What should GS do about David Lee?

[fpliii]

What does he add to the team at this point? Doesn't he just take minutes away from guys you'd rather be on the court? Paying him too much to just give you depth, maybe they should move him while he still has value.

[Taller than CP3]

have him sit next to Bogut on the bench like they do every year

[AussieG]

When Grizzlies beat the Spurs in the first round, Rudy Gay was injured and you could say that they would have been better if he'd played. The next year he played and they lost to the Clippers and then he was traded.

Sometimes you are better off when certain players are injured. It's not because they are bad players, but more just because they don't fit in.

It remains to be seen if they will be better when Lee returns.

[All Net]

It's another option for them to go to. A good rebounder and scorer.they will bring him off the bench

[bdreason]

Our offense is designed for D. Lee. He's going to shine when he returns. People who act like we don't need him, don't know what they're talking about. Our front-court is thin, even with D. Lee... and Green and Speights have become massively overrated. People think Speights has looked good in our system? Just wait until D. Lee gets the offense run through him on the high post.

D. Lee will play Monday. He will most likely start, and I wouldn't doubt if he dropped 20/10/3 in his first game back.

[Ca$H]

Our offense is designed for D. Lee. He's going to shine when he returns. People who act like we don't need him, don't know what they're talking about. Our front-court is thin, even with D. Lee... and Green and Speights have become massively overrated. People think Speights has looked good in our system? Just wait until D. Lee gets the offense run through him on the high post.

D. Lee will play Monday. He will most likely start, and I wouldn't doubt if he dropped 20/10/3 in his first game back.

Draygod >>>>> Lee. Lee is liability on D while Draygod is a top 10 defender.

[stalkerforlife]

Having Lee can't hurt, at all. Why move him? He adds great depth to the bench. If they continue to start Draymond, that's fine.

Other teams would love to have Lee, i'm sure, but it doesn't help the Warriors to move a double double machine.

[T_L_P]

Healthy Bogut and injured Lee: WCF

Healthy Lee and injured Bogut: First round fodder.

A potential 20/10 guy with very little impact on the floor.

[SwishSquared]

Are there legit concerns about paying Draymond (likely) 8 figures while having Lee come off the bench for 1 more year at a huge salary? Ownership, I think, said they'd pay luxury tax for a contender but people keep bringing up that they don't want to pay both guys huge bucks.

Would Brookyln do a KG-Lee swap at the deadline? Works on the ESPN trade machine. KG would bring better D and most of Lee's offensive skills right?

[Heavincent]

Healthy Bogut and injured Lee: WCF

Healthy Lee and injured Bogut: First round fodder.

A potential 20/10 guy with very little impact on the floor.

When did the Warriors make the WCF?

[BasedTom]

Kevin Love syndrome....ISH stays irrationally hating on white players

dude's going to win a ring, and there's nothing the Black Panther contingent on ISH can do to stop it

[KyleKong]

Didn't Grantland come out with a chart showing that David Lee is statistically the worst defender in the NBA?

[T_L_P]

When did the Warriors make the WCF?

2014-15, with healthy Bogut.

4/4 in series predictions since joining ISH. You have no other choice but to take what I say as gospel.

[Brujesino]

Our offense is designed for D. Lee. He's going to shine when he returns. People who act like we don't need him, don't know what they're talking about. Our front-court is thin, even with D. Lee... and Green and Speights have become massively overrated. People think Speights has looked good in our system? Just wait until D. Lee gets the offense run through him on the high post.

D. Lee will play Monday. He will most likely start, and I wouldn't doubt if he dropped 20/10/3 in his first game back.

David Lee is absolutely going to start agreed, but at center though. Once Bogut comes back though he should come off the bench and take Speights minutes.
Hes going to be great for us and stupid ass people think hes unreliable because hes always injured? Hes been injured twice once two years ago in the playoffs against the nuggets and still played through it and now this year.

Ive also been thinking what if bogut just never gets healthy because honestly he never is. David Lee is going to be the one that gets traded because no one wants Boguts contract if he can never play. So I purpose a David Lee plus 1st round pick For Larry Sanders. Not sure if its just me and my dreams but thats a good trade, right?:oldlol:

[sfballa13]

David Lee, Harrison Barnes
for
Greg Monroe, Singler, Jerebko, Joel Anthony

Get rid of David Lee's contract and get a starting caliber C when Bogut gets injured in the playoffs

Singler, Jerebko, Anthony are more than capable role players off the bench and can be stapled there if Kerr doesnt want to play them

If i am Golden State I make certain that I have a quality C to fill in for Bogut bc we all know he is gonna be injured and their awesome season will go right down the toilet when that happens

[Genaro]

I would have to see how this works out but I know for a fact that teams need post scorers to win titles. Lee is the Warriors' best option for it.

[chocolatethunder]

Healthy Bogut and injured Lee: WCF

Healthy Lee and injured Bogut: First round fodder.

A potential 20/10 guy with very little impact on the floor.

ISH translation-he's a white player

[3peated]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ph7by9w


i just found lee's new home in brooklynn

[atljonesbro]

He'd be a great fit in Atlanta if we could get a decent deal. IDK what we'd trade though.

[Brujesino]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ph7by9w


i just found lee's new home in brooklynn
So basically we aint getting shit back

[3peated]

So basically we aint getting shit back

basically ur just getting a championship and saving money for next season.

