Kobe shooting percentage at the end of games

[JohnMax]

http://i.imgur.com/q2yROBY.png

[imnew09]

breaking record from left to right :bowdown:

notice 23+ 1 = 24, just a reminder that He's better than MJ on the scoring list

[Im so nba'd out]

Its impossible to defend that :applause: truly a shell of his former self

[JohnFreeman]

:biggums:

[G0ATbe]

breaking record from left to right :bowdown:

notice 23+ 1 = 24, just a reminder that He's better than MJ on the scoring list
:rockon: :bowdown:

[Kvnzhangyay]

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

By the end of the season he'll have 3-4 clutch shots :lol :lol :lol

[Bless Mathews]

Hahahahahahahahahhaha


That's TURRIBLE!!!!!!!!

Goats are supposed to do better in clutch.


Kobe top 15 all time.

[Ramza]

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: A once in a lifetime talent.

[Magic 32]

Looks like the 2010-11 Heat.

[Mr. Jabbar]

he basically shoots every opportunity in the clutch, alpha AF

http://societymatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Lions_mating.jpg

[Prometheus]

:eek:




:facepalm


we're moving the decimal and it's still below average.

Sad times. Give Kobe the ball = you lose. Poor Lakers.

[Sharmer]

4.3% :roll:

[dazzer87]

omg that has to be a typo........:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[SexSymbol]

He's in his 19th year

[navy]

He's in his 19th year
So stop shooting....

[Mr Feeny]

He's in his 19th year

1-23:roll:

[SexSymbol]

1-23:roll:
is your success rate with girls

[Mr Feeny]

is your success rate with girls

Awww, resorting to personal insults?

Did mentioning the choker's shooting percentage in the clutch hit a nerve there? :lol

[Smoke117]

He's in his 19th year

And he's taking some of the most horrible, selfish shots in clutch time of close games this season by ANYONE EVER, PERIOD. All this nonsense about his age and how many seasons he has played doesn't mean shit...if he is going to play like an asshole with down syndrome. No matter how you look at it...he has by far the worst decision making of any player this season. 1/23? He has literally shot jacked the Lakers out of close games.

It's been so bad I've honestly started to wonder if he's doing it on purpose...that this is his way of tanking.

[Mr Feeny]

And he's taking some of the most horrible, selfish shots at the end of close games this season by ANYONE EVER, PERIOD. All this nonsense about his age and how many seasons he has played doesn't mean shit...if he is going to play like an asshole with down syndrome. No matter how you look at it...he has by far the worst decision making of any player this season. 1/23? He has literally shot jacked the Lakers out of close games.

It's been so bad I've honestly started to wonder if he's doing it on purpose...that this is his way of tanking.

He can't respond. He has Kobe's member lodged firmly in his mouth.

[nba_55]

So stop shooting....
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[La Frescobaldi]

He's in his 19th year

He's been a running site gag for at least 3 years.

I know several guys that literally burst into laughter at the mention of his name.

Bryant really is a laughingstock and has been for awhile tbh

[Keno]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[zoom17]

So stop shooting....

:roll:

[iamgine]

Top 2 scoring season:

http://i.imgur.com/rKBrixU.jpg

[navy]

Top 2 scoring season:

http://i.imgur.com/rKBrixU.jpg
:roll:

[fpliii]

Yeah yeah we get it. Nobody is confusing Kobe for an all-star at this point in his career. Doesn't make him any worse of a player in his prime. Kobe at his best was an all-time great.

[La Frescobaldi]

Yeah yeah we get it. Nobody is confusing Kobe for an all-star at this point in his career. Doesn't make him any worse of a player in his prime. Kobe at his best was an all-time great.

Nobody will ever let that change the fact of what he's been increasingly doing the past couple years. Bryant has been absolutely horrific for the Lakers and he is a disgusting example of basketball at its worst.

Any legacy he may have had at one point is 100% ruined by the unending, shameless ballhoggery.

[fpliii]

Nobody will ever let that change the fact of what he's been increasingly doing the past couple years. Bryant has been absolutely horrific for the Lakers and he is a disgusting example of basketball at its worst.

Any legacy he may have had at one point is 100% ruined by the unending, shameless ballhoggery.
Has to be by design though. As much as Jeanie, Jim and Mitch deny it, the tank is on 100%.

Doesn't excuse it by any means, but it's not hurting us really.

[Smoke117]

Nobody will ever let that change the fact of what he's been increasingly doing the past couple years. Bryant has been absolutely horrific for the Lakers and he is a disgusting example of basketball at its worst.

Any legacy he may have had at one point is 100% ruined by the unending, shameless ballhoggery.


Larry Brown can't even watch Laker games anymore...his heart can't take watching basketball being played this way.

[Magic 32]

Top 2 scoring season:

http://i.imgur.com/rKBrixU.jpg

Look up 2000-2004 and 2008-2012.

Kobe's clutch numbers suffer when he can't trust his teammates (Smush, Kwame, Lin, Boozer).

And 04-05 was not his second best scoring season (that would be 06-07).

[AirFederer]

Look up 2000-2004 and 2008-2012.

Kobe's clutch numbers suffer when he can't trust his teammates (Smush, Kwame, Lin, Boozer).

And 04-05 was not his second best scoring season (that would be 06-07).
Hahahaha, you really believe that? I bet you all the mentioned players shoot a higher % than him.

Truth is Kobe can't hit a shot unless the defence swarms the HOF big man. :facepalm

[Bless Mathews]

Hahahaha, you really believe that? I bet you all the mentioned players shoot a higher % than him.

Truth is Kobe can't hit a shot unless the defence swarms the HOF big man. :facepalm


Hahahahahaha


Slayed.

[strifed169]

****ing disgrace :lol

[Prometheus]

Top 2 scoring season:

http://i.imgur.com/rKBrixU.jpg


sweet Jesus... his worshippers, so brainwashed... all this time...

[Magic 32]

Hahahaha, you really believe that? I bet you all the mentioned players shoot a higher % than him.

Truth is Kobe can't hit a shot unless the defence swarms the HOF big man. :facepalm

Is that why Kobe was the most clutch in his career during the first half of the 07-08 season?

Bynum HOF?

[T_L_P]

He's just getting his legs back. Don't worry.

[Mr Feeny]

He's just getting his legs back. Don't worry.

:oldlol:

[Darius]

Jabber and co taking a major L here. How will they fire back?

[Trollsmasher]

does not look much worse than his career average, tbh

[Nash]

http://i.imgur.com/q2yROBY.png
that is so extremely alpha

[DMAVS41]

Meh...seems like an arbitrary thing, but regardless...at least you all of the data and compare it to someone else:

Kobe:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/plus/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=bryanko01&match=single&year_id=&is_playoffs=&team_id=&opp_id=&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&shot_pts=&is_make=&shot_type=&shot_distance_min=&shot_distance_max=&q4=Y&q5=Y&time_remain_minutes=1&time_remain_seconds=0&time_remain_comp=le&margin_min=&margin_max=&c1stat=&c1comp=ge&c1val=&c2stat=&c2comp=ge&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=ge&c3val=&order_by=fg

Lebron:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/plus/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=jamesle01&match=single&year_id=&is_playoffs=&team_id=&opp_id=&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&shot_pts=&is_make=&shot_type=&shot_distance_min=&shot_distance_max=&q4=Y&q5=Y&time_remain_minutes=1&time_remain_seconds=0&time_remain_comp=le&margin_min=&margin_max=&c1stat=&c1comp=ge&c1val=&c2stat=&c2comp=ge&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=ge&c3val=&order_by=fg

Dirk:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/plus/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=nowitdi01&match=single&year_id=&is_playoffs=&team_id=&opp_id=&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&shot_pts=&is_make=&shot_type=&shot_distance_min=&shot_distance_max=&q4=Y&q5=Y&time_remain_minutes=1&time_remain_seconds=0&time_remain_comp=le&margin_min=&margin_max=&c1stat=&c1comp=ge&c1val=&c2stat=&c2comp=ge&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=ge&c3val=&order_by=fg

[DMV2]

It's been awhile since we've seen this.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/toyotamotors/Clutch1_zps065b73d0.jpg

[Mr Feeny]

It's been awhile since we've seen this.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/toyotamotors/Clutch1_zps065b73d0.jpg

Kobe's percentage is a lot worse than that now. I remember atleast a couple of more misses in the 2011 wcsf against Dallas where he bricked in costly fashion at the end of the game.

[AirFederer]

Kobe's percentage is a lot worse than that now. I remember atleast a couple of more misses in the 2011 wcsf against Dallas where he bricked in costly fashion at the end of the game.
But but he keeps shooting and that's alpha they say :lol

[Smoke117]

Jabber and co taking a major L here. How will they fire back?

Kobe will shoot 9/20 (an super impressive 45% for him) today with 23 points and they will make 10 threads about how great he is...that is how they will fire back.

[Mr Feeny]

Kobe will shoot 9/20 (an super impressive 45% for him) today with 23 points and they will make 10 threads about how great he is...that is how they will fire back.

It's really sad. Jabbar used to be one of the funniest posters on this site, and recently even he looks completely demoralised and out of ammo. The same old drivel about 'alpha' or whatever it is, whenever he can't seem to construct a proper argument about basketball.

That tells you just how bad it's gotten for Kobe stans. This season has the sucked the wind from their sails.

[AirFederer]

It's really sad. Jabbar used to be one of the funniest posters on this site, and recently even he looks completely demoralised and out of ammo. The same old drivel about 'alpha' or whatever it is, whenever he can't seem to construct a proper argument about basketball.

That tells you just how bad it's gotten for Kobe stans. This season has the sucked the wind from their sails.
Jabbar only has alpha and rent free left, he wisely stays away from facts :lol

[Mr Feeny]

Jabbar only has alpha and rent free left, he wisely stays away from facts :lol

:D :banana:

[Nash]

Kobe's own version of theoo quote:

"life is like basketball sometime there shot miss and sometime there shot miss and sometime yet another shot and miss but if you alway have a patient then you will probably make 1 of every 23 shots"

[AirFederer]

Kobe's own version of theoo quote:

"life is like basketball sometime there shot miss and sometime there shot miss and sometime yet another shot and miss but if you alway have a patient then you will probably make 1 of every 23 shots"
:lol

[La Frescobaldi]

Larry Brown can't even watch Laker games anymore...his heart can't take watching basketball being played this way.

grew up a knicks fan but also watched Wilts whole Lakers career, which they were the enemy but still had to love them - sooooo great- even tho they beat my Knicks in '72.
I was a two team guy until Knicks doomed themselves for a thousand years by sending my all time favorite player Clyde to Siberia (which is what the League called Cleveland). Notice the Knicks agony ever since? They did it to themselves. I grin to beat the band every time I think of Anthony and his enormous fat FAIL because that organization deserves all they get and much much more for what they did to Frazier.
Anyhow I was Lakers fan forty years see? But i got a divorce after Bynum did the worst deed I ever saw from a Laker to JJ Barea. I left her flat.

