Dwayne Wade is 33 and is sitting on 17,000 points

[BigBoss]

:roll:

[tpols]

Kobe three years older 32k:lol

[BigBoss]

"Prime Wade" is a myth. He had only 1 good superstar year

[navy]

He played in college for 3 years and has missed lots of games from injury.

[BigBoss]

He played in college for 3 years and has missed lots of games from injury.

No excuses

[Smoke117]

Nice bait thread...:rolleyes:

[BigBoss]

Nice bait thread...:rolleyes:

http://dunk360.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Kevin-Durant-Takes-Out-Dwyane-Wade-From-Top-10-List.jpg

[MastaKilla]

Nice bait thread...:rolleyes:

oh look who is talking bitch :roll: :roll:

[DonDadda59]

He's also sitting on a record that's 1 game under .500 while Bean... well...

[plowking]

He has also never shot under 40%.

[STATUTORY]

just another in the line of players compared to Kobe that never quite stacked up
AI, Vince, Tmac, Wade

footnotes in the Kobe era

[MastaKilla]

He's also sitting on a record that's 1 game under .500 while Bean... well...

because Kobe has a Chris Bosh caliber player on his team.. :rolleyes:

Wade's missed 7 games, switch Kobe and Wade and the HEAT are comfortably above .500

[HylianNightmare]

He still had a Damn great career

[STATUTORY]

He's also sitting on a record that's 1 game under .500 while Bean... well...

what was kobe doing when he was 33?

[plowking]

because Kobe has a Chris Bosh caliber player on his team.. :rolleyes:

Wade's missed 7 games, switch Kobe and Wade and the HEAT are comfortably above .500

They probably don't even win a game. The Heat's offense runs on high efficiency shots due to lack of rebounding. Kobe's 38% won't help.

[BigBoss]

He's also sitting on a record that's 1 game under .500 while Bean... well...

What does this thread have to do about Kobe? :roll:rent free

[nathanjizzle]

http://dunk360.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Kevin-Durant-Takes-Out-Dwyane-Wade-From-Top-10-List.jpg

"show me" who does durant think he is? wade has 3 championships and durant has 0 and is a beta on his team.

[DonDadda59]

because Kobe has a Chris Bosh caliber player on his team.. :rolleyes:

Wade's missed 7 games, switch Kobe and Wade and the HEAT are comfortably above .500

:oldlol:

Yeah that's what stopping the Heat from being comfortably above .500... 38%be chucking them out of games en route to 20+ point blowouts.

Wade on one leg>Bean.

Hell, Swaggy P this season>Bean.

Hey, why stop there? Pau Gasol this season>>>>>>>>Kobe.

[The_Yearning]

He played in college for 3 years and has missed lots of games from injury.

Michael Jordan played 3 years in college, retired twice, and also missed an entire season due to injury.

Get out with that weak shit.

[Smoke117]

http://dunk360.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Kevin-Durant-Takes-Out-Dwyane-Wade-From-Top-10-List.jpg


...and? I'm not a kobe or lebron stan...you can't upset me with nonsense. :kobe:

[MastaKilla]

:oldlol:

Yeah that's what stopping the Heat from being comfortably above .500... 38%be chucking them out of games en route to 20+ point blowouts.

Wade on one leg>Bean.

Hell, Swaggy P this season>Bean.

Hey, why stop there? Pau Gasol this season>>>>>>>>Kobe.

Kobe would actually be there to play, their supporting cast isn't even comparable, Bosh is an all star, who does Kobe have on that level?


Hell, Swaggy P this season>Bean.


Yeah because Nick Young scoring 10 less points on 2% better FG% while averaging 5 less assist per game is better..

:roll: :roll:

damn son, brining up Kobe in a Wade thread, Kobe stay on your mind

[plowking]

What does this thread have to do about Kobe? :roll:rent free

He was mentioned in the 2nd post by a Kobe fan.

How is 18,000 points, 3 championships, a finals MVP and a peak better than Kobe's something to laugh at?
If Bron hadn't choked hard, he would have 2 finals MVPs, and four championships. I'm pretty sure delusional Kobe fans had Kobe in the top 10 when he had less of a resume than that. :oldlol:

Go ahead and name me all the players that have at least 20000 points, 3 championships and a finals MVP.

