Terrorist situation in Sydney right now

[eriX]

So I was about to head into the city and my friends told me that there's a guy inside a cafe holding people at gunpoint to hold a jihad flag on the window
http://m.smh.com.au/nsw/police-clear-martin-place-after-gunman-holds-hostages-at-lindt-chocolat-cafe-20141214-127824.touch.html

[tomtucker]

yes, we knew shit like this would happen sooner or later.........thanks for letting all those bastards into europe and australia........:mad: :banghead:

[sick_brah07]

if somebody dies

Australia will riot, it will be like cronella riots but worse

[SCdac]

jihadist/radical islamic attack on civilians in a cafe in australia? Ehh, I'm sure it's all an american/israeli conspiracy

/sarcasm

[SCdac]

on the real though, it's kinda weak for the media to be showing these folks faces. out of respect, maybe try to blur them? imagine seeing your friend or family member on tv :(

[JohnFreeman]

I smell riots

[ace23]

Why was the other thread deleted? Lol

[poido123]

I smell riots


Anyone who knows Sydney know exactly where these type of people are festering.

There are whole communities that are harboring and protecting these wacko individuals in Sydney and have been left alone because of our bleeding hearts and understanding.

Only that now they are popping their head up with the rise of the ISIS.

Riots of these vermin in Sydney from 2 years ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj4CQ0ekDHA



They are out there walking our streets, participating in protests, and outspoken in detesting western beliefs.

Why are they not facing charges of treason?

[plowking]

Any update on the situation so far?

And seriously? A chocolate shop? The one place you'd never think of.

[poido123]

Any update on the situation so far?

And seriously? A chocolate shop? The one place you'd never think of.


Possibly connected to Lindt's stand against Halal food.

what I've heard so far;

-Woman hostage pictured running her thumb accross her neck in a decapitation action.

-Captives holding Jihadist flags to the window

-Terrorists reported to have guns, explosives.

-Apparently 13 held hostage

[plowking]

Possibly connected to Lindt's stand against Halal food.

what I've heard so far;

-Woman hostage pictured running her thumb accross her neck in a decapitation action.

-Captives holding Jihadist flags to the window

-Terrorists reported to have guns, explosives.

-Apparently 13 held hostage

:facepalm

How many gunmen are there inside? What a f*cked up situation.

[poido123]

:facepalm

How many gunmen are there inside? What a f*cked up situation.


Suspecting there are 2 gunmen.

Get used to it, things like this will become more and more common.

We are only at the beginning.

[Im Still Ballin]

So glad I live in Perth...

Nothing ever ****ing happens in Perth

[KingBeasley08]

Damn that's horrifying. Good luck to the hostages, hope they got out of this safe

[outbreak]

Any update on the situation so far?

And seriously? A chocolate shop? The one place you'd never think of.

It's a chocolate shop/cafe and the building also has government offices above it and around it. Theres a bunch of rumours going around, some news outlets were claiming they have said 4 bombs are hidden around sydney. The latest police statement says to wait on official word before reporting things like that though. No one seems to even know the number of hostages, some sites say 13 while others are say as many as 50 people. Some are saying one gunman still other say two, some are saying a man was arrested nearby with a gun but others are saying it's un related. There was apparently raids on suspected terrorists this morning too so that may have prompted these guys to do this.

[Craven Morehead]

This is not going to end well.......

[poido123]

This is not going to end well.......


We cannot count on negotiating with these terrorists to save these hostages.

They are as good as f.cked right now.

The question is, can we get to them and kill them before they cause casualties.

[Cactus-Sack]

Why are they not facing charges of treason?

Because non of that is "treason"... :confusedshrug:

[poido123]

Because non of that is "treason"... :confusedshrug:


I'd consider outwardly condemning Western beliefs in formed protests, holding up terrorist flags as a form of treason.

What do you think of this situation cactus? Did you hear that the authorities have gone into Lakemba to question why these actions have taken place? Or Lakemba still that innocent place you claim it to be :oldlol:


I'd like to hear you show some sympathy towards these poor people taken hostage...

