Youngest Person Ever Executed In The US Found Innocent

[sweggeh]

70 years after his death...

http://img-9gag-ftw.9cache.com/photo/a7KAzVb_700b.jpg

How do those pro-death sentence feel about this?

[Batz]

inb4 all the "he black so he was prolly gonna kill someone anyways" guys.

[9erempiree]

Who is this kid and what did he do?

[ArbitraryWater]

via 9gag... any source?

[Miss Bella]

via 9gag... any source?

http://www.wistv.com/story/27651255/george-stinney-14-year-old-convicted-of-44-murder-exonerated

Does not necessarily mean he was innocent, only that there was a lack of evidence s far as I can tell. But from what I can gather he confessed, and family members 70 years later is saying he was pressured by the cops so a judge exonerated him.

I don't know what to say about this.

[~primetime~]

That's horrible obviously but a lot has changed in 70 years

That is a long time ago, kid is wearing stripes.

[iTare]

did he died?

[Budadiiii]

did he died?
No, that's Nelson Mandela

[SugarHill]

http://www.wistv.com/story/27651255/george-stinney-14-year-old-convicted-of-44-murder-exonerated

Does not necessarily mean he was innocent, only that there was a lack of evidence s far as I can tell. But from what I can gather he confessed, and family members 70 years later is saying he was pressured by the cops so a judge exonerated him.

I don't know what to say about this.

There was no evidence period. :oldlol:

[jstern]

http://www.wistv.com/story/27651255/george-stinney-14-year-old-convicted-of-44-murder-exonerated

Does not necessarily mean he was innocent, only that there was a lack of evidence s far as I can tell. But from what I can gather he confessed, and family members 70 years later is saying he was pressured by the cops so a judge exonerated him.

I don't know what to say about this.

There were 2 different, probably forced confession.


But what I do remember about reading about this case a few years ago, was one of the quotes from a juror. It took like ten minutes to convict him, and the juror said that they would have convicted him sooner, but that they took a break for a soda pop. Something like that. Can you imagine if your life was in the hands of people like that?

Edit: I just read on Wikipedia: "The entire trial, including jury selection, took one day." Can you imagine that?

[Patrick Chewing]

He would have been Obama's son.



Wait....or would he have been his father?? :confusedshrug:

[Le Shaqtus]

Who is this kid and what did he do?

He didn't do anything.

[PleezeBelieve]

Let this thread be about how an Arab beheaded an innocent white 12 year old and this thread would be 10 pages in 1 hour

But when it comes to how American Whites have prosecuted innocent American Blacks for about 300 years, and no one cares.

Of course. How convienent

[GimmeThat]

this disproves evolution.

[sweggeh]

Let this thread be about how an Arab beheaded an innocent white 12 year old and this thread would be 10 pages in 1 hour

But when it comes to how American Whites have prosecuted innocent American Blacks for about 300 years, and no one cares.

Of course. How convienent

Yeah, its kinda sad. But black people should "get over it". :rolleyes:

[Ratnik]

If you are black, you are guilty. I thought this was common knowledge :rolleyes:

[MavsSuperFan]

70 years after his death...

http://img-9gag-ftw.9cache.com/photo/a7KAzVb_700b.jpg

How do those pro-death sentence feel about this?
Its tragic. I have a lot of problems with how the death penalty is carried out in practice. My version of the death penalty if I was an absolute ruler would be very different.

I have skimmed 1 article on this case. from what I gathered this kid was accused of killing 2 girls. The cops provided no evidence except the claimed that he confessed. His defense lawyer did not cross examine any of the cops and only allowed him to speak at his trial while offering no evidence.

Later the real killer on his death bead confessed right? The real killer was from a rich well connected family.

Its very tragic, and america during that era was excessively discriminatory against blacks. Lynchings during that era was common in the south.


Let this thread be about how an Arab beheaded an innocent white 12 year old and this thread would be 10 pages in 1 hour

But when it comes to how American Whites have prosecuted innocent American Blacks for about 300 years, and no one cares.

Of course. How convienent
I care. Personally I think a lot of these problems have been solved. There has been a lot of progress imo. Not saying its perfect but I think most of the problems poor black communities face are more a result of economic conditions than their skin color. pre-1980s I think it was more to do with their skin color.

[PleezeBelieve]

When the truth is ugly and obvious, make jokes :rolleyes:

[PleezeBelieve]

The problem is that American Blacks are not seen on equal status as American Whites by American Whites. So therefore any issues that soley pertain to them are undermined or reduced to cliche anecdotes responses

[brownmamba00]

Let this thread be about how an Arab beheaded an innocent white 12 year old and this thread would be 10 pages in 1 hour

But when it comes to how American Whites have prosecuted innocent American Blacks for about 300 years, and no one cares.

