Which team wins?

[hateraid]

Patrick Beverley
Jimmy Butler
Kawhi Leonard
Serge Ibaka
Joakim Noah

vs

Stephen Curry
James Harden
Carmelo Anthony
Blake Griffin
Al Jefferson

[hateraid]

Lol, I thought this would have had an immediate troll response at the very least.

This thread was supposed to illustrate a point....

[Budadiiii]

Scoring is the most important aspect of the game

Why Durant is easily the best player

[3peated]

are you high dude? this isn't obvious enough outside of defensive players vs offensive players.

[navy]

Team Offense rapes them.

[GimmeThat]

If you put those players together, playing for the first time. The longer it goes and where stamina comes in to play, the better the first team.

Until no one can launch or pass for another shot, then second team steals the deal.


My 2 cents

[imdaman99]

Offensive players will score on anyone. Great offense beats great defense.

Team 2 easily. Unless they play iso-Melo ball. Than I see an upset.

[Mass Debator]

That offensive team wins 10/10 times.

[3peated]

Patrick Beverley
Jimmy Butler
Kawhi Leonard
Serge Ibaka
Joakim Noah

vs

Stephen Curry
James Harden
Carmelo Anthony
Blake Griffin
Al Jefferson

1. PAtrick "over rated, dirty defensive player with a lot of energy" beverley cannot stop curry, and cannot create
2. butler vs harden would be a good match up, harden would still get his ft's and make shots, hes a very great shooter and isnt scared to take a contested shot. butler would get his too
3. melo lol, aint no body stopping melo but melo. kawhi isnt a great creator, he would have to play off making stops.
4. this would be decent but right now, blake is a beast. ibaka could possibly keep him shooting most the game and hope he shoots a low %, but its not a winning situation for him. ibaka has no offensive game no matter what playing beside 2 top 5 players may lead u to believe.
5. noah might actually win this contest, big al would most likely still get 15pts at least on him, noah would need to play like he did when rose was out and score decently.


easy win for the offense tho, easy easy win.

[I<3NBA]

Patrick Beverley
Jimmy Butler
Kawhi Leonard
Serge Ibaka
Joakim Noah

vs

Stephen Curry
James Harden
Carmelo Anthony
Blake Griffin
Al Jefferson

:wtf:

if you were at least half serious in your attempt, you would replace Ibaka with Taj Gibson and Noah with Marc Gasol. that team beats team offense in a 7 game series.

[hateraid]

:wtf:

if you were at least half serious in your attempt, you would replace Ibaka with Taj Gibson and Noah with Marc Gasol. that team beats team offense in a 7 game series.

The point of this thread was more the context then the actual match-ups.

It was to illustrate that ISH puts too much emphasis on defensive play and loves to chastise dominant offensive players who play mediocre on defense. In theory according to ISH team A should beat team B. Isn't Harden and Carmelo bums? Isn't Blake a soft power forward? Isn't Al Jefferson one dimensional?

I think the smarter posters got the context

[Marchesk]

Great offense beats great defense.

Is that why defense wins championships, the Seahawks beat down the record breaking Broncos in the SB, and the 2004 Pistons beat a Shaq and Kobe squad with two other HOFers?

Also, 60s Celtics.

[Marchesk]

How about we make Team A:

Gary Payton
Sidney Moncrief
Scottie Pippen
Dennis Rodman
Bill Russell

Now who wins?

[hateraid]

How about we make Team A:

Gary Payton
Sidney Moncrief
Scottie Pippen
Dennis Rodman
Bill Russell

Now who wins?

Vs

Magic Johnson
Kobe Bryant
Dominique Wilkins
Karl Malone
Shaquille O'Neal

let's get in on!

[atljonesbro]

People overemphasize defense because they think it makes them sound smarter seeing as it's less flashy and appealing. They feel like they are giving off the impression that they are seeing something that others aren't.

Defense is important, but offense beats defense most of the time. That's why most TS% are above 50%.

[I<3NBA]

The point of this thread was more the context then the actual match-ups.

It was to illustrate that ISH puts too much emphasis on defensive play and loves to chastise dominant offensive players who play mediocre on defense. In theory according to ISH team A should beat team B. Isn't Harden and Carmelo bums? Isn't Blake a soft power forward? Isn't Al Jefferson one dimensional?

I think the smarter posters got the context
Taj Gibson is more defensive than Ibaka (who can hit the midrange, and is therefore a more two-way player than Taj) likewise, Mar Gasol is DPOY. he is defense, not offense.

if you wanted to illustrate a point, you would have picked total one sided players for each side. not this shit where both teams have some players that are decent on the other side of play.

example:

Patrick Beverley
Tony Allen
Taj Gibson
Dennis Rodman
Ben Wallace

vs

Kevin Martin
Current Kobe
Carmelo Anthony
Kevin Love
Bargnani

[hateraid]

Taj Gibson is more defensive than Ibaka (who can hit the midrange, and is therefore a more two-way player than Taj) likewise, Mar Gasol is DPOY. he is defense, not offense.

if you wanted to illustrate a point, you would have picked total one sided players for each side. not this shit where both teams have some players that are decent on the other side of play.

example:

Patrick Beverley
Tony Allen
Taj Gibson
Dennis Rodman
Ben Wallace

vs

Kevin Martin
Current Kobe
Carmelo Anthony
Kevin Love
Bargnani
:facepalm
Sorry, your example is way worse to illustrate my point. It was illustrated to exemplify elite offensive skill and super stardom trumps superior defense.
The purpose was to overload the offensive side to show that defense gets overrated.
Your concern for the actual match-up itself shows you had no clue what the point was whuch is defense gets overrated on ISH.

[hateraid]

People overemphasize defense because they think it makes them sound smarter seeing as it's less flashy and appealing. They feel like they are giving off the impression that they are seeing something that others aren't.

Defense is important, but offense beats defense most of the time. That's why most TS% are above 50%.
:applause:

[tpols]

The point of this thread was more the context then the actual match-ups.

It was to illustrate that ISH puts too much emphasis on defensive play and loves to chastise dominant offensive players who play mediocre on defense. In theory according to ISH team A should beat team B. Isn't Harden and Carmelo bums? Isn't Blake a soft power forward? Isn't Al Jefferson one dimensional?

I think the smarter posters got the context

Idk man I'd take team A. There's just too much ball handling on team B. Most of them would be standing around watching while one star takes turns. It would be redundant.

Jimmy Butler and kawhi can create their own shot just fine.. Noah for passing and screen setting. Good spacing and two all star caliber big man who can definitely wipe the glass with blake/al Jeff. There's a reason the clips start a real long mobile defensive player in DeAndre next to Griffin.. He masks his deficiencies. There's zero rim protection on your offensive team.

I would bet on defensive team especially in a series