[Im Still Ballin]

In Perth we are getting a giant waterslide in the middle of the CBD

Meanwhile in Sydney...

[poido123]

In Perth we are getting a giant waterslide in the middle of the CBD

Meanwhile in Sydney...


Australian mentality is to bury their head in the sand if it doesn't directly affect them.

You guys in Perth will be pretty safe from all this for a while, but as the Muslim population grows in Australia, it will spread and more lone wolfs will commit terrorist acts.

Unfortunately, most action taken is reactionary outside of the terrorist units that directly deal with these groups.

Australians would rather wait until it happens to them before they take any useful action.

[poido123]

One of the terrorists reportedly holding a machete...

I think we all know where this goes...

:( Poor people, stay strong.

[plowking]

In Perth we are getting a giant waterslide in the middle of the CBD

Meanwhile in Sydney...

I thought you studied and lived in Brisbane bro? :oldlol:

[plowking]

One of the terrorists reportedly holding a machete...

I think we all know where this goes...

:( Poor people, stay strong.

I know this is probably the wrong place, and maybe insensitive, but wouldn't you rather run, scramble and struggle, then get shot instead, or even possibly surprise them and actually get away?

I can't imagine what they're going through, so, I'm not really in a position to sit here and act like something else would be a better idea, but I just can't imagine... yeah.

[poido123]

I know this is probably the wrong place, and maybe insensitive, but wouldn't you rather run, scramble and struggle, then get shot instead, or even possibly surprise them and actually get away?

I can't imagine what they're going through, so, I'm not really in a position to sit here and act like something else would be a better idea, but I just can't imagine... yeah.


Probably scared stiff.

The fear would be paralysing, but if you knew for sure they were cutting your head off, you'd be sure to try something.

I'd try and get a wink and gesture to run from everyone to all stand up and go.

Chances are the males are tied up. The women would feel helpless.

[outbreak]

Australian mentality is to bury their head in the sand if it doesn't directly affect them.

You guys in Perth will be pretty safe from all this for a while, but as the Muslim population grows in Australia, it will spread and more lone wolfs will commit terrorist acts.

Unfortunately, most action taken is reactionary outside of the terrorist units that directly deal with these groups.

Australians would rather wait until it happens to them before they take any useful action.

Not only are you a shit poster but turns out you are also a racist bigot. Good to know for future reference.

[KyrieTheFuture]

Probably scared stiff.

The fear would be paralysing, but if you knew for sure they were cutting your head off, you'd be sure to try something.

I'd try and get a wink and gesture to run from everyone to all stand up and go.

Chances are the males are tied up. The women would feel helpless.
:wtf:

[poido123]

Not only are you a shit poster but turns out you are also a racist bigot. Good to know for future reference.


Why is it that uneducated posters like you need to be told that Muslims are not a race?

If you are going to label and insult me, at least understand what you are insulting me with.

Not all Muslims are bad. Not all Muslims are committing terrorist acts. However, ISIS(flag shown in hostage pictures) are an Islamic group and there are people(like the terrorists in Sydney) who are making a bad name for their religion.

Sympathists like you are sitting uncomfortably right now. It is people like you who are protecting these troubled groups from being held accountable.

Please stay out of the way and allow bad people to be addressed accordingly?

Cheers.

BTW, how is your day going Jameer?

[poido123]

:wtf:


Logically, men would be tied up to avoid them trying anything.

Do I need to explain that?

[outbreak]

Why is it that uneducated posters like you need to be told that Muslims are not a race?

If you are going to label and insult me, at least understand what you are insulting me with.

Not all Muslims are bad. Not all Muslims are committing terrorist acts. However, ISIS(flag shown in hostage pictures) are an Islamic group and there are people(like the terrorists in Sydney) who are making a bad name for their religion.

Sympathists like you are sitting uncomfortably right now. It is people like you who are protecting these troubled groups from being held accountable.

Please stay out of the way and allow bad people to be addressed accordingly?

Cheers.

BTW, how is your day going Jameer?

