Is it legal to stick your elbow out to protect the ball?

[sammichoffate]

I see it almost every game, I would think that more offensive fouls would be called. I guess not though, maybe it's another tool to protect perimeter players? :confusedshrug:

[Im so nba'd out]

Of course its not allowed refs just bet on games so they don't call it

[Burgz V2]

you can't swing them, but if you have both hands on the ball most of the time it's legal. It depends on the context. Most of the time if you swing the ball away from the defender it looks less malicious. But some guys swing back and forth, that's definitely not legal, if you hit someone that's definitely a foul.

[Rake2204]

I think I'd need some sort of example for reference. Technically, an offensive player is entitled to his own space, and if he opts to hold the ball and pivot with his elbows at a certain angle, it's not necessarily illegal.

As Burgz stated though, if there's clear and obvious malicious intent, that's a no-go.

[sammichoffate]

I think I'd need some sort of example for reference. Technically, an offensive player is entitled to his own space, and if he opts to hold the ball and pivot with his elbows at a certain angle, it's not necessarily illegal.

As Burgz stated though, if there's clear and obvious malicious intent, that's a no-go.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBLcRQKsS6I

[Rake2204]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBLcRQKsS6IAt which point are we referencing? That play kind of looked like a lot of back-and-forth jostling between ballhandler and defender. For instance, it's Allen who reaches to grab initially - with Paul shrugging him off. Paul then creates space with a forearm, before Allen reaches again. Allen's then bodying Paul up on the drive, with at least one hand fully on Paul's body, before Paul makes up his own solution in lieu of a defensive foul call.

By the book, there were probably a few infractions that could have technically drawn a whistle there, including Allen grabbing a hold of Paul's arm as he tried to get open up top. Instead, it seemed to be one of those "Alright fellers, have at it" type of situations.

Kind of reminded me of when pick-up games are on game-point. The defender picks up the intensity, things get a little more physical, and in return, the offensive player doesn't want to be that guy who calls touch fouls, so he employs counter-tactics to account for the possible fouls being committed.

[kNIOKAS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBLcRQKsS6I
I was thinking more of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLcGlRw3JBw


Although Malone has the possession of the ball only when elbowing Nash, it seems.