Josh Childress is currently tearing up the NBL (Aus league)

[Aidz]

In case anyone cared, which I know you don't (even I don't). But just as a piece of trivia, Childress is leading the Australian league in points, rebounds AND blocks.

22.1 ppg (#1)
10.8 rpg (#1)
2.4 bpg (#1)
4.5 apg (#3)

This is pretty sad.

A 6'8 small forward.:coleman:

[sammichoffate]

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I can see why.

[Im Still Ballin]

Ennis was better

Robbed of the MVP

Won a championship

[outbreak]

The nbl isn't very good quality.

[josh99]

The nbl isn't very good quality.
This, plus Childress was actually a pretty good player back in his Atlanta days.

[plowking]

The nbl isn't very good quality.

Yes it is.

If you compare the amount that go over to the Chinese league, and people talk about that, yet our league is better than the Chinese league.

[HylianNightmare]

No surprise he was decent in the nba

[BuffaloBill]

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I guess the sideshow bob look is in nowadays. So many guys rocking this style

[outbreak]

Yes it is.

If you compare the amount that go over to the Chinese league, and people talk about that, yet our league is better than the Chinese league.

People talk about the chinese league because there's ex NBA stars there. I agree it's less competitive but it has more money thrown around and a bigger audience. The NBL is still below most of the european leagues and well below the top european leagues.

[coin24]

Nbl is garbage, i wouldn't watch that shit if you paid me

[chocolatethunder]

Yes it is.

If you compare the amount that go over to the Chinese league, and people talk about that, yet our league is better than the Chinese league.
While the NBL isn't a shit league, the best NBL team would get crushed in Euroleague. The best NBL teams could play in European B leagues. That's not awful.

[masonanddixon]

I was watching Melbourne vs Adelaide NBL last weekend. I think a halfway decent HS team in America would crush them.

[plowking]

While the NBL isn't a shit league, the best NBL team would get crushed in Euroleague. The best NBL teams could play in European B leagues. That's not awful.

Absolutely agree. But other posters were making it sound as if it was flat out terrible. It really isn't. I don't particularly like watching it either, but it really isn't bad basketball.



I was watching Melbourne vs Adelaide NBL last weekend. I think a halfway decent HS team in America would crush them.

Well... another dumb comment from you. Not surprising.
College teams have actually toured around Australia and gotten convincingly beat by some of our NBL teams. I remember I actually went to Gold Coast vs St Mary's, and Gold Coast absolutely crushed them. Far too physical for them.

[Sharmer]

Childress was decent in Atlanta and plus a lot of Australian talent is overseas.

[bluechox2]

He'd drop 40 in euroleague

[Collie]

Moving from the NBA to the Euroleague was an incredibly stupid move for Childress. He was actually a very effective player in Atlanta, moved to the EL and was never the same.

[masonanddixon]

Absolutely agree. But other posters were making it sound as if it was flat out terrible. It really isn't. I don't particularly like watching it either, but it really isn't bad basketball.




Well... another dumb comment from you. Not surprising.
College teams have actually toured around Australia and gotten convincingly beat by some of our NBL teams. I remember I actually went to Gold Coast vs St Mary's, and Gold Coast absolutely crushed them. Far too physical for them.

wow, powerhouse ST MARYS. Did the best team in the NBL also feast on some other DIII US squads?

[chocolatethunder]

Absolutely agree. But other posters were making it sound as if it was flat out terrible. It really isn't. I don't particularly like watching it either, but it really isn't bad basketball.




Well... another dumb comment from you. Not surprising.
College teams have actually toured around Australia and gotten convincingly beat by some of our NBL teams. I remember I actually went to Gold Coast vs St Mary's, and Gold Coast absolutely crushed them. Far too physical for them.
I want to be clear that European B leagues are decent basketball league but they aren't rife with NBA level talent by any stretch of the imagination. The problem with any of the decent leagues isn't the quality of the basketball being played (in terms of execution etc) it's the quality of the talent. The talent level is far below NBA. The best Euro B league teams' talent level isn't that far below a decent A league Euro team but it is still far away from the best A league team. For example, a friend of mine played in the Spanish B league and won the Championship so his team moved up to the A league. In the A league I think they won 5 games. They just didn't have the personnel. He was/is an a league player but there weren't enough players like him on his team.

As far as the NBL and a college basketball team, I think that most DI major programs would embarrass an NBL team. Sure an NBL squad could beat a DIII team (most DIII teams have no one over 6'8" it's kind of like a really good high school team) and the best DII schools would be tough to beat. The DI schools especially ones in the top 20 would be very tough to beat. Again, because they just don't have the players.

That being said while the NBL is definitely below Euroleague teams it is not as bad as English league or Germany, Finland, Iceland etc.