I never said muslims are a race. Notice I also called you a bigot relating to these posts, I've read enough of your previous posts to know you are a racist and a misogynist as well. You know nothing about muslims and have likely never known any muslims personally so you should just shut the **** up for once and save us your retarded opinions. It's people like you who create the friction between different beliefs in the first place, rather than trying to work out differences you go around talking about curbing the entire mulism population and deporting people. You are a stain on insidehoops and a stain on the world. Go **** yourself with a chainsaw dickhead.

[plowking]

I never said muslims are a race. Notice I also called you a bigot relating to these posts, I've read enough of your previous posts to know you are a racist and a misogynist as well. You know nothing about muslims and have likely never known any muslims personally so you should just shut the **** up for once and save us your retarded opinions. It's people like you who create the friction between different beliefs in the first place, rather than trying to work out differences you go around talking about curbing the entire mulism population and deporting people. You are a stain on insidehoops and a stain on the world. Go **** yourself with a chainsaw dickhead.

I hardly ever agree with poido, and I wouldn't say I'm agreeing with him here either, but this post is just so full of shit...

[outbreak]

I hardly ever agree with poido, and I wouldn't say I'm agreeing with him here either, but this post is just so full of shit...

He posts so much offensive shit here that just gets a pass. It isn't just this thread here it's his history that I'm sick of.

[eriX]

Why is it that uneducated posters like you need to be told that Muslims are not a race?

If you are going to label and insult me, at least understand what you are insulting me with.

Not all Muslims are bad. Not all Muslims are committing terrorist acts. However, ISIS(flag shown in hostage pictures) are an Islamic group and there are people(like the terrorists in Sydney) who are making a bad name for their religion.

Sympathists like you are sitting uncomfortably right now. It is people like you who are protecting these troubled groups from being held accountable.

Please stay out of the way and allow bad people to be addressed accordingly?

Cheers.

BTW, how is your day going Jameer?

The Flag isn't a Isis flag it just says there's only one God, Allah and Muhammad is the messenger or something similar. Which is apparently just regular stuff. But from the multiple sources I've been following this suggests this guy is definitely amateur and the fact that he hasn't killed anyone suggests that this isn't the extremist group that is well planned.

Just a weird situation cause there's no demand really but no violence yet

[poido123]

I never said muslims are a race. Notice I also called you a bigot relating to these posts, I've read enough of your previous posts to know you are a racist and a misogynist as well. You know nothing about muslims and have likely never known any muslims personally so you should just shut the **** up for once and save us your retarded opinions. It's people like you who create the friction between different beliefs in the first place, rather than trying to work out differences you go around talking about curbing the entire mulism population and deporting people. You are a stain on insidehoops and a stain on the world. Go **** yourself with a chainsaw dickhead.


You called me a racist bigot based on what I've typed. The only connection to what I typed and a racist bigot was that I made reference to Muslims.

Stop talking out of your ass.

Create friction? Really?

In case you didn't notice, there are hostages held at gunpoint by ISLAMIC TERRORISTS. They connect their religious ideals to their violent actions and yet I'm not allowed to connect their religion to the actions? Have you seen other Western countries with the same issues no?

Deporting an entire Muslim population in Western countries is unrealistic and even though that may seem harsh, it has some merit. Here in Australia, Muslims bleed dry the welfare system and breed at a faster rate. Go look at the statistics if you don't believe me. The same people who will be out on the streets detesting Western culture and Western way of life.

I've lived in Muslim communities, areas which have Muslims. I know Sydney well, I suggest you go live in one and find out first hand because I can guarantee you have no clue and out of touch with what they think of us and our way of life.

[poido123]

The Flag isn't a Isis flag it just says there's only one God, Allah and Muhammad is the messenger or something similar. Which is apparently just regular stuff. But from the multiple sources I've been following this suggests this guy is definitely amateur and the fact that he hasn't killed anyone suggests that this isn't the extremist group that is well planned.

Just a weird situation cause there's no demand really but no violence yet


Like I've said, I believe it to be "lone wolves"

The thing is, the flag represents what most people identify with that flag to be ISIS.

