking 40% of the bank from the fight. Hell, even taking 25% of it.

Yet, he signed on again with them. But yeah, Mayweather putting up the roadblocks despite saying that he wants the fight... lol.

[Angel Face]

It will happen...About damn time. I like Pac but being a boxing fan and a student of boxing, Mayweather got this via UD. Mayweather's style of fighting is Pac's weakness.

[DonDadda59]

So why did Manny sign with Top Rank again?

Because he wants guaranteed money without having to worry about raising capital and having the burden of handling the logistics of putting together major PPV cards. It's the same reason Floyd gave up his independent status and signed with Showtime while paying GBP a fee to handle the promotional end.


Yet, he signed on again with them. But yeah, Mayweather putting up the roadblocks despite saying that he wants the fight... lol.

Yes. Exactly.

Floyd is either going to fight Khan in April or June or he's going to take the first part of the year off completely. The only reason he's talking Pacquiao now (after being completely silent for weeks) is because Canelo stole his Cinco De Mayo date and he thinks by using Manny's name as a threat for that date, the Canelo-Cotto fight will be moved to June.

I guarantee you that if/when Canelo-Cotto is officially signed, that will be the last time you ever hear Floyd mention Pacquiao's name in public. At best all you'll get in the future will be:

'But he still got Marquez problems doe'

'But he ain't want to do Showtime only'

'But I can't do business with Bob Arum because... well, just because'

'But he ain't take the $30 million with no back end I offered'

But keep thinking he all of a sudden is talking Pacquiao on 'Cinco de Mayweather' only after it looks like Cotto/Canelo is close to being finalized for that date... after being a silent for weeks following Pacquiao/Arum calling him out... because now he really wants the fight :oldlol:

[Tarik One]

It will happen...About damn time. I like Pac but being a boxing fan and a student of boxing, Mayweather got this via UD. Mayweather's style of fighting is Pac's weakness.
3-5 years ago it was, by a wide margin. Floyd can't slip punches and counter on the ropes like he used to. Floyd wins, but not in the same fashion as he would have had they fought initially.

[NZStreetBaller]

Because hundreds of millions of dollars are on the table. A Mayweather-Pacquiao fight is 10 UFC PPV's.

money money money. everybody is gonna make shtloads anyways.

What ever happened to boxing being about proving yourself against all fighters leaving no stone unturned. aiming to be the best.

Now days its money 1st legacy 2nd. this hurts the sport so much

[BigBoss]

money money money. everybody is gonna make shtloads anyways.

What ever happened to boxing being about proving yourself against all fighters leaving no stone unturned. aiming to be the best.

Now days its money 1st legacy 2nd. this hurts the sport so much

No shit but lets be real you and I would be playing the same politics if we were Mayweather.

[Lebron23]

3-5 years ago it was, by a wide margin. Floyd can't slip punches and counter on the ropes like he used to. Floyd wins, but not in the same fashion as he would have had they fought initially.


And Marquez is an aggressive counter puncher while Floyd uses his shoulder roll defense.


The good news for Floyd is that Manny is not a dirty fighter unlike Maidana.

[PistonsFan#21]

money money money. everybody is gonna make shtloads anyways.

What ever happened to boxing being about proving yourself against all fighters leaving no stone unturned. aiming to be the best.

Now days its money 1st legacy 2nd. this hurts the sport so much

UFC messd up on some big matchups too. How come the Anderson Silva vs GSP fight never happened when they were both considered top 2 pound for pound? Or Dana never getting Fedor Emelienko a 1 fight deal when he was still in his prime and considered the best heavyweight in MMA :confusedshrug:

[Rooster]

You like to point out the reasons Floyd mentionned for the fight not happening but i never see you mention Manny's excuses of refusing blood testing, claiming hes scared of needles, saying it all depends on his promoter Bob Arum etc.