[Andrew Wiggins]

I want to be clear that European B leagues are decent basketball league but they aren't rife with NBA level talent by any stretch of the imagination. The problem with any of the decent leagues isn't the quality of the basketball being played (in terms of execution etc) it's the quality of the talent. The talent level is far below NBA. The best Euro B league teams' talent level isn't that far below a decent A league Euro team but it is still far away from the best A league team. For example, a friend of mine played in the Spanish B league and won the Championship so his team moved up to the A league. In the A league I think they won 5 games. They just didn't have the personnel. He was/is an a league player but there weren't enough players like him on his team.

As far as the NBL and a college basketball team, I think that most DI major programs would embarrass an NBL team. Sure an NBL squad could beat a DIII team (most DIII teams have no one over 6'8" it's kind of like a really good high school team) and the best DII schools would be tough to beat. The DI schools especially ones in the top 20 would be very tough to beat. Again, because they just don't have the players.

That being said while the NBL is definitely below Euroleague teams it is not as bad as English league or Germany, Finland, Iceland etc.


german league is significantly better than nbl. nbl isn't terrible but it's nowhere near any of the decent european leagues mainly because of the restrictions they put on "import" players. it's a slight step below belgium/israel/ukraine

[Euroleague]

This, plus Childress was actually a pretty good player back in his Atlanta days.

:facepalm

[Euroleague]

Yes it is.

If you compare the amount that go over to the Chinese league, and people talk about that, yet our league is better than the Chinese league.

NBL is very physical and defense oriented. It's a tough league. So it has that going for it. However, in all honesty, it's nowhere near the quality of even the mid tier teams in China.

[Euroleague]

While the NBL isn't a shit league, the best NBL team would get crushed in Euroleague. The best NBL teams could play in European B leagues. That's not awful.

What the hell? It's way better than that.

[Euroleague]

I was watching Melbourne vs Adelaide NBL last weekend. I think a halfway decent HS team in America would crush them.

And ANOTHER troll of Rooster/Milbuck etc. is outed.

[qrich]

Absolutely sick. Dude should have remained in the pros and not went over to Europe. Never recovered.

[Euroleague]

I want to be clear that European B leagues are decent basketball league but they aren't rife with NBA level talent by any stretch of the imagination. The problem with any of the decent leagues isn't the quality of the basketball being played (in terms of execution etc) it's the quality of the talent. The talent level is far below NBA. The best Euro B league teams' talent level isn't that far below a decent A league Euro team but it is still far away from the best A league team. For example, a friend of mine played in the Spanish B league and won the Championship so his team moved up to the A league. In the A league I think they won 5 games. They just didn't have the personnel. He was/is an a league player but there weren't enough players like him on his team.

As far as the NBL and a college basketball team, I think that most DI major programs would embarrass an NBL team. Sure an NBL squad could beat a DIII team (most DIII teams have no one over 6'8" it's kind of like a really good high school team) and the best DII schools would be tough to beat. The DI schools especially ones in the top 20 would be very tough to beat. Again, because they just don't have the players.

That being said while the NBL is definitely below Euroleague teams it is not as bad as English league or Germany, Finland, Iceland etc.

You are way off base. Not even close. NBL teams could whip up most NCAA DI teams. Come on get real. How many people here actually played in DI? I mean seriously WTF is with this shit said here in this forum sometimes?

Some of the shit said here is so freaking crazy.

The average NBL team would easily beat the average NCAA DI team. Get real.

As to European B leagues, you are also off base. NBL is also better than that. The only European B leagues worth anything at all are the ones in Italy, which is definitely the best one, and then the ones in Spain and Greece.

The one in Russia has gotten better in recent years though. But seriously....no. In most European countries the B league is a joke compared to the NBL.

The only B leagues in Europe that would have teams that could compete with any NBL teams are the ones from Italy, Spain, and Greece. And even in those leagues, it would only be the better teams. In Spain, which has the weakest B league of those 3, probably just a few teams could compete in NBL....hell, maybe just a couple. Because only serious teams are even trying to make the investment to promote to the higher league, due to how much it costs to register to the top league.

In Italy, which is the best of those B leagues, still, you would not have a top 8 teams there with same quality as in NBL. In Greece, the second of those B leagues, you would have maybe 5 or so teams at NBL level probably.

And there are first level European national leagues not as good as NBL IMO. I mean come on, not just the leagues like England, but what about ones like Cyprus, or Georgia, or even the former Yugo national leagues. You think leagues like that are as good as NBL? I think hell no.

Even half the teams in leagues like Baltic states, Lithuania included, are worse level.

[Euroleague]

german league is significantly better than nbl. nbl isn't terrible but it's nowhere near any of the decent european leagues mainly because of the restrictions they put on "import" players. it's a slight step below belgium/israel/ukraine

Close, except German league is not "significantly better". People really do a huge exaggeration on the level of German league for some reason these days. Same with Turkish league and Italian league.

All for different reasons.