I agree, doesn't come accross to be organised. However I'm sure there are clerics and connections who would of encouraged this type of thing from amateurs such as these individuals...

[poido123]

He posts so much offensive shit here that just gets a pass. It isn't just this thread here it's his history that I'm sick of.


Jameer, you have done far worse than anything I've done.

Stop.

[outbreak]

Jameer, you have done far worse than anything I've done.

Stop.
:facepalm

orlando fan = jameer

highly original come back.

I've never posted about deporting an entire group of people based on religion and your personal experiences, I've never posted about banning woman from certain jobs, I've never posted about woman being genetically inferior to men. Wake up and realise all the things you post about are issues with your own life experiences.

[poido123]

:facepalm

orlando fan = jameer

highly original come back.


Elfrid Payton was a favourite of his too.

You claim history of me and attack me from nowhere, something jameer would do.

I guessed Ariza4three and was right...:confusedshrug:


Anyways, heading off for work. Eat shit while I'm gone, ok?

[Mr. Jabbar]

any updates yet? one can only wish a sniper headshots the terrorist through the window and we get his brains splashed all over the place on live broadcast

[Patrick Chewing]

As Obama would say, "This is just an isolated domestic incident. Trayvon would have been my son."

[eriX]

Apparently people are coming out now safely

[LJJ]

The Flag isn't a Isis flag it just says there's only one God, Allah and Muhammad is the messenger or something similar. Which is apparently just regular stuff. But from the multiple sources I've been following this suggests this guy is definitely amateur and the fact that he hasn't killed anyone suggests that this isn't the extremist group that is well planned.

Just a weird situation cause there's no demand really but no violence yet

It's definitely a jihad/terrorist flag though.

[brandonislegend]

Apparently people are coming out now safely

Where are you getting updates?

[outbreak]

Apparently people are coming out now safely
3 people got out reporters are saying they escaped

[Ai2death]

They should just drop friggen bombs on these radical islamic jihads homes. Fvck them, makes me so angry.

[eriX]

Like jaydacris said, two more just got released.

I think the bomb threats are false tbh

[poido123]

So what's Left?

Either some hostages will be killed, all will be killed, the perpetrators will be killed or does anyone here really believe our negotiators will keep them all Alive?

This can't be a good ending surely...

[sweggeh]

The guy will be shot as soon as they get an opportunity. Dude is clearly mentally ill. Mentally ill guy + exposure to extremism is not a good combination. Not good at all.

[Dresta]

I never said muslims are a race. Notice I also called you a bigot relating to these posts, I've read enough of your previous posts to know you are a racist and a misogynist as well. You know nothing about muslims and have likely never known any muslims personally so you should just shut the **** up for once and save us your retarded opinions. It's people like you who create the friction between different beliefs in the first place, rather than trying to work out differences you go around talking about curbing the entire mulism population and deporting people. You are a stain on insidehoops and a stain on the world. Go **** yourself with a chainsaw dickhead.
Well, as someone who grew up in London, in an area with a high percentage of Muslims (i even lived with one who didn't drink or have sex at the age of 20), i can tell you you're full of shit. There are plenty of Muslims who are well assimilated, but also many who are not, and show little intent to adapt to a different culture. The uneducated Pakistani families have been a particular problem, and there were Pakistani gangs that went around slashing people for not being muslim (or at least threatening and telling to convert). Twice i've been accosted by Pakistani's threatening to cut my throat (one time apparently because i thought 'pakis were *******' or some shit). The guy i lived with, who at first was good natured, eventually started to say things related to his religion that were certainly far more repugnant than anything uttered in here by Poido. Do i need more non-bigot muslim credents? Well, my Aunt is married and has kids with a Tunisian, so i am related to Arabs. They are not practising Muslims, but have adopted some Islamic traditions. In fact, last time i was there, my Aunt got an inquiry as to my marital availability and whether i'd be open to conversion from the religious girl in the family. I also found it interesting that her husband complains about Islamic fanatics more often than me, and clearly knows more about them than i do. He told me Tunisians were so fed up with the Islamists that most wanted Ben Ali back (he was right) and also stressed from the start that all the opponents of the Assad regime were fanatics and why on earth we were supporting them (turned out to be right as well). You don't seem to understand that there is a huge fight going on in the Islamic world that is being exported to our shores. It is about time we stopped dithering around and finally decide to take a side and a stance - right now our policy is one massive contradiction.

