So Lebron tried to do the Jordan lean-in tonight..

[3ball]

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lebron has become old, low-flyer... takes extra time to set up Jordan Lean-In.. mechanical, no fluidity.. :facepalm


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[navy]

You're obsessed.

[dunksby]

I suspect half my bandwidth is spent loading up 3ball posts.

[3ball]

You're obsessed.
just keeping it real... gotta call out the low-flyers.. :banana:
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[navy]

I suspect half my bandwidth is spent loading up 3ball posts.
:oldlol:

[9erempiree]

I am going to disagree with the OP. Jordan didn't invent the "jordan lean-in" as you like to call it.

Just like there is no such thing as Jordan fade away, Jordan hook shot, Jordan chewing gum and Jordan is the only black player.

[Im Still Ballin]

MIke is a better 2 legged jumper

Lebron is a better 1 legged jumper

[3ball]

MIke is a better 2 legged jumper

Lebron is a better 1 legged jumper
they're pretty equal off one leg - jordan cocks it back from the FT line with ease - lebron isn't doing any better than that.

certainly, they are closer off one leg than they are off two - Lebron has almost no chest-to-chest posters over defenders off two legs (in b4 damon jones), while jordan has tons off one or two legs.

also, by the age of 29, jordan jumped higher either way.

[JohnMax]

Bruce Blitz ?

[3ball]

haha look at nance's reaction in that first jordan gif - he's like "holy crap, i want no part of this, get that ball away from me"

[Cocaine80s]

they're pretty equal off one leg - jordan cocks it back from the FT line with ease - lebron isn't doing any better than that.

certainly, they are closer off one leg than they are off two - Lebron has almost no chest-to-chest posters over defenders off two legs (in b4 damon jones), while jordan has tons off one or two legs.

also, by the age of 29, jordan jumped higher either way.
Lebron>>>Jordan off one foot

[3ball]

Lebron>>>Jordan off one foot
nah... lebron's peak vs jordan's peak off one leg is about the same.

and now at age 29, jordan is easily > of one leg than lebron.

of course, off two legs, a lot of guys jump higher than lebron, let alone jordan.

[Cocaine80s]

nah... lebron's peak vs jordan's peak off one leg is about the same.

and now at age 29, jordan is easily > of one leg than lebron.

of course, off two legs, a lot of guys jump higher than lebron, let alone jordan.
Nah jordan is much worse off one leg compared to lebron at his peak

[3ball]

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[3ball]

Jordan had a documented 48 inch vertical... i'll prove it to you in a sec..

[3ball]

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Jordan had a documented 48" vertical:


Here's an article by Tim Grover where he documented Jordan's vertical at his sports academy... http://www.si.com/edge/2014/10/16/tim-grover-talent-isnt-enough


Here is a study done by researchers at UNC on Jordan's vertical... http://www.jospt.org/doi/pdf/10.2519/jospt.1999.29.1.A1



Also, in the first GIF from the OP, Jordan's head looks like it gets above the rim - i could probably pause it at the right time and jordan's head would be at the rim vs Nance...

here are photos of Jordan with his head over the rim:

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/12/16/ae/1216aedac0840356aee74ed3ec665aca.jpg
http://sports.mearsonlineauctions.com/ItemImages/000033/79c1d42e-a6c6-4207-adc6-d8b35af9ed25_lg.jpeg
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSP4VB6PPMQ1iuchVua-B0-Bt31IZxqt9qr_kJUWB-ASvtcj-DJ
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/umdatz/MJrimlevel_zps94088237.png
http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/7a0dfd2c3a222ad713c51357c3ed3316.jpeg
http://thebestten.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/michaeljordan1985.jpg?w=595&h=801
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/umdatz/MJEwing_zps36f2be72.jpg
http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/5c4e033c1a71be21c6ce27ed5a253d6f.jpeg
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[leBron Bieber]

plz show me jordan doing this in a game:rolleyes: .. look how easy it was for him at full speed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1z4H9UklTQM

[Prometheus]

Yes Jordan's dunks are nicer than LeBron's.

OP needs therapy.

[Indian guy]

Nobody has ever argued LeBron's anywhere close to being the 2 footed leaper MJ was. And why post gifs of a 24, 25 and 28 year old MJ when LeBron's 2 weeks short of his 30th birthday? MJ's leaping ability by 30(1993) had seen a noticeable dip too.

[DCL]

MIke is a better 2 legged jumper

Lebron is a better 1 legged jumper



you're talking out of your ass if you think mike was an inferior one-legged jumper.

dude dunked from the friggin foul line. that's planting on one foot and then flying.

[MP.Trey]

Looks like a regular two foot dunk to me. :confusedshrug:

What's next, LeBron shoots a turnaround and you post six gifs of better looking MJ turnarounds? Who the **** cares? 2 points is 2 points.

EDIT: Two foot, not two handed

[Magic 32]

Not exactly a bald eagle.

