True or false: Dwyane Wade is still a top 10 player

[RRR3]

https://cdn.evbuc.com/eventlogos/98052713/dwyanewade201290todsgt.jpg


23/4/6/1/1 on 52/43/68 in 33 MPG :applause:

[FKAri]

As long as YOU believe he is. That's what's important.

[VengefulAngel]

As long as YOU believe he is. That's what's important.

Lol, if he played every game I would have to say yes, but he doesn't so no. Top 10 player's are required to be there for their team every game. Wade's body can't stand 82 games and the playoffs anymore. Sad, but true.

[ArbitraryWater]

hasn't been since 2011.

[VengefulAngel]

hasn't been since 2011.

In 2012 he was a top 10 player, 2013 is close also, stop trolling.

[plowking]

I'm one of his biggest fans, but no. He is the 2nd best SG though. Still a top player.

You have players like Lebron, Durant, AD, Cousins, Westbrook, Paul, Griffin, Curry, Harden, Dwight who are all better, so you can't say he is top 10.

[Nuff Said]

He's still a great player when he plays but he's limited so can't really say he's still top 10. It's the story of his life. His peak play is superb, it's just his longevity that is lacking. But he can still be as productive as any other player just not over a long period of time.

[Dresta]

hasn't been since 2011.
You've always been a primo ****ing moron on this site. Barely better than that dubeta piece of shite you are.

[Spurs5Rings2014]

You've always been a primo ****ing moron on this site. Barely better than that dubeta piece of shite you are.

:lebronamazed:

[ArbitraryWater]

In 2012 he was a top 10 player, 2013 is close also, stop trolling.

Yep, he actually was top 10 in 2012.. but not 2013, and it isn't that close. Neither last year, or this year.

[aj1987]

Yep, he actually was top 10 in 2012.. but not 2013, and it isn't that close. Neither last year, or this year.
:facepalm

He was one of the major reasons why Miami went on that streak. He was really good defensively and super clutch. Averaged 21/5/5/2/1 on 52%. He was injured and sucked in the Playoffs, but was a beast in the RS.

[ArbitraryWater]

:facepalm

He was one of the major reasons why Miami went on that streak. He was really good defensively and super clutch. Averaged 21/5/5/2/1 on 52%. He was injured and sucked in the Playoffs, but was a beast in the RS.

LeBron/Durant/Curry/Parker/Kobe/Howard/Paul/Westbrook/Anthony/Gasol >

[aj1987]

LeBron/Durant/Curry/Parker/Kobe/Howard/Paul/Westbrook/Anthony/Gasol >
:facepalm

Dwight Howard? :oldlol:

[ArbitraryWater]

:facepalm

Dwight Howard? :oldlol:

Imagine a LeBron/Howard combo http://hoops-nation.com/community/public/style_emoticons/default/childplease.png

[Dresta]

Yep, he actually was top 10 in 2012.. but not 2013, and it isn't that close. Neither last year, or this year.
You changed your tune quick. That is a more reasonable position, though he was clearly still top-10 during the 2013 regular season.

[Dresta]

Imagine a LeBron/Howard combo http://hoops-nation.com/community/public/style_emoticons/default/childplease.png
If the 2011 Heat was Wade/Bosh/Howard they would undoubtedly have won a title in 11. So, extending the logic, Howard>Bron in 2011?

[aj1987]

Imagine a LeBron/Howard combo http://hoops-nation.com/community/public/style_emoticons/default/childplease.png
Still doesn't mean that he was better than Wade in '13. Neither was Parker, Curry, or Gasol. Also, you said Wade was not a top 10 player "and it isn't that close". Wade was arguably better than all those players. People were calling him a top 5 player in the league before the Playoffs.

LeBron stans...:facepalm

[VengefulAngel]

Still doesn't mean that he was better than Wade in '13. Neither was Parker, Curry, or Gasol.

LeBron stans...:facepalm

I don't understand why they can't give Dwyane Wade credit, without him Lebron would have zero rings right now.

[T_L_P]

Howard>Bron in 2011?

:confusedshrug:

[ArbitraryWater]

http://hoops-nation.com/community/public/style_emoticons/default/childplease.png

I guess I see the argument for Wade over Curry/Gasol in the regular season, but these guys were alot better in the playoffs... Difference maker for me. And LeBron/Howard would probably finish the Pacers in 5.

Not even hating, dawwwwggg.

[VengefulAngel]

http://hoops-nation.com/community/public/style_emoticons/default/childplease.png

I guess I see the argument for Wade over Curry/Gasol in the regular season, but these guys were alot better in the playoffs... Difference maker for me. And LeBron/Howard would probably finish the Pacers in 5.

Not even hating, dawwwwggg.

Lebron with Dwight ends up with same ring count as Lebron and Wade...

[ArbitraryWater]

Lebron with Dwight ends up with same ring count as Lebron and Wade...

Possibly, although, no, they win in 2011... They would compliment themselves twice as good. Howard at his peak that year... 23/14 on 60% with DPOTY defense... showed a variety of post moves, too. Gets glossed over alot.

Also, winning doesn't equal the best way it could have possibly been done... They erase alot of errors with Howard over Wade. More positives than negatives added. Quite scary to imagine that tandem.

[GimmeThat]

Before any game starts, and before the opposing players take away his ability.

Sure

[DMAVS41]

If the 2011 Heat was Wade/Bosh/Howard they would undoubtedly have won a title in 11. So, extending the logic, Howard>Bron in 2011?

Yea.

Wade's decline has been overblown when talking about when it happened.

People act like he has been a scrub since 2011. Just not true.