The friction between belief systems doesn't need to be created when the beliefs of a high percentage of Muslims directly contradict many of the values of our cultures. Some degree of cultural homogeneity is and always has been necessary to maintain order in a democratic state. To deny this is to deny reality. To admit it is to accept that there is a saturation point when it comes to mass immigration, a point when things will start to unravel and so a need to discuss it without flinging the childish accusation of 'bigot' around. Remember, moralising is a perpetual recourse for the ignorant (not all of us can dedicate the time and effort needed to study and understand these things, but of course, even the most ignorant can incessantly moralise!).

A mass influx of people who have no awareness or care for a shared cultural history begins to undermine the system itself, and it's about time people acknowledge that this was an experiment of an unprecedented nature, and the consequences are further reaching that its proponents ever wanted to admit. What's worse, is these people fled their home countries due to their cultural backwardness (i.e. to find a better life) and now they are here it's all victim complexes and how oppressed they are, but not oppressed enough to go back to their native land, it seems. As i've said before: militant Islam has bonded with a kind of solipsistic juvenile delinquency to produce something pretty horrifying, and that isn't going away any time soon (it is going to get worse).

[poido123]

The guy will be shot as soon as they get an opportunity. Dude is clearly mentally ill. Mentally ill guy + exposure to extremism is not a good combination. Not good at all.


I'd argue that people develop a mental illness from practicing Islam and reading too much into the quran. :eek:

I think a lot of people are not mentally capable of handling a religion and remaining peaceful.

[poido123]

Well, as someone who grew up in London, in an area with a high percentage of Muslims (i even lived with one who didn't drink or have sex at the age of 20), i can tell you you're full of shit. There are plenty of Muslims who are well assimilated, but also many who are not, and show little intent to adapt to a different culture. The uneducated Pakistani families have been a particular problem, and there were Pakistani gangs that went around slashing people for not being muslim (or at least threatening and telling to convert). Twice i've been accosted by Pakistani's threatening to cut my throat (one time apparently because i thought 'pakis were *******' or some shit). The guy i lived with, who at first was good natured, eventually started to say things related to his religion that were certainly far more repugnant than anything uttered in here by Poido. Do i need more non-bigot muslim credents? Well, my Aunt is married and has kids with a Tunisian, so i am related to Arabs. They are not practising Muslims, but have adopted some Islamic traditions. In fact, last time i was there, my Aunt got an inquiry as to my marital availability and whether i'd be open to conversion from the religious girl in the family. I also found it interesting that her husband complains about Islamic fanatics more often than me, and clearly knows more about them than i do. He told me Tunisians were so fed up with the Islamists that most wanted Ben Ali back (he was right) and also stressed from the start that all the opponents of the Assad regime were fanatics and why on earth we were supporting them (turned out to be right as well). You don't seem to understand that there is a huge fight going on in the Islamic world that is being exported to our shores. It is about time we stopped dithering around and finally decide to take a side and a stance - right now our policy is one massive contradiction.

The friction between belief systems doesn't need to be created when the beliefs of a high percentage of Muslims directly contradict many of the values of our cultures. Some degree of cultural homogeneity is and always has been necessary to maintain order in a democratic state. To deny this is to deny reality. To admit it is to accept that there is a saturation point when it comes to mass immigration, a point when things will start to unravel and so a need to discuss it without flinging the childish accusation of 'bigot' around. Remember, moralising is a perpetual recourse for the ignorant (not all of us can dedicate the time and effort needed to study and understand these things, but of course, even the most ignorant can incessantly moralise!).