So now I can drag the ex's name through the mud once again, and drink the fine tasting wine of KobeStan tears with greatest delight.

[ImKobe]

Kobe's response:

http://www.lipstickalley.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=144866&d=1406579406

[Hoopz2332]

That Kobe "Killer clutch" myth:oldlol:

[JebronLames]

1/24 now

[Eric Cartman]

Getting mad mula doe.

[Prometheus]

Look Kobe was a legendary baller - he won rings, he bruised egos, and he did it in style.

But you're just not allowed to say he's clutch anymore. Dude is fearless, but he ain't clutch.

[La Frescobaldi]

Look Kobe was a legendary baller - he won rings, he bruised egos, and he did it in style.

But you're just not allowed to say he's clutch anymore. Dude is fearless, but he ain't clutch.

Lolololmao

well.......... he was clutch once!!!!

[Cold soul]

Look Kobe was a legendary baller - he won rings, he bruised egos, and he did it in style.

But you're just not allowed to say he's clutch anymore. Dude is fearless, but he ain't clutch.


Lol Kobe one of the most clutch players ever top 5 for me just now he is shell of his former self. I won't mind if he retires anymore he looks washed up. I mean farther time is undefeated and is finally caught up to Kobe.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Kobe has never been clutch. Being clutch is about not letting the pressure affect the way you play - either way. i.e not becoming too passive or too aggressive. Kobe has always been overly aggressive in the clutch and that's why he's shot so bad. Honestly, I think his false clutch reputation comes from 2 things:

1) His stans are ridiculously stupid people in general.

2) He plays sort of like MJ so people assume he's clutch because MJ was.

[ArbitraryWater]

Lol Kobe one of the most clutch players ever top 5 for me just now he is shell of his former self. I won't mind if he retires anymore he looks washed up. I mean farther time is undefeated and is finally caught up to Kobe.


http://i.minus.com/ibzaItiYY21DoT.gif

[Cold soul]

http://i.minus.com/ibzaItiYY21DoT.gif


Lol this loser troll still around? How that post count of yours still going...

[Hoopz2332]

Lol Kobe one of the most clutch players ever top 5 for me just now he is shell of his former self. I won't mind if he retires anymore he looks washed up. I mean farther time is undefeated and is finally caught up to Kobe.


:biggums: :roll:

[ArbitraryWater]

Lol this loser troll still around? How that post count of yours still going...

http://i.gyazo.com/0d41494c38c7e12e4386aef0642c9e11.png
http://i.gyazo.com/73090416effed234fce323a412cb27c8.png
http://i.gyazo.com/e3dc32af189387e77aafacbb971353d1.png
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http://i.gyazo.com/4d9edf74469a844abdb70a813df978a5.png

[Cold soul]

:biggums: :roll:


Lol people judging what he's done last four years compared to his prime in clutch situations the guy has the most game winners in NBA history for crying out loud.

[CelticBaller]

http://i.gyazo.com/0d41494c38c7e12e4386aef0642c9e11.png
http://i.gyazo.com/73090416effed234fce323a412cb27c8.png
http://i.gyazo.com/e3dc32af189387e77aafacbb971353d1.png
http://i.gyazo.com/407e16864233ae042f46525478282e82.png
http://i.gyazo.com/54a7d1fb32194ad3bca9e1817da0e08a.png
http://i.gyazo.com/4d9edf74469a844abdb70a813df978a5.png
lmao, lakers arent even winning 25

[Cold soul]

lmao, lakers arent even winning 25

Tom Brady hasn't won Super Bowl since spygate ouch...

[CelticBaller]

Tom Brady hasn't won Super Bowl since spygate ouch...
And what have the broncos have won since the cheating the salary cap? what have they done in the last 15 years?

But that's none of my business :oldlol:

[jzek]

Redefines the meaning of the word 'clutch' :bowdown:

[Cold soul]

And what have the broncos have won since the cheating the salary cap? what have they done in the last 15 years?

But that's none of my business :oldlol:

Well we did end your little dynasty run back in 2005 playoffs Brady first playoff loss came to hands of Denver Broncos and beat you guys last year in AFC championship game.

[TheBigVeto]

breaking record from left to right :bowdown:

notice 23+ 1 = 24, just a reminder that He's better than MJ on the scoring list

:applause: :applause: :applause:

[Megabox!]

And what have the broncos have won since the cheating the salary cap? what have they done in the last 15 years?

But that's none of my business :oldlol:
Well damn

[andgar923]

Lol Kobe one of the most clutch players ever top 5 for me just now he is shell of his former self. I won't mind if he retires anymore he looks washed up. I mean farther time is undefeated and is finally caught up to Kobe.
In what sense of the word?

What do you define as 'clutch'?

Top 5 ever for 3rd tier players?

[Cold soul]

In what sense of the word?

What do you define as 'clutch'?

Top 5 ever for 3rd tier players?


Lol 3rd tier player I won't even respond you're known Kobe hater on these boards.

[andgar923]

Lol 3rd tier player I won't even respond you're known Kobe hater on these boards.
didn't say he was a 3rd tier player.

[AirFederer]

Kobes clutch move should be to sit his ass on the bench. This is getting ridiculous.

[JebronLames]

Kobe can't be the man. He's always been a complimentary player. People need to understand this. It's not his fault, it's just e way he is.

[Sakkreth]

GOAT tank commander :bowdown:

[Nash]

sit his ass on the bench.
http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/196157.gif

[Myth]

He's in his 19th year

Then why hasn't his 19 years of basketball increased his BBall IQ enough to tell him to stop chucking?

[aj1987]

Look up 2000-2004 and 2008-2012.

Kobe's clutch numbers suffer when he can't trust his teammates (Smush, Kwame, Lin, Boozer).

And 04-05 was not his second best scoring season (that would be 06-07).
http://i.imgur.com/FoDTPCk.png
http://i.imgur.com/DrBAn2V.png


Looks like the 2010-11 Heat.
You're obsessed with LeBron/Heat. You post more about LeBron than that Dubeta idiot.

[Prometheus]

Kobe has never been clutch. Being clutch is about not letting the pressure affect the way you play - either way. i.e not becoming too passive or too aggressive. Kobe has always been overly aggressive in the clutch and that's why he's shot so bad. Honestly, I think his false clutch reputation comes from 2 things:

1) His stans are ridiculously stupid people in general.

2) He plays sort of like MJ so people assume he's clutch because MJ was.

This here is known as "when truth fits the troll's agenda".

[ArbitraryWater]

Kobe has never been clutch. Being clutch is about not letting the pressure affect the way you play - either way. i.e not becoming too passive or too aggressive. Kobe has always been overly aggressive in the clutch and that's why he's shot so bad. Honestly, I think his false clutch reputation comes from 2 things:

1) His stans are ridiculously stupid people in general.

2) He plays sort of like MJ so people assume he's clutch because MJ was.

3) media hype

Basically, once you're given the clutch reputation, you don't lose it...

Think about it. People started with the LeBron choker shit early on, reached its peak in 2011, won't lose it for the casuals...

Wade got the clutch label in 2006, meaning, he will now be clutch for the rest of his career... irrelevant of what he does.

Kobe got the clutch label early on in his career, winning with Shaq, ballsy attitude, taking a bunch of shots, loud mouth, etc CLUTCH.... So he will continue to be presented as clutch.

[chazzy]

Kobe has never been clutch. Being clutch is about not letting the pressure affect the way you play - either way. i.e not becoming too passive or too aggressive. Kobe has always been overly aggressive in the clutch and that's why he's shot so bad. Honestly, I think his false clutch reputation comes from 2 things:

1) His stans are ridiculously stupid people in general.

2) He plays sort of like MJ so people assume he's clutch because MJ was.
https://elgee35.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/kobe-clutch.jpg

So his scoring and efficiency went up during clutch situations. The myth of Kobe being the most clutch is starting to be overrun by the other ridiculous myth of Kobe not ever being clutch.

[Magic 32]

You're obsessed with LeBron/Heat. You post more about LeBron than that Dubeta idiot.

In other news...I was pretty much right.

I am surprised by 2008-09.

http://www.82games.com/0809/CSORT11.HTM

[DMAVS41]

https://elgee35.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/kobe-clutch.jpg

So his scoring and efficiency went up during clutch situations. The myth of Kobe being the most clutch is starting to be overrun by the other ridiculous myth of Kobe not ever being clutch.

Not only that, but Kobe was actually super clutch in the playoffs as well.

[ArbitraryWater]

https://elgee35.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/kobe-clutch.jpg

It seems thats the picture you guys go with when Kobe is questioned... Looks to be the clear minority when its outweighted by numerous statistics proving Kobe's clutch label to be a myth.

Shot to tie or take the lead with 2 minutes or less left in the playoffs since 2001:

Kobe: 17/50 34%
Dirk: 14/30 47%
Lebron: 21/43 49%

Shot to tie or take the lead with 5 minutes or less left in the playoffs since 2001:

Kobe: 30/88 34%
Dirk: 25/52 48%
Lebron: 36/74 48%

Playoff games during above sample:

Kobe: 170
Dirk: 120
LeBron: 138


Source: Basketball-Reference

Credit to DMAVS for making the post.


Kobe just isn't clutch... you need to accept this.

[DMAVS41]

3) media hype

Basically, once you're given the clutch reputation, you don't lose it...

Think about it. People started with the LeBron choker shit early on, reached its peak in 2011, won't lose it for the casuals...

Wade got the clutch label in 2006, meaning, he will now be clutch for the rest of his career... irrelevant of what he does.

Kobe got the clutch label early on in his career, winning with Shaq, ballsy attitude, taking a bunch of shots, loud mouth, etc CLUTCH.... So he will continue to be presented as clutch.


BUT KOBE IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE BEST CLUTCH PLAYERS OF THE ERA!

Unless you define "clutch" as only game winning shots...Kobe has been really good and honestly I'd only take Lebron, Dirk, and Durant offensively over him in the last few minutes of a tight game for this era.

[DMAVS41]

It seems thats the picture you guys go with when Kobe is questioned... Looks to be the clear minority when its outweighted by numerous statistics proving Kobe's clutch label to be a myth.