[plowking]

Kobe would actually be there to play, their supporting cast isn't even comparable, Bosh is an all star, who does Kobe have on that level?




Kobe had Howard and Gasol and barely got into the playoffs. Only got in due to some dodgy ass officiating gifting them like 40 free throws in the 2nd half of a game. :oldlol:

[MastaKilla]

He was mentioned in the 2nd post by a Kobe fan.

How is 18,000 points, 3 championships, a finals MVP and a peak better than Kobe's something to laugh at?
If Bron hadn't choked hard, he would have 2 finals MVPs, and four championships. I'm pretty sure delusional Kobe fans had Kobe in the top 10 when he had less of a resume than that. :oldlol:

Go ahead and name me all the players that have at least 20000 points, 3 championships and a finals MVP.

whats that got to do with anything? Kobe wasn't mentioned in the OP now was he?

you just saw Kobe's name and got defensive and felt like you had to get some hate on

Kobe on the mind of these haters like crazy

[MastaKilla]

Kobe had Howard and Gasol and barely got into the playoffs. Only got in due to some dodgy ass officiating gifting them like 40 free throws in the 2nd half of a game. :oldlol:

Gasol missed 30 games

and what happened when that chucker Kobe who was holding Gasol and Dwight back got injured and missed the playoffs?

the lakers got swept and recieved their worst playoff loss in the history of the franchise..

haters stay taking L's

[DonDadda59]

Kobe would actually be there to play

That's the absolute worst case scenario for the Heat :oldlol:


Yeah because Nick Young scoring 10 less points on 2% better FG% while averaging 5 less assist per game is better..

What's the Lakers record with and without Swaggy this year? Who saved them against the Spurs? Can Kobe lead the Lakers to 27 wins this year like Swaggy did last season? :confusedshrug:

[Heavincent]

He's also sitting on a record that's 1 game under .500 while Bean... well...

You know what Kobe was doing at that age?

[plowking]

whats that got to do with anything? Kobe wasn't mentioned in the OP now was he?

you just saw Kobe's name and got defensive and felt like you had to get some hate on

Kobe on the mind of these haters like crazy

He was brought up in the 2nd post, hence he will be in the discussion. What is hard to understand?

Point is, he was brought up, by a Kobe fan. So naturally, as is mostly the case on here, a Kobe fan seeking attention and wanting Kobe to be talked about in a thread that has nothing to do with him.

[JohnMax]

ESPN just said "with that basket, Durant is the youngest player to 15,000 points"

[plowking]

You know what Kobe was doing at that age?

Losing in the playoffs.

[GrapeApe]

He's averaging 24ppg on 49% for his career. It doesn't take a math expert to figure out he's played significantly fewer minutes than Kobe. Hold that against if you want, that's fine, but this thread is stupid.

[Akhenaten]

Losing in the playoffs.


:roll:

swept and locked down by old azz Jkidd

[SouBeachTalents]

Lol, this thread's getting brought up now every time the Big 3 Heat are considered "stacked", especially if it's done by those in the thread ripping on Wade

[tpols]

He's also sitting on a record that's 1 game under .500 while Bean... well...
He's also played a much softer schedule with a better second option in Bosh... On top of missing a bunch of games due to injury (surprise surprise).

[Heavincent]

Losing in the playoffs.

OP is wrong. Wade is actually 32. Kobe was 32 when he led his team to his 5th title if I'm not mistaken.

And he's only in his 12th season. Kobe was the best player in the world in his 12th season while Wade has been on the decline since his 10th season or so.

There's a reason why Kobe has like 15K more career points than Wade...far superior prime and longevity.

[DonDadda59]

You know what Kobe was doing at that age?

Playing with a far better team and choking against the Thunder in the playoffs? :confusedshrug:

[Dresta]

"Prime Wade" is a myth. He had only 1 good superstar year
And look where he is on the playoff points list. Ahead of a 36 year old Dirk.

Didn't know aggregated regular season (i.e. second rate) points meant so much when appraising a player's career.