A mass influx of people who have no awareness or care for a shared cultural history begins to undermine the system itself, and it's about time people acknowledge that this was an experiment of an unprecedented nature, and the consequences are further reaching that its proponents ever wanted to admit. What's worse, is these people fled their home countries due to their cultural backwardness (i.e. to find a better life) and now they are here it's all victim complexes and how oppressed they are, but not oppressed enough to go back to their native land, it seems. As i've said before: militant Islam has bonded with a kind of solipsistic juvenile delinquency to produce something pretty horrifying, and that isn't going away any time soon (it is going to get worse).


Great post :applause:

You are a very intelligent guy. It's a shame that a lot of posters here don't appreciate the knowledge and insight you have on different things. I share a lot of your POVs which seem to be quite unpopular at times.

[sweggeh]

I'd argue that people develop a mental illness from practicing Islam and reading too much into the quran. :eek:

I think a lot of people are not mentally capable of handling a religion and remaining peaceful.

You still think this is about religion :oldlol:

This is political. The only ones being fooled are the idiots who are blowing themselves up. I wonder why the likes of Bin Laden didn't sacrifice themselves and instead convinced young and impressionable guys to commit atrocities by feeding them lies and taking advantage of their stupidity.

In fact, most high level terrorists value their lives so much they hide in caves for decades. If these virgins exist, why did Bin Laden and his comrades kill themselves?

Because its all bullshit, thats why. Divide and conquer is their tactic. People like you are even dumber cause you fall for it.

[LJJ]

The Islamic terrorist is posting videos of the hostages on youtube as we speak. New generation. Absolutely batshit insane.

[JohnFreeman]

Muslims will be in trouble if anything happens.

[LJJ]

Muslims will be in trouble if anything happens.

No bruh, you got your facts mixed up. The non-Muslims are the ones being rounded up and threatened with brutal death, the perpetrators are Muslim here, doing this in the name of Islam.

[alenleomessi]

The Islamic terrorist is posting videos of the hostages on youtube as we speak. New generation. Absolutely batshit insane.
link? i cant find anything

[LJJ]

You can check the recent liveleak.com videos if your curiousity gets the better of you. But bear in mind that attention to his creed is what he wants.

This is the one of the guys apparently, identified in one of the videos. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheikh_Haron

[Dresta]

You can check the recent liveleak.com videos if your curiousity gets the better of you. But bear in mind that attention to his creed is what he wants.

This is the one of the guys apparently, identified in one of the videos. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheikh_Haron

On the 15th of December, 2014, he became Australias biggest ****.


:roll:

[SCdac]

Police goin in now

[plowking]

Live ammunition apparently used.

There was a loud bang just then...

[plowking]

2 people out on stretchers... Hopefully everyone is okay.

[eriX]

Just watched the whole squad went in live... Damn I think there was a shot happened before they went in and that's why they went in. The guy is definitely dead or maimed severely

[CAAIDN]

Damn, 30 seconds of intense firing just now!

[eriX]

Another update from SMH reporter James Robertson, at the bottom of Mrrtin Place about 150 metres from the scene: "The exchange was started by three discrete bangs. The first brought about five people from the building. A space followed between the subsequent two and then a near-continuous volley rang out. Dozens of shots."

maybe those bangs were shots.

[eriX]

apparently there is two unconfirmed deaths, some have confirmed it and 3 in serious conditions.

[9erempiree]

Muslims?

[plowking]

apparently there is two unconfirmed deaths, some have confirmed it and 3 in serious conditions.

Where are you getting updates from?

[eriX]

Where are you getting updates from?

http://www.reddit.com/live/u2pwph99rvy6

and from there the livestream on abc cause i can't be bother sitting by the tv, but those sources aren't really reliable

[9erempiree]

Are they Moslems?

[KevinNYC]

maybe those bangs were shots.
How loud was it? Shots are not deafening, however flash-bang grenades are.

Used by SWAT teams to stun people. Very loud and Very bright. Disorientates you.

[dunksby]

Hoping everybody makes it out alive but the crazy guy.