[I<3NBA]

Trade him for a Center that would actually be on the floor. Bogut cannot be relied upon to be healthy. They need a Center badly. a defensive-minded Center.

[bizil]

Draymond is doing well no doubt. But ultimately, I see him as a starting SF in the L. I think he can be a 15 point-4 assist-7 rebound SF. He's playing often out of position at PF. That will be exposed in the playoffs. That's why Lee ultimately over time is a better fit at PF than Dray. Lee is a natural PF who is a 20-10 All Star PF. But Dray is not the long term answer at PF. If anything going forward, they need to decide between Dray and Barnes on who will be the SF of the future. Green has proven he's a legit starter in the league.

[JimmyMcAdocious]

I think Green benefits from the fact that he is playing PF. Saw the same thing with Barnes his rookie year when he had to play PF. I don't think he would look quite as effective in a traditional lineup (Steph/Klay/Green/Lee/Bogut). Less spacing, more capable defenders on the perimeter, etc...

[bizil]

I think Green benefits from the fact that he is playing PF. Saw the same thing with Barnes his rookie year when he had to play PF. I don't think he would look quite as effective in a traditional lineup (Steph/Klay/Green/Lee/Bogut). Less spacing, more capable defenders on the perimeter, etc...

But defensively in the playoffs, Dray is gonna get exposed by Blake, Davis, LaMarcus, Zach, Duncan, etc. Offensively sure he fits in well. And can defend some PF's effectively. But Randolph just exposed him the other night. Avery Johnson talked about this very thing the other night on EPSN. Dray is not like a peak Marion, Rodman, or Lebron that can that can play bigger than their height or size at the PF. I feel he will get exposed at the PF position in the playoffs.

Not saying Golden State couldn't go far in spite of that. But to say Dray is the future PF for Golden State, I would pump my brakes on that. Green and Barnes (especially Barnes) are best off at SF as their primary position in general. On many other teams, they would be mostly or even only SF's. They play PF in Golden State more often because of the makeup of the team. They have a lot of perimeter guys, so to get EVERYBODY on the floor, Dray and Barnes have to play PF more often.

[SugarHill]

2014-15, with healthy Bogut.

4/4 in series predictions since joining ISH. You have no other choice but to take what I say as gospel.
:bowdown:

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Green strikes me as a Diaw type player. You can plug him at the 3/4 and even 5 on occasion (which he was playing last night). You just can't do it against every team, however, with a good coach you can create a mismatch hell. Again, very much like how Pop was using Diaw the last couple seasons.

I agree that I wouldn't want him checking the Aldridge and Duncan players of the world. I actually think he plays pretty well against Blake, but that's probably just a matchup thing since Blake can get frustrated when you get physical.

imo all the pieces are already there. As long as Kerr can figure out how to use them and the pieces are willing to be flexible, there shouldn't be a problem. Go big when you have to go big, go small when you can create a mismatch, and what not. The only ones who should be starting all the time are Curry, Klay, and Bogut. Move in Barnes, Green, Lee, and Iguodala depending on the matchup.

That's just what I would do tho.

[ALBballer]

KG for Lee sounds like a decent deal.

[bizil]

Green strikes me as a Diaw type player. You can plug him at the 3/4 and even 5 on occasion (which he was playing last night). You just can't do it against every team, however, with a good coach you can create a mismatch hell. Again, very much like how Pop was using Diaw the last couple seasons.

I agree that I wouldn't want him checking the Aldridge and Duncan players of the world. I actually think he plays pretty well against Blake, but that's probably just a matchup thing since Blake can get frustrated when you get physical.

imo all the pieces are already there. As long as Kerr can figure out how to use them and the pieces are willing to be flexible, there shouldn't be a problem. Go big when you have to go big, go small when you can create a mismatch, and what not. The only ones who should be starting all the time are Curry, Klay, and Bogut. Move in Barnes, Green, Lee, and Iguodala depending on the matchup.

That's just what I would do tho.

Well said! Dray can create mismatches on the other end as well. And he does good at PF don't get me wrong. But many people say Dray should be the long term PF of Golden State. I just don't see that. But I agree with u and feel they for sure can mix and match depending on the lineup.

But when Dray becomes a free agent, will he be content to possibly be an off the bench utility guy? Or a guy who shuffles constantly between positions splitting minutes with Barnes and Iggy? He's proven that he can be a legit starter in the NBA for sure at this point. So it will be interesting to see what happens.

[Ca$H]

KG for Lee sounds like a decent deal.

Is KG still a good defender?

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Agreed. And that's where the Spurs mirroring (which I keep bringing up because Kerr is so obviously trying to emulate Pop) comes to play. They have players on their team that could be playing bigger roles on other teams. But they put aside their ego for the greater good--a championship.

Iguodala showed a lot by his willingness to come off the bench this season. Barnes did the same the season before. We will see what Lee's role will become once he gets back and, if it's lesser than he would like, if he's willing to accept the reduced role. Green in a similar situation, tho a different direction (Lee from a starter to lesser role, Green from a lesser role to potentially a big pay day and starting spot). If all these guys are willing to sacrifice, they have something potentially great.

Of course it's easier said than done. There's a reason why the Spurs are such an anomaly in today's game.

[morbius]

GSW should keep Lee till the end of the year, win the title and then trade him away as an expirer with championship experience. There is no valuable big they can get for him right now, let's not kid ourselves.

[chocolatethunder]

The best thing for them to do is nothing. keep him around for when they need him. it would be foolish to get rid of him.