[MastaKilla]

Lol, this thread's getting brought up now every time the Big 3 Heat are considered "stacked", especially if it's done by those in the thread ripping on Wade

yeah lets get rid of this notion that a team with 3 all stars was stacked, the career point totals for one of those players is the nail in the coffin of that team being stacked for 4 years

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[plowking]

OP is wrong. Wade is actually 32. Kobe was 32 when he led his team to his 5th title if I'm not mistaken.

And he's only in his 12th season. Kobe was the best player in the world in his 12th season.

Nope.

And Kobe was in his 20's while in his 12th season, so irrelevant.

[MastaKilla]

Playing with a far better team and choking against the Thunder in the playoffs? :confusedshrug:

so averaging 31/5/3/2 is and dropping 42 of 55% in the deciding game is choking..

okay

[Heavincent]

Playing with a far better team and choking against the Thunder in the playoffs? :confusedshrug:

Nope, try again.

Kobe at age 32:

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2010/0618/nba_g_kbryant_sy_576.jpg

Kobe in his 12th season:

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3225/2510762273_f5e3a999fc.jpg

[Mr. I'm So Rad]

Why you hate Kobe so much Dada? He may be the one sponsoring the commercial you play an extra in someday.

[PJR]

OP is wrong. Wade is actually 32. Kobe was 32 when he led his team to his 5th title if I'm not mistaken.

You're mistaken.

This is what happened: http://youtu.be/sOaaO5rENns

[SamuraiSWISH]

"Prime Wade" is a myth. He had only 1 good superstar year
What?

2006
2007 (pre injury)
2009
2010
2011

Possibly even 2005.

[plowking]

Nope, try again.

Kobe at age 32:

http://mikesmitty214.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/broom3.jpg



Fixed.

[Heavincent]

You're mistaken.

Semantics. He turned 32 like 3 months after he won the title.

He was right around the same age Wade is now, and was a much better player obviously. 2011 Kobe was better too, and won 57 games in a brutal conference, and lost to the same team the Heatles did.

Are people seriously trying to act like Kobe didn't have a far more sustained prime than Wade?

[DonDadda59]

Nope, try again.

Kobe at age 32:


Stealing Pau's finals MVP :applause:


Kobe in his 12th season:


Stealing CP3's Regular Season MVP :applause:



so averaging 31/5/3/2 is and dropping 42 of 55% in the deciding game is choking..

okay

How soon they forget (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5yHsipowNw) :rolleyes:

[Heavincent]

Stealing Pau's finals MVP :applause:



Stealing CP3's Regular Season MVP :applause:



How soon they forget (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5yHsipowNw) :rolleyes:

Have you ever been rational about Kobe...like ever? His 2010 title run wasn't impressive?

Kobe was the clear cut winner of both of those awards. Implying that Chris Paul was better than peak Kobe is just :roll:

[Akhenaten]

OP is wrong. Wade is actually 32. Kobe was 32 when he

he was also 32 when he got Kate Fabered by Jkidd :oldlol:

[Droid101]

Plow, you're a good fan, but Wade's peak/prime/etc is nothing compared to Kobe's. stop.

[MastaKilla]

Stealing Pau's finals MVP :applause:



Stealing CP3's Regular Season MVP :applause:



How soon they forget (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5yHsipowNw) :rolleyes:

you reach so hard. last two games of that series Kobe had 38/8/5 and 42/5/2

that's not choking

[tpols]

Kibe rapes Wade's career guys... It Ain't close. Wade's like 8000 off Paul Pierce. We should be comparing them.

Both 1 fmvp, 0 mvps.

Let's get the comparison going!

Whose got Paul?

[Droid101]

Why you hate Kobe so much Dada? He may be the one sponsoring the commercial you play an extra in someday.
dada is a crybaby Jordan stan. That's why he hates Kobe/LeBron/anyone who beats any of Jordan's records.

[Heavincent]

you reach so hard. last two games of that series Kobe had 38/8/5 and 42/5/2

that's not choking

And lol at acting like Kobe didn't deserve the MVP in 08.

Kobe had his team at first place in the West WITHOUT Pau. The Lakers were rolling despite Luke Walton, Vladimir Radmanovic, and Kwame Brown being regular rotation players.

And I think it's safe to say he validated his MVP in the post season. Averaged 30/6/6 on 48% shooting with elite perimeter defense.