[imdaman99]

No innocent people should ever be harmed, I don't care what religion you are. This is horrible. I hope for the best.

[StephHamann]

Man Haron Monis, 49, was known to police for some time before siege



Was on bail for more than 40 sexual offences ahead of February trial
Had posed as a spiritual healer in order to grope unsuspecting women
Was previously accused of being an accessory to murder of his ex-wife
Also given 300 hours community service for sending hate mail to the dead families of Australian soldiers killed fighting in Afghanistan


Nobody could have seen that coming. Good job police/state/law authority :applause:

[KevinNYC]

Australian news live blog (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-12-15/sydney-siege-hostages-cafe-martin-place-police-operation/5967232)

NSW Police have declared the siege at the Lindt cafe in Sydney's Martin Place over
Several hostages emerged from the cafe before police stormed the building
Loud explosions and yelling were heard when heavily armed police entered the cafe at about 2:00am (AEDT)
Paramedic teams were on the scene and rushed to treat hostages resuscitating one hostage
Man Haron Monis was identified as the hostage taker and held an unknown number of hostages in the cafe for more than 16 hours
Five hostages fled the building earlier on Monday
Monis is an Iranian cleric currently on bail for a string of violent offences including being an accessory to the murder of his wife

[eriX]

How loud was it? Shots are not deafening, however flash-bang grenades are.

Used by SWAT teams to stun people. Very loud and Very bright. Disorientates you.

There should be a video on youtube on when the squad breaks in if those were the bangs you are inquiring about. The ones I was talking about was the three or two bangs I heard on live TV when 6 hostages escaped before the squad went in.

On the reddit thread, one of the sources said that the gunman was moving hostages towards the back and a group made a break for it. Could be the reason why shots were fired inside when the gunman realized there was nothing he could do and started shooting at hostages. Hopefully I'm wrong but just now apparently a third death, unconfirmed obviously. There is going to be a police press conference at 5:00am here, still 20 minutes to go.

So it is confirmed the gunman is dead.

[tomtucker]

2 hostages dead.........:( :mad:

[9erempiree]

Nobody wants to answer the question so I had to search and indeed they are Muslims.:facepalm

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/79740000/jpg/_79740472_025127032-1.jpg

[poido123]

Man Haron Monis, 49, was known to police for some time before siege



Was on bail for more than 40 sexual offences ahead of February trial
Had posed as a spiritual healer in order to grope unsuspecting women
Was previously accused of being an accessory to murder of his ex-wife
Also given 300 hours community service for sending hate mail to the dead families of Australian soldiers killed fighting in Afghanistan


Nobody could have seen that coming. Good job police/state/law authority :applause:



Scares me to think what other refugees have made it here and slipped through the legal cracks.

Our law system is a joke. We are way too lenient on punishments.

Perhaps this might kickstart a shakeup in our immigration departments and crackdown on refugee filtering.

[wakencdukest]

Man Haron Monis, 49, was known to police for some time before siege



Was on bail for more than 40 sexual offences ahead of February trial
Had posed as a spiritual healer in order to grope unsuspecting women
Was previously accused of being an accessory to murder of his ex-wife
Also given 300 hours community service for sending hate mail to the dead families of Australian soldiers killed fighting in Afghanistan


Nobody could have seen that coming. Good job police/state/law authority :applause:




How was this piece of shit even walking around free? He should have been locked up or dead based on the charges he was looking at.

[ace23]

How was this piece of shit even walking around free? He should have been locked up or dead based on the charges he was looking at.
Not sure how Australian law works, but he didn't say he was convicted of anything other than the hatemail shit, and he did his time for that I assume.

[wakencdukest]

Not sure how Australian law works, but he didn't say he was convicted of anything other than the hatemail shit, and he did his time for that I assume.




40 sexual offenses should have kept him locked up until trial, Australian courts must be lenient.

[Cactus-Sack]

40 sexual offenses should have kept him locked up until trial, Australian courts must be lenient.

Only on kid fvckers.