Of course. How convienent
qft

[MavsSuperFan]

this disproves evolution.
How so? Human tendency towards violence and protecting ones social group probably had a lot of evolutionary advantages.


Yeah, its kinda sad. But black people should "get over it". :rolleyes:
I would not tell you how to feel, and it doesnt really affect me, but not getting over it isnt going to help the black community.

1940s america is almost a totally different country for america today.
-racism, jim crow
-japanese internment camps
- etc

Just look at the way america waged war in 1940s compared today. today a US marine shoots civilians in Afghanistan and gets put on trial. in the 1940s the US ordered the fire bombing of Tokyo and Dresden.

[Budadiiii]

The problem is that American Blacks are not seen on equal status as American Whites by American Whites. So therefore any issues that soley pertain to them are undermined or reduced to cliche anecdotes responses
They're not seen as equal status because they aren't. What delusional fantasy land are you living in that makes a group of people equal to the next?

Blacks as a whole commit more crime! It's factual reality. They're not equal. Doesn't mean they're worse or better, they're just not equal

[Miss Bella]

There was no evidence period. :oldlol:

His confession?

[Im so nba'd out]

They're not seen as equal status because they aren't. What delusional fantasy land are you living in that makes a group of people equal to the next?

Blacks as a whole commit more crime! It's factual reality. They're not equal. Doesn't mean they're worse or better, they're just not equal
http://s10.postimg.org/cm79gxys9/sadlife.jpg

:lebronamazed:

fk'd up what happened to that kid tho

[PleezeBelieve]

How so? Human tendency towards violence and protecting ones social group probably had a lot of evolutionary advantages.


I would not tell you how to feel, and it doesnt really affect me, but not getting over it isnt going to help the black community.

1940s america is almost a totally different country for america today.
-racism, jim crow
-japanese internment camps
- etc

Just look at the way america waged war in 1940s compared today. today a US marine shoots civilians in Afghanistan and gets put on trial. in the 1940s the US ordered the fire bombing of Tokyo and Dresden.
It should affect you. American killing innocent Americans based on nothing.

That's the issue... race is hard to talk about because usually it resorts in cliche responses to absolve a crime against a group of people that will take centuries to recover from.

It's a very simple concept to grasp

[sweggeh]

http://s10.postimg.org/cm79gxys9/sadlife.jpg

:lebronamazed:

Dat ether

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Budadiiii]

Even my weak shit gets remembered. :oldlol:

Screenshotted immediately and saved to his computer. Definition of sad.

[dude77]

looks guilty

[Patrick Chewing]

Let this thread be about how an Arab beheaded an innocent white 12 year old and this thread would be 10 pages in 1 hour

But when it comes to how American Whites have prosecuted innocent American Blacks for about 300 years, and no one cares.

Of course. How convienent


This was a long time ago. Beheadings are happening now. Current events take precedence.

[sweggeh]

This was a long time ago. Beheadings are happening now. Current events take precedence.

Eric Garner was killed over 100 years ago.

Dumb ****.

[Patrick Chewing]

The problem is that American Blacks are not seen on equal status as American Whites by American Whites. So therefore any issues that soley pertain to them are undermined or reduced to cliche anecdotes responses


A fantastic and ridiculous claim. You'll always be left behind with that mentality if you think playing the victim card will get you any sympathy. And this is coming from a Latino with all the opportunities provided to him because he went out there and worked for it and didn't act like a thug or an idiot in the process.

[MavsSuperFan]

It should affect you. American killing innocent Americans based on nothing.

That's the issue... race is hard to talk about because usually it resorts in cliche responses to absolve a crime against a group of people that will take centuries to recover from.

It's a very simple concept to grasp
I meant if he didnt get over it. Not the part about the killing.

If you want to keep rehashing past grievances it fine that's anyone's right. I just dont see it as productive. Being bitter about anything, really only hurts ones self imo.


That's the issue... race is hard to talk about because usually it resorts in cliche responses to absolve a crime against a group of people that will take centuries to recover from.

How do you explain the highly successful black people in america today?

Obama
Holder
Rice
Oprah
etc.

I wouldnt try to absolve slavery or jim crow level racism. But imo most black people dont face that today. I have met many successful black people today. One of the best people I have ever worked for was a Kenyan Immigrant who came to this country and is now very successful.

No offense but the successful black people I have encountered in my personal life and also just in the media (not counting athletes, musicians and celebrities) come off as very positive people. its the same for any group of successful people really. i tend to think harping on negativity is counter productive, but if you want to that is your right.