Kobe was widely regarded as the best player by far in 08. It was pretty much a consensus.

[oh the horror]

Meanwhile Durant hit 15,000 and in his 20s

[DonDadda59]

And I think it's safe to say he validated his MVP in the post season.

By choking in the finals? :yaohappy:


Plow, you're a good fan, but Wade's peak/prime/etc is nothing compared to Kobe's. stop.

Wade won a finals MVP with Shaq as his teammate. Bean never came close to doing that.

But lord did he try (and failed miserably) in '04.


dada is a crybaby Jordan stan. That's why he hates Kobe/LeBron/anyone who beats any of Jordan's records.

There's 3 Ds in Dadda, bruh.

3 Deez Nuts

[red1]

OP is 33 and is sitting on 0 nba points. I would take the 17k thank you very much

[MastaKilla]

By choking in the finals? :yaohappy:



Wade won a finals MVP with Shaq as his teammate. Bean never came close to doing that.

But lord did he try (and failed miserably) in '04.



There's 3 Ds in Dadda, bruh.

3 Deez Nuts

this is the equivalent of saying Kobe won 3 rings with Shaq, Lebron never came close to that


There's 3 Ds in Dadda

and you're just praying one is named Jordan

[Droid101]

and you're just praying one is named Jordan
#rekt

[Heavincent]

By choking in the finals? :yaohappy:


Averaged 30/6/6 on 48% shooting in the playoffs with elite perimeter defense. Ended up losing to one of the best teams of the decade.

Meanwhile, CP3 was sitting at home watching the best player on Earth light up the defending champs in the 08 WCF. Why was the "true" MVP sent home so much earlier? I guess early playoff exits are kind of the norm for Chris Paul though.

[DonDadda59]

this is the equivalent of saying Kobe won 3 rings with Shaq, Lebron never came close to that

It's literally not the equivalent of saying that. Literally.




and you're just praying one is named Jordan

Da Fuq? :confusedshrug:

[plowking]

Semantics. He turned 32 like 3 months after he won the title.

He was right around the same age Wade is now, and was a much better player obviously. 2011 Kobe was better too, and won 57 games in a brutal conference, and lost to the same team the Heatles did.

Are people seriously trying to act like Kobe didn't have a far more sustained prime than Wade?

Do you understand the word semantics? :oldlol:

Explain how it applies to this situation.

32 years old means 32 years old. There is no wiggle room there.

[HOoopCityJones]

At this rate he'll be passed up by the likes of Nick Young and Jamal Crawford.

[Heavincent]

Do you understand the word semantics? :oldlol:

Explain how it applies to this situation.

32 years old means 32 years old. There is no wiggle room there.

Yeah, those 3 months make such a massive difference.

[plowking]

At this rate he'll be passed up by the likes of Nick Young and Jamal Crawford.

There are 44 players with 20000 points or more.

Bird has just short of 22,000 in his career, and is considered top 5 by most. Most likely where Wade will end up.

[plowking]

Yeah, those 3 months make such a massive difference.

You're acting as if you're partially right. :oldlol:

He wasn't winning a championship at any point while being 32. :oldlol:

[dubeta]

Wade just might be the most overrated player of this era, was basically the 'Kobe Bryant' of his era.

Don't believe me?

- Get's drafted and soon starts his career with Shaq (Most Dominant Ever) whos able to carry him to rings early on

-Second Shaq leaves, misses the playoffs and has a bunch of mediocre 1st round losing seasons.

-Later, after constantly losing acquires a superstar forward in LeBron (Pau Gasol in Kobe's case) and said forward is able to carry him to a repeat championship, clearly the best player in those rings.


-Once said forward leaves, goes back to their rightful place in the lottery



I'm surprised noone can see the parallels, Wade is this generations Kobe:applause: (in a bad way)

[Heavincent]

You're acting as if you're partially right. :oldlol:

He wasn't winning a championship at any point while being 32. :oldlol:

You act like this takes away from my point. Kobe won the FMVP when he was right around Wade's current age. If you think a few months makes that much of a difference, then whatever.

[HOoopCityJones]

There are 44 players with 20000 points or more.

Bird has just short of 22,000 in his career, and is considered top 5 by most. Most likely where Wade will end up.