[Im Still Ballin]

Lets hope this means I can go beat up the local immigrants

[Cactus-Sack]

Lets hope this means I can go beat up the local immigrants
#illridewithyou

[Im Still Ballin]

#illridewithyou
:roll:

[poido123]

#illridewithyou


:oldlol:

[pauk]

yes, we knew shit like this would happen sooner or later.........thanks for letting all those bastards into europe and australia........:mad: :banghead:

What do you mean? You didnt have any bastards before? Everything was kumbaya? No psychos at all? wowz

[tomtucker]

What do you mean? You didnt have any bastards before? Everything was kumbaya? No psychos at all? wowz

right, every country has enough criminals allready........no reason to open the boarders and let more shit in

[andremiller07]

The problem with Australia is they are non stop allowing the wrong people into the country, hard working people who legit apply get denied and scum who come here to live of welfare are getting let in none stop.

When you allow shit people into your country shit thing's occur, Australia only has itself to blame. TBH at this point it's simply to late anyway they have let to many of these types of people in and the number will grow.

[Dresta]

What do you mean? You didnt have any bastards before? Everything was kumbaya? No psychos at all? wowz
Well, perhaps not the United States, as it is a melting pot, that was always going to churn out more bastards and psychos than on average. The United Kingdom, on the other hand, was a much safer place a hundred years ago than today, despite there not being any regulation of firearms back then (or at least very limited), a far smaller police force, and far fewer laws in general.

Before implementing mass immigration and welfare state policies, the UK had a society largely founded on law and trust, rather than the petty regulation and micro-management of all segments of society (as is done today, either by the national government or the EU). Occupations like 'social-workers' (usually inept meddlers) didn't need to exist, as their functions were usually discharged as by-products of other functions, things that existed in a more personal realm, and didn't require the bludgeon of state interference to fix.

If you read a lot of 20th century English literature you will notice a a very clear picture of the country transforming, very quickly, and into something unrecognisable from what it once was. This is not an illusion, and can easily be achieved by massively altering the demographics of a population in a short period of time, which is what has happened. British society is more atomised than ever, and this only happens to have correlated with the (thoughtless) mass overturn of values in the 60s :rolleyes:.

Seriously, what historical example are you drawing on in thinking that mass immigration from alien (and conflicting) cultures doesn't have negative consequences? Without mass immigration and the welfare state (two policies which are harmful on their own, but when put together become idiotic beyond words) i don't think the language of politics would've change from an emphasis on responsibilities to rights (now people have a 'right' to everything - anyone who speaks like this clearly does not understand the concept of freedom). Mass immigration in the UK was carried out without the consent of the population at large, and generally against their wishes and interests - where are the 'rights' of British people? Where is their 'right' to self-determination?

[Nowitness]

Religion lol.

[tomtucker]

Religion lol.

there is nothing wrong with Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism

[Im Still Ballin]

Going to go find myself some arab kids to beat up tomorrow

Stay tuned!

[Nowitness]

nothing wrong with Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism

Well there is.

Islam is the biggest threat today. But every religion takes their turn being the most destructive. If we lived in the 1930s you'd have to say Catholicism was the most threatening and evil religion, considering its strident ties to Fascist regimes (Hitler/Mussolini/Franco) and role in the Jewish Shoa (Antisemitism was dogma until 1964).

Christianity we don't even need to comment on in this regard.

[Im Still Ballin]

I don't care who it is, or what religion they are...

If they look brown and from the sand dunes

They going down

Streuth

[9erempiree]

Muslims come in all shapes and sizes. They can be white, black and Asian. They are not just a bunch of dark dudes crawling in frolicking in the sand. This is what makes them so dangerous.

[Nowitness]

I don't care who it is, or what religion they are...

If they look brown and from the sand dunes

They going down

Streuth

You ever been to the UK? I see like 25 white Muslims P/D.

[Im Still Ballin]

You ever been to the UK? I see like 25 white Muslims P/D.
They bleach their skin?

Crazy

Like Michael Jackson

Stealth and dangerous

[9erempiree]

You ever been to the UK? I see like 25 white Muslims P/D.

They come in all shapes and sizes.