He was absolutely an elite player in 2012...and like you said...the regular season in 13.

Wade's decline started in the 13 playoffs. That was his real first sign of not being elite anymore.

Still very good...and plays hard...and plays DEFENSE!

I know I'm a big Wade guy, but what everyone seems to ignore is that he actually has worked his ass of on defense. I haven't seen enough this year to say that, but during the Heatles run...he was a beast defensively and doesn't get near enough credit for that.

Wade's drapm last year was 2.1. For comparison sake...Kobe's in 13 was -1.2.

As for the OP...of course not. He's too inconsistent and doesn't play enough to be considered a top 10 player.

[ArbitraryWater]

Given Wade's insane 3-game stretch in the 2012 ECSF plus a solid finals series, I can see him putting up similar numbers as 2011 on his own team. His last prime / elite year. Top 10 player.

Simply allowed to coast at times with LeBron on his team.

[Papaya Petee]

He's producing like a top 10 player, but he's missed 8 games this season, so unless he finishes the year with around 65 games, then no.

About 10-15 Range.

23\6\4\1\1 on 52% FG 43% 3PT in 33 MPG is crazy production for someone who is "done"

Per 36 he's at 24\6\5 which is his career #s

[T_L_P]

Given Wade's insane 3-game stretch in the 2012 ECSF plus a solid finals series, I can see him putting up similar numbers as 2011 on his own team. His last prime / elite year. Top 10 player.

Simply allowed to coast at times with LeBron on his team.

Top 5 player, tbvh. Top 3 defending on how much weight you put on Playoff performance.

[GrapeApe]

Before any game starts, and before the opposing players take away his ability.

Sure

The opposing players aren't doing a very good job because when the games start he's putting up elite numbers. His durability is the only thing preventing him from being a top 10 player. When he's on the court he's easily one of the 10 most productive players in the league.

[Mass Debator]

I'm not one to believe that Wade is the 2nd best player on the floor on game day to 10 other players in the league. He's not top 10 only due to overall production.

[bizil]

Due to durability issues than I gotta say no. D Wade isn't at that G Hill or TMac stage where he isn't capable of dominating a game at an All Star level. But his body has to be monitored so much. In a weird way, its kind of like Bird's days with his bad back. In Bird's last year, he average 20.2 points, 6.8 dimes, and 9.6 rebounds. But he ONLY played 45 games in the regular season. The season before Bird played 60 games and averaged 19.4 points, 7.2 dimes, and 8.5 boards in 60 regular season games.

So when Bird could play, he was still a top 5 SF or PF. But his durability stopped him from being the best SF. I think Wade is at that point. He's only 32 so hopefully he can at least be a 20-5-5 guy for the next four years. I would rather see that than a T-Mac situation.

[tpols]

No lol.. He's been taking off games every other week, is one of the worst defenders in the league and he's had hardly even an all star impact offensively.

He's on my fantasy team so I've been tuning into heat games this year a little more than usual.. Wade looks slow and sluggish. He can't just slice a defense up anymore and has to rely on more craftiness and passing to get any production. His legs are also gone for defense.. He can't keep up.

[tpols]

Yea.

Wade's decline has been overblown when talking about when it happened.

People act like he has been a scrub since 2011. Just not true.

He was absolutely an elite player in 2012...and like you said...the regular season in 13.

Wade's decline started in the 13 playoffs. That was his real first sign of not being elite anymore.

Still very good...and plays hard...and plays DEFENSE!

I know I'm a big Wade guy, but what everyone seems to ignore is that he actually has worked his ass of on defense. I haven't seen enough this year to say that, but during the Heatles run...he was a beast defensively and doesn't get near enough credit for that.

Wade's drapm last year was 2.1. For comparison sake...Kobe's in 13 was -1.2.

As for the OP...of course not. He's too inconsistent and doesn't play enough to be considered a top 10 player.

Wade's drapm this year is -1.88.. Worse than 13 Kobe and good for 391st in the league.

[TheBigVeto]

False

[dubnation]

Nope, too inconsistent and injury prone. But when he's healthy and he's on he definitely can play like one.

[Dro]

I don't know but what I do know is that generally when I watch the Heat play, IF he's playing, he's generally the best player on the floor for either team.....Unless he's playing Cle, NO, or OKC basically......

[GrapeApe]

No lol.. He's been taking off games every other week, is one of the worst defenders in the league and he's had hardly even an all star impact offensively.

He's on my fantasy team so I've been tuning into heat games this year a little more than usual.. Wade looks slow and sluggish. He can't just slice a defense up anymore and has to rely on more craftiness and passing to get any production. His legs are also gone for defense.. He can't keep up.

Wow, everything you said except the part about craftiness is wrong. He's missed one stretch of games and played in every back to back. He's an average defender, far from one of the worst. Saying he's hardly had an all star impact offensively is laughable. His per minute production is close to prime level. How many guys in the league are putting up 23 points and 6 assists? including Wade, only 4, and he's doing it on 52% shooting in 33mpg. He doesn't have the same athleticism, of course, but he most certainly has not been "slow and sluggish". In fact, he's moving better and more fluidly than he has in nearly two years. You make it sound like he's a geriatric out there.

[JebronLames]

He won't be top 30 during the playoffs when it matters.

[freshperry]

lbj,durant,westbrook,anthony davis, curry, lillard, harden, marc gasol, john wall, cp3 are 10 players having better seasons. Theres so many more that can be argued better (D12, thompson, kyrie, love, lowry, etc etc) Im gunna have to say hes not a top 10 palyer anymore