[SugarHill]

you're talking out of your ass if you think mike was an inferior one-legged jumper.

dude dunked from the friggin foul line. that's planting on one foot and then flying.

So what? LeBron did that in game, essentially.

[SwishSquared]

Not to be disrespectful, but why are we comparing MJ when he's basically in top athletic shape to the version of LBJ that's declined athletically? I mean LBJ will probably surpass the total minutes MJ played as a Bull by the end of this year (depending on his MPG and the extent of their assumed playoff run). He's got a ton of wear/tear on his legs, especially since he's carried so much more weight for so long.

MJ was a hecka of leaper off one or both feet, and LBJ's no slouch.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Why is OP so obsessed with LeBron and Jordan comparisons? I feel like I can't open a thread without some 3ball comparisons popping up.

Actually thinking about pulling a Droid101 and using the IL.

Can't he post this shit all in one thread maybe in the Chicago Bulls fan forum?

[chosen_one6]

they're pretty equal off one leg - jordan cocks it back from the FT line with ease - lebron isn't doing any better than that.

certainly, they are closer off one leg than they are off two - Lebron has almost no chest-to-chest posters over defenders off two legs (in b4 damon jones), while jordan has tons off one or two legs.

also, by the age of 29, jordan jumped higher either way.

Despite the fact that LeBron outweighs Jordan's playing weight by nearly 50 pounds.

:facepalm

[GimmeThat]

all I see is Kevin Love throwing an off timing pass which forced Lebron to take one extra dribble

[JUDGE WITNESS]

:lol

lebron at 260 gets his head above rim level

imagine if he was a twig like jordan

[Elosha]

3Ball, why are you trying to tear down a nice dunk, and a great game from Lebron? I certainly agree that Jordan is a generally better leaper off two feet than Lebron, and an equivalent leaper off one foot, particularly when given the differences in their height. However, Lebron's had some nice dunks off two feet, it's not like he's a pathetic two foot jumper. In fact I'd say his two foot jump is at least 36-37 inches based on sometimes I've seen him a few inches below rim level when jumping off two feet. But generally, I agree he doesn't show a huge amount of explosiveness off two feet.

I like a lot of your arguments and insights, and firmly believe Jordan is the GOAT, (with the caveat that we can't watch nearly as many of the older greats to fully compare). However, when you're constantly trying to tear down Lebron in comparison to Jordan, it doesn't help your points, it only makes you look insecure. This is friendly advice, please take it as such.

[Elosha]

:lol

lebron at 260 gets his head above rim level

imagine if he was a twig like jordan

Then maybe Lebron would be as quick as Jordan with as lethal of a first step. But he's not 50 pounds lighter and he's not nearly as quick as Jordan, especially now. It's simply a trade off. If you are genetically designed to be built like a tank, you're going to have the advantages - and disadvantages - of being that big.

[Rameek]

Only VC rivals Jordan..... No one wants to be near LBJ when that freight truck is coming.

[Prometheus]

Only VC rivals Jordan..... No one wants to be near LBJ when that freight truck is coming.

:eek: omg I hate freight trucks.

[J Shuttlesworth]

:eek: omg I hate freight trucks.
:roll:

[Rameek]

:eek: omg I hate freight trucks.
http://www.freightquote.com/carrier/
http://cassidytransport.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/whitetruck.jpg

[Keno]

whatever it is you're looking at, lebron did it better.

[LBJ 23]

OP is ill in the head. Can't believe a person can be so obsessed.

[j3lademaster]

Jordan had a documented 48 inch vertical... i'll prove it to you in a sec..so, being 6'6 in shoes, mi could get the top of his head half a foot over the rim?

[3ball]

so, being 6'6 in shoes, mi could get the top of his head half a foot over the rim?
Yes, if he was in a test environment and not in a game or trying to contort his body for a dunk contest - indeed, Jordan had a documented 48" vertical:


Here's an article by Tim Grover where he documented Jordan's vertical at his sports academy... http://www.si.com/edge/2014/10/16/tim-grover-talent-isnt-enough


Here is a study done by researchers at UNC on Jordan's vertical... http://www.jospt.org/doi/pdf/10.2519/jospt.1999.29.1.A1



Also, in the first GIF from the OP, Jordan's head looks like it gets above the rim - i could probably pause it at the right time and jordan's head would be at the rim vs Nance...

here are photos of Jordan with his head over the rim:

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/12/16/ae/1216aedac0840356aee74ed3ec665aca.jpg
http://sports.mearsonlineauctions.com/ItemImages/000033/79c1d42e-a6c6-4207-adc6-d8b35af9ed25_lg.jpeg
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSP4VB6PPMQ1iuchVua-B0-Bt31IZxqt9qr_kJUWB-ASvtcj-DJ
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/umdatz/MJrimlevel_zps94088237.png
http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/7a0dfd2c3a222ad713c51357c3ed3316.jpeg
http://thebestten.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/michaeljordan1985.jpg?w=595&h=801
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/umdatz/MJEwing_zps36f2be72.jpg
http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/5c4e033c1a71be21c6ce27ed5a253d6f.jpeg