:biggums:

[red1]

:biggums:
is it really that hard to figure out that he means where he will end up IN POINTS? :oldlol: give the keyboard a rest son

[plowking]

You act like this takes away from my point. Kobe won the FMVP when he was right around Wade's current age. If you think a few months makes that much of a difference, then whatever.

I can say Wade won a championship at 32, since we're just talking about in the general area of age then. Why mention specifically if you can't stick to your argument? :oldlol:

[SouBeachTalents]

is it really that hard to figure out that he means where he will end up IN POINTS? :oldlol: give the keyboard a rest son

Lol, for him, it wouldn't surprise me

[Heavincent]

I can say Wade won a championship at 32, since we're just talking about in the general area of age then. Why mention specifically if you can't stick to your argument? :oldlol:

Go right ahead. 2012-13 Wade wasn't nearly as good as 2010 Kobe.

[chazzy]

There's 3 Ds in Dadda

and you're just praying one is named Jordan
:lol

[daprunus]

Splash Bandicoot

[R.I.P.]

:roll:

If the refs blew their whistles 2006 finals style, he

[AirFederer]

https://michaelscomments.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/goat-ears.jpg

[cltcfn2924]

He was mentioned in the 2nd post by a Kobe fan.

How is 18,000 points, 3 championships, a finals MVP and a peak better than Kobe's something to laugh at?
If Bron hadn't choked hard, he would have 2 finals MVPs, and four championships. I'm pretty sure delusional Kobe fans had Kobe in the top 10 when he had less of a resume than that. :oldlol:

Go ahead and name me all the players that have at least 20000 points, 3 championships and a finals MVP.


So, you want to put Wade in the same breath as Jabbar, Jordan, Bird and Havlicek? That is hysterical.

[La Frescobaldi]

just another in the line of players compared to Kobe that never quite stacked up
AI, Vince, Tmac, Wade

footnotes in the Duncan era

Correct

[Dresta]

Again, will all these mindless Kobe stans who have invaded this thread to hate on Wade (for what reason beats me, but really their Kobe-based insecurity complexes must make them attack other players using idiotic measurements), answer me the question of why aggregated second rate stats mean anything when it comes to differentiating the best basketball players ever from each other? It means almost nothing, so stop harping on about it as you are only showing yourselves to be childish fools revelling in large numbers. Children smh.

Look how many points Karl Malone has - wouldn't even consider the man one of the 15 best to ever play the game, might not even get top-20.

[dubeta]

I'm not even a Kobe stan and I admit Wade's overrated as f***

[plowking]

So, you want to put Wade in the same breath as Jabbar, Jordan, Bird and Havlicek? That is hysterical.

That is the company he is in? Well, that should tell you something about Wade, and how overrated he might be. Maybe he is underrated if anything.

[ILLsmak]

He still had a Damn great career

yea, WAde was a monster no doubt. People love to talk shit.

-Smak

[Akhenaten]

-Second Shaq leaves, misses the playoffs and has a bunch of mediocre 1st round losing seasons.




You are aware the Heat went to the second round of the playoffs in Wade's rookie season right?

Far as losing in the first round that has happened to players who are rated way above Wade on the all-time list (Jordan, Hakeem, Kobe etc), and in some cases missing the playoffs altogether consecutive years (Lebron etc.).

No matter how good a player is individually he has to have competent teammates to win in this league.

[Frozen1]

Kobe the third all time point leader carreer ppg: 25.5 ppg on 45%FG and 20 shots per game.

Wade the overrated 17000 point scorer at 33 career ppg: 24.2 ppg on 50%FG and 17 shots per game.

After all kobe isn't that much superior.
I thought for a 30k+ points player he would be around an average of 30ppg.

[ArbitraryWater]

Why you hate Kobe so much Dada? He may be the one sponsoring the commercial you play an extra in someday.

your love for KB is cringe stuff

[Papaya Petee]

He's at 18K right now not 17k and he's on pace to finish his career with about 22-23000 points. How is that in any way shape or form bad? He's missed a ton of time with injuries, otherwise he would be at about 26 PPG with 21K points right now.

It happens, it's not like Wade isn't one of the GOAT scorers for a guard. Crazy efficient as well.