And then there was Bob Arum himself saying they cant make a fight happen until he builds an outdoor stadium that can seat 40 000 people. How is the construction of that stadium doing? :hammerhead:

#DependsOnMyPromoterBobArum
#ScaredOfNeedles
#NeedAnOutdoorStadium
#NeedANoticeBeforeTheRandomBloodTesting


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XfgFopbiRg

Floyd got scared after Pacquiao annihilated Cotto and that is why he accused Pacquiao of PED and he find a way out of the fight. When Pacquaio said lets do it, the OST, Floyd found another excuse with PPV Share and take the 40 million. Now Floyd said he will fight Pacquaio but Pacquaio has to take less then that with only Showtime. Floyd continue to put a roadblock for six years now. I don't think this fight is happening unless Floyd grows a pair.

[Rooster]

So why did Manny sign with Top Rank again? Isn't he big enough to go out on his own like Mayweather? If getting a fight with Mayweather was so important to him, he would be able to get one without Top Rank, and get more money than he ever has, even with only taking 40% of the bank from the fight. Hell, even taking 25% of it.

Yet, he signed on again with them. But yeah, Mayweather putting up the roadblocks despite saying that he wants the fight... lol.

Action speaks louder than words. Floyd mumbles when's he's scared just like in Margarito days. Floyd does not self promote himself . Did you see the checks that he was bragging. It's all from Golden Boy. And just like what Dadda said, there's a lot ot numbers and logistics to put up a PPV fight. Pacquiao has to to whatever to do to make money because there's no guarantee Floyd will ever fight him.

[NZStreetBaller]

No shit but lets be real you and I would be playing the same politics if we were Mayweather.

If i was mayweather and I believed i was the best fighter in the planet id have no problem with taking 50% of the moeny in a fight thats going to generate hundreds of millions

[plowking]

Action speaks louder than words. Floyd mumbles when's he's scared just like in Margarito days. Floyd does not self promote himself . Did you see the checks that he was bragging. It's all from Golden Boy. And just like what Dadda said, there's a lot ot numbers and logistics to put up a PPV fight. Pacquiao has to to whatever to do to make money because there's no guarantee Floyd will ever fight him.

Actions? Like the fight being ready, all apart from Manny agreeing on a 14 day cut off date? At the end of the day, that is why talks broke down originally.

That is a fact, and you're acting like it is Floyd's fault. It is easy to come out and talk shit after the dust has settled, and after you're struggling to make PPV numbers fighting Chris Algieri. :oldlol:

Fact is, the fight would have happened if Manny agreed to 14 days.

[BigBoss]

If i was mayweather and I believed i was the best fighter in the planet id have no problem with taking 50% of the moeny in a fight thats going to generate hundreds of millions

Really? Mayweather is the bigger draw here. He's undefeated. He's entitled to a bigger cut. I would pressure for a 60/40 split. Pacquiao needs to accept it, but ask for a 50/50 cut if he is the winner of this fight in a rematch. Mayweather can push for a 65/35 cut in the rematch if he's the winner. Regardless, this is all hypotheticals but do you see how complicated this is? When your at that level you don't leave money on the table when its your last 2 fights.

[Rooster]

Actions? Like the fight being ready, all apart from Manny agreeing on a 14 day cut off date? At the end of the day, that is why talks broke down originally.

That is a fact, and you're acting like it is Floyd's fault. It is easy to come out and talk shit after the dust has settled, and after you're struggling to make PPV numbers fighting Chris Algieri. :oldlol:

Fact is, the fight would have happened if Manny agreed to 14 days.

BS. When OST was settled, Floyd went on take it or leave it 40 million. Then Bob Arum and now Showtime only. He used the blood test to masked his fear even accusing a midget of using PED after the Cotto fight.

[Rooster]

Really? Mayweather is the bigger draw here. He's undefeated. He's entitled to a bigger cut. I would pressure for a 60/40 split. Pacquiao needs to accept it, but ask for a 50/50 cut if he is the winner of this fight in a rematch. Mayweather can push for a 65/35 cut in the rematch if he's the winner. Regardless, this is all hypotheticals but do you see how complicated this is? When your at that level you don't leave money on the table when its your last 2 fights.