America is still overall a great country, I claim this because we are a country that has net immigration. Failed countries typically have net emigration (more people leave than choose to come to that country)

People from around the world including africans choose to leave their countries of origin to come to america. its proof that american has advantages over those countries. People are logical, no one chooses to move to a worse situation.

Edit:
Further, very few americans choose to leave america. This includes african americans. For all of americas faults it doesnt seem to be bad enough to encourage people to abandon their lives to start new ones in other countries.

This is not true for many countries. Eg. Mexico, cuba, much of latin american, middle eastern countries, african countries, asian countries, eastern European countries, etc.

People vote with their feet. A country with net immigration really cant be that bad a country to live in. America has a huge surplus in people choosing to come live here and build lives when compared to the people that choose to leave.

[32jazz]

Odd how people claim Blacks should 'get over it' when it comes to Jim Crow Lynchings/ racism , slavery , etc.......but few would dare tell Jews to 'get over The Holocaust.


Slavery/JIM Crow -. -'Get over it'


Holocaust- 'Never forget'



I doubt if I'd ever hear someone in the mainstream say Jews should 'get over the Holocaust' . An event that did not take place in the US.

[sweggeh]

Odd how people claim Blacks should 'get over it' when it comes to Jim Crow Lynchings/ racism , slavery , etc.......but few would dare tell Jews to 'get over The Holocaust.


Slavery/JIM Crow -. -'Get over it'


Holocaust- 'Never forget'



I doubt if I'd ever hear someone in the mainstream say Jews should 'get over the Holocaust' . An event that did not take place in the US.

Exactly. Very well said.

[Budadiiii]

Odd how people claim Blacks should 'get over it' when it comes to Jim Crow Lynchings/ racism , slavery , etc.......but few would dare tell Jews to 'get over The Holocaust.


Slavery/JIM Crow -. -'Get over it'


Holocaust- 'Never forget'



I doubt if I'd ever hear someone in the mainstream say Jews should 'get over the Holocaust' . An event that did not take place in the US.
Jews don't blame people for what happened decades ago and use it as an excuse for why they fail.

[sweggeh]

Jews don't blame people for what happened decades ago and use it as an excuse for why they fail.

You're white and you are still failing. God damn.

[MavsSuperFan]

Odd how people claim Blacks should 'get over it' when it comes to Jim Crow Lynchings/ racism , slavery , etc.......but few would dare tell Jews to 'get over The Holocaust.


Slavery/JIM Crow -. -'Get over it'


Holocaust- 'Never forget'



I doubt if I'd ever hear someone in the mainstream say Jews should 'get over the Holocaust' . An event that did not take place in the US.
To me getting over something doesnt mean to forget it.

Slavery and Jim Crow should never be forgotten. I personally enjoy learning about the history of this country and feel all americans should.

Getting over something to me means to stop being bitter about something. Maybe I am wrong but i get the impression some black people really focus on past grievances and this holds them back.

In regards to jewish people, I would feel the same way to any jews still salty at modern germany. Modern Germany is different from nazi germany and modern american is imo different from jim crow era america.

Remembrance is fine, and even bitterness. (I mean its a free country feel how you want to feel) I just think bitterness is counterproductive

Real question: If america is still as racist today as jim crow era then how did Obama get elected to the presidency?

[sweggeh]

To me getting over something doesnt mean to forget it.

Slavery and Jim Crow should never be forgotten. I personally enjoy learning about the history of this country and feel all americans should.

Getting over something to me means to stop being bitter about something. Maybe I am wrong but i get the impression some black people really focus on past grievances and this holds them back.

In regards to jewish people, I would feel the same way to any jews still salty at modern germany. Modern Germany is different from nazi germany and modern american is imo different from jim crow era america.

Remembrance is fine, and even bitterness. (I mean its a free country feel how you want to feel) I just think bitterness is counterproductive

Real question: If america is still as racist today as jim crow era then how did Obama get elected to the presidency?

Obama don't mean shit to be honest. The average black man is still disadvantaged. A black man could be queen and it wouldn't really change that fact.

[longtime lurker]

Odd how people claim Blacks should 'get over it' when it comes to Jim Crow Lynchings/ racism , slavery , etc.......but few would dare tell Jews to 'get over The Holocaust.


Slavery/JIM Crow -. -'Get over it'


Holocaust- 'Never forget'



I doubt if I'd ever hear someone in the mainstream say Jews should 'get over the Holocaust' . An event that did not take place in the US.