[The Macho Man]

Shit talking about sports on the internet

U r all cool doods

[f0und]

I'm not even a Kobe stan and I admit Wade's overrated as f***

but you're still a brown stain.

[tpols]

Again, will all these mindless Kobe stans who have invaded this thread to hate on Wade (for what reason beats me, but really their Kobe-based insecurity complexes must make them attack other players using idiotic measurements), answer me the question of why aggregated second rate stats mean anything when it comes to differentiating the best basketball players ever from each other? It means almost nothing, so stop harping on about it as you are only showing yourselves to be childish fools revelling in large numbers. Children smh.

Look how many points Karl Malone has - wouldn't even consider the man one of the 15 best to ever play the game, might not even get top-20.

But what about the rest of the top scorers? Jordan, wilt, Shaq, Kareem? Seems like a list dominated by a lot of top 10 goat tier players. Coincidence?

You can pick any award or milestone and single out an anomaly.. Doesn't mean it's worthless. FMVP? Chauncey Billups has one and tony Parker was 25 seconds from two. MVP? Nash has double the amount Shaq has.. And so on and so forth. It all gets taken into account.

And Karl Malone had really really good teams around him and never won a title. If he had five!? :oldlol: he'd easily be a top 10 GOAT.

[cltcfn2924]

That is the company he is in? Well, that should tell you something about Wade, and how overrated he might be. Maybe he is underrated if anything.


Uhhm, he isn't in the same zip code.

[GrapeApe]

I'm curious where he ranks among players that have taken a comparable number of shots. There's likely very few players that have amassed Wade's point total on similar shot attempts, especially among guards.

[SouBeachTalents]

I'm curious where he ranks among players that have taken a comparable number of shots. There's likely very few players that have amassed Wade's point total on similar shot attempts, especially among guards.

For players who have taken the same amount of career shots as Wade or less, only Durant averages more ppg. The next player behind Wade was Billy Cunningham, who averaged over 3 less ppg

[GrapeApe]

For players who have taken the same amount of career shots as Wade or less, only Durant averages more ppg. The next player behind Wade was Billy Cunningham, who averaged over 3 less ppg

Much appreciated. That definitely puts things in perspective. More proof that Wade is one of the greatest scorers ever.

[Dresta]

But what about the rest of the top scorers? Jordan, wilt, Shaq, Kareem? Seems like a list dominated by a lot of top 10 goat tier players. Coincidence?

You can pick any award or milestone and single out an anomaly.. Doesn't mean it's worthless. FMVP? Chauncey Billups has one and tony Parker was 25 seconds from two. MVP? Nash has double the amount Shaq has.. And so on and so forth. It all gets taken into account.

And Karl Malone had really really good teams around him and never won a title. If he had five!? :oldlol: he'd easily be a top 10 GOAT.
Which is why this thread in picking out one stat and ridiculing it is retarded, and that's all i was saying really.

What made all those guys you mentioned top 10 players wasn't their regular season points scored. I don't think it's a good indicator, and on it's own, it's a pretty worthless indicator. MVP awards, likewise, shouldn't be held in that high regard (i don't change how I rate people based off the votes of others). If people had voted differently and given the award to Shaq in 05, or Kobe in 06, would it change how i view them or Nash? Not really, and why should it? Their performances won't have changed a bit, why should the votes of other people affect my own evaluation?

Titles and playoff performances are the two most important things for me (though they obviously need to be considered together).

[G0ATbe]

2nd greatest SG all time behind Lordbe:applause:

[The JKidd Kid]

Kobe three years older 32k:lol

... Kobe has played 7 more seasons than Wade. :facepalm

[VeeCee15]

All time scoring doesn't mean much.

Kobe Bryant --> 32000 points ---> 19 SEASONS
MJ ----> 32000 points ----> 14 SEASONS

KARL MALONE 2nd on all time scoring list...

it doens't mean jack

[gts]

All time scoring doesn't mean much.

Kobe Bryant --> 32000 points ---> 19 SEASONS
MJ ----> 32000 points ----> 14 SEASONS

KARL MALONE 2nd on all time scoring list...

it doens't mean jack

:lol I love how this gap keeps getting bigger

it's actually much closer to a 2 seasons total gap than it is 5