Shot to tie or take the lead with 2 minutes or less left in the playoffs since 2001:

Kobe: 17/50 34%
Dirk: 14/30 47%
Lebron: 21/43 49%

Shot to tie or take the lead with 5 minutes or less left in the playoffs since 2001:

Kobe: 30/88 34%
Dirk: 25/52 48%
Lebron: 36/74 48%

Playoff games during above sample:

Kobe: 170
Dirk: 120
LeBron: 138


Source: Basketball-Reference

Credit to DMAVS for making the post.


Kobe just isn't clutch... you need to accept this.


There is a difference in saying the following:

1. Kobe just isn't clutch

2. Kobe just isn't as clutch as a lot think


Saying Kobe isn't as good in late game situations as Dirk, Lebron, or Durant...like I said above....does not mean he isn't clutch at all.

Kobe has had some super clutch playoff runs as well.

Chazzy is right...the narrative has swung way too far the other way now.

[ArbitraryWater]

Kobe's not clutch... he isn't a choker either, but he's not clutch.

http://i.imgur.com/h3ZmkPg.png

http://i.imgur.com/rEhQ8it.png

http://i.imgur.com/RqK0DhC.png

Kobe and the Clutch Playoff Performance Myth (2011)

http://i.imgur.com/6sylQYF.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BWtZ1sQIEAAM38F.png:large

http://i.imgur.com/eCV55FP.png

http://i.imgur.com/7EfbL0O.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvacpVcIQAIO0rn.jpg

http://i.gyazo.com/0844f5530652565a2b650e4b4769fa37.png

Nothing of this screams clutch to me.

[aj1987]

In other news...I was pretty much right.
That LeBron is a MUCH better 4th Q player than Kobe? Sure.


I am surprised by 2008-09.

http://www.82games.com/0809/CSORT11.HTM
Yeah, LeBron does almost everything better than Kobe. Much better efficiency, rebounding, passing, defense, etc..

[Doranku]

That LeBron is a MUCH better 4th Q player than Kobe? Sure.


Yeah, LeBron does almost everything better than Kobe. Much better efficiency, rebounding, passing, defense, etc..

Yeah, Cleveland LeBron.

Pretty sure Heat LeBron was garbage in the clutch.

[RRR3]

Yeah, Cleveland LeBron.

Pretty sure Heat LeBron was garbage in the clutch.
Heat LeBron was good in clutch. Garbage in 2011 finals and inconsistent more than I liked but he had ~4-5 game winners with Heat I think.

[ArbitraryWater]

Heat LeBron was good in clutch. Garbage in 2011 finals and inconsistent more than I liked but he had ~4-5 game winners with Heat I think.

2013: 4 - vs. Rockets (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEdCDJX2OPI 1.00) Magic, Celtics, Pacers

2014: 3 - vs. Magic, Warriors, Blazers

[aj1987]

Yeah, Cleveland LeBron.

Pretty sure Heat LeBron was garbage in the clutch.
"In all seasons, in the regular season and playoffs, in the 4th quarter or overtime, scoring margin between -5 and 5 points, sorted by descending Field Goals."

'11 - 41.3% FG% and 26.4% 3PT%.
'12 - 44.2% FG% and 35.5% 3PT%
'13 - 45.3% FG% and 36.4% 3PT %
'14 - 51.2% FG% and 36.7% 3PT%

[Magic 32]

That LeBron is a MUCH better 4th Q player than Kobe? Sure.


Yeah, LeBron does almost everything better than Kobe. Much better efficiency, rebounding, passing, defense, etc..

You can have him.

Lebron has always been more calculated than Kobe in the regular season. I will admit that.

Bites you in the butt when big playoffs moments comes around though.

[RRR3]

2013: 4 - vs. Rockets (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEdCDJX2OPI 1.00) Magic, Celtics, Pacers

2014: 3 - vs. Magic, Warriors, Blazers
Link me to magic in 2014 please

[Doranku]

"In all seasons, in the regular season and playoffs, in the 4th quarter or overtime, scoring margin between -5 and 5 points, sorted by descending Field Goals."

'11 - 41.3% FG% and 26.4% 3PT%.
'12 - 44.2% FG% and 35.5% 3PT%
'13 - 45.3% FG% and 36.4% 3PT %
'14 - 51.2% FG% and 36.7% 3PT%

Happened to check a random year (11-12) to see if these numbers were right... completely wrong. Really awkward...

http://i.imgur.com/wh3NDQ1.png

[RRR3]

You can have him.

Lebron has always been more calculated than Kobe in the regular season. I will admit that.

Bits you in the butt when big playoffs moments comes around though.
LeBron has as many playoff game winners than Kobe in like half the games :oldlol:

[ArbitraryWater]

Link me to magic in 2014 please


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1vUq1KOOYg

[aj1987]

Happened to check a random year (11-12) to see if these numbers were right... completely wrong. Really awkward...
Yep. My bad. Don't even know how I ****ed it up that bad.

'11 - 42.2% FG% and 27.8% 3PT%.
'12 - 42.9% FG% and 38.1% 3PT%
'13 - 44.2% FG% and 30.6% 3PT %
'14 - 49.1% FG% and 33.3% 3PT%

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/plus/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=jamesle01&match=single&year_id=&is_playoffs=&team_id=&opp_id=&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&shot_pts=&is_make=&shot_type=&shot_distance_min=&shot_distance_max=&q4=Y&q5=Y&time_remain_minutes=5&time_remain_seconds=0&time_remain_comp=le&margin_min=-5&margin_max=5&c1stat=&c1comp=ge&c1val=&c2stat=&c2comp=ge&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=ge&c3val=&order_by=fg

[Magic 32]

LeBron has as many playoff game winners than Kobe in like half the games :oldlol:

https://str8hoops.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/arenas-butler-jamison.jpg

http://espn.go.com/photo/2007/0302/nba_g_pistons_395.jpg

Layup party!!!

[ArbitraryWater]

Game Tying and/or Go Ahead/Game Winning Shots in the last 24 Seconds of the 4th Quarter and Overtime of the Playoffs:

Kobe Bryant:

-1997 WCSF vs. Utah Jazz Game 5: Bryant misses a game winning shot at the end of regulation.
-1997 WCSF vs. Utah Jazz Game 5: Bryant misses a game tying shot with 4 Seconds remaining in overtime.
-1999 WCSF vs. San Antonio Spurs Game 2: Bryant misses a game tying shot at the end of regulation.
-2000 WCSF vs. Phoenix Suns Game 2: Bryant makes a game winning shot with 2 seconds left.
-2001 NBA Finals vs. Philadelphia 76ers Game 1: Bryant misses a game winning shot with 20 seconds left.
- 2002 WCSF vs. San Antonio Spurs Game 4: Bryant makes a game winning shot with 5.1 seconds left.
-2002 WCF vs. Sacramento Kings Game 4: Bryant misses a game winning shot with 3.3 seconds left.
-2002 WCF vs. Sacramento Kings Game 5: Bryant misses a game winning shot with 0.4 seconds left.
-2002 WCF vs. Sacramento Kings Game 7: Bryant misses a game winning shot with 2.7 seconds left.
-2003 WC 1st Round vs. Minnesota Timberwolves Game 3: Bryant misses a game winning shot in OT with 2.6 seconds left.
-2003 WC 1st Round vs. Minnesota Timberwolves Game 3: Bryant misses a game tying shot in OT with 13.4 seconds left.
-2003 WCSF vs. San Antonio Spurs Game 1: Bryant misses a game winning shot with 11.8 seconds left.
-2004 WC 1st Round vs. Houston Rockets Game 1: Bryant misses a game winning shot with 17.9 seconds left.
-2004 WC 1st Round vs. Houston Rockets Game 4: Bryant misses a game winning shot at the buzzer.
-2004 WCSF vs. San Antonio Spurs Game 5: Bryant makes a game winning shot with 11.9 seconds left.
-2004 NBA Finals vs. Detroit Pistons Game 2: Bryant makes game tying shot with 2.1 seconds left.
-2006 WC 1st Round vs. Phoenix Suns Game 4: Bryant makes a game tying shot with 0.2 seconds left.
-2006 WC 1st Round vs. Phoenix Suns Game 4: Bryant makes a game winning shot at the buzzer in OT.
-2006 WC 1st Round vs. Phoenix Suns Game 6: Bryant misses a game winning shot at the buzzer.
-2008 WCSF vs. Utah Jazz Game 4: Bryant misses a game tying shot with 5.6 seconds left.
-2008 WCF vs. San Antonio Spurs Game 1: Bryant makes a game winning shot with 23.9 seconds left
-2009 WC 1st Round vs. Utah Jazz Game 3: Bryant misses a game winning shot with 1.2 seconds left.
-2009 NBA Finals vs. Orlando Magic Game 2: Bryant misses a game winning shot with 1.8 seconds left.
-2010 WC 1st Round vs. Oklahoma City Thunder Game 6: Bryant misses a game winning shot with 1.8 seconds left.
-2010 WCF vs. Phoenix Suns Game 5: Bryant misses a game winning shot with 2.5 seconds left.
-2011 WCSF vs. Dallas Mavericks Game 1: Bryant misses a game winning shot at the end of regulation.
-2012 WC 1st Round vs. Denver Nuggets Game 5: Bryant misses a game tying shot with 21 seconds left.
-2012 WC 1st Round vs. Denver Nuggets Game 5: Bryant misses a game tying shot with 5 seconds left.
-2012 WCSF vs. Oklahoma City Thunder Game 4: Bryant misses a game tying shot with 9.9 seconds left.

7-29 24.1%

[RRR3]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1vUq1KOOYg
I must have missed that I guess. I don't trust LBJ to take last second jumpers (he's not good at those it seems he is much better if he has time to calculate maybe? or maybe he thinks TOO much) but he'd be my number one choice for any player if I needed a game winning drive to the hoop (most of his gws are these)

[Doranku]

Yep. My bad. Don't even know how I ****ed it up that bad.

'11 - 42.2% FG% and 27.8% 3PT%.
'12 - 42.9% FG% and 38.1% 3PT%
'13 - 44.2% FG% and 30.6% 3PT %
'14 - 49.1% FG% and 33.3% 3PT%

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/plus/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=jamesle01&match=single&year_id=&is_playoffs=&team_id=&opp_id=&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&shot_pts=&is_make=&shot_type=&shot_distance_min=&shot_distance_max=&q4=Y&q5=Y&time_remain_minutes=5&time_remain_seconds=0&time_remain_comp=le&margin_min=-5&margin_max=5&c1stat=&c1comp=ge&c1val=&c2stat=&c2comp=ge&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=ge&c3val=&order_by=fg

Meh, still better than I thought.

[DMAVS41]

Chazzy.

Unrelated to this topic, but if you are in here.

You willing to concede Gasol had a lot more left in the tank like I've been saying and that all he needed was a better situation? I know it's early, but he looks like Olympics Gasol so far on the Bulls...and although he missed some time last year...he was really solid as well.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Kobe led the league in 4th quarter playoff scoring for b2b titles during a time when most people in this thread were still getting their milk from their moms left titty

[Hoopz2332]

Yeah, Cleveland LeBron.

Pretty sure Heat LeBron was garbage in the clutch.


lebron first year in the heat when he was adjusting his clutch game was off but other than that he was on point. From 2008-last season


Take note of the field goal attempts and field goal %


2008-2009

http://i.imgur.com/WSx94vA.png


2009-2010


http://i.imgur.com/7ZYLyxm.png


2010-2011

http://i.imgur.com/LlwepZq.png


2011-2012 (sucked that year trying to adjust to wade)

http://i.imgur.com/GxBJ1hR.png



2012-2013 (back on track)

http://i.imgur.com/ZWa8Jmn.png


Lebron basically put up triple doubles in crunch time alot of blks and stls:eek:






2013-2014

http://i.imgur.com/gC7pY9v.png

[Magic 32]

Game Tying and/or Go Ahead/Game Winning Shots in the last 24 Seconds of the 4th Quarter and Overtime of the Playoffs:

Kobe Bryant:

-1997 WCSF vs. Utah Jazz Game 5: Bryant misses a game winning shot at the end of regulation.
-1997 WCSF vs. Utah Jazz Game 5: Bryant misses a game tying shot with 4 Seconds remaining in overtime.
-1999 WCSF vs. San Antonio Spurs Game 2: Bryant misses a game tying shot at the end of regulation.
-2000 WCSF vs. Phoenix Suns Game 2: Bryant makes a game winning shot with 2 seconds left.
-2001 NBA Finals vs. Philadelphia 76ers Game 1: Bryant misses a game winning shot with 20 seconds left.
- 2002 WCSF vs. San Antonio Spurs Game 4: Bryant makes a game winning shot with 5.1 seconds left.
-2002 WCF vs. Sacramento Kings Game 4: Bryant misses a game winning shot with 3.3 seconds left.
-2002 WCF vs. Sacramento Kings Game 5: Bryant misses a game winning shot with 0.4 seconds left.
-2002 WCF vs. Sacramento Kings Game 7: Bryant misses a game winning shot with 2.7 seconds left.
-2003 WC 1st Round vs. Minnesota Timberwolves Game 3: Bryant misses a game winning shot in OT with 2.6 seconds left.
-2003 WC 1st Round vs. Minnesota Timberwolves Game 3: Bryant misses a game tying shot in OT with 13.4 seconds left.
-2003 WCSF vs. San Antonio Spurs Game 1: Bryant misses a game winning shot with 11.8 seconds left.
-2004 WC 1st Round vs. Houston Rockets Game 1: Bryant misses a game winning shot with 17.9 seconds left.
-2004 WC 1st Round vs. Houston Rockets Game 4: Bryant misses a game winning shot at the buzzer.
-2004 WCSF vs. San Antonio Spurs Game 5: Bryant makes a game winning shot with 11.9 seconds left.
-2004 NBA Finals vs. Detroit Pistons Game 2: Bryant makes game tying shot with 2.1 seconds left.
-2006 WC 1st Round vs. Phoenix Suns Game 4: Bryant makes a game tying shot with 0.2 seconds left.
-2006 WC 1st Round vs. Phoenix Suns Game 4: Bryant makes a game winning shot at the buzzer in OT.
-2006 WC 1st Round vs. Phoenix Suns Game 6: Bryant misses a game winning shot at the buzzer.
-2008 WCSF vs. Utah Jazz Game 4: Bryant misses a game tying shot with 5.6 seconds left.
-2008 WCF vs. San Antonio Spurs Game 1: Bryant makes a game winning shot with 23.9 seconds left
-2009 WC 1st Round vs. Utah Jazz Game 3: Bryant misses a game winning shot with 1.2 seconds left.
-2009 NBA Finals vs. Orlando Magic Game 2: Bryant misses a game winning shot with 1.8 seconds left.
-2010 WC 1st Round vs. Oklahoma City Thunder Game 6: Bryant misses a game winning shot with 1.8 seconds left.
-2010 WCF vs. Phoenix Suns Game 5: Bryant misses a game winning shot with 2.5 seconds left.
-2011 WCSF vs. Dallas Mavericks Game 1: Bryant misses a game winning shot at the end of regulation.
-2012 WC 1st Round vs. Denver Nuggets Game 5: Bryant misses a game tying shot with 21 seconds left.
-2012 WC 1st Round vs. Denver Nuggets Game 5: Bryant misses a game tying shot with 5 seconds left.
-2012 WCSF vs. Oklahoma City Thunder Game 4: Bryant misses a game tying shot with 9.9 seconds left.

7-29 24.1%

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuZr5AN-bsM&t=7m10s

So if that one is BS, how can we trust you with any of these kiddo?

[RRR3]

https://str8hoops.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/arenas-butler-jamison.jpg
same Arenas who scored 60 on Kobe
http://espn.go.com/photo/2007/0302/nba_g_pistons_395.jpg
howd Kobe do against that team?
Layup party!!!
Yeah shame on LeBron for being smart and not settling for a contested jumper :rolleyes:

[Magic 32]

Yeah shame on LeBron for playing in the east against garbage teams

fixed

[ArbitraryWater]

Plaoyffs 4th quarters:

2004: Kobe shot 42-126 37%. With 3 minutes left it was 10-38 26%.
2006: Kobe shot 16-43 37%. With 3 minutes left it was 4-14 29%.
2007: Kobe shot 10-34 29%. With 3 minutes left it was 3-18 17%.
2011: Kobe shot 12-39 31%. With 3 minutes left it it was 3-18 17%.
2012: Kobe shot 27-74 36%.

2012 Round 1: 16-40 40%. In a G1 Blowout loss Kobe stat padded going 6-8 to get his 31 points.

Without irrelevant G1: 10-32 31%

Round 2: 11-34 32%. Again in a Game 5 Blowout Loss he stat padded going 4-9 to get his 42 points.

Without irrelevant G5: 7-25 28%

2012 without irrelevant 1R G1&2R G5: 17-57 30%

CLOSERRRRR!!!!

[RRR3]

I honestly have problems with both Lebron and Kobe in clutch moments. One thinks too much, the other doesn't think at all.

[TheMarkMadsen]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuZr5AN-bsM&t=7m10s

So if that one is BS, how can we trust you with any of these kiddo?

:roll: :roll:

[DMAVS41]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuZr5AN-bsM&t=7m10s

So if that one is BS, how can we trust you with any of these kiddo?

I can't watch the stream...isn't that the one where he missed the tip in?

[RRR3]

Plaoyffs 4th quarters:

2004: Kobe shot 42-126 37%. With 3 minutes left it was 10-38 26%.
2006: Kobe shot 16-43 37%. With 3 minutes left it was 4-14 29%.
2007: Kobe shot 10-34 29%. With 3 minutes left it was 3-18 17%.
2011: Kobe shot 12-39 31%. With 3 minutes left it it was 3-18 17%.
2012: Kobe shot 27-74 36%.

2012 Round 1: 16-40 40%. In a G1 Blowout loss Kobe stat padded going 6-8 to get his 31 points.

Without irrelevant G1: 10-32 31%

Round 2: 11-34 32%. Again in a Game 5 Blowout Loss he stat padded going 4-9 to get his 42 points.

Without irrelevant G5: 7-25 28%

2012 without irrelevant 1R G1&2R G5: 17-57 30%

CLOSERRRRR!!!!
Kobe is fearless you have to give him that at least.

Red Auerbach once said he never got mad at a guy for missing a game winner because that player was still a hero to him for having the balls to take it.

[ArbitraryWater]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuZr5AN-bsM&t=7m10s

So if that one is BS, how can we trust you with any of these kiddo?

It's correct, all via B-R....

The official play by play has Kobe missing that tip.

Screenshot:

http://i.gyazo.com/96c205e6130c28ae9197856df8bc92e5.png

[TheMarkMadsen]

Kobe leading the league in 4th quarter playoff scoring for b2b titles.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=325097

Bust out the TI 84, extrapolate it to some hypothetical minutes played per percantage within a decimal kids because its time to deflect/ ignore.

[Magic 32]

Plaoyffs 4th quarters:

2004: Kobe shot 42-126 37%. With 3 minutes left it was 10-38 26%.



I wonder what was wrong with him that year. Let me think.



2006: Kobe shot 16-43 37%. With 3 minutes left it was 4-14 29%.
2007: Kobe shot 10-34 29%. With 3 minutes left it was 3-18 17%.


Ah yes, the Smush/Kwame years. Selfish and with good reasons.




2011: Kobe shot 12-39 31%. With 3 minutes left it it was 3-18 17%.
2012: Kobe shot 27-74 36%.

2012 Round 1: 16-40 40%. In a G1 Blowout loss Kobe stat padded going 6-8 to get his 31 points.


BreakingdownBe

[ArbitraryWater]

Kobe is fearless you have to give him that at least.

Red Auerbach once said he never got mad at a guy for missing a game winner because that player was still a hero to him for having the balls to take it.


That again... totally irrelevant.

Read this:

http://i.imgur.com/eCV55FP.png

[ArbitraryWater]

I wonder what was wrong with him that year. Let me think.



Ah yes, the Smush/Kwame years. Selfish and with good reasons.



BreakingdownBe

you guys cant be serious :roll: :roll:

excuses for every goddamn span of his career :oldlol:

[RRR3]

Kobe leading the league in 4th quarter playoff scoring for b2b titles.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=325097

Bust out the TI 84, extrapolate it to some hypothetical minutes played per percantage within a decimal kids because its time to deflect/ ignore.
Kobe's a great scorer not surprised. The whole idea of clutch is a bit silly in the first place. Definitely overblown in basketball circles.

[Magic 32]

It's correct, all via B-R....

The official play by play has Kobe missing that tip.

Screenshot:

http://i.gyazo.com/96c205e6130c28ae9197856df8bc92e5.png

I see you're a corporate man to the bitter f*cking end.

[ArbitraryWater]

Bust out the TI 84, extrapolate it to some hypothetical minutes played per percantage within a decimal kids because its time to deflect/ ignore.

Um, it's really just his attempts and missed... alot of misses.. alot.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Kobe's a great scorer not surprised. The whole idea of clutch is a bit silly in the first place. Definitely overblown in basketball circles.

He was also very effecient in those b2b title runs during the 4th quarter. more effecient than 97 & 98 Jordan, and only less effecient than Shaq & Dirk when looking at players who won the title

[ArbitraryWater]

Kobe with the margin less than 5 in the 4th Quarter

2011: 1-6 with 5 or fewer points in the 4th with less than 3 minutes.

2010 Finals: 4-15 28% within 5 or fewer points

2009 Finals: 6-19 32% and 2-8 under 3 minutes

2006: 7-25 28% and 3-11 27% under 3 minutes

2011 WCSF: 6-19 32% and 2-9 22% under 3 minutes in the 4th.

2011 1R: 6-20 30% in the 4th and 1-9 with under 3 minutes...11%

He was solid in 2008, though :applause:

[Magic 32]

you guys cant be serious :roll: :roll:

excuses for every goddamn span of his career :oldlol:

Or explanations to the openminded.

But you would actually have to watch him play to know these things.

Anyone who uses the 2003-04 season as proof of anything is a optimistic fraud.

[RRR3]

That again... totally irrelevant.

Read this:

http://i.imgur.com/eCV55FP.png
You can't confine " clutch" solely to final shots tho. Lets say kobe brought his team back with 18 4th qtr pts on 80% but missed the game winner? Or what if he hit the tying shot but missed the gw?

Remember I don't like Kobe either and his mythical abilities are often far from reality but you have to be reasonable at times. For the current Kobe, though, well yeah he's chucking like a madman. And it's pretty funny how bad he's shooting I must say.

[Hoopz2332]

LeBron James, Heat great in the 'clutch' (2012 lebron)

[quote]


As it pertains to the NBA, "clutch time" is defined as less than five minutes to go in the fourth quarter or overtime and the score within five points.


And right now no team is more clutch than the Miami Heat, and no player is more clutch than LeBron James.

And after Monday

[RRR3]

Kobe with the margin less than 5 in the 4th Quarter

2011: 1-6 with 5 or fewer points in the 4th with less than 3 minutes.

2010 Finals: 4-15 28% within 5 or fewer points

2009 Finals: 6-19 32% and 2-8 under 3 minutes

2006: 7-25 28% and 3-11 27% under 3 minutes

2011 WCSF: 6-19 32% and 2-9 22% under 3 minutes in the 4th.

2011 1R: 6-20 30% in the 4th and 1-9 with under 3 minutes...11%

He was solid in 2008, though :applause:
What about other years tho?

[Magic 32]

Kobe with the margin less than 5 in the 4th Quarter

2011: 1-6 with 5 or fewer points in the 4th with less than 3 minutes.

2010 Finals: 4-15 28% within 5 or fewer points

2009 Finals: 6-19 32% and 2-8 under 3 minutes

2006: 7-25 28% and 3-11 27% under 3 minutes

2011 WCSF: 6-19 32% and 2-9 22% under 3 minutes in the 4th.

2011 1R: 6-20 30% in the 4th and 1-9 with under 3 minutes...11%

He was solid in 2008, though :applause:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyjG1FJ6iQY&t=5m40s

Poor Kobe ruining his precious clutch FG% in a blowout win.

If only he could do what Lebron does in those situations.

Hold the ball for 20 seconds and pass it to Cole and Chalmers with 4 sec left.

[ArbitraryWater]

You can't confine " clutch" solely to final shots tho. Lets say kobe brought his team back with 18 4th qtr pts on 80% but missed the game winner? Or what if he hit the tying shot but missed the gw?

Remember I don't like Kobe either and his mythical abilities are often far from reality but you have to be reasonable at times. For the current Kobe, though, well yeah he's chucking like a madman. And it's pretty funny how bad he's shooting I must say.

Dude, I JUST posted his poor conversation rate going all the way back to the 5 minute mark of close games :biggums:

Here, the ENTIRE 4th quarter:

2004: Kobe shot 42-126 37%. With 3 minutes left it was 10-38 26%.
2006: Kobe shot 16-43 37%. With 3 minutes left it was 4-14 29%.
2007: Kobe shot 10-34 29%. With 3 minutes left it was 3-18 17%.
2011: Kobe shot 12-39 31%. With 3 minutes left it it was 3-18 17%.
2012: Kobe shot 27-74 36%.


PISS POOR.


Shaq years:

http://i.gyazo.com/b2dd9328383157e18b4ac56497fe3510.png
http://i.gyazo.com/8d736a6eef41a142ca79052b05fe0534.png

http://i.gyazo.com/717dfd18786b51c06528e756ae760f40.png

http://i.gyazo.com/ef826c487efd7ac7951c3cc248d492d7.png


2002 :applause:

Let's hang on to 2002 and 2008.

[TheBigVeto]

Kobe can't be the man. He's always been a complimentary player. People need to understand this. It's not his fault, it's just e way he is.

Robinbe.

[RRR3]

Dude, I JUST posted his poor conversation rate going all the way back to the 5 minute mark of close games :biggums:

Here, the ENTIRE 4th quarter:

2004: Kobe shot 42-126 37%. With 3 minutes left it was 10-38 26%.
2006: Kobe shot 16-43 37%. With 3 minutes left it was 4-14 29%.
2007: Kobe shot 10-34 29%. With 3 minutes left it was 3-18 17%.
2011: Kobe shot 12-39 31%. With 3 minutes left it it was 3-18 17%.
2012: Kobe shot 27-74 36%.


PISS POOR.


Shaq years:

http://i.gyazo.com/b2dd9328383157e18b4ac56497fe3510.png
http://i.gyazo.com/8d736a6eef41a142ca79052b05fe0534.png

http://i.gyazo.com/717dfd18786b51c06528e756ae760f40.png

http://i.gyazo.com/ef826c487efd7ac7951c3cc248d492d7.png


2002 :applause:

Let's hang on to 2002 and 2008.
All the misses were probably contested fadeaways :lol :facepalm
His shot selection kills him in crunch time

[Magic 32]

PISS POOR.



and explainable.

Enjoy your repetitions though.

But it's been done before and better (with similar little impact).

[ArbitraryWater]

All the misses were probably contested fadeaways :lol :facepalm
His shot selection kills him in crunch time

I like how you tried to defend him this whole time though :lol

[Magic 32]

I like how you tried to defend him this whole time though :lol

To be fair, people usually fail when trying to defend him.

Just ask the PRIME Spurs teams...

http://www3.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Kobe+Bryant+San+Antonio+Spurs+v+Los+Angeles+Ti4ReW HHflNl.jpg

[aj1987]

and explainable.

Enjoy your repetitions though.

But it's been done before and better (with similar little impact).
So, according to your idiotic logic, everything Kobe does (or misses in this case) is "explainable" and all of LeBron's misses are failures? You and Droid might be the dumbest of the Kobe stans on this board.

[ArbitraryWater]

To be fair, people usually fail when trying to defend him.

Just ask the PRIME Spurs teams...

http://www3.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Kobe+Bryant+San+Antonio+Spurs+v+Los+Angeles+Ti4ReW HHflNl.jpg

ok?

[Magic 32]

So, according to your idiotic logic, everything Kobe does (or misses in this case) is "explainable" and all of LeBron's misses are failures?

No. I can't explain his struggles in 2012, other than the finger injury stuff (and he had played through that before).

Flat out bad in 2011-12.

I can explain 2004, 2005-07 and 2011 however.

And so can you.

http://thesportsfanjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/kobe-bryant-courtroom.jpg

http://www.nbaarena.com/img/haberler/smush-parker-kwame-brown-lakers.jpg

http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_assets/706328/x2011-april-25-0-13-5.jpg.pagespeed.ic.viboodxfs_.jpg

http://lakersblog.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c506253ef0147e34b83e6970b-320wi

[ArbitraryWater]

Those aren't legitimate reasons you clown :facepalm

This dude handing out passes for FOUR unclutch years in 2004, 2006, 2007, 2011 :lol

http://i.gyazo.com/1fa0452132e44455746935f89e673e79.png

lolwut

[Magic 32]

Those aren't legitimate reasons you clown :facepalm

This dude handing out passes for FOUR unclutch years in 2004, 2006, 2007, 2011 :lol

That's only 21% of Kobe's career. And what are legitimate reasons to your sorry a*s?

P.S. Lebron fans handed out passes for his first 7 years, and then again in 2013 and 2014 (Miami Cavaliers).

[TheMarkMadsen]

Kobe also led the league in 4th quarter playoff scoring in 01, 02, 03 and 08.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

So what I gather from this thread, Kobe >>> LeBron? We just need a tally to confirm.

[ArbitraryWater]

That's only 21% of Kobe's career. And what are legitimate reasons to your sorry a*s?

Lebron fans handed out passes for his first 7 years, and then again in 2013 and 2014 (Miami Cavaliers).

Well, by your retarded logic that would appy, wouldn't it? But not by reality...

LeBron fans don't need any excuses.

http://i.gyazo.com/a4d2bae4bae0a66c0747cd6495675de7.png
http://i.gyazo.com/11bdcb5bcf950d978fa216547381a92e.png
http://i.gyazo.com/2029e61e8b26ae41cd0d1d686a0ff8e4.png
http://i.gyazo.com/341b2398ffa0bf6b9a82a84b7909f86c.png
http://i.gyazo.com/0818d2311b9631ec083e090805f81650.png
http://i.gyazo.com/7b907858f4582efa1f17ec313ad6da7b.png
http://i.gyazo.com/70ca64cfa9320c04c3cd8849da2b85a0.png
http://i.gyazo.com/2d6aa9d92dbd29b2b469d160e8781c0e.png

Check out that glorious efg%

2007 :eek: :bowdown:

You really don't realize how foolish you look handing out passes for every unclutch Kobe run, and totally ignoring LeBron's clutch ones?

[Magic 32]

LeBron fans don't need any excuses.


That's because they never had any.

Cramp.

[Magic 32]

So what I gather from this thread, Kobe >>> LeBron? We just need a tally to confirm.

That will hurt ArbitraryWater feelings and his Lebron layups against th least.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

That will hurt ArbitraryWater feelings and his Lebron layups against th least.

Hah! I was looking to bait him, didn't work :(

[Magic 32]

2007 :wtf: :eek: :bowdown:

Bill Simmons, 2007

The worst conference in history.

"You couldn't even call the Eastern Conference an apocalypse -- it's more like a poopocalypse"

[Hoopz2332]

no clucth stat will make kobe look good:oldlol:

[Magic 32]

no clucth stat will make kobe look good:oldlol:

https://elgee35.wordpress.com/2011/01/10/the-nbas-best-players-in-the-clutch-since-2003/

https://elgee35.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/kobe-clutch.jpg


Unlike the famous 82games game-winning shot study, Kobe Bryant and Chauncey Billups live up to their billing here. Even if some of Billups 90% increase in FTA’s are from intentionally fouling, he’s still putting teams away at the line.

Bryant was quite good down the stretch of close games from 2003-2007, but he verified his reputation as an assassin from 2008-2010. He took about 8 more shots per 36 in clutch situations (and nearly twice as many FT’s) with almost no change in his eFG%. There’s no significant improvement like Ginobili saw (or Manu’s obscene accuracy at 55.9% eFG%) but Bryant’s shooting twice as much as Ginobili and is still way above average for perimeter player accuracy.

[ArbitraryWater]

Magic32 logic: Screw all the playoff statistics pointing out Kobe's poor 4th quarter play :mad: :mad:

I got this cute lil regular season statistic right here... I'll take this one over ALLLLLLLLLL other ones in the WORLDDDDDDDDDDDD

BTW: Am I supposed to be impressed by 46.5 eFG%?

[Sharmer]

Kobe is not efficient enough to be a starting SG in this league.

He's not efficient enough for this league. He's at Euro league standards now.

[Magic 32]

I got this cute lil statistic right here... I'll take this one over ALLLLLLLLLL other ones in the WORLDDDDDDDDDDDD

http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Ricky-Gervais-Facepalm-Laugh-Reaction-Gif.gif

[aj1987]

https://elgee35.wordpress.com/2011/01/10/the-nbas-best-players-in-the-clutch-since-2003/

https://elgee35.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/kobe-clutch.jpg

According to that LeBron is more clutch than Kobe.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

[QUOTE=Magic 32]https://elgee35.wordpress.com/2011/01/10/the-nbas-best-players-in-the-clutch-since-2003/

https://elgee35.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/kobe-clutch.jpg

[I]
Unlike the famous 82games game-winning shot study, Kobe Bryant and Chauncey Billups live up to their billing here. Even if some of Billups 90% increase in FTA

[ArbitraryWater]

According to that LeBron is more clutch than Kobe.

that's the funniest thing... He ignores all of playoff statistics, full 4th quarters, close ball games, last second shots, etc. weather its ESPN, Basketball-Reference, or something else...

decides to roll with a wordpress article by "ElGee", and even HERE, LeBron is superior.... :lol

[Hoopz2332]

[QUOTE=Magic 32]https://elgee35.wordpress.com/2011/01/10/the-nbas-best-players-in-the-clutch-since-2003/

https://elgee35.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/kobe-clutch.jpg

[I]
Unlike the famous 82games game-winning shot study, Kobe Bryant and Chauncey Billups live up to their billing here. Even if some of Billups 90% increase in FTA

[Magic 32]

According to that LeBron is more clutch than Kobe.

And that's why I don't care about numbers. But two can play the game.

And we all know what happend 5 month af the that article was written. The 2011 finals.

Lebron can pass up semi-open jumpshots and make gamewinning layups against 40-42 playoffs team from now until the cows come home, Kobe is has proven to be a greater performer in big moments.

[ArbitraryWater]

And that's why I don't care about numbers. But two can play the game.

And we all know what happend 5 month af the that article was written. The 2011 finals.

Lebron can pass up semi-open jumpshots and make gamewinning layups against 40-42 playoffs team from now until the cows come home, Kobe is has proven to be a greater performer in big moments.

http://www.theclevelandfan.com/images/stories/NutbaroMeterDelusional.jpg

[Hoopz2332]

And that's why I don't care about numbers. But two can play the game.

And we all know what happend 5 month af the that article was written. The 2011 finals.

Lebron can pass up semi-open jumpshots and make gamewinning layups against 40-42 playoffs team from now until the cows come home, Kobe is has proven a great performer in big moments.


Playoff elimination games


Michael Jordan Elimination Game Averages:

31.3 PPG,

7.9 RPG,

7.0 APG,

2.1 SPG,

1.0 BPG,

4.2 TOPG,

45.8 FG%,

33.3 3P%,

75.7 FT%


.
.
.
.


LeBron James Elimination Game Averages:

31.9 PPG,


10.1 RPG,

6.5 APG,


1.4 SPG,

.6 BPG,

4.5 TOPG,

46.5 FG%,

31.4 3P%,

73.8 FT%

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.
.

Kobe Bryant Elimination Game Averages:

22.3 PPG,

5.6 RPG,

3.7 APG,

1.2 SPG,

.6 BPG,

3.0 TOPG,

41.4 FG%,

27.5 3P%,

77.9 FT%




Straight up game 7's or 5's

Michael Jordan G7 Stats:

36.8 PPG, 7.2 RPG, 6.6 APG, 1.2 SPG, 1.0 BPG, 4.0 TOPG, 48.9 FG%, 33.3 FG%, 79.7 FT%

-W/out Game 5

[Velocirap31]

ArbitraryWater won this one I think. Unfortunately, Kobe fans ignore statistics. It's nice to see proof of something I always thought should have been well known. Kobe is not clutch. He's the most glorified volume scorer in NBA history.

[Magic 32]

[QUOTE=Hoopz2332]Playoff elimination games


Michael Jordan Elimination Game Averages:

31.3 PPG,

7.9 RPG,

7.0 APG,

2.1 SPG,

1.0 BPG,

4.2 TOPG,

45.8 FG%,

33.3 3P%,

75.7 FT%


.
.
.
.


LeBron James Elimination Game Averages:

31.9 PPG,


10.1 RPG,

6.5 APG,


1.4 SPG,

.6 BPG,

4.5 TOPG,

46.5 FG%,

31.4 3P%,

73.8 FT%

.
.
.

Kobe Bryant Elimination Game Averages:

22.3 PPG,

5.6 RPG,

3.7 APG,

1.2 SPG,

.6 BPG,

3.0 TOPG,

41.4 FG%,

27.5 3P%,

77.9 FT%




Straight up game 7's or 5's

Michael Jordan G7 Stats:

36.8 PPG, 7.2 RPG, 6.6 APG, 1.2 SPG, 1.0 BPG, 4.0 TOPG, 48.9 FG%, 33.3 FG%, 79.7 FT%

-W/out Game 5

[Magic 32]

ArbitraryWater won this one I think. Unfortunately, Kobe fans ignore statistics. It's nice to see proof of something I always thought should have been well known. Kobe is not clutch. He's the most glorified volume scorer in NBA history.

To be fair, these massive blocks of info that Hoopz2332 and ArbitraryWater are presenting have been carefully selected, manipulated and worked on for almost a decade by thousands of Kobe haters.

And if you think that those elimination averages and clutch stats include game like an 18 year old Kobe vs the 1997 Utah Jazz in 5 minutes of garbage time, you are correct.

[Hoopz2332]

"Hey, man, I love the East," Bosh said, laughing.

- http://bleacherreport.com


you realize Kobe's numbers are lower vs the East

http://i.imgur.com/hUSuZaU.png

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bryanko01/splits/


and are inferior to lebron's splits against both conferences?

http://i.imgur.com/wK1Szcc.png


http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01/splits/

:pimp:

[ArbitraryWater]

To be fair, these massive blocks of info that Hoopz2332 and ArbitraryWater are presenting have been selective, manipulated and worked on for almost a decade by thousands of Kobe haters.

And if you think that those elimination averages and clutch stats include game like an 18 year old Kobe vs the 1997 jazz in 5 minutes of garbage time, you are correct.

http://oi44.tinypic.com/4kz3w9.jpg

satisfied? still bad.

[Velocirap31]

To be fair, these massive blocks of info that Hoopz2332 and ArbitraryWater are presenting have been selective, manipulated and worked on for almost a decade by thousands of Kobe haters.

And if you think that those elimination averages and clutch stats include game like Kobe vs the 97 jazz in garbage time, you are correct.

The stats are sorted by year, so one series in '97 will only affect 1997 stats. I think arguing that the stats are manipulated is being a little desperate, and ridiculous.

[Magic 32]

http://oi44.tinypic.com/4kz3w9.jpg

satisfied? still bad.

Should I take your hand and walk you through games like G7 vs the Rockts (2009).

Or would that destroy your mood?

[ArbitraryWater]

Should I take your hand and walk you through games like G7 vs the Rockts (2009).

Or would that destroy your mood?

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lyl382CVbi1qzcmtio4_500.gif

[Magic 32]

I think arguing that the stats are manipulated is being a little desperate, and ridiculous.

You can create and present very delibate numbers when you're dealing with a player who was on the bench for 3 years, played behind a superstar for 8 years, played with utter garbage in a murderous conference during his prime and was already in his 13th season when he finally had his own championship calibar team.

That kind of messy and up and down career is easier to manipulate compared to Lebron's, who's game and career is designed and calculated to within an inch of its life.

[Magic 32]

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lyl382CVbi1qzcmtio4_500.gif

Watch the game. It's on youtube.

And you are very much lthe Kanye West of this thread.

[TheMarkMadsen]

"Elimination games" is another arbitrary selective sample.

"Elimination game" should be every game which you faced elimination or eliminated another team.

For example, Lebron faced elimination in game 4 of the 07 finals. Took 30 shots, scored 24 points and his team lost by one bucket.

Yet you'll never see that game listed when looking at Lebrons elimination games

[ArbitraryWater]

Watch the game. It's on youtube.


I'm guessing your saying his 4-12 doesn't matter because they won in a blowout?

What about 2006, 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011?

[ArbitraryWater]

"Elimination games" is another arbitrary selective sample.

"Elimination game" should be every game which you faced elimination or eliminated another team.

For example, Lebron faced elimination in game 4 of the 07 finals. Took 30 shots, scored 24 points and his team lost by one bucket.

Yet you'll never see that game listed when looking at Lebrons "elimination games"

:roll:

Why is that? It's a different situation/circumstance, no?

[TheMarkMadsen]

:roll:

Why is that? It's a different situation/circumstance, no?

If your team is facing elimination, then it's an elimination game..

If you want to label what you're presenting as "games both teams faced elimination" then fine.


But it doesn't encompass Kobes stats for ever game he faced elimination

[ArbitraryWater]

If your team is facing elimination, then it's an elimination game..

Exaclty... Elimination Games = Back against your wall, trying to HOLD OFF THE END OF YOUR SEASON....

Logically, thats a totally different situation than closing a team out in a winning spot, right?

What's wrong with seperating the 2? You don't like the fact Kobe stinks in elimination games?

Glad we can agree here.

[Magic 32]

I'm guessing your saying his 4-12 doesn't matter because they won in a blowout?

What about 2006, 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011?

2006?

He tried in the first half. 21 points on 55% shooting.

Down big he gave up. Not honorable but not a bad performence.

[coin24]

Kobe.. No fu*ks given, living rent free in f@ggots like jameers head (arbitrarywater):lol :lol

[TheMarkMadsen]

Exaclty... Elimination Games = Back against your wall, trying to HOLD OFF THE END OF YOUR SEASON....

Logically, thats a totally different situation than closing a team out in a winning spot, right?

What's wrong with seperating the 2? You don't like the fact Kobe stinks in elimination games?

Glad we can agree here.

So closing series out before it gets to the point of elimination for both teams is a bad thing?

Anytime either team faces elimination, it's an elimination game.

What's the difference between closing out a series in 6, and losin game 6 and being forced to close it out in 7. Do you really think option 2 is more clutch?

:roll: :roll:

So Lebron laying an egg in the in the 2013 finals up until the OT of game 6 & game 7 somehow makes him more clutch than a guy who consistently played well throughout the series and closed the thing out in 5 or 6?

Should we look into the fact that Jordan never proved himself in an elimination game during the finals like Lebron did.. Or should we look into the fact that Jordan never had to prove himself in a finals "elimination game".. Yeah

What's funny is that you have games like game 6 listed as an elimination game for Kobe, but by your own criteria that wasnt an elimination game for Boston.. Although I'm sure they felt differently..

Also your chart is tough to take seriously when you have the same game listed twice with two different sets of stats

And going by your own criteria, Lebron game 4 of the 07 finals would count as an elimination game, yet is never listed as such

[Hoopz2332]

:roll:

Why is that? It's a different situation/circumstance, no?


kobe stans:oldlol:

[Hoopz2332]

"Elimination games" is another arbitrary selective sample.

"Elimination game" should be every game which you faced elimination or eliminated another team.

For example, Lebron faced elimination in game 4 of the 07 finals. Took 30 shots, scored 24 points and his team lost by one bucket.

Yet you'll never see that game listed when looking at Lebrons elimination games



elimination games are WIN OR GO HOME for YOU!

[Hoopz2332]

you realize Kobe's numbers are lower vs the East

http://i.imgur.com/hUSuZaU.png

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bryanko01/splits/


and are inferior to lebron's splits against both conferences?

http://i.imgur.com/wK1Szcc.png


http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01/splits/

:pimp:

Magic, don't avoid this post. Speak on it:D

[Mr Feeny]

Magic, don't avoid this post. Speak on it:D

:eek:

[Hoopz2332]

"Elimination games" is another arbitrary selective sample.

"Elimination game" should be every game which you faced elimination or eliminated another team.

For example, Lebron faced elimination in game 4 of the 07 finals. Took 30 shots, scored 24 points and his team lost by one bucket.

Yet you'll never see that game listed when looking at Lebrons elimination games


wts are you talking about? That IS included in his elimination stats. Going into last season these were his numbers




MJ, Kobe, LBJ, Wade, & Duncan Elimination Game Stats

Elimination Game Stats – Michael Jordan: 6 Wins, 7 Losses
85’ G3 vs. MIL – 35 PTS, 8 RBS, 7 AST, 4 STL, 1 BLK, 3 TOV, 12/26 FG, 0/1 3P, 11/16 FT
85’ G4 vs. MIL – 29 PTS, 7 RBS, 5 AST, 2 STL, 2 BLK, 4 TOV, 6/16 FG, 0/2 3P, 17/20 FT
86’ G3 vs. BOS – 19 PTS, 10 RBS, 9 AST, 2 STL, 1 BLK 5 TOV, 8/18 FG, 1/1 3P, 2/3 FT
87’ G3 vs. BOS – 30 PTS, 11 RBS, 7 AST 2 STL 1 BLK, 2 TOV, 9/30 FG, 0/1 3P, 12/14 FT
88’ G5 vs. CLE – 39 PTS, 4 RBS, 6 AST, 2 STL, 2 BLK, 7 TOV, 12/22 FG, 0/0 3P, 15/18 FT
88’ G5 vs. DET – 25 PTS, 8 RBS, 8 AST, 2 STL, 0 BLK, 3 TOV, 10/22 FG, 1/2 3P, 4/7 FT
89’ G5 vs. CLE – 44 PTS, 9 RBS, 6 AST, 1 STL, 0 BLK, 2 TOV, 17/32 FG, 1/1 3P, 9/13 FT
89’ G6 vs. DET – 32 PTS, 4 RBS, 13 AST, 3 STL, 2 BLK, 8 TOV, 13/26 FG, 1/2 3P, 5/12 FT
90’ G6 vs. DET – 29 PTS, 10 RBS, 2 AST, 1 STL, 0 BLK, 3 TOV, 11/20 FG, 1/4 3P, 6/6 FT
90’ G7 vs. DET – 31 PTS, 8 RBS, 9 AST, 1 STL, 0 BLK, 4 TOV, 13/27 FG, 0/2 3P, 5/5 FT
92’ G7 vs. NYK – 42 PTS, 6 RBS, 4 AST, 3 STL, 0 BLK, 5 TOV, 15/29 FG, 0/0 3P, 12/13 FT
95’ G6 vs. ORL – 24 PTS, 9 RBS, 7 AST, 4 STL, 4 BLK, 6 TOV, 8/19 FG, 1/2 3P, 7/10 FT
98’ G7 vs. IND – 28 PTS, 9 RBS, 8 AST, 0 STL, 0 BLK, 2 TOV, 9/25 FG, 0/0 3P, 10/15 FT

Elimination Game Stats – Kobe Bryant: 9 Wins, 10 Losses
97’ G5 vs. UTA – 11 PTS, 2 RBS, 2 AST, 1 STL, 0 BLK, 1 TOV, 4/14 FG, 0/6 3P, 3/3 FT
98’ G4 vs. UTA – 6 PTS, 1 RBS, 0 AST, 1 STL, 1 BLK, 3 TOV, 2/2 FG, 0/0 3P, 2/2 FT
99’ G4 vs. SAS – 16 PTS, 5 RBS, 8 AST, 0 STL, 0 BLK, 3 TOV, 7/16 FG, 1/3 3P, 1/2 FT
00’ G5 vs. SAC – 17 PTS, 2 RBS, 6 AST, 0 STL, 3 BLK, 1 TOV, 7/16 FG, 1/5 3P, 2/2 FT
00’ G7 vs. POR – 25 PTS, 11 RBS, 7 AST, 0 STL, 4 BLK, 2 TOV, 9/19 FG, 1/4 3P, 6/12 FT
02’ G6 vs. SAC – 31 PTS, 11 RBS, 5 AST, 0 STL, 0 BLK, 1 TOV, 10/20 FG, 0/0 3P, 11/11 FT
02’ G7 vs. SAC – 30 PTS, 10 RBS, 7 AST, 2 STL, 0 BLK, 0 TOV, 10/26 FG, 2/3 3P, 8/10 FT
03’ G6 vs. SAS – 20 PTS, 2 RBS, 6 AST, 1 STL, 0 BLK, 7 TOV, 9/19 FG, 2/5 3P, 0/2 FT
04’ G5 vs. DET – 24 PTS, 3 RBS, 4 AST, 1 STL, 0 BLK, 3 TOV, 7/21 FG, 0/2 3P, 10/11 FT
06’ G7 vs. PHX – 24 PTS, 4 RBS, 1 AST, 0 STL, 1 BLK, 3 TOV, 8/16 FG, 4/8 3P, 4/5 FT
07’ G5 vs. PHX – 34 PTS, 4 RBS, 1 AST, 1 STL, 0 BLK, 6 TOV, 13/33 FG, 2/8 3P, 6/7 FT
08’ G5 vs. BOS – 25 PTS, 7 RBS, 4 AST, 5 STL, 0 BLK, 6 TOV, 8/21 FG, 4/9 3P, 5/7 FT
08’ G6 vs. BOS – 22 PTS, 3 RBS, 1 AST, 1 STL, 0 BLK, 4 TOV, 7/22 FG, 3/9 3P 5/5 FT
09’ G7 vs. HOU – 14 PTS, 7 RBS, 5 AST, 3 STL, 2 BLK, 1 TOV, 4/12 FG, 1/4 3P, 5/6 FT
10’ G6 vs. BOS – 26 PTS, 11 RBS, 3 AST, 4 STL, 0 BLK, 2 TOV, 9/19 FG, 1/4 3P, 7/7 FT
10’ G7 vs. BOS – 23 PTS, 15 RBS, 2 AST, 1 STL, 0 BLK, 4 TOV, 6/24 FG, 0/6 3P, 11/15 FT
11’ G4 vs. DAL – 17 PTS, 3 RBS, 1 AST, 0 STL, 0 BLK, 5 TOV, 7/18 FG, 0/5 3P, 3/4 FT
12’ G7 vs. DEN – 17 PTS, 1 RBS, 8 AST, 0 STL, 1 BLK, 3 TOV, 7/16 FG, 2/4 3P, 1/4 FT
12’ G5 vs. OKC – 42 PTS, 5 RBS, 0 AST, 2 STL, 0 BLK, 2 TOV, 18/33 FG, 1/6 3P, 5/7 FT

Elimination Game Stats – Dwyane Wade: 8 Wins, 6 Losses
04’ G7 vs. NOH – 12 PTS, 4 RBS, 7 AST, 2 STL, 0 BLK, 4 TOV, 5/18 FG, 0/1 3P, 2/2 FT
04’ G6 vs. IND – 24 PTS, 2 RBS, 2 AST, 3 STL, 2 BLK, 4 TOV, 10/16 FG, 0/0 3P, 4/4 FT
05’ G7 vs. DET – 20 PTS, 1 RBS, 4 AST, 1 STL, 0 BLK, 5 TOV, 7/20 FG, 0/1 3P, 6/7 FT
07’ G4 vs. CHI – 24 PTS, 5 RBS, 10 AST, 0 STL, 1 BLK, 7 TOV, 8/22 FG, 0/2 3P, 8/9 FT
09’ G6 vs. ATL – 41 PTS, 5 RBS, 2 AST, 0 STL, 2 BLK, 3 TOV, 11/23 FG, 3/7 3P, 16/17 FT
09’ G7 vs. ATL – 31 PTS, 3 RBS, 4 AST, 1 STL, 2 BLK, 4TOV, 10/25 FG, 2/9 3P, 9/9 FT
10’ G4 vs. BOS – 46 PTS, 5 RBS, 5 AST, 2 STL, 0 BLK, 6 TOV, 16/24 FG, 5/7 3P, 9/14 FT
10’ G5 vs. BOS – 31 PTS, 8 RBS, 10 AST, 1 STL, 2 BLK, 7 TOV, 10/24 FG, 2/7 3P, 9/10 FT
11’ G6 vs. DAL – 17 PTS, 8 RBS, 6 AST, 1 STL, 2 BLK, 5 TOV, 6/16 FG, 0/4 3P, 5/7 FT
12’ G6 vs. BOS – 17 PTS, 8 RBS, 4 AST, 3 STL, 0 BLK, 3 TOV, 6/17 FG, 0/0 3P, 5/5 FT
12’ G7 vs. BOS – 23 PTS, 6 RBS, 6 AST, 1 STL, 0 BLK, 3 TOV, 8/17 FG, 0/2 3P, 7/8 FT
13’ G7 vs. IND – 21 PTS, 9 RBS, 1 AST, 2 STL, 1 BLK, 4 TOV, 7/17 FG, 0/0 3P, 7/7 FT
13’ G6 vs. SAS – 14 PTS, 4 RBS, 4 AST, 0 STL, 2 BLK, 3 TOV, 6/15 FG, 0/0 3P, 2/2 FT
13’ G7 vs. SAS – 23 PTS, 10 RBS, 1 AST, 1 STL, 2 BLK, 4 TOV, 11/21 FG, 0/0 3P, 1/2 FT

Elimination Game Stats – LeBron James: 7 Wins, 6 Losses
06’ G7 vs. DET – 27 PTS, 8 RBS, 2 AST, 1 STL, 0 BLK, 3 TOV, 11/24 FG, 0/4 3P, 5/8 FT
07’ G4 vs. SAS – 24 PTS, 6 RBS, 10 AST, 0 STL, 0 BLK, 6 TOV, 10/30 FG, 2/7 3P, 2/6 FT
08’ G6 vs. BOS – 32 PTS, 12 RBS, 6 AST, 2 STL, 1 BLK, 8 TOV, 9/23 FG, 1/3 3P, 13/15 FT
08’ G7 vs. BOS – 45 PTS, 5 RBS, 6 AST, 2 STL, 0 BLK, 2 TOV, 14/29 FG, 3/11 3P, 14/19 FT
09’ G5 vs. ORL – 37 PTS, 14 RBS, 12 AST, 1 STL, 1 BLK, 4 TOV, 11/24 FG, 0/2 3P, 15/19 FT
09’ G6 vs. ORL – 25 PTS, 6 RBS, 7 AST, 0 STL, 1 BLK, 3 TOV, 8/20 FG, 2/8 3P, 2/4 FT
10’ G6 vs. BOS – 27 PTS, 19 RBS, 10 AST, 3 STL, 1 BLK, 9 TOV, 8/21 FG, 2/4 3P, 9/12 FT
11’ G6 vs. DAL – 21 PTS, 4 RBS, 6 AST, 1 STL, 1 BLK, 6 TOV, 9/15 FG, 2/5 3P, 1/4 FT
12’ G6 vs. BOS – 45 PTS, 15 RBS, 5 AST, 0 STL, 0 BLK, 4 TOV, 19/26 FG, 2/4 3P, 5/9 FT
12’ G7 vs. BOS – 31 PTS, 12 RBS, 2 AST, 1 STL, 1 BLK, 3 TOV, 9/21 FG, 1/5 3P, 12/17 FT
13’ G7 vs. IND – 32 PTS, 8 RBS, 4 AST, 2 STL, 1 BLK, 2 TOV, 8/17 FG, 1/2 3P, 15/16 FT
13’ G6 vs. SAS – 32 PTS, 10 RBS, 11 AST, 3 STL, 1 BLK, 6 TOV, 11/26 FG, 1/5 3P, 9/12 FT
13’ G7 vs. SAS – 37 PTS, 12 RBS, 4 AST, 2 STL, 0 BLK, 2 TOV, 12/23 FG, 5/10 3P, 8/8 FT

Elimination Game Stats – Tim Duncan: 6 Wins, 11 Losses
98’ G5 vs. UTA – 14 PTS, 11 RBS, 0 AST, 0 STL, 2 BLK, 3 TOV, 5/10 FG, 0/0 3P, 4/6 FT
01’ G4 vs. LAL – 15 PTS, 7 RBS, 1 AST, 0 STL, 4 BLK, 2 TOV, 5/10 FG, 0/0 3P, 5/9 FT
02’ G5 vs. SEA – 23 PTS, 9 RBS, 3 AST, 0 STL, 7 BLK, 2 TOV, 9/19 FG, 0/0 3P, 5/5 FT
02’ G5 vs. LAL – 34 PTS, 25 RBS, 4 AST, 1 STL, 2 BLK, 6 TOV, 11/23 FG, 0/0 3P, 12/14 FT
04’ G6 vs. LAL – 20 PTS, 11 RBS, 2 AST, 2 STL, 1 BLK, 2 TOV, 7/18 FG, 0/1 3P, 6/8 FT
05’ G7 vs. DET – 25 PTS, 11 RBS, 3 AST, 0 STL, 2 BLK, 5 TOV, 10/27 FG, 0/0 3P, 6/6 FT
06’ G6 vs. DAL – 24 PTS, 8 RBS, 1 AST, 1 STL, 1 BLK, 3 TOV, 8/21 FG, 0/0 3P, 8/10 FT
06’ G7 vs. DAL – 41 PTS, 15 RBS, 6 AST, 1 STL, 3 BLK, 3 TOV, 12/24 FG, 0/1 3P, 17/23 FT
08’ G6 vs. NOH – 20 PTS, 15 RBS, 6 AST, 0 STL, 2 BLK, 1 TOV, 7/14 FG, 0/0 3P, 6/8 FT
08’ G7 vs. NOH – 16 PTS, 14 RBS, 3 AST, 1 STL, 0 BLK, 4 TOV, 5/17 FG, 0/1 3P, 6/6 FT
08’ G5 vs. LAL – 19 PTS, 15 RBS, 10 AST, 0 STL, 1 BLK, 2 TOV, 7/19 FG, 0/1 3P, 5/10 FT
09’ G5 vs. DAL – 30 PTS, 8 RBS, 1 AST, 1 STL, 2 BLK, 0 TOV, 14/21 FG, 0/0 3P, 2/6 FT
10’ G4 vs. PHX – 17 PTS, 8 RBS, 2 AST, 2 STL, 3 BLK, 3 TOV, 7/14 FG, 0/1 3P, 3/7 FT
11’ G5 vs. MEM – 13 PTS, 12 RBS, 3 AST, 1 STL, 1 BLK, 3 TOV, 5/13 FG, 0/0 3P, 3/4 FT
11’ G6 vs. MEM – 12 PTS, 10 RBS, 3 AST, 1 STL, 3 BLK, 5 TOV, 5/13 FG, 0/0 3P, 2/2 FT
12’ G6 vs. OKC – 25 PTS, 14 RBS, 2 AST, 1 STL, 2 BLK, 2 TOV, 11/23 FG, 0/0 3P, 3/4 FT
13’ G7 vs. MIA – 24 PTS, 12 RBS, 2 ST, 4 STL, 1 BLK, 3 TOV, 8/18 FG, 0/0 3P, 8/8 FT

Michael Jordan EG Averages:
31.3 PPG, 7.9 RPG, 7.0 APG, 2.1 SPG, 1.0 BPG, 4.2 TOPG, 45.8 FG%, 33.3 3P%, 75.7 FT%

Kobe Bryant EG Averages:
22.3 PPG, 5.6 RPG, 3.7 APG, 1.2 SPG, .6 BPG, 3.0 TOPG, 41.4 FG%, 27.5 3P%, 77.9 FT%

Dwyane Wade EG Averages:
24.6 PPG, 5.6 RPG, 4.7 APG, 1.3 SPG, 1.1 BPG, 4.4 TOPG, 44. 0 FG%, 30.0 3P%, 87.4 FT%

LeBron James EG Averages:
31.9 PPG, 10.1 RPG, 6.5 APG, 1.4 SPG, .6 BPG, 4.5 TOPG, 46.5 FG%, 31.4 3P%, 73.8 FT%

Tim Duncan EG Averages:
21.9 PPG, 12.1 RPG, 3.1 APG, .9 SPG, 2.2 BPG, 2.9 TOPG, 44.7 FG%, 0.0 3P%, 74.3 FT%

Best PPG: LeBron James – 31.9 Best RPG: Tim Duncan – 12.1

Best APG: Michael Jordan – 7.0 Best SPG: Michael Jordan – 2.1

Best BPG: Tim Duncan – 2.2 Best TOPG: Tim Duncan – 2.9

Best FG%: LeBron James – 46.5 % Best 3P%: Michael Jordan – 33.3%

Best FT%: Dwyane Wade – 87.4% Best Win %: Dwyane Wade – 57.1%

Single Game Highs-

Most Points: Dwyane Wade – 46 Most Rebounds: Tim Duncan – 25

Most Assists: Michael Jordan – 13 Most Steals: Kobe Bryant – 5

Most Blocks: Tim Duncan – 7 Most Turnovers: LeBron James – 9

Most FG Made: LeBron James – 19 Most FG ATT: Kobe Bryant – 33

Most 3P Made: LeBron James – 5 Most 3P ATT: LeBron James – 11
& Dwyane Wade – 5
Most FT Made: Tim Duncan – 17 Most FT ATT: Tim Duncan – 23
& Michael Jordan – 17

Incase you're wondering, yes, I did a similar thread not too long ago. Only it included PPG and FG%; this one includes APG, RPG, SPG, BPG, 3P%, FT%, and a couple games that I missed on the last thread, I also included Michael Jordan. These stats are more accurate. If you wish to use these stats in any other thread, website, or some other use, go right ahead. Again, if you see any mistakes, please point them out so that they can be corrected.

Now, any surprises to you? Who do you think was the best? Anyone else I should add?

*all stats are per Basketball Reference, accurate as of June 20, 2013.

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Kobestans should never get into an argument with Hoopz2332, dude is on another level.


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