Pacquaio camp are already willing to get the lesser cut. If Floyd insist Pacquaio should just take less than 40 million for everything and only on Showtime then this fight will never get done. I'm pretty sure Floyd apologist will be happy that their hero dodge another bullet and make an argument about Floyd being the smart businessman.

[NZStreetBaller]

Really? Mayweather is the bigger draw here. He's undefeated. He's entitled to a bigger cut. I would pressure for a 60/40 split. Pacquiao needs to accept it, but ask for a 50/50 cut if he is the winner of this fight in a rematch. Mayweather can push for a 65/35 cut in the rematch if he's the winner. Regardless, this is all hypotheticals but do you see how complicated this is? When your at that level you don't leave money on the table when its your last 2 fights.


well yes I would want the majority of the money or what i feel i am entitled to. but at the same time i would not want to miss out on this amount so if there was absolutely no way to budge pacquiao. I would take the 50% then whoop his ass (if mayweather truely believes he can)

even at 50 this will be mayweathers biggest pay day.

[Tarik One]

Actions? Like the fight being ready, all apart from Manny agreeing on a 14 day cut off date? At the end of the day, that is why talks broke down originally.

That is a fact, and you're acting like it is Floyd's fault. It is easy to come out and talk shit after the dust has settled, and after you're struggling to make PPV numbers fighting Chris Algieri. :oldlol:

Fact is, the fight would have happened if Manny agreed to 14 days.


Pac fans will always say "OH WHO IS FLOYD TO DEMAND SPECIAL STIPULATIONS, HE JUST DID THAT SO THE FIGHT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN", ironically ignoring the fact that Pac also demands his own special stipulations (Mayweather would have had to turn over several million dollars for every pound he came in over the limit, and every other Pac fight seems to be at a special catch weight).

Well, those "special stipulations" that Floyd demanded 4 years ago have pretty much become standard practice since, and Manny has since participated in it in several of his fights afterwards, so I guess it wasn't too outrageous for Floyd to demand it.

Also, when you have a guy who's camp "allegedly" (reported by several very credible sources) inquired as to A) what the penalty for testing positive would be and B) if a positive test could be kept secret... it might be best to make that guy take a stringent drug test.

The facts favor Floyd, people who claim Floyd ducked him never have any logic for their opinion, they just think that if they say it often enough it'll be true. But it's not, it's ridiculous.

[Godzuki]

if anyone believes a word out of mayweathers mouth they're idiots :facepalm

Pac really has never had anything to lose wanting to fight Mayweather so why would he ever duck him? while Mayweather had everything to lose, most importantly his precious undefeated record. he only says shit like this now since he's finally realizing he'll be remembered as a ducker, not a true champion in many peoples eyes.

its sad they're going to still make a killing off this fight even tho its going to happen way too late. fukkin boxing :facepalm

[Nastradamus]

Its just an insane concept to me that Floyd is afraid of a guy who got knocked the F out(and who probably lost Marquez 3) by a guy he dominated. That he would be afraid of a guy who fought the same guys Floyd fought, at significantly lower weights. Why in the hell would that fighter scare him?

OTOH, you have a guy going up against an undefeated fighter, largely considered the best in the world, and avoiding drug tests and turning down his biggest payday ever in order to take less and fight scrubs. I mean, good God. Floyd would never fight Algieri or Rios.

[SCREWstonRockets]

I just gave you that example with Loma/Gary Russell. Loma is Top Rank exclusive yet fought Russell on Showtime this year. But it was a GBP card, not a Top Rank card.

And it can be, problem is Floyd and Arum. It's obvious Floyd doesn't want to work with him, and this goes baxk pre Pacquiao.