You can't try to reason with unreasonable people. You got people out here that still can't get over the fact that they were on the losing side of the civil war :lol

[Patrick Chewing]

Jews don't blame people for what happened decades ago and use it as an excuse for why they fail.


Haha burned. Good one.

[32jazz]

To me getting over something doesnt mean to forget it.

Slavery and Jim Crow should never be forgotten. I personally enjoy learning about the history of this country and feel all americans should.

Getting over something to me means to stop being bitter about something. Maybe I am wrong but i get the impression some black people really focus on past grievances and this holds them back.

In regards to jewish people, I would feel the same way to any jews still salty at modern germany. Modern Germany is different from nazi germany and modern american is imo different from jim crow era america.

Remembrance is fine, and even bitterness. (I mean its a free country feel how you want to feel) I just think bitterness is counterproductive

Real question: If america is still as racist today as jim crow era then how did Obama get elected to the presidency?


You do know that Germany is still paying BILLIONS in reparations to Israel & Jews so they still seem bitter or feel they deserve something ?
What was so 'bitter' about posting this tragic story? It's a very interesting story from our past that we should 'never forget'-


It seems to Whites just mentioning past atrocities committed against Blacks is being 'bitter' . Its history & should not forgotten, but many seem to wanted run away(Mavsfan seem reasonable so I wasn't specifically attacking you).

History is only a reminder if why we are today & hopefully if we learn from it & it doesn't happen again.

[MavsSuperFan]

Obama don't mean shit to be honest. The average black man is still disadvantaged. A black man could be queen and it wouldn't really change that fact.
Obama proves that the majority of this country was willing to vote a black man into the highest office.

I dont think everyone that voted against him did it because he was black either.

If you absolutely hate black people and think they are inferior I dont see how you could vote for Obama (a black man) for president.

Being president is the result of winning an election which imo is basically a popularity contest. Obama won by a landslide in terms of electoral votes and won by decent margins (by US standards) in terms of the popular vote. Honestly neither the 2008 or 2012 contest was even competitive.

Before the 2012 election I posted about How easily obama was going to win.

Black people are only about 12.7% of the american population. Even if you get 100% of eligible black voters would would still get blown out without getting support from other groups.

[sweggeh]

Obama proves that the majority of this country was willing to vote a black man into the highest office.

I dont think everyone that voted against him did it because he was black either.

If you absolutely hate black people and think they are inferior I dont see how you could vote for Obama (a black man) for president.

Being president is the result of winning an election which imo is basically a popularity contest. Obama won by a landslide in terms of electoral votes and won by decent margins (by US standards) in terms of the popular vote. Honestly neither the 2008 or 2012 contest was even competitive.

Before the 2012 election I posted about How easily obama was going to win.

Black people are only about 12.7% of the american population. Even if you get 100% of eligible black voters would would still get blown out without getting support from other groups.

I don't know what it is like living in America, but if you go to certain towns and places in the UK as a black man, you will get some very strange looks and most likely be the victim of racism. Its still very apparent and out there.

[32jazz]

Jews don't blame people for what happened decades ago and use it as an excuse for why they fail.

That's why Israel & those of the Jewish faith still demand (& get) billions in reparations from countries like Germany?

You cannot criticize Israel without being accused of being an 'anti Semite' who wants to see 'another holicaust'.


Netanyahu was just complaining recently about how Europe has forgotten the atrocities of the Holocaust because they refuse to walk lock step with his little Apartheid state.


Holocaust-"Never forget'.(although it didn't happen in America)


Slavery /Jim Crow- "get over it'.

[MavsSuperFan]

You do know that Germany is still paying BILLIONS in reparations to Israel & Jews so they still seem bitter or feel they deserve something ?
What was so 'bitter' about posting this tragic story? It's a very interesting story from our past that we should 'never forget'-


It seems to Whites just mentioning past atrocities committed against Blacks is being 'bitter' . Its history & should not forgotten, but many seem to wanted run away(Mavsfan seem reasonable so I wasn't specifically attacking you).

History is only a reminder if why we are today & hopefully if we learn from it & it doesn't happen again.
Im not referring to this. Just people online who say stuff like "america is still as racist as it every was, it just hides it better"

To me that is illogical and bitter.:confusedshrug:


It seems to Whites just mentioning past atrocities committed against Blacks is being 'bitter' . Its history & should not forgotten, but many seem to wanted run away

absolutely people should learn more about history. This case was just one of the many examples of injustices on 1940s america. I mean at least they bothered to have a show trial. In a lot of cases blacks were just killed by mobs. (lynchings).