[oarabbus]

Yes, if he was in a test environment and not in a game or trying to contort his body for a dunk contest - indeed, Jordan had a documented 48" vertical:


Here's an article by Tim Grover where he documented Jordan's vertical at his sports academy... http://www.si.com/edge/2014/10/16/tim-grover-talent-isnt-enough


Here is a study done by researchers at UNC on Jordan's vertical... http://www.jospt.org/doi/pdf/10.2519/jospt.1999.29.1.A1



Also, in the first GIF from the OP, Jordan's head looks like it gets above the rim - i could probably pause it at the right time and jordan's head would be at the rim vs Nance...

here are photos of Jordan with his head over the rim:

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/12/16/ae/1216aedac0840356aee74ed3ec665aca.jpg
http://sports.mearsonlineauctions.com/ItemImages/000033/79c1d42e-a6c6-4207-adc6-d8b35af9ed25_lg.jpeg
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSP4VB6PPMQ1iuchVua-B0-Bt31IZxqt9qr_kJUWB-ASvtcj-DJ
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/umdatz/MJrimlevel_zps94088237.png
http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/7a0dfd2c3a222ad713c51357c3ed3316.jpeg
http://thebestten.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/michaeljordan1985.jpg?w=595&h=801
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/umdatz/MJEwing_zps36f2be72.jpg
http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/5c4e033c1a71be21c6ce27ed5a253d6f.jpeg

http://thebestten.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/michaeljordan1985.jpg

http://sports.mearsonlineauctions.com/ItemImages/000033/79c1d42e-a6c6-4207-adc6-d8b35af9ed25_lg.jpeg


:eek: wow Jordan's head is so far above the rim. Looks more like a 50-52" vert.

[Smook A.]

3ball HAS to be Bruce Blitz. Dude's wayyy too obsessed with Michael Jordan

[oarabbus]

3ball HAS to be Bruce Blitz. Dude's wayyy too obsessed with Michael Jordan

Dude even got into it with Kblaze.

3ball is to Jordan as Pauk is to LeBron as _____ is to Kobe as ____ is to Wilt



Fill in the blanks.

Second blank is Lazeruss, I think.

[Mr. Jabbar]

lebalds aesthetics are hard to watch, i can see why his fans prefer boxscores over footage

[Smook A.]

Dude even got into it with Kblaze.

3ball is to Jordan as Pauk is to LeBron as _____ is to Kobe as ____ is to Wilt



Fill in the blanks.

Second blank is Lazeruss, I think.
1. kennethgriffin
2. CavaliersFTW/Lazeruss

[3ball]

:eek: wow Jordan's head is so far above the rim.


and just imagine if he was in a test environment and didn't have to contort his body.

that's got to be worth a few inches at least.

[3ball]

Nobody has ever argued LeBron's anywhere close to being the 2 footed leaper MJ was.

i know, it's just funny to see another guy doing the jordan lean-in dunk so much worse... even kobe did it a lot better...


http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/Jordan_over_Wingate_23a229363a29a94ccb62cde8fb8b7a 57.gif


http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/Jordan_over_Orlando_Woolridge_2992ff3b66bec8217afc 9045864e3b42.gif


http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/fd492d8217834c70f155bb34f56caf77.gif


http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/Michael_Jordan_showing_the_of_ad54d908ed26a7b5c927 e16a93d1d5fd.gif

[3ball]

MJ's leaping ability by 30(1993) had seen a noticeable dip too.



are you trying to compare this lebron to pre-baseball Jordan?

the 1993, 30-year old jordan would thoroughly destroy this lebron.


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[Droid101]

Nobody looks good trying that dunk other than MJ and Vince Carter, period.

[Prometheus]

I love MJ, but in none of those photos is he any higher than eye-level with the rim. In every shot, the angle makes him look higher than he really was.

[3ball]

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MJ's Patented Lean-In Dunk


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[SugarHill]

eye-level would mean the top of his head is at least 4 inches over the rim, possibly 5 or 6 inches.

he's 6'6", and if the top of his head is 4 inches over the rim, that would mean it reached 10'4"... so just do the subtraction and you get 46 inch vertical.

and all those photos were either in-game or dunk contest environments where he was contorting his body and trying to dunk, as opposed to using optimal jumping form like he would in a testing environment to max his vertical.
Right and Gerald Green got way over the rim on an in game dunk. Jordan never came close. Deal with it.

[3ball]

Right and Gerald Green got way over the rim on an in game dunk. Jordan never came close. Deal with it.

why so sensitive.. :kobe:

[Rolando]

are you trying to compare this lebron to pre-baseball Jordan?

the 1993, 30-year old jordan would thoroughly destroy this lebron.

http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/20ab459e6e2ef3f920afaf4966eb826c.gif

How he finishes that dunk and lands.....That's just raw passion. Pure genuine rage and aggression.

[Lebron23]

LBJ 12 > Jordan 12.