If I was Pac, I'd call Floyds bluff. He should have signed a one year deal with GBP and agree to Floyd terms. It's no way Floyd turns that fight down right? If he does, we'd all know who was holding up the fight. The hold up is Arum, who is not even the fighter.

Big difference between stepping aside for Loma-Russell and the biggest fight ever. In actuality, Golden Boy won the purse bid to promote the fight, Top Rank didn't step aside (this fight was before they officially started "working together".

And the whole Bob Arum angle is lame to me. I'd buy the money split issues before that one. If Top Rank and Golden Boy can come and work together, why isn't Floyd willing to do the same? Bob Arum, the man who everyone said only does in house fights, is working with the company who both swore they would never work together. Arum isn't exactly best friends with Ellerbe or Haymon but we haven't heard him say Floyd needs to leave them out in order for the fight to happen.

http://i.imgur.com/jTggtd5.jpg



So why did Manny sign with Top Rank again? Isn't he big enough to go out on his own like Mayweather? If getting a fight with Mayweather was so important to him, he would be able to get one without Top Rank, and get more money than he ever has, even with only taking 40% of the bank from the fight. Hell, even taking 25% of it.

Yet, he signed on again with them. But yeah, Mayweather putting up the roadblocks despite saying that he wants the fight... lol.

Lol wait so Manny put up a roadblock....by resigning with the promoter that guided his career and made him into the star that he is? Haha OK. I guess we're reaching here.

If we're going to reach, if Floyd truly wants the fight, why doesn't he leave Haymon/Ellerbe and work with Arum? If he really wants the fight like he says he does, why did he say he was no longer going to work with Golden Boy after they agreed to work with Top Rank? Even though he went back to work with Golden Boy anyway.

What are Manny's demands? That he comes with Bob Arum? Is that it? That's what this has come down to? He can't even have that? Lol he probably won't even get to wear the gloves he want.

[iamgine]

"He (Mayweather) has reached a dead end. He has nowhere to run but to fight me," said Pacquiao.

"I will try my best to make this a thrilling and entertaining fight. But I doubt if he's gonna engage me in a slugfest.

"You all know his fighting style. Most of his previous fights, if not all, induced us to sleep."

"I know what I have to do. I will chase him wherever he goes just in case he decides to run around the ring. We will devise a good fight plan against him," Pacquiao said.

Pacquiao also insists the division of the purse - the fight is expected to be the richest in boxing history - is not an issue for him.

"Mayweather can get the amount he wants. As early as January this year, I challenged him to a charity fight. Until now, he has not agreed to it. So, money is not the issue in our fight," he added.

"This fight is about legacy, this is about making the fans happy and, above all, this is for the good of boxing."

[plowking]

Did Manny not turn down the biggest pay day of his life, simply for not wanting to give blood within 14 days, or whatever it was at the time?

The answer to that question is, yes. Hence, if it wasn't for Manny saying "Blood test that close to the fight makes me weak", there would be a fight.

So how is Floyd the one ducking? He is the champ, widely considered the better fighter, and the bigger draw. Naturally, he should get privileges as to what goes down. If Manny wanted this fight so bad, he would have taken the test. Simple. I don't see how it is on Floyd, if you look at the situation with any sort of objectivity.

[SCREWstonRockets]

But Bob Arum is his promoter! Floyd says he won't work with Arum. So what makes you think the fight happens if Manny agreed the first time? Arum is still there.

You are delusional if you don't think both these guys played a role in the fight not happening yet. I think if Floyd truly wants this fight, it will happen. What other fight that Floyd wanted, but he was never able to get? Floyd always gets the fights that HE WANTS.

[Rooster]

Also, when you have a guy who's camp "allegedly" (reported by several very credible sources) inquired as to A) what the penalty for testing positive would be and B) if a positive test could be kept secret... it might be best to make that guy take a stringent drug test.

.

What sources. Teddy Atlas. When the world asked him to release the email in public to see if he's lying, he shut up and this issue became dead.