In case of German league, it is basically like a poor man's French league for the most part. The reason being, that at the bottom half of league, it is awful. So what you say is generally right, except, you are exaggerating.

Because NBL is better than the lower half of German league.

[Euroleague]

Absolutely sick. Dude should have remained in the pros and not went over to Europe. Never recovered.

And another troll alias of Rooster/gabepizza/Milbuck etc. is outed.

The count is up to about 25 now.

[Andrew Wiggins]

rotnei clarke was the mvp of the nbl in his rookie season. he left to join a team a belgium because he wanted to play at a higher level

that should tell you all you need to know

[Euroleague]

rotnei clarke was the mvp of the nbl in his rookie season. he left to join a team a belgium because he wanted to play at a higher level

that should tell you all you need to know

Wait, the same one that payed at Arkansas and Butler? Well, like I said, I think mid tier teams in CBA are better these days. CBA has a bad rep, but it's made huge levels of improvement in recent years.

NBL is defense oriented, but CBA teams are a lot better than people realize. The crazy stats people see for American players - what people in USA don't realize is those happen because Americans only guard each other in CBA and they have a verbal agreement with each other where they basically don't hardly defend each other.

Which is how those crazy stats happen. But if those teams lock down.....they are a lot better than most people realize.

[Rooster]

He'd drop 40 in euroleague

Not close but he averaged 15 ppg 5 reebies and 2 dimes and was named in All Euroleague 2nd Team and Greek League Top Scorer. He's ballin out there.:oldlol:

[Lebron23]

Australia is the 11th best basketball country in the world. They are a decent league.

[MiseryCityTexas]

Childress was decent in Atlanta and plus a lot of Australian talent is overseas.


Jason Terry was the Gawd in Atlanta also, but became a role player for the rest of his career afterwards. Really don't mean nothing to put up numbers for the shitty Atlanta Hawks of the early 2000s.

[outbreak]

Australia is the 11th best basketball country in the world. They are a decent league.
It's not terrible but it's not a big surprise that Childress is beasting in the NBL. Most teams best players are D-league calibre or mid level euro league calibre. The better Australians go play in europe over the NBL to make more money. It used to be a better league, they could make it higher calibre if they put more money in to it but the attendance and tv viewership just isn't there.

[RRR3]

Jason Terry was the Gawd in Atlanta also, but became a role player for the rest of his career afterwards. Really don't mean nothing to put up numbers for the shitty Atlanta Hawks of the early 2000s.
Wait, what?

Terry in Atlanta (outside of his rookie year when he only player 23 MPG)

20/3/5/1/0 on 44/40/85 in 38 MPG

19/4/6/2/0 on 43/39/84 in 38 MPG

17/3/7/2/0 on 43/37/89 in 38 MPG

17/4/5/2/0 on 42/35/83 in 37 MPG


Terry's best years statistically in Dallas

17/2/4/1/0 on 47/41/80 in 35 MPG

17/3/5/1/0 on 48/44/80 in 35 MPG

20/2/3/1/0 on 46/37/88 in 34 MPG

16/2/4/1/0 on 45/36/85 in 31 MPG


His role was different but dude was productive for a long time.

[CelticBaller]

like wilt in the 60s :applause:

[Euroleague]

Australia is the 11th best basketball country in the world. They are a decent league.

No they are not a "decent" league. The best by far player in the league, Jackson, was an absolute scrub in Europe's 2nd tier league.

It's pretty much as Wiggins said it is. It's a bit below leagues like Israel and Ukraine, which would be something like 15-20 ranked leagues in Europe.

So "decent", is a bit of a stretch.

Also a FIBA ranking for a national team has absolutely NOTHING to do with a national professional basketball league's level. Anyone with even a very rudimentary level of sports knowledge should know that.

Or are you saying that the NBA was worse than the Argentine league for about 4 years?

[Euroleague]

I take it back. NBL isn't even as good as I thought it was. I looked at the rosters of some of the 2nd Division Greek clubs and compared it to NBL teams.......

Doxa Lefkadas for example from Greek 2nd Division, is in 6th place in Greek 2nd league with a 5-4 record, and looking at their roster, and comparing it to rosters in NBL teams.........they probably would not lose a single game in NBL.

Yeah, NBL is really shit. It's actually far below a league like Israel, which is probably in 15-20 range in Europe.

[JohnFreeman]

Sydney v melbourne was a good game

[Milbuck]

This is really impressive to me. If he can dominate the NBL, he would be prime Jordan in Euroleague.

The way I see it he should go to Euroleague...why be a star in the NBL when you could be the GOAT of Euroleague? More money, more recognition. Yeah it might be a step down in level of competition, but it's not like you're not in the NBA, so nitpicking about the "prestige" of a league doesn't really matter..just go to the one with the fattest checks and biggest opportunity to dominate.

[OnFire]

Kentucky might go undefeated in the NBL.