I would honestly appreciate some concrete examples from black posters about racism they face in their daily lives (not internet related). Is racism really the primary thing holding you back from accomplishing your goals in 2014? (for me personally If I am being honest my primary block is procrastination)

I honestly dont think it would be for most black people today. While I do believe it was in earlier periods of american history. Racism was imo a huge factor until at least the 1980s.

[MavsSuperFan]

That's why Israel & those of the Jewish faith still demand (& get) billions in reparations from countries like Germany?

You cannot criticize Israel without being accused of being an 'anti Semite' who wants to see 'another holicaust'.


Netanyahu was just complaining recently about how Europe has forgotten the atrocities of the Holocaust because they refuse to walk lock step with his little Apartheid state.


Holocaust-"Never forget'.(although it didn't happen in America)


Slavery /Jim Crow- "get over it'.
the palestinians have more than 50% of the fault in there not being a 2 state solution, IMO.

As horrible as netanyahu is, he is the result of the Palestinians constantly politically castrating the israeli political left throughout the 90s.

Eg. peace deal followed by terrorist attack.

at a certain point guys like rabin, Shimon Peres and Ehud Barak look like fools.

Though if we get into this debate jeff will delete this thread :lol

[Lebron23]

He might be the jameerfear of his era. Wrongfully hated, Wrongfully accused.

[oh the horror]

Im not referring to this. Just people online who say stuff like "america is still as racist as it every was, it just hides it better"

To me that is illogical and bitter




Ever been made to feel like you're inferior because of your ethnicity?


I live in Southern California. Not Alabama dude. It's still out there. As illogical as you want to think that is.


It's so deeply engrained into the psyche of this country that it's not obvious unless you pay attention.



It's of course not as bad as 1940 America but it's a pathological struggle even today.

[oarabbus]

Im not referring to this. Just people online who say stuff like "america is still as racist as it every was, it just hides it better"

To me that is illogical and bitter.:confusedshrug:





I don't quite understand. Are you trying to argue that ugly, deep-seated racism does not exist in America today?

[MavsSuperFan]

I don't quite understand. Are you trying to argue that ugly, deep-seated racism does not exist in America today?
No of course it exists. Its a country of 330+ million people there are people that believe lizard men rule washington. Racism is inevitable. There are cases where black people still get randomly lynched today. Some years a go these white teens ran over a black guy with a truck for no reason, except he was black.

Neo Nazis exist, etc.

I am arguing it doesnt exist in enough abundance where it would be the main factor in a non-white person failing in the vast majority of cases imo.

At one time deep seated racism was a big enough factor that all other factors were rendered useless. Eg. pre 1980s america under no circumstances would have elected a black president.

I still havent seen people give specific examples of their race holding them back.

Eg. This bank manager saw I was black and refused to loan me money, etc.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Ever been made to feel like you're inferior because of your ethnicity?


I live in Southern California. Not Alabama dude. It's still out there. As illogical as you want to think that is.


It's so deeply engrained into the psyche of this country that it's not obvious unless you pay attention.



It's of course not as bad as 1940 America but it's a pathological struggle even today.

I also live in SoCal and can confirm this is bullshyt. I live in the heart of Los Angeles, and deal with all different kinds of people/races. On the daily. People don't "talk" about it nor is it even brought up unless something BLATANT occurs, ie. the Rodney King incident.

The individuals who still cry "racist!!" have either deep seeded issues (see: the religious and protester fanatics around Venice beach -- they're all filled with bitterness and hate), or simply just confuse class with race.

Generally speaking, LA is made up of multicultural minorities. LAPD for example (since everyone is talking about "racist white cops") are actually 34.9% white, 43.6% Hispanic/Latino, and 11.6% black -- just some food for thought.

[MavsSuperFan]

Ever been made to feel like you're inferior because of your ethnicity?


I live in Southern California. Not Alabama dude. It's still out there. As illogical as you want to think that is.


It's so deeply engrained into the psyche of this country that it's not obvious unless you pay attention.



It's of course not as bad as 1940 America but it's a pathological struggle even today.
I would really appreciate examples.

Also sometimes on the basketball court :lol

[iamgine]

How do those pro-death sentence feel about this?
Feels okay since no one expect all sentences to be 100% accurate.

[UK2K]

Ever been made to feel like you're inferior because of your ethnicity?


I live in Southern California. Not Alabama dude. It's still out there. As illogical as you want to think that is.


It's so deeply engrained into the psyche of this country that it's not obvious unless you pay attention.



It's of course not as bad as 1940 America but it's a pathological struggle even today.

Or set off to look for it.

[fiddy]

good riddance regardless