Look Floyd was scared. His dad was even insinuating for someone in their camp to watch Pacquiao 24-7 on his training if his son agrees to fight him.

[Rooster]

Did Manny not turn down the biggest pay day of his life, simply for not wanting to give blood within 14 days, or whatever it was at the time?

The answer to that question is, yes. Hence, if it wasn't for Manny saying "Blood test that close to the fight makes me weak", there would be a fight.

So how is Floyd the one ducking? He is the champ, widely considered the better fighter, and the bigger draw. Naturally, he should get privileges as to what goes down. If Manny wanted this fight so bad, he would have taken the test. Simple. I don't see how it is on Floyd, if you look at the situation with any sort of objectivity.

Like I said Floyd was the chicken. Just look at their history and the way they fight. One clearly avoid taking a risk. Just like when he avoid the biggest payday of his life to avoid Margarito and fought Baldomir back in the day.

[Rooster]

Its just an insane concept to me that Floyd is afraid of a guy who got knocked the F out(and who probably lost Marquez 3) by a guy he dominated. That he would be afraid of a guy who fought the same guys Floyd fought, at significantly lower weights. Why in the hell would that fighter scare him?

OTOH, you have a guy going up against an undefeated fighter, largely considered the best in the world, and avoiding drug tests and turning down his biggest payday ever in order to take less and fight scrubs. I mean, good God. Floyd would never fight Algieri or Rios.

Triangle theories never work in boxing. It's always style make fights.

Undefeated means nothing if you can't get the respect of the boxing fans. Floyd fought Baldomir when the boxing fans want too see him against Margarito. And that is why he's always considered a ducker.

[DonDadda59]

Its just an insane concept to me that Floyd is afraid of a guy who got knocked the F out(and who probably lost Marquez 3) by a guy he dominated. That he would be afraid of a guy who fought the same guys Floyd fought, at significantly lower weights. Why in the hell would that fighter scare him?

Floyd and his team may talk tough now but for years when the public was screaming for the fight they didn't even try to hide the fact they wanted NO part of Pacquiao and they were indeed literally frightened of him.

Floyd Sr: 'If My son's fighting that little man, I'm concerned about my son's life' (http://www.boxing247.com/weblog/news.php?p=25800&more=1)

FLoyd Jr.: 'My health is more important than any amount of money' (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQSE5Ymh3ro)

These dudes were convinced that Floyd stepping into the ring with Manny then was the equivalent of a death sentence :oldlol:

But disregard what they were saying, it's crazy to think they were scared... despite them saying to anyone who would listen just how scared they were.

Take da test and we got a fight doe.


OTOH, you have a guy going up against an undefeated fighter, largely considered the best in the world, and avoiding drug tests and turning down his biggest payday ever in order to take less and fight scrubs. I mean, good God. Floyd would never fight Algieri or Rios.

Dude just lost Showtime $16 million by fighting Marcos Maidana twice in 2014, struggling mightily at that. Chino is on the same level as a Brandon Rios. Bradley is the best opponent either of them has faced in a while and he was 'undefeated' (just like Algieri) when Pac fought him.

[DonDadda59]

Big difference between stepping aside for Loma-Russell and the biggest fight ever. In actuality, Golden Boy won the purse bid to promote the fight, Top Rank didn't step aside (this fight was before they officially started "working together".

And the whole Bob Arum angle is lame to me. I'd buy the money split issues before that one. If Top Rank and Golden Boy can come and work together, why isn't Floyd willing to do the same? Bob Arum, the man who everyone said only does in house fights, is working with the company who both swore they would never work together. Arum isn't exactly best friends with Ellerbe or Haymon but we haven't heard him say Floyd needs to leave them out in order for the fight to happen.

http://i.imgur.com/jTggtd5.jpg


Exactly. :applause:

As soon as Oscar realized that Schaefer was scheming with Al Haymon to guy Golden Boy and poach their roster he gave him the boot. Immediately after this, he reached across the table to Arum and a few months later we're seeing them putting up fights together and they're working on a Canelo-Cotto super fight.

Arum has managed to make mega fights with rivals and people who hate him and vice versa (see: King, Don). At this point, he's largely a figurehead at Top Rank anyway. His stepson Todd DuBoef as been running the day to day and he has always had a great personal and professional relationship with Floyd dating all the way back to when TR signed him very early in his career.

That I can't fight Manny because I don't like Arum bullshit won't fly. And it begs the question- when exactly did that become a deal breaker? Was this before or after the testing impasse? :confusedshrug:

[GimmeThat]

"on one end, we have the boxer who believes the sport is greater than the individual, on the other, we have the boxer who believes the boxer itself is can/should be greater than the sport itself"

"let the RUMBBBLEEEE BEGIN!!!!!"




... so there's my f*cking rum....

[L.Kizzle]

These gentleman will be fighting next year. Not sure if Mayweather will fight Khan first though.

[sirkeelma]

"He (Mayweather) has reached a dead end. He has nowhere to run but to fight me," said Pacquiao.

"I will try my best to make this a thrilling and entertaining fight. But I doubt if he's gonna engage me in a slugfest.

"You all know his fighting style. Most of his previous fights, if not all, induced us to sleep."

"I know what I have to do. I will chase him wherever he goes just in case he decides to run around the ring. We will devise a good fight plan against him," Pacquiao said.

Pacquiao also insists the division of the purse - the fight is expected to be the richest in boxing history - is not an issue for him.

"Mayweather can get the amount he wants. As early as January this year, I challenged him to a charity fight. Until now, he has not agreed to it. So, money is not the issue in our fight," he added.

"This fight is about legacy, this is about making the fans happy and, above all, this is for the good of boxing."

Pacquiao's heart and love for the boxing:bowdown:

[magic chiongson]

typical floyd talk. this fight still aint happening.

[Nastradamus]

Floyd and his team may talk tough now but for years when the public was screaming for the fight they didn't even try to hide the fact they wanted NO part of Pacquiao and they were indeed literally frightened of him.

Floyd Sr: 'If My son's fighting that little man, I'm concerned about my son's life' (http://www.boxing247.com/weblog/news.php?p=25800&more=1)

FLoyd Jr.: 'My health is more important than any amount of money' (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQSE5Ymh3ro)

These dudes were convinced that Floyd stepping into the ring with Manny then was the equivalent of a death sentence :oldlol:

But disregard what they were saying, it's crazy to think they were scared... despite them saying to anyone who would listen just how scared they were.

Take da test and we got a fight doe.



Dude just lost Showtime $16 million by fighting Marcos Maidana twice in 2014, struggling mightily at that. Chino is on the same level as a Brandon Rios. Bradley is the best opponent either of them has faced in a while and he was 'undefeated' (just like Algieri) when Pac fought him.

Lol, everything is wrong with this post. First of all your video of Floyd makes Manny look stupid if anything. If you think him wanting to fight clean fighters, which is ALL HE SAID, makes him a coward you're a moron.

Second of all, Floyd has agreed on his end to this fight twice now. Manny has turned it down for 2 different reasons.

Third, Maidana would destroy Rios or Algieri and likely Bradley too. Both were coming off losses(if you think Algieri beat Provodkinov, who isn't that good even, you're on crack) and have beaten nobody, just like Timothy Bradley who can't convincingly beat Chavez.

[Nastradamus]

Triangle theories never work in boxing. It's always style make fights.

Undefeated means nothing if you can't get the respect of the boxing fans. Floyd fought Baldomir when the boxing fans want too see him against Margarito. And that is why he's always considered a ducker.

and Floyd is a counterpuncher like JMM. Either way, I'm not using triangle theory and saying that is why Floyd would beat him, I'm just saying he has no need to be afraid of the guy. Why Manny? Because he beat DLH and Cotto at significantly smaller weights than Floyd did? Or is it because he convincingly beat a guy with 12 KOs?

[SCREWstonRockets]

Third, Maidana would destroy Rios or Algieri and likely Bradley too. Both were coming off losses(if you think Algieri beat Provodkinov, who isn't that good even, you're on crack) and have beaten nobody, just like Timothy Bradley who can't convincingly beat Chavez.

lol who did Maidana beat? That fraud Broner? :lol

They've both fought B-level opponents. Ortiz,Guerrero,Maidana & Rios, Aligeri, Clottey

[Nastradamus]

lol who did Maidana beat? That fraud Broner? :lol

They've both fought B-level opponents. Ortiz,Guerrero,Maidana & Rios, Aligeri, Clottey

Guererro was a top 10 p4p fighter on boxrec.com when they fought and was picked to beat Floyd by more boxing writers than anyone he's fought recently. I believe 6/16 on ringTV. Just because Floyd anhilated him doesn't make him Chris Algieri. Ortiz had just beaten Berto, the only guy to do so and was considered a rising star at the time. Everyone thought Berto was coming for Floyd. Lets not forget that he also fought Maidana being 20 lbs lighter than him on fight night and only rematched him because a bunch of idiots had to try and say that Maidana beat him. He also fought Canelo in there, another top 5-10 p4p guy who was 20 lbs heavier than him and fought Cotto at his real weight.

Please Lord let Maidana fight Bradley...

[L.Kizzle]

A lot of commotion about the May 2nd date (and Sep.13) has been going on. Mayweather has been fighting on these dates for some time nowm

Canelo says he wants the dates.

Arum agreed with Canelo that he and not Floyd should get those dates. He said it's disrespectful to fight on that date.

Oscar said today that Floyd gets that date over Canelo if only he fights Pac.

[christian1923]

PAC And Floyd are so smart for milking the fight for this long. Theyre gonna make more money now than they would have 5 years ago.

[Rooster]

and Floyd is a counterpuncher like JMM. Either way, I'm not using triangle theory and saying that is why Floyd would beat him, I'm just saying he has no need to be afraid of the guy. Why Manny? Because he beat DLH and Cotto at significantly smaller weights than Floyd did? Or is it because he convincingly beat a guy with 12 KOs?


So why did Floyd accused Pacquaio of PED then asked for a blood test?

[Rooster]

Guererro was a top 10 p4p fighter on boxrec.com when they fought and was picked to beat Floyd by more boxing writers than anyone he's fought recently. I believe 6/16 on ringTV. Just because Floyd anhilated him doesn't make him Chris Algieri. Ortiz had just beaten Berto, the only guy to do so and was considered a rising star at the time. Everyone thought Berto was coming for Floyd. Lets not forget that he also fought Maidana being 20 lbs lighter than him on fight night and only rematched him because a bunch of idiots had to try and say that Maidana beat him. He also fought Canelo in there, another top 5-10 p4p guy who was 20 lbs heavier than him and fought Cotto at his real weight.

Please Lord let Maidana fight Bradley...

Guerrero was never consider anything but an alphabet holder. And boxrec P4P list is always a farce. Only newbies look at that list. Andre Berto was all hype who got exposed when he finally step up. And of course Floyd made a bitch move when he required a puncher like Maidana to wear the pillow gloves.

[DonD13]

how is he breaking the silence??

same shit that is going on for years... :facepalm

[Rooster]

how is he breaking the silence??

same shit that is going on for years... :facepalm

Well at least he's not saying health comes first.

[L.Kizzle]

He's just using Manny's name to scare off Cotto/Canelo from the Cinco de Mayo weekend date. If you pay attention to what he actually said, he put up some new roadblocks- fight can only involve Showtime knowing damn well Pacquiao is signed to HBO and the only way a fight happens is if the 2 networks collaborate, which both are willing to do. Fight's never going to happen.
:biggums:

[DonDadda59]

:biggums:

Les Moonves = GOAT :bowdown: