OKC would not have beaten Miami in 2013 or 2014

[JohnMax]

OKC is too dumb and disorganized

[3ball]

miami was practically a so-so team in 2014... they made the Finals only because the East is the weakest it's ever been... also, they made it in part because of their reputation.

teams played scared against the heat, mistakenly believing they were going to 3-peat (indiana's vogel mistakenly predicting lebron's ascension to 3-peat/jordan status).

but in reality, the jig was up... the spurs had made a couple tweaks to their gameplan from 2013 and figured out lebron-ball.. it's not like the spurs ADDED any personnel in 2014 - they just improved their gameplan, while lebron-ball stayed it's rigid, predictable self.

and now other teams are aware that lebron-ball can get destroyed, so they won't be mistakenly intimidated like vogel was last year.
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[Nash]

I believe so too. Thunder can't expose Miami/current Cleveland's weaknesses inside.
If Cleveland got Thunder in the finals this year it would be their best shot at winning.

[3ball]

The 2014 Heat would not have made the playoffs in the West... :confusedshrug:

[Micku]

The 2014 Heat would not have made the playoffs in the West... :confusedshrug:

lol!

They were 66% against the West and 65% against the East. It's not like the West was their achilles heel. They would've made the playoffs. There were a couple of teams that I think were capable of beating the Heat. The Spurs and Memphis. The Spurs had the offense that will break down the Heat's defense and they could defend them more than the Heat could defend them that year.

Memphis is better than the Pacers. They would be able to punish the Heat inside more and had the defense to contain them.

[sportjames23]

miami was practically a so-so team in 2014... they made the Finals only because the East is the weakest it's ever been... also, they made it in part because of their reputation.

teams played scared against the heat, mistakenly believing they were going to 3-peat (indiana's vogel mistakenly predicting lebron's ascension to 3-peat/jordan status).

but in reality, the jig was up... the spurs had made a couple tweaks to their gameplan from 2013 and figured out lebron-ball.. it's not like the spurs ADDED any personnel in 2014 - they just improved their gameplan, while lebron-ball stayed it's rigid, predictable self.

and now other teams are aware that lebron-ball can get destroyed, so they won't be mistakenly intimidated like vogel was last year.
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Vogel said that shit? :facepalm

[Nash]

The 2014 Heat would not have made the playoffs in the West... :confusedshrug:
MJ would be Demar Derozan level in todays NBA..:confusedshrug:

[Hoopz2332]

Heat would have smoked them easily. Thunder are too dumb of a team to beat Miami with iso ball. Only team ball/passing could expose the heats trapping D.

[guy]

OKC is too dumb and disorganized

Its really not that complicated, but this is exactly what they were. Maybe not as much anymore, but we will see.

[navy]

The 2014 Heat would not have made the playoffs in the West... :confusedshrug:
:biggums:

[Young X]

If they kept Harden they would've won in 2013.

[SpecialQue]

No shit.

[Ramza]

MJ would be Demar Derozan level in todays NBA..:confusedshrug:
He's right. Modern 2010s humans are way more advanced than 90s players. :confusedshrug:

[Megabox!]

The 2014 Heat would not have made the playoffs in the West... :confusedshrug:
Dumbass

[VengefulAngel]

I actually agree, the Spur's and Memphis both have someone capable of guarding the big 3. OKC could never find anyone to guard Lebron effectively, the Heat rested the big 3 the last 5 games of the season so they actually were a 57-58 win team.

[Budadiiii]

Durant only has to win 1 ring to be considered GOAT.

1 ring with Scott Brooks is equivalent to like 8 regular rings

[VengefulAngel]

Durant only has to win 1 ring to be considered GOAT.

1 ring with Scott Brooks is equivalent to like 8 regular rings

OKC are so fcking cheap it's disgusting, he's one of the worst coaches in the NBA.

[3ball]

so itt, everyone has decided to ignore that OKC played the Spurs closer than any opponent in last year's playoffs (even without Ibaka for 2 games), while the Heat got beat worse than any team ever has?

OKC crushes the Heat last year, just like Houston, Portland, Dallas, Clippers and Golden State would have.

[KirbyPls]

so itt, everyone has decided to ignore that OKC played the Spurs closer than any opponent in last year's playoffs (even without Ibaka for 2 games), while the Heat got beat worse than any team ever has?

OKC crushes the Heat last year, just like Houston, Portland, Dallas, Clippers and Golden State would have.

Styles make fights, and OKC's style in the past three years made them a favorable match up for the Heat.

[3ball]

Styles make fights, and OKC's style in the past three years made them a favorable match up for the Heat.
:facepalm.. this isn't boxing - but you are willing to liken the two sports in your mind in order to satisfy your bias.

[Kvnzhangyay]

this isn't boxing - your post reveals that you would liken the two sports in your mind in order to satisfy your bias.

He may be biased, but EVERYONE is biased, whether we like it or not

He does make a good point though, in basketball its all about matchups

[ArbitraryWater]

:facepalm.. this isn't boxing - but you are willing to liken the two sports in your mind in order to satisfy your bias.

Um, except it IS about Matchups.. :facepalm

And Dallas came closer to beating Spurs than OKC, ALOT closer.

OKC got BLOWN OUT in 3 of their 4 losses.

[3ball]

He may be biased, but EVERYONE is biased, whether we like it or not

He does make a good point though, in basketball its all about matchups
oh come on, after we all watched the Heat get completely obliterated by the Spurs, you know damn well that you wouldn't put one penny of your own money on the Heat over OKC.

that would be the dumbest bet ever, and you know it.

stop babying lebron and his teams... it's cringeworthy.

[Kvnzhangyay]

oh come on, after we all saw the Heat get completely embarrassed by the Spurs, you know damn well that you wouldn't put one penny of your own money on the Heat over OKC.

that would be the dumbest bet ever, and you know it.

stop babying lebron and his teams... it's cringeworthy.

Since when did I talk about Heat or OKC?

[russwest0]

Anyone who doesn't think that OKC would have beaten Miami last year guaranteed and most likely in 2013 is retarded.

The real finals last year came in the WCF.

[Cocaine80s]

Anyone who doesn't think that OKC would have beaten Miami last year guaranteed and most likely in 2013 is retarded.

The real finals last year came in the WCF.
So Durant now 0-2 in the finals?

[russwest0]

So Durant now 0-2 in the finals?

he's 0-1. 2012 is the biggest asterisk finals win since 2006.

[Megabox!]

he's 0-1. 2012 is the biggest asterisk finals win since 2006.
Yea that 2012 WCF was a disgrace. The refs totally screwed over the Spurs

[yarrak]

so itt, everyone has decided to ignore that OKC played the Spurs closer than any opponent in last year's playoffs (even without Ibaka for 2 games), while the Heat got beat worse than any team ever has?

OKC crushes the Heat last year, just like Houston, Portland, Dallas, Clippers and Golden State would have.

So what idiot? Every team is different. Just because OKC played well against Spurs doesn't mean they could beat the heat.

It's all about match-ups and the way teams are built. What killed the heat in the finals was Spurs" ball movement. Heat-Okc finals would have been a totally different story if it happened. OKC doesn't have that kind of ball movement.

Considering your low iq and lack of basketball knowledge, I'm not surprised with your dvmb comments.

Saying that the Heat wouldn't make the playoffs in West just takes your stupidity to a whole another level.

Close minded fvck.

[3ball]

So what idiot? Every team is different. Just because OKC played well against Spurs doesn't mean they could beat the heat.

It's all about match-ups and the way teams are built. What killed the heat in the finals was Spurs" ball movement. Heat-Okc finals would have been a totally different story if it happened. OKC doesn't have that kind of ball movement.

Considering your low iq and lack of basketball knowledge, I'm not surprised with your dvmb comments.

Saying that the Heat wouldn't make the playoffs in West just takes your stupidity to a whole another level.

Close minded fvck.
i might agree if the difference wasn't so severe - the Heat lost to the Spurs worse than anyone has ever lost, but OKC was missing Ibaka for the first two games and still took the Spurs to the 2nd overtime of game 6.

to ignore these factors is bias of the worst, cherry-picking kind.

[Real14]

MJ would be Demar Derozan level in todays NBA..:confusedshrug:
:biggums:

[Kvnzhangyay]

i might agree if the difference wasn't so severe - the Heat lost to the Spurs worse than anyone has ever lost, but OKC was missing Ibaka for the first two games and still took the Spurs to the 2nd overtime of game 6.

to ignore these factors is bias of the worst, cherry-picking kind.

At the same time, it once agains goes to matchups, though

For example, remember when everyone thought Boston was going to beat Miami in ECF? While OKC backdoor swept Spurs 4-2? Everyone thought Miami was going to get DESTROYED by OKC, but the matchups said differently :confusedshrug:

[TheBigVeto]

As long as OKC has Westbrook they aren't beating anybody in the finals.

[RagaZ]

Thunder were lucky af just to be in the WCF last season.

Clippers bottled that series.

[ninephive]

miami was practically a so-so team in 2014... they made the Finals only because the East is the weakest it's ever been... also, they made it in part because of their reputation.

teams played scared against the heat, mistakenly believing they were going to 3-peat (indiana's vogel mistakenly predicting lebron's ascension to 3-peat/jordan status).

but in reality, the jig was up... the spurs had made a couple tweaks to their gameplan from 2013 and figured out lebron-ball.. it's not like the spurs ADDED any personnel in 2014 - they just improved their gameplan, while lebron-ball stayed it's rigid, predictable self.

and now other teams are aware that lebron-ball can get destroyed, so they won't be mistakenly intimidated like vogel was last year.
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The 2014 Heat were not a bad team. The Spurs played as good as they absolutely possibly could. Lebron still played very very good (incredible shooting from the field), but the Spurs went NBA Jam he's on fire mode. When a team shoots like 75% and most of those shots are outside jumpers, there's not just a whole lot you can do. The Spurs offense in that series was like nothing I've ever seen before (been watching basketball since the late 80's.

[ninephive]

As long as OKC has Westbrook they aren't beating anybody in the finals.
Exactly, his play looks spectacular, but at the end of the day his awful shooting from the field really hurts his team.

[SouBeachTalents]

At the same time, it once agains goes to matchups, though

For example, remember when everyone thought Boston was going to beat Miami in ECF? While OKC backdoor swept Spurs 4-2? Everyone thought Miami was going to get DESTROYED by OKC, but the matchups said differently :confusedshrug:

Even with Bosh coming off an injury, the Heat were definitely the favorites in that series

http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2012/matchup/_/teams/heat-celtics

[russwest0]

Even with Bosh coming off an injury, the Heat were definitely the favorites in that series

http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2012/matchup/_/teams/heat-celtics

Yup. Literally EVERYONE there had the Heat winning the series with only two having it going to seven games.

Bran stans trying to rewrite history though... :oldlol:

[Spurs5Rings2014]

Yea that 2012 WCF was a disgrace. The refs totally screwed over the Spurs

:mad:

[KirbyPls]

Yup. Literally EVERYONE there had the Heat winning the series with only two having it going to seven games.

Bran stans trying to rewrite history though... :oldlol:

Better than KD stans' history based on "what ifs," when he's not even the alpha on his own squad.

2/5 > 0/1 (3/3:"what if things had been different